Russian special military operation in Ukraine #23

Azi wrote:And how to deliver the FOABs? No strategic aviation is flying over Ukraine due to ukrainian AD systems, only tactical aviation. And Ukrainian Air Force is still alive, 6 months after the start of the special operation.

Arkanghelsk wrote:Are you guys seeing MOD Telegram?

A revolt is taking place in Russia





Russians are rejecting Z channels, MOD updates that are trying to brush it aside

Over 10k dislikes on all MOD posts

The Putin government is under fire and is in danger of complete loss of confidence- people in Russia are organizing protests

Arkanghelsk wrote:пшек, it's rich you calling pussy, along with fucking Canadians and Pindos

flamming_python wrote:This thread has been overrun

And by coincidence the conversation has veered towards getting rid of Putin, Washingtons/Londons ultimate goal

Withdraw and nuke from orbit

Karl Haushofer wrote:The first and most important thing is to get rid of Putin. In any way possible.

He is too legalistic, diplomatic (still keeps calling Russian enemies as partners) and cares too much about Russia's international (western) image.

Those are secondary things when you have a war to fight and to win.

But Putin is too old to learn new tricks. He is not a wartime leader. Russia will not win this war under Putin.

flamming_python wrote:This thread has been overrun

And by coincidence the conversation has veered towards getting rid of Putin, Washingtons/Londons ultimate goal

Withdraw and nuke from orbit

PhSt wrote:
What kind of reaction were you expecting? Russia shouldn't have lost territory to the Pukrainian Nazis in Kharkov.
Just look at the Telegram channel of the Russian Mod. Many Russians are also upset with the current development.

PhSt wrote:

Azi wrote:And how to deliver the FOABs? No strategic aviation is flying over Ukraine due to ukrainian AD systems, only tactical aviation. And Ukrainian Air Force is still alive, 6 months after the start of the special operation.

Well, the Russians should have figured out a different delivery system for FAOBs other than strategic bombers, just like how nukes are delivered using missile platforms.

franco wrote:Today really makes one wonder about the posters here?    How old are they?    What is their life experience?    What medications are they on?    The list goes on and on...sigh!!!

franco wrote:Today really makes one wonder about the posters here?    How old are they?    What is their life experience?    What medications are they on?    The list goes on and on...sigh!!!

Azi wrote:
43 years old scientist with military experience (NATO army). No medications! 1 teenager son. A lot of experience I would say.

I had good times, I had bad times...My strength is recognizing when I've failed and learning from my mistakes. Something some here don't have, for them the world is always sunshine, no matter how much shit gets on their heads.

ALAMO wrote:

Azi wrote:
43 years old scientist with military experience (NATO army). No medications! 1 teenager son. A lot of experience I would say.

I had good times, I had bad times...My strength is recognizing when I've failed and learning from my mistakes. Something some here don't have, for them the world is always sunshine, no matter how much shit gets on their heads.

The most important is to keep a sane distance.
And remember that at the very end, we will all die

sepheronx wrote:

Azi wrote:

franco wrote:Today really makes one wonder about the posters here?    How old are they?    What is their life experience?    What medications are they on?    The list goes on and on...sigh!!!

43 years old scientist with military experience (NATO army). No medications! 1 teenager son. A lot of experience I would say.

I had good times, I had bad times...My strength is recognizing when I've failed and learning from my mistakes. Something some here don't have, for them the world is always sunshine, no matter how much shit gets on their heads.

I doubt this very much based upon your inability to recognize events.  Then again, this is the internet.

But I'm willing to back any of you up if your willing to go and fight with donations at least.  I'm expecting Arch and Billybats to go first.

flamming_python wrote:

Isos wrote:
It's not even used. It was designed to hit behind the lines but can't survive soviet AD systems that russians should know how to jam (its huge rcs don't help even with good jamming anyway). Su-30 got downed easily too which stopped all RuAF behind enemy lines.

What makes you think it's not being used?

It was used plenty of times early in the war in deep strikes, where it suffered 2-3 downed units

We haven't heard much about it until the failed Ukrainian Kherson counter-offensive when it was used to decimate them, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been used

In an airspace protected by rafale and typhoon with meteor and f-35s with aim120D it has no value.

Then no tactical bomber does.

In fact it's a very versatile aircraft that can be equipped as a bomb truck as in Syria, to attack ground targets and infrastructure with A2G missiles as in this war, as an EW aircraft like in Georgia, as a recon platform, and can even join air patrol and air superiority missions as it is ultimately a Su-27 and can be equipped with A2A missiles.

Russian AD is also getting destroyed and isn't bulletproof as they advize it for years, even if it is quite capable.

What Russian AD is getting destroyed? AFAIK the Ukrainians have taken out a few Russian S-300 vehicles a few months back. Although there is speculation those were decoys

Himars driving during day on the front undetected. Lack of reccon hardware critical.

Do you know how big the territory we're talking about is?

That's what happen when you believe in your own propaganda.

That's what happens when you believe in the enemy's and fall for their tricks

For all you know those HIMARS could have been driven around in Lvov region. Although with the expanse of the land there would be plenty opportunity for them to hide them and move them around even in the Donbass if they were smart about it. Even during daytime, it's impossible to have a real-time map of all enemy formations and vehicles. That happens only in video games.

Sukhoi will loose many clients. They will have to start selling su-57 and su-75 very fast to keep them. Flankers are outdated.

Indonesia is already talking about confirming its order for Su-35s. I think these things will sell great.

ATLASCUB wrote:

flamming_python wrote:This thread has been overrun

And by coincidence the conversation has veered towards getting rid of Putin, Washingtons/Londons ultimate goal

Withdraw and nuke from orbit

Weren't you the one who was calling Putin a murderer, a monster, criminal etc etc... at the start of this operation? Weren't you the one who staunchly argued against the war on literally all grounds despite what was happening inside Ukraine for over 8 years? The one who flip flopped quickly on all of that when the threat of being cast out by the forum dimwitts and hive mind reached critical mass?

Yep that one.

The trolling here by certain accounts is off the charts, and yours is one of the most insidious ones. Dimwitts obviously can't notice shit.

flamming_python wrote:

ATLASCUB wrote:

flamming_python wrote:This thread has been overrun

And by coincidence the conversation has veered towards getting rid of Putin, Washingtons/Londons ultimate goal

Withdraw and nuke from orbit

Weren't you the one who was calling Putin a murderer, a monster, criminal etc etc... at the start of this operation? Weren't you the one who staunchly argued against the war on literally all grounds despite what was happening inside Ukraine for over 8 years? The one who flip flopped quickly on all of that when the threat of being cast out by the forum dimwitts and hive mind reached critical mass?

Yep that one.

The trolling here by certain accounts is off the charts, and yours is one of the most insidious ones. Dimwitts obviously can't notice shit.

Jury is out on Putin

But I didn't call for his removal because that's not what you do during wartime.
On the other end the Ukropathogen here is actively transforming people into advocating NATO war-aims.

All NATO has is flash, propaganda, media, spin, psyops, colour revolutions and all this immateriality. They're Chaos from Warhammer basically.
But if you don't fall for it they're powerless