Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30

Backman wrote:Russia spent a lot of effort on strategic weapons. That are supposed to theoretically deter the US from doing insane shit. But it doesn't seem to work.

The US is more afraid of the localized consequences of war with Iran and war with N.Korea than they are about war with Russia. Oh no Soel is in artillery range. Oh no the strait of Hormuz will be shut. We never hear these kinds of concerns from them when the subject of war with Russia comes up. They are almost itching to get the war going.

War with Russia ? Nuclear bombs and hypersonic missiles ? No problem ! Shutter 80% of the gas going to our biggest ally ? No problem !

I think it is just the irrationality and extremism that is in the Anglo axis psyche about Russia. They just don't have these feelings towards North Koreans or Iranians.

Because they think that Russia is weak internally. That it's society will ultimately collapse and won't be able to mobilize like Iran or North Korea can.

Or maybe they've just invested so much into propaganda against Russia, that they've persuaded themselves of their own cliches and tropes

Anyway it doesn't matter. The military leadership on every side is smarter and will cool heads.
And those strategic weapons are a big part of that.

JohninMK wrote:[
No they haven't. They have been there since June when they replaced the 82nd Airborne. This is a fuss about nothing.
This was a PR exercise to puff up the Dems and Biden ahead of the mid term elections in the US next month.

Precisely.
And how much of Russia are our armchair strategists going to conquer with 5000 light mobile infantry? Yeah, I know - all of it.
At the moment Russkie army groups in Kaliningrad and Belarus outnumber the NATO buildup in the area by some 3x factor.

I still remember one of their propaganda around late '90s which is a news scoop about Russian soldiers whose so desperate and have to do a second job as a stripper.) So they portray minor threats as Iran or DPRK as a much bigger threat to American than they really are. wrote:

Russia in the 90s was weak. Admittedly, it had a nuclear arsenal after the USSR, but the country itself was very weak, including its armed forces. Over 20 years have passed and today Russia is a superpower again. In strategic nuclear and tactical weapons they have an advantage over the US for this they are a very strong economy.

Nice account



Looks like even the Ukraine's intel chief is slapping some sense into the doomers

It is an warzone, shit happens....
Pilot made it out uninjured and that is what counts.

RF SU-25 pilot safely ejects after hit by AA fire


CAS Support by RF SU-25 over Lisichansk


RF Airborne troops shell Ukrainian convoy

Drones coming out of their nest

In summary, Gonzalo thinks NATO is preparing to go for Belarus and/or western Ukraine.

Putin said no nukes in the Ukraine because Kiev has nothing that would justify the use of nukes... perfectly logical... nothing the Orcs could really do that would require or be solved by Russia using nuclear weapons...

Introducing HATO forces into the conflict in Ukraine or into Belarus would justify the use of nukes to stop and reverse any invasion.

So what? That would mean that all NATO countries can be attacked by Russia and Belarus.

In fact that would be fantastic because Russia could then declare a no fly zone over Poland and any other HATO country they please and then shoot down any transports bringing weapons to the Ukraine that way...

What is the Russian equivalent of American 101st Airborne units?

Airborne, so VDV but with a lot less armoured vehicles.

Also the West Ukraine is on the same Polish border and Russia cannot do anything there, besides these are Catholic and Russophilic areas that never belonged to Russia until after WWII

They could bomb it back to the stone age... Poland or HATO sending troops into Ukrainian territory brings HATO into the war and I doubt any HATO country except Poland is interested in that... and after the no fly zone over Poland is set up with SAMs I don't think they will like it much either.

In addition, Poland always wants to seize Belarus and have its "Greater Poland" or at least take the western part of Belarus (Grodno and Brest oblast), so this also further distances Kaliningrad from Russia, which is the real objective of the USA, that is to say expel russia from the Baltic Sea

The casualties for Poland just trying to take Kaliningrad will be horrendous and I don't think they would accept them the way they accept dead Orcs.

Belarus would likely end up taking Polish territory instead.

On the one hand, I would not write them like a bad check like I do anything in the Ukronazi army. They are well trained, well equipped, well led, professional killers so DO NOT TAKE THEM LIGHTLY. Now before you smash the dislike button and add me to your foes list there is another hand and here it is. . . .

What sort of fragment dodging skills do they have and have they perfected the elaborate dance of fighting without artillery support or air control while the enemy has such support?

But I hope we repent and God and our neighbors across the globe can forgive us.

You have to stop working for the devil first... taking orders from the 1% whose interests extend as far as making themselves more wealthy and NOTHING ELSE, is your problem... or should I say the worlds problem.

I have no doubt they could seize an objective, but their support would never arrive and they'd die to a man

Horribly vulnerably to artillery and air power.

With all due respect to the written words, because no sane person wants a nuclear war - I still disagree.

I have to agree... when the enemy has been escalating for 22 years and knows no other tactic... when sanctions fail that means your sanctions were weak so your next sanctions must be harder... not the obvious... hey sanctions are not working and all this BS is ruining our own economy too.

If the west thinks it can send troops into the Ukraine to seize parts then it might find that now it has joined the conflict that hypersonic missiles approaching Brussels and Washington with conventional warheads or perhaps even small nukes might be the "Back the **** off" message they have been ignoring all these years.

A bee uses its sting as a last resort because it dies when it uses it... but if no bees ever stung who would fear or respect bees.

(they could care less if it is fear or respect or both... if you keep out of their way they are harmless.)

They are well trained and equipped but no different to a VDV division; just smaller. They probably have less heavy weapons as well. But I'm not well-informed.

Not mechanised.

More helicopter mobile, which would make them horribly vulnerable to MANPADS and ATGMs.

I don't believe in covering up everything but if you can get away with it , why not. Like when the radar equipment got stolen out of the nuclear warning plane. It was a top secret plane. There was no reason to report it. It only just gets used against you in the media

Well actually it will get security boosted and it will likely get upgraded equipment funded because that stuff is now compromised...

Russia spent a lot of effort on strategic weapons. That are supposed to theoretically deter the US from doing insane shit. But it doesn't seem to work.

They haven't done anything yet, and when they do I rather suspect Zelensky will become expendable due to this new escalation... and such a thing would likely extend to oligarchs still in the country (likely zero) and any supporters or American owned politicians should all be on a hit list... or should I say a shit list... to eliminate at any opportunity.

And cut off gas supplies to Europe.

The reality behind Twitter

This is the "reporter" from RT who had this outburst about killing "ukrainian" kids and so on. In 2014. In Küyjiew. A dirty bomb waiting to explode.

UPDATE:

No calm Monday for Nazis

Russian artillery, according to unnamed western experts 

Hole wrote:
The reality behind Twitter

you must be mistaken, Sze West Propaganda Machine Free unbiased media sais Ukraine is winning!.





I wanted to add the video of Propaganda pig, but Youtube flags it immediately as "undesired content"

Big_Gazza wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Looks like even the Ukraine's intel chief is slapping some sense into the doomers

Hopefully the Ukrops will ignore the odd plaintive call for rationality coming from within their misbegotten ranks and will instead plunge forwards on a mass offensive.

It would be a terrible shame if the Russian lads came along all dresse dup for a good face-stomping only for the bandera faggots to be a cowardly no-show

The Russian leadership knows well that those PR wins are invaluable for Zelensky.
They're counting on greed winning out yet again, against the better judgement of the military brass.