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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:50 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:
    Is it a yellow submarine?

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    Post  franco Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:56 pm

    Losses of DPR military.
    Over the past week, 71 irretrievable losses and 495 wounded. Total for the week – 566. The ratio of killed/wounded also dropped sharply to the level of 1 to 10.

    Total since beginning of the hostilities – 3459 dead and 14652 wounded.

    https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1584474963490197504
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    Post  Arrow Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:01 pm

    The T-90M goes to Ukraine.


    https://t.me/anna_news/41801

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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:06 pm

    This looks fake to me Suspect but would be happy to be proven wrong. Still nice to watch however Laughing

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    Post  franco Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:09 pm

    Have any of the German members seen this?

    If this German report of 200k+ Ukrainian KIAs is accurate, it is absolutely horrific. The cynical indifference of NATO and Ukrainian leadership is war crime level.

    https://twitter.com/imetatronink/status/1584301402133737472

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/16319

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:14 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:This looks fake to me  Suspect  but would be happy to be proven wrong. Still nice to watch however  Laughing


    Looks like terrible CGI.

    edit: However, I am curious about the alleged Kinzhal strike on the remote Soviet-era subterranean weapons depot in the Carpathians, west of Delyatyn. It occured early on.

    There was a short, grainy video clip of something bright and extremely fast darting across the evening sky right then, supposedly filmed nearby, as some Ukro-Russian swearwords are uttered by the cameraman, but I don't know if it was confirmed to be connected in any way.

    Given that the location of the depot is known and quite some time has passed, satellite imagery post-strike should be available but I haven't seen anyone with access to Maxar etc look into it.


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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:21 pm

    franco wrote:Have any of the German members seen this?

    If this German report of 200k+ Ukrainian KIAs is accurate, it is absolutely horrific. The cynical indifference of NATO and Ukrainian leadership is war crime level.

    https://twitter.com/imetatronink/status/1584301402133737472

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/16319

    It's a hypothetical worst case *conclusion* scenario apparently uttered by an ex U.S. commander in the beginning of June.

    It's not a "German report", it's a bad leftist news site referring to an old article on the Russian site Svpressa, which in turn references this old remark by Stephen Twitty.

    I'm pretty sure Shoigu's numbers were reasonably accurate, so given subsequent developments it should be in the vicinity of 70k now. Roughly 30k can be independently corroborated to some extent.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:38 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:
    It's a hypothetical worst case *conclusion* scenario apparently uttered by an ex U.S. commander in the beginning of June.
    It's not a "German report", it's a bad leftist news site referring to an old article on the Russian site Svpressa, which in turn references this old remark by Stephen Twitty.
    I'm pretty sure Shoigu's numbers were reasonably accurate, so given subsequent developments it should be in the vicinity of 70k now. Roughly 30k can be independently corroborated to some extent.

    If we will take for granted the information provided by the Ukrs themselves, the counter was at 90k back in June.
    We had two great offensives after that, that kicked the number by 30k. And a few months of other serious clashes. No matter how unbelievable it might sound, they can really hit the 200k.
    Hell, they have lost close to 1000 men by now only trying to get to the Zaporoska NPP multiple times, and being decimated while trying ...
    The quality of POWs taken is obviously descending, just  take a ook at the soldiers books they are showing as trophies. Half of them are of Soviet origin, and that would mean that those guys are at their 50s in the best case scenario.
    Some of the soldier's books were provided at the beginning of the 80s!! what means a 60 y/o people there.


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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:39 pm

    Twitter is showing the Washing Machines, Lawn mowers, and swedish traffic cams are airborne, any idea what's getting washed (bonus points for brand of detergent used), photographed, and mowed?

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    Post  auslander Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:51 pm

    That was one helluva ammo dump. Now this image will be 'proof' that Mother has used a nuke. Flash is different even though the event of two chemicals renewing an old animosity was right interesting. Gawd knows how many are now vaporized but one can bet that the tunnels were full of locals working away.

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    Post  Arrow Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:54 pm

    auslander wrote:That was one helluva ammo dump. Now this image will be 'proof' that Mother has used a nuke. Flash is different even though the event of two chemicals renewing an old animosity was right interesting. Gawd knows how many are now vaporized but one can bet that the tunnels were full of locals working away.

    This old video was available from six months ago.

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    Post  auslander Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:57 pm

    Arrow wrote:
    auslander wrote:That was one helluva ammo dump. Now this image will be 'proof' that Mother has used a nuke. Flash is different even though the event of two chemicals renewing an old animosity was right interesting. Gawd knows how many are now vaporized but one can bet that the tunnels were full of locals working away.

    This old video was available from six months ago.

    Since I don't, and never will have, 'twitter' I never saw it. Obviously from the foliage it was before spring or in the last two days. Don't matter, it was quite a firecracker.

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    Post  franco Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:58 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:This looks fake to me  Suspect  but would be happy to be proven wrong. Still nice to watch however  Laughing


    Wasn't that over in L'viv at the start of the SMO? Looks like it so maybe just a repeat.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:00 pm

    VARGR198 wrote:

    I suppose it is much more connected with the fact that Mr. Bayraktar felt offended by the latest news of how his products performed in the war for real Laughing Laughing

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    Holly cow, they are fully booked Shocked
    THat is why we hear about these smaller repair plants.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:08 pm

    franco wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:This looks fake to me  Suspect  but would be happy to be proven wrong. Still nice to watch however  Laughing

    Wasn't that over in L'viv at the start of the SMO? Looks like it so maybe just a repeat.
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    Yes it was 7/8 months ago. I thought that they only used one Khinzal at that time and it was in the mountains, not flat land like that.

    Also, what was the likelihood of an American with a decent camera filming in exactly the right place at the right time when the missile is coming in faster than the speed of sound?

    Impressive explosion tho' wonder where it was?


    Garry isn't going to be happy with so many copies of the photo, get deleting Laughing

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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:10 pm

    Same background image used in these clips:




    Some guy takes a still image of a nondescript field, makes some rather crappy animations in Adobe After Effects or similar (perhaps even simpler than that, such as a cellphone VFX app, since it's for hunting TikTok clicks I guess), adds sound from some other video and tops it off with some artificial camera shake and zoom.

    Most UFO videos out there these days follow a similar recipe. Why overcomplicate things when 20 minutes of work using stock effects and some minor tweaking pretty much guarantees hundreds of thousands, if not millions of views.


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    Post  Dr.Snufflebug Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:20 pm

    ALAMO wrote:
    VARGR198 wrote:

    I suppose it is much more connected with the fact that Mr. Bayraktar felt offended by the latest news of how his products performed in the war for real Laughing Laughing


    Just the other day Russia supposedly shared intel with Turkey on Ukrainian attempts to sabotage the Black Sea pipelines.

    That could also have something to do with it.

    Funny thing is that if Russia ordered TB-2s instead, they'd make much better use of them, given the AA situation. What a hilarious twist that'd be.

    Hell, it'd even make sense for Russia, while waiting for Kronshtadt et al to increase production volumes. But I guess Iran fills that particular niche now.


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    Post  Mir Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:21 pm

    Arrow wrote:
    auslander wrote:That was one helluva ammo dump. Now this image will be 'proof' that Mother has used a nuke. Flash is different even though the event of two chemicals renewing an old animosity was right interesting. Gawd knows how many are now vaporized but one can bet that the tunnels were full of locals working away.

    This old video was available from six months ago.

    ...and it's a fake as well Rolling Eyes

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    Post  Arrow Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:33 pm

    Video from the picture, pasted by ALAMO.

    https://vk.com/video-206639135_456260747

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:38 pm

    Dr.Snufflebug wrote:

    Funny thing is that if Russia ordered TB-2s instead, they'd make much better use of them, given the AA situation. What a hilarious twist that'd be.

    Hell, it'd even make sense for Russia, while waiting for Kronshtadt et al to increase production volumes. But I guess Iran fills that particular niche now.
     Turkey mainly acts as integrator for the drones, as most of the core components are made in the west... So sales to Russia would not be possible.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:43 pm

    It might not be so bad, as Turkey was sanctioned either, and made their own run for "domestication".
    Still I hardly find anything that would favor buying Bayraktars.

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:30 pm

    October 24, 15:01,
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    Military operation in Ukraine

    Medvedev at "Uralvagonzavod" discussed the acceleration of the supply of military equipment for the needs of the SMO

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    MOSCOW, 24 October. /TASS/. Deputy head of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev, on the instructions of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, visited Nizhny Tagil and conducted a control check of the production of tanks at the Uralvagonzavod corporation, which is the largest manufacturer in this field of armored vehicles. Medvedev announced this on Monday in his Telegram channel.

    According to him, during the inspection, issues of accelerating the supply of equipment to the troops for use in the course of a special military operation and eliminating existing problems were discussed.

    "The task has been set of strict execution of the state defense order in all its key parameters, preventing disruptions in the supply of manufactured equipment," he said.

    Attention was drawn to the responsibility of all co-executors of the state order, up to the criminal one, and instructions were adopted to the ministries and departments responsible for the state order. Follow-up will continue."

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    DPR repels Ukrainian attack

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    Post  Podlodka77 Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:11 pm

    Militarywatch magazine

    The Three Most Dangerous Russian Assets Forward Deployed to Belarus: All Can Carry Hypersonic Missiles


    In January 2022 the Russian Military began to make unprecedented deployments of high performance weapons systems to military bases on the territory of its neighbour Belarus. These deployments came amid closer integration of the two countries’ armed forces, with Minsk seeking closer ties with Moscow under the ‘Union State of Russia and Belarus’ particularly from late 2020 after Western powers were widely accused of supporting riots in the country and imposed harsh economic sanctions. At the time deployments were made tensions between Russia and NATO were also fast rising, with the Western Bloc quickly increasing arms deliveries to Ukraine as a potential escalation of Russian-Ukrainian hostilities was anticipated. The outbreak of a full scale war between Russia and Ukraine in February subsequently accelerated the rate of military integration between Russia and Belarus, while leading Russia to supply more advanced weapons to its neighbour ranging from new upgrade packages for its Soviet era tanks to technology transfers for ballistic missiles, and even modifications for its aircraft to allow them to deploy nuclear weapons under a nuclear sharing agreement.

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    The importance of Belarus for the deployment of Russian assets has been twofold. The territory provides a northern flank on which to counter Ukraine, which has so far been used only lightly as Russian S-400 air defences and Su-35 fighters on the territory have been employed for operations against targets within Ukraine. This notably included the world’s longest ranged aircraft shootdown at the time - the downing of a Su-27 fighter over Kiev by an S-400 battery 150km away in Belarus. Secondly, facilities in Belarus provide Russia with a more defensible position against NATO should the Western alliance seek to launch military action against it - a possibility which has been raised multiple times since the outbreak of Russian-Ukrainian hostilities in February. Weapons systems deployed to Belarus are largely complementary to the strengths of the Belarusian Military, and compensate for the deficiencies that are in most cases a result of its limited defence budget. A look at the three most notable systems deployed, all of them with significant strategic implications and all benefitting strongly from Russian strengths in missile technologies, is given below.

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    Su-35S Air Superiority Fighters

    The Su-35’s deployment to Belarus in the final week of January followed deliveries the aircraft’s cheaper and less specialised counterpart, the Su-30SM, to the Belarusian Air Force. Su-35 units were redeployed to the country from bases in the Russian Far East, and first arrived at the Baranovichi Airfield of the 61st Fighter Aviation Base on January 26. The facility notably previously hosted Belarusian Air Force Su-27 fighters, a predecessor to the Su-35 inherited from the Soviet Air Force, before these had to be retired due to their high operational costs. Aside from a half squadron of Su-57 next generation fighters, which have also played a not insignificant role in operations in Ukraine albeit from bases in Russia itself, the Su-35 is the most capable fighter in the Russian inventory in terms of air to air performance. The aircraft can engage targets deep into neighbouring countries without leaving Belarusian airspace due to the potency of their sensors and extreme range of their R-37M missiles - which have a low hypersonic Mach 6 speed and 400km reach.

    The Su-35 entered service in 2014, and was designed specifically to be able to tackle fifth generation stealth fighters such as U.S. Air Force F-22s while deploying sensors, including the Irbis-E radar, two L-band AESA radars and the OLS-35 infra red search and track system to better track and engage them. Although a single Su-35 was confirmed shot down over Ukraine, units of the aircraft have gained perhaps more experience against fourth generation fighters than any other fighter class in the world, and are credited with a very large number of kills against Ukrainian Air Force Su-27s, MiG-29s and other assets. Redeployment of these assets from the Far East was assessed to have been partly facilitated by the growing capabilities of friendly Chinese and North Korean forces in the region, which has ensured that the balance of power in the area will not be too favourable to Russian adversaries even with some of the country’s top end fighters removed.

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    S-400 Air Defence Systems

    Redeployed in late January alongside Su-35s, S-400 systems in Belarus have played a vital role in compensating for the relative weakness of the country’s own air force while complementing S-400 acquisitions made by the Belarusian Military itself. The systems were also moved from the Russian Far East, and were expected to provide an opportunity to further familiarise Belarusian units with operations alongside them. The system’s 400km engagement range and 600km detection range against large aircraft makes deployments closer to the frontier with NATO potentially valuable, allowing Russian forces to strike targets deeper into the alliance’s territory as well as aircraft in Western Ukraine. The S-400 has increasingly come to be considered the backbone of Russia’s air defences, as its low operational costs allow it to be fielded in very large numbers to compensate for the relatively small size of the Russian fighter fleet as an arguably more cost effective assets for many defensive roles. Although the system has been superseded in many areas of performance by the newer S-500 and S-300V4 systems, the S-400 is fielded in much greater numbers, can engage many more targets simultaneously, and is better optimised to tackling fighter sized targets with stealth capabilities. The system’s longest ranged missiles can engage targets at Mach 14 speeds, and are capable of intercepting slower hypersonic missiles.

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    MiG-31K Strike Fighters

    The latest of the three assets to be deployed to Belarus, the MiG-31K strike fighter first arrived in the country some time in mid-October. The fighter class first joined the Russian Air Force in late 2017 and represents a unique kind of aircraft with no counterparts elsewhere in the world. Where the S-400 represents a primarily defensive asset, and the Su-35 is capable of both offensive and defensive roles, the MiG-31K is a highly offensive asset with each carrying a single Kh-47M2 hypersonic ballistic missile. Although the MiG-31 was initially developed as a long range interceptor, and remains the heaviest and fastest tactical combat aircraft in service worldwide, the MiG-31K variant capitalises on the large aircraft and excellent flight performance to provide a delivery vehicle for hypersonic missiles. Its Kh-47M2 missiles are prized for their Mach 10 speeds and extreme manoeuvrability, which make them nearly impossible to intercept and leaves targets across Europe highly vulnerable. The missile's capabilities were first demonstrated in Ukraine where they were used for limited strikes. MiG-31Ks have consistently been deployed to areas of high tension, including in 2022 to Kaliningrad and to Khmeimim Airbase in Syria both facing off against NATO forces, and previously to the Russian Arctic alongside interceptor variants of the MiG-31. Rising tensions with the Western Bloc are expected to lead Russia to expand the fleet size faster and to a greater extent, while also potentially increasing the production of the Kh-47M2 due to its potency and widely perceived cost effectiveness. An enhanced successor to the MiG-31K, the MiG-31I, was also confirmed to have entered service in August.

    https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/the-three-most-dangerous-russian-assets-forward-deployed-to-belarus-all-can-carry-hypersonic-missiles

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