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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30
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We need more of this, or maybe there is more but unreported. About time the 'locals' turned on the 'nationalists' as well.
Battle erupts between Polish mercenaries, Ukrainian nationalists near Liman — LPR official
It is reported that a group of Ukrainian nationalists, who were sent to sort the situation out, "failed to build a conversation" and its members were killed
LUGANSK, October 26. /TASS/. Polish mercenaries stationed in the Liman area refused to go into battle after a number of failed attacks and later killed a group of Ukrainian nationalists that had been sent to re-establish order, the Lugansk People’s Republic’s (LPR) interior minister's advisor Vitaly Kiselyov said on Wednesday.
"There was an incident near Liman, where Polish mercenaries refused to tempt fate by trying to advance after several failed attacks," he wrote on Telegram.
According to Kiselyov, a group of Ukrainian nationalists, who were sent to sort the situation out, "failed to build a conversation" and its members were killed. "A massacre between foreigners and Nazis is looming," the official added.
LPR People’s Militia officer Andrey Marochko earlier told TASS that allied forces were steadily advancing, driving the enemy to the northwestern part of the Donetsk People’s Republic’s (DPR) city of Artyomovsk. On October 4, acting DPR head Denis Pushilin said that Ukrainian troops had retreated from several areas near Artyomovsk, while Russian forces had strengthened their positions. He specified that the Ukrainian Armed Forces had withdrawn reserves from the Artyomovsk area to attack Krasny Liman.
https://tass.com/politics/1527599
Battle erupts between Polish mercenaries, Ukrainian nationalists near Liman — LPR official
It is reported that a group of Ukrainian nationalists, who were sent to sort the situation out, "failed to build a conversation" and its members were killed
LUGANSK, October 26. /TASS/. Polish mercenaries stationed in the Liman area refused to go into battle after a number of failed attacks and later killed a group of Ukrainian nationalists that had been sent to re-establish order, the Lugansk People’s Republic’s (LPR) interior minister's advisor Vitaly Kiselyov said on Wednesday.
"There was an incident near Liman, where Polish mercenaries refused to tempt fate by trying to advance after several failed attacks," he wrote on Telegram.
According to Kiselyov, a group of Ukrainian nationalists, who were sent to sort the situation out, "failed to build a conversation" and its members were killed. "A massacre between foreigners and Nazis is looming," the official added.
LPR People’s Militia officer Andrey Marochko earlier told TASS that allied forces were steadily advancing, driving the enemy to the northwestern part of the Donetsk People’s Republic’s (DPR) city of Artyomovsk. On October 4, acting DPR head Denis Pushilin said that Ukrainian troops had retreated from several areas near Artyomovsk, while Russian forces had strengthened their positions. He specified that the Ukrainian Armed Forces had withdrawn reserves from the Artyomovsk area to attack Krasny Liman.
https://tass.com/politics/1527599
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Backman wrote:nomadski wrote:Since there seems to be no force to close the Polish and other borders , and Russian troops can at best liberate LDPR and a few regions in the East , then why are we surprised that NATO will move
Therefore whatever Russia does , from very little to a lot , it faces NATO , with or without Ukraine . At the Polish border , it will also face NATO with say Polish forces etc . For as long as NATO benefits by war , it will now carry on with war . And as long as Russia is unwilling or unable to engage directly against NATO , the war will go on . The only way this will stop , is to field Atomic weapons . Here NATO will not benefit and will loose also . So if they go Nuclear , then we will see a level playing field . The war will then find a solution .
Russia spent a lot of effort on strategic weapons. That are supposed to theoretically deter the US from doing insane shit. But it doesn't seem to work.
The US is more afraid of the localized consequences of war with Iran and war with N.Korea than they are about war with Russia. Oh no Soel is in artillery range. Oh no the strait of Hormuz will be shut. We never hear these kinds of concerns from them when the subject of war with Russia comes up. They are almost itching to get the war going.
War with Russia ? Nuclear bombs and hypersonic missiles ? No problem ! Shutter 80% of the gas going to our biggest ally ? No problem !
I think it is just the irrationality and extremism that is in the Anglo axis psyche about Russia. They just don't have these feelings towards North Koreans or Iranians.
Because Russia keeps punching the knife (the Pukraine) rather than the attacker - Uncle Sham and GATO.
Russia has plenty of options - arming separatist/destabilising groups in N America. It could cyber attack. It could arm America's enemies, arm pirates to harm US sea lanes. It could expose economic, political, covid or other sleaze. It could destroy US/GATO intellectual property It could see US bases and ships overseas are destroyed by US enemies. With or without "plausible deniability" eg "wasn't us it was those Islamists you armed up".
I really cannot understand for the life of me why Russia hasn't done this. Putin just seems to be too "nice" ie deluding himself that he is going the right way.
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Western media: Iran sending chemical weapons to Russia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!JohninMK wrote:
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My namesake has been rescued from Ukraine and relocated to a game farm 
Another one named Simba was also rescued but you can see he has had a rough time
Another one named Simba was also rescued but you can see he has had a rough time
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Earlier today, Vladimir Solovyov said on Россия-1 what we have been discussing in this forum for the last 6 months - west is using Ukraine with the sole intention of destroying Russia.
The only statement of his that I don't agree with is that he says the west wants to destroy Christianity. West wants to destroy Orthodox Christianity but not the other denominations.
The only statement of his that I don't agree with is that he says the west wants to destroy Christianity. West wants to destroy Orthodox Christianity but not the other denominations.
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Putin wants negotiations.
Putin wants negotiations.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30
Odin of Ossetia Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:44 am
JohninMK wrote:We need more of this, or maybe there is more but unreported. About time the 'locals' turned on the 'nationalists' as well.
Battle erupts between Polish mercenaries, Ukrainian nationalists near Liman — LPR official
It is reported that a group of Ukrainian nationalists, who were sent to sort the situation out, "failed to build a conversation" and its members were killed
LUGANSK, October 26. /TASS/. Polish mercenaries stationed in the Liman area refused to go into battle after a number of failed attacks and later killed a group of Ukrainian nationalists that had been sent to re-establish order, the Lugansk People’s Republic’s (LPR) interior minister's advisor Vitaly Kiselyov said on Wednesday.
"There was an incident near Liman, where Polish mercenaries refused to tempt fate by trying to advance after several failed attacks," he wrote on Telegram.
According to Kiselyov, a group of Ukrainian nationalists, who were sent to sort the situation out, "failed to build a conversation" and its members were killed. "A massacre between foreigners and Nazis is looming," the official added.
LPR People’s Militia officer Andrey Marochko earlier told TASS that allied forces were steadily advancing, driving the enemy to the northwestern part of the Donetsk People’s Republic’s (DPR) city of Artyomovsk. On October 4, acting DPR head Denis Pushilin said that Ukrainian troops had retreated from several areas near Artyomovsk, while Russian forces had strengthened their positions. He specified that the Ukrainian Armed Forces had withdrawn reserves from the Artyomovsk area to attack Krasny Liman.
https://tass.com/politics/1527599
If that were true why have the alleged "Poles" not defected to the Russian side?
Just think about it, if that really happened they would have had no other choice.
Do you expect me to believe that they sit there and await some sort of fair trial?
They would have went over to the Russian side of the front-line by now.
Probably a clever fabrication in order to make these ethnic Ukrainians from Poland look "more genuinely Polish."
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JohninMK wrote:Areas awaiting freedom.
But I thought that the Russian army wont liberate anything for the foreseeable future. After all their goal is to denazify, not liberate.
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limb wrote:
But I thought that the Russian army wont liberate anything for the foreseeable future. After all their goal is to denazify, not liberate.
Don't try to think, you are not good at it.
Just observe what actually happens, and leave it at that.
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Odin of Ossetia wrote:
If that were true why have the alleged "Poles" not defected to the Russian side?
Just think about it, if that really happened they would have had no other choice.
Do you expect me to believe that they sit there and await some sort of fair trial?
They would have went over to the Russian side of the front-line by now.
Probably a clever fabrication in order to make these ethnic Ukrainians from Poland look "more genuinely Polish."
You do realize as mercenaries they are subject to the death penalty right?
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30
flamming_python Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:22 am
bandit6 wrote:Putin and his goofy goobers generals don't realize that anything than the total destruction of Ukraine will be a humiliating defeat.
Even if they call a ceasefire and keep the current territory the economic warfare will continue, bridges and pipelines will be blowing up, and Ukraine will be armed to the point that it will become the second most powerful military in the world. Russia will be somewhere below KSA.
A cold war will be waged to weaken it so that Russian migrants will be sneaking across the border into NKorea to find a better quality of life.
Another doomer?
No in fact peace now on Russia's terms, with the Ukrainian recognition of the new Russian territories will be a considerable defeat for Washington; hence you know, why they're not pursuing negotiations and even those Democrat lawmakers have now disavowed their own earlier proposal.
For Washington it would first and foremost mean that its hegemony and rules-based order (whereby it and its allies can break said rules but everyone else has to follow them) have been successfully challenged and overturned.
For Russia, recognition of its new borders would remove any direct security threats to Russia.
Another precondition of Russia will be Ukrainian disarmament and neutrality. The Ukrainian regime being pumped full of weapons, bases and training post-war doesn't fit into that.
And all this on the backdrop of an acceleration of multi-polarity processes, the BRICS, SCO and so on, the Turks, Gulf Arabs, Indians distancing themselves from the West, the continuation of the economic troubles in Europe - and America burdened with such problems so as to take the pressure off of China entirely.
About the cold war being waged to weaken the Russian economy - well at the moment the Russian economy is coming off better than Europe. What would fundamentally change to collapse Russia's standards of living?
Which is not say there won't be negative consequences for Russia from this war. There will be plenty and for many years. But the negative consequences for the EU and US are coming in sharper and more immediately.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30
flamming_python Thu Oct 27, 2022 10:30 am
Firebird wrote:Backman wrote:nomadski wrote:Since there seems to be no force to close the Polish and other borders , and Russian troops can at best liberate LDPR and a few regions in the East , then why are we surprised that NATO will move
Therefore whatever Russia does , from very little to a lot , it faces NATO , with or without Ukraine . At the Polish border , it will also face NATO with say Polish forces etc . For as long as NATO benefits by war , it will now carry on with war . And as long as Russia is unwilling or unable to engage directly against NATO , the war will go on . The only way this will stop , is to field Atomic weapons . Here NATO will not benefit and will loose also . So if they go Nuclear , then we will see a level playing field . The war will then find a solution .
Russia spent a lot of effort on strategic weapons. That are supposed to theoretically deter the US from doing insane shit. But it doesn't seem to work.
The US is more afraid of the localized consequences of war with Iran and war with N.Korea than they are about war with Russia. Oh no Soel is in artillery range. Oh no the strait of Hormuz will be shut. We never hear these kinds of concerns from them when the subject of war with Russia comes up. They are almost itching to get the war going.
War with Russia ? Nuclear bombs and hypersonic missiles ? No problem ! Shutter 80% of the gas going to our biggest ally ? No problem !
I think it is just the irrationality and extremism that is in the Anglo axis psyche about Russia. They just don't have these feelings towards North Koreans or Iranians.
Because Russia keeps punching the knife (the Pukraine) rather than the attacker - Uncle Sham and GATO.
Russia has plenty of options - arming separatist/destabilising groups in N America. It could cyber attack. It could arm America's enemies, arm pirates to harm US sea lanes. It could expose economic, political, covid or other sleaze. It could destroy US/GATO intellectual property It could see US bases and ships overseas are destroyed by US enemies. With or without "plausible deniability" eg "wasn't us it was those Islamists you armed up".
I really cannot understand for the life of me why Russia hasn't done this. Putin just seems to be too "nice" ie deluding himself that he is going the right way.
He is going about it the right way
How you behave all returns back to you
Which is why the collective West was surprised by Africa, Asia, South America, etc.. for the most part refusing to get on board with their sanctions war on Russia and isolation of the country. Almost all refusing to get on board with it in fact.
And in fact many of them have taken advantage to buy and reexport Russian goods at cheaper prices, and/or set up alternatives to current global organizations.
All Russia really has to do is stay the course. Leave the desperate provocations to the neo-cons and Kiev.
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Firebird wrote:How do (the sane) people here think Russia might use the large numbers of new troops and equipment being added to the operation.
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Is this possible? What do people think? Or would Odessa be taken before a land blockade across the W Central Pukraine?
I sure hope they do the idea of attacking down to Kiev and cutting off/disrupting the supply to the conflict by the Polish border. Doing the same thing except with more forces will still take long af
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If that were true why have the alleged "Poles" not defected to the Russian side?
They would have went over to the Russian side of the front-line by now.
Poles defecting to the Russian side ? Never gonna happen. Nobody hates Russians more than Poles. Defecting to the Russian side is barely happening at all in this war. I doubt the Poles of all ppl are going to start
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30
d_taddei2 Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:28 pm
A nice little video about shahed 136/Geran and Arash drones.
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Goodmorning to all
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30
billybatts91 Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:24 pm
This is why Western Ukraine needs to be invaded and the Polish/Ukraine border shut.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luch_Design_Bureau
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #30
billybatts91 Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:33 pm
Russia better do good in November/December, I'm tired of reading bullshit like this. Just about Ukrainian offensives. It's frustrating cause we all know Russia can f*ck up these Nazis, hopefully with the newly added mobilized forces and new, more aggressive strategies from Surovikin, things will turn things around very very soon. I'm still very hopeful about this.
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Backman wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luch_Design_Bureau
Some damn fine trolling by Iran
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[/quote]sepheronx wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luch_Design_Bureau
Some damn fine trolling by Iran
I don't think so. Iran always tried to do business with Ukraine and Belarus before they did business with Russia. Because Ukraine was cheaper and they had a beef with Russia. It makes sense that they were dealing with Ukraine design bureaus in the early 2000's. China and India were doing the same thing. With everything from missiles to aircraft carriers and space programs.
Andre Martyanov has been saying this from day one. Credit to him
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You are aware the plant in question is from Ukraine and not Russia right?
So how would Russia be making Ukrainian drones.
Ukraine wouldn't have handed over the plans either and at the time Russia wouldn't have cared since drones was an afterthought for them.
In either case, if Iran handed over the schematics of Ukrainian drone that was a JV between Iran and Ukraine, it still doesn't absolve Iran.
Esit: and Smoothi X12 was saying they were made and designed in Russia. Not Ukraine. Or did he say they were designed in Ukraine?
So how would Russia be making Ukrainian drones.
Ukraine wouldn't have handed over the plans either and at the time Russia wouldn't have cared since drones was an afterthought for them.
In either case, if Iran handed over the schematics of Ukrainian drone that was a JV between Iran and Ukraine, it still doesn't absolve Iran.
Esit: and Smoothi X12 was saying they were made and designed in Russia. Not Ukraine. Or did he say they were designed in Ukraine?