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    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #45

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    Post  Hole Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:31 pm

    More info about the video Sprut-B posted:


    Another confirmation that the Ukrainian command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is hiding their real losses at the front.

    As a result of the well-coordinated work of our military, on June 10, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, in the building of the NATO (*coincidence?) office in the settlement. Veliky Burluk, Kupyansky district, Kharkiv region, an accurate hit by a kamikaze drone "Geran-2" destroyed more than 50 and wounded about 20 foreign mercenaries.

    By order of the local authorities, the territory of the building was urgently cordoned off, unauthorized persons were not allowed in, the mobile phones of all civilians passing by were examined, the bodies of the liquidated combatants were urgently taken out, both in military vehicles and in ambulances, to the morgue in the city of Minsk. Kupyansk.

    The Ukrainian side, in relation to this fact, stated the version that the strike was inflicted on a civilian object of victims and victims, with the exception of a 29-year-old fireman of the Kharkiv region GBOU (Piskun Mikhail) was not.
    The fireman was buried with all the honors and photo reports, which is quite predictable and cynical.

    While the Ukrainian authorities use mercenaries for military purposes, they endanger their own citizens, as whimsical foreigners are accustomed to being accommodated in comfortable conditions.

    Recall (
    https://t.me/Pisarev_Z/4630) that on June 28, a similar situation occurred in Kramatorsk. The local hotel where the foreign mercenaries were stationed became a legitimate target for a strike.


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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:34 pm

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    If you want to win the war, there's no place for BS copes and propaganda scores. Practicality always win the day.

    @Garry
    Malyutka is pretty complicated to use and it has not been used in Russian army for some time now, as much better options are available since the '70s.
    It is not issue of availability of rockets, but that there's no one that can operate them efficiently. They would have to retrain personel for its use. Serbia is still stuck with Malyutka, for the simple reason of not having any better options in domestic production.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:54 pm

    That list consists only for production components, please take notice.
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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:10 pm


    @Alamo
    Sure, but it is just an example. Most important items in this list are tank and 122 mm barrels. I'm sure there's much more being shipped than what is in this contract. And this is perfectly fine and logical. I hope same situation is with China, as well. They need to win the war.

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:14 pm

    I've uploaded same pic twice. This was the one I've meant to do.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:17 pm

    Of course.
    And as I said this cooperation didn't start in Feb 22.
    We talk about partners who fight a war hand by hand since 2015.
    Russkie would have to be stupid not to benefit from an enormous PPP advantage.
    Iranians proved to be trusted partners for years, and the scope of products they can supply is mindblowing.

    Edit :the second you have uploaded is ammunition. Full sets.

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    Post  caveat emptor Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:27 pm

    Yes that one was supposed to go in my second post.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:52 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:Yes that one was supposed to go in my second post.

    One thing came to my mind.
    There are more and more S-60 being used as direct fire support.
    Iranians still produce fresh new ammo for them, while Russkie dispose of old storage stocks.
    With visible results of multiple duds.
    Only here, you can multiply benefits.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:01 pm

    There is a very interesting and much telling indicator, that is traffic without AIS data. Lloyds is making this stats, and here is the cherry:
    It skyrocket at the beginning of 2022, and we are talking about a stable number of around 350 vessels a MONTH, with peaks of even 450 correlated with some interesting events on the front in the background/timetable.

    Russian trade with the EU has gone from about 200 billion a year to **** all in the space of a year and that trade had to be replaced with trade to other countries that could no longer go through European ports... I would think using their other ports would be expected...

    "In the name of Allah, a contract for the supply of ammunition between the Ministry of Defense and Logistics of the Iranian Armed Forces and Rosoboronexport"

    Of course, Russia and Iran will always trade in US dollars....

    And why would Russias company for exporting military equipment be buying things for the Russian military?


    If you want to win the war, there's no place for BS copes and propaganda scores. Practicality always win the day.

    It has nothing to do with coping, show me an official comment by someone in the Russian military or Iranian government that says Russia is buying anything from Iran that is military related.

    We know and can see the licence production in Russia of Iranian drone designs, but no mention of ammo.

    Malyutka is pretty complicated to use and it has not been used in Russian army for some time now, as much better options are available since the '70s.

    The earlier ones were manually flown making hits without lots of training difficult, but the later ones were semi automatic command to line of sight like later weapons.

    Sure, but it is just an example. Most important items in this list are tank and 122 mm barrels.

    Two of each... wow... game changing stuff... and when is this all going to be delivered?

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:40 pm

    Are you quite sure to know what you are arguing, by the way? scratch
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    Post  Sprut-B Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:47 pm

    Lancet strike compilation

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    Post  Isos Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:56 pm

    More likely it was for Wagner. Russia can use all those shells in 1 day. Nothing impressive.

    Funny thing, same contract for Ukraine by US would be 200 million$.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Jul 01, 2023 1:53 am

    Hello Fellow Z-Fans!

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    RF armor engaging Ukrainian counter-offensive forces


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    RF Geran drone strike on the Kiev foreign fighter barracks at Kharkov


    dogs taken in by RF artillery unit provide early warning form outside threats.

    "These are our "bells". We feed, we take care. Someone is coming - they notify, you will know in advance," a Russian serviceman told Zvezda.

    RF KA 52 strikes ukrainian collumn in donetsk region

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:48 am

    sepheronx wrote:This is such a retarded discussion and it's repeated what, 4th time now since the war started?

    Yes, but if we stopped talking about retarded things people might start to forget about the true depth of Ukropi stupidity. Nearly everything they say is literally drenched in stupid-juice. The most appropriate response is to discuss and ridicule in equal measures Razz

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:51 am

    ahmedfire wrote:
    As per the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology (KIIS)

    How many Ukrainians have close relatives and friends who were injured / killed due to the Russian invasion ?


    The absolute majority of Ukrainians - 78% - have close relatives or friends who were injured or killed due to the Russian invasion . Among those who have such close relatives or friends, the average number (the median value was used) was 7. That is, on average, such respondents have 7 close relatives or friends who were injured or killed.

     With:

    - 64% of Ukrainians have at least one close relative or friend who was wounded (on average, they have 5 wounded relatives),

    - and 63% have at least one close relative or friend who died (on average, they have 3 deceased loved ones).


    https://kiis.com.ua/?lang=ukr&cat=reports&id=1254&page=1

    Nazism has consequences clown

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:18 am

    I am sure not all of them are Nazi's. but there are sure a lot of them Bandera fanbois.

    Wait...Nazi's!?!. in Ukraine!?!.
    The pillar of Western freedom and Democracy!?!.

    https://mega.nz/folder/FsllAKaT#Mt0wzs7FZro0ZONajA-hlQ

    Sadly for them, Mr. TOS-1A does not discriminate.
    Mr.TOS-1A hates all lifeforms equally.
    And Mr.TOS-1A is always very angry.

    NSFW for charred dead troops


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    Post  mnztr Sat Jul 01, 2023 4:42 am

    There have been some surprising weapons that have made a big impact in the SMO. My list of surprising hall of famers:

    R37 - from AWACs/Tanker killer too multipurpose silver bullet.
    Tyulipan - From who needs such a big mortar. too OH SHIT! Now I get it
    Pion 207mm - From No one need more then 155 too WTF did we not build more of these
    Tos 1 - From "isn't the range kinda short? too I almost feel sorry for the poor *uckers - FIRE!!
    Krasnopol - From "shes no excalibur" too Holy ****, with a drone that thing is a tank killer and everything killer.


    Any other nominees?


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    Post  Isos Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:14 am

    Lancet won the war.

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    Post  Mir Sat Jul 01, 2023 9:26 am

    Don't forget the humble TM-46 Smile

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    Post  Regular Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:17 am

    Biggest surprises for me


    Lancet - I had no clue it will be very efficient artillery/air defence hunting system
    FPV drones - I didn’t expect western equipment to be decimated by couple hundred dollars worth of toy with a RPG warhead
    LMUR - accuracy. It’s surgical
    Glide bombs - I didn’t expect them to have such decisive effects

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:32 am

    More likely it was for Wagner. Russia can use all those shells in 1 day. Nothing impressive.

    I doubt Russia would use their own export company to supply Wagner or their own forces.

    It would be far more likely that Rosoboronexport was outsourcing products it could not supply to export customers because the supply chain is currently concentrating on the needs of the Russian military.

    Things like 122mm artillery rounds and 125mm and 152mm rounds are in demand by the Russian military so an export contract for such rounds or guns could be subcontracted out to Iran or China or North Korea for that matter... they wont be supporting Russia against the Ukraine, they will just be supplying weapons to a customer of Russian weapons while Russian weapon production is distracted and busy.

    Russia has said it is not buying weapons for use in Ukraine from any other country and most of the countries the west has accused of doing so like Iran and China and North Korea and South Africa have all denied it too.

    Why would they lie?

    The west has been funding Kiev since before 2014, why wouldn't countries help Russia?

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:48 am

    But of course they would.
    Kim's sister repeated that several times, that Korea stands side by side and will help in whatever they can.
    Try to imagine the ammo stocks for a country with paranoia on pair with NK ... I lack the imagination, honestly Laughing

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    Post  Werewolf Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:52 am

    ALAMO wrote:But of course they would.
    Kim's sister repeated that several times, that Korea stands side by side and will help in whatever they can.
    Try to imagine the ammo stocks for a country with paranoia on pair with NK ... I lack the imagination, honestly Laughing

    That hardly can be called Paranoia when 2.500.000 Koreans have been genocided and the Americans are still on their lands and have their hand up South Korea's ass, conducting military maritime operations at their coast and constantly threatening them with Military and economical warfare.

    We here are getting told only lies about North Korea and they are not crazy and quite sobber regarding world affairs and what is going on in the world. Kim Jung Un studied in Switzerland and speaks German.

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    Post  Arrow Sat Jul 01, 2023 11:54 am

    Why would they lie? The west has been funding Kiev since before 2014, why wouldn't countries help Russia? wrote:

    Iran supplies munitions, perhaps not only Iran. They can lie, but that doesn't change the fact. It is in the interests of Iran, China, and most of Asia that Russia wins over NATO in Ukraine.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:07 pm

    Werewolf wrote:[
    We here are getting told only lies about North Korea and they are not crazy and quite sobber regarding world affairs and what is going on in the world. Kim Jung Un studied in Switzerland and speaks German.

    Well, I have never been to NK, so won't dare to judge the matter.
    But I used to get familiar with NK construction and shipyard workers. It is a hardly known fact that NK is exporting labor on a wide scale, and this labor is being used in the EU countries without any hesitation.
    What is the most bizarre from the perspective of NK workers are involved in South Korean construction sites/investments.
    Sooooo ... let's say that I do have my own opinion at least about that.

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