Russian special military operation in Ukraine #45

Apparently, Putin met with Wagner war commanders on June 29th or 5 days after the mutiny. Peskov confirmed the meeting.
https://t.me/milinfolive/103338

Utkin or Wagner is a bold guy on the right, in the photo

SeigSoloyvov wrote:
You see tons of videos of APCs getting hit by the troops inside are fine, so no just because an apc gets tagged doesn't mean the crew and passengers are dead, also Ukraine is even able to tow a lot of thes vehicles back for repairs

Not so sure, on Leopards the Germans and Poles still haven't come to an agreement of where to do it, availability of parts etc.

billybatts91 wrote:Turkey and now China…unfortunately as of now, neither of these countries can really be trusted…Iran right now is the closest “friend” Russia has. Putin needs to wise up…

China are not mugs, most likely China was humouring the USA, like they did with Blinken, the "Xi is a dictator" by Biden has done way more damage to China/US relations than the Americans realise, Yellen went to China to beg China buy more US debt bonds, support the US as number 1 economy and remove sanctions  and restrictions on Micron, without US lifting there restrictions and sanctions on China regarding micro processors
and Biden intends to put more sanctions on China regarding Micro processors

Your picture doesn't prove 2300 officers alone during just the counter offensive, it also has a colon for each month.


Now if this was total sure but you claimed during the on going counter offensive alone, perhaps you meant something else but that's how it read as you typed it.

I'll be clear Russia hasn't killed 25k men since the start of this counter offensive alone. That is what was claimed and that is what I called fantasy and it is there is no numbers nor data that supports such a silly number.

Ukraine isn't conducting massive assaults after the first few days they resorted to smaller scale infantry Infiltration tactics,

a wee update China is raging a top US official meet with Dali Lama in India and China is spitting blood

Right no one in Europe has no idea how to fix battle damage.....that's a huh real funny take

Enjoy your imaginary numbers that are based on highly inaccurate third party numbers. That even the Russians don't agree with, your the one sniffing copium here pal

Increasingly wondering, what is out there that makes some of you more and more warmonger dunno
Is it something in a diet, or just Summer made you lazy and need some entertainment?

Have to agree, some here repeat western talking points and propaganda and the solution is always escalation... which does not make a lot of sense for Russia because right now they are winning on the ground and the enemy are doing stupid things.

...and the misadventures of the Wehrmacht continue.....

The guy with the camera on his head seems to have the PK machine gun but does not seem to be doing any shooting... he provides the squads fire power and he is hiding in the grass and not firing most of the time... which probably kept him alive of course.

They riak Ukraine getting pulled into NATO and more.

Just takes one HATO nation to say no to Ukraine joining to stop that happening and right now there are probably quite a few HATO countries that don't want the responsibility of protecting Ukraine.

As I said the longer this war goes on, the worse the outcome for the Russians.

But it is the west that is being damaged by all this, and the Kiev forces are getting weaker all the time and their ability to fight against battle hardened Russian troops changes for the worse all the time.

Cluster munitions are a Pandoras box because Russia has plenty of them in all sorts of forms from artillery through missiles and rockets and air delivered munitions and in some situations they are vastly more efficient at killing troops spread out over an area on the ground, so that would benefit the Russian military to be able to start using cluster munitions of all types... the death rates of the Ukro nazis would actually go up...

I suspect that the Russians couldn't care less about grain exports, what they really want to stop are any imports the ships might bring in and to get all those merchant ships out of the way.

Most of the exports so far from the Ukraine went to the EU and no further so stopping Ukrainian grain exports is very much in their interests... it cuts off income for Kiev and makes the EU have to buy grain on the international market.

The Russian grain in their ports wont last forever and if they try to steal it then that sets another useful precedent for Russia now does it not?

It will also force Russia to use its own ports to export grain instead of using western ports.

So, if they were 'magnanimous' and for Rest of World PR purposes, they could instead say that any ship now loading will get safe passage on leaving.

The safe grain passage route was used by the Ukraine to get the special explosives used to damage the Crimean bridge into position for use, and all those naval surface drone attacks we keep hearing about are also launched from the safe passage route.

Most of the ships returning to the Ukrainian ports probably had weapons and ammo on board and without the agreement and not being able to inspect them then it makes no sense to allow them passage.

The Syrians and RuAF have started attacking Turkish proxy forces in northern Syria which no doubt upset Erdogan.

Well Erdogan needs to accept that they are in Syria and if he wants to keep them safe then let them enter Turkey... but I doubt he wants them in Turkey.

Whilst time doesn't seem to matter to them, minimising the effect on the civilian population does.

Time would matter if they were on a war footing and their economy was tanking, but they are not even on a war footing and their economy is actually doing better than before the conflict started.... lots of things they have been working on are coming on line and actually making things good... and cutting out the western middlemen who were leaches on the Russian economy.

When you superimpose on top of that the economic situation in Europe with, at the head of it, the German industrial economy starting to crumble under the energy prices and supply issues, you again have to conclude that Russia has the trump cards.

And winter is coming.

Remember the Europeans agreed to this because they thought that Putin would be kicked out of office in disgrace and the Russian economy would tank and collapse and the west would come in with loans and take ownership of things they thought were the most profitable and Russias future would be the 1990s over and over like Groundhog day forever.

Again if Russia doesn't take Ukraine what's ever left will join NATO, The leaders remain intact, good portion of Ukies citizens now support joining NATO.

How would you know what most Ukies want.... were they even asked?

There is no attacking then leaving and not having Ukraine go to NATO, it's either you take it or NATO takes what you do not, that is all there is no in-between

Four regions have joined the Russian Federation, so at the bare minimum they need to take that territory and 150km beyond that to prevent Kievs artillery from doing what they have been doing the last best part of a decade.

When that extra 150km of territory is taken then the locals will get a say in a referendum and if they want to join the RF or remain neutral then Russia needs to offer them security guarantees... which means taking another 150km of territory to keep them safe, but I suspect after taking the first 150km the Kiev military will collapse so it will become a COIN operation against hard core nazis. Western Ukraine might be negotiated with Poland because there probably isn't going to be a Ukraine left... maybe Belarus might want some more territory too...

They will get to get their own say, but if they want to join EU and HATO then they will be voting with their feet if you know what I mean.

Apparently, Putin met with Wagner war commanders on June 29th or 5 days after the mutiny. Peskov confirmed the meeting.

Wagner is a big organisation with jobs all over the place Progo baby is the rich guy that owns it all but he is not ex military and probably does very little... I doubt he even does the books... these guys will be who run it and who will probably continue to run the overseas operations while progo probably disappears or appears in the west some sort of anti Putin hero...

Say what you like Wagner is doing good work around the world... just because their owner is a dick you should not throw the baby out with the bath water.

Russia should’ve never let these rats out alive…big mistake.

Alamo keeps hitting the nail, but its even worst for nato.
The Europeans are done, they have no capabilities whatsoever to even wage a proxy war against Russia, much less a real no shit war.
Their industries have collapsed, not just becuase of energy prices, but also the fact that the commodities needed to even begin a military buildup has also gone sky high due to limited supply.
And tgis is to say nothing about the Euro inflation cuased by overptinting.

In the US its even worst, they have to face both Russia and China.
Their dollar is being printed straight to hell, due to their reverse repos lending to banks in order to keep their economy afloat.
Along with all the debt they exported is coming back thanks to global de-dollarization.
All of which is cuasing massive inflation.

If the US even tries to militarize, it will automatically cuase hyperinflation, which may cuase civil war.
And they are having serious recruitment problems, so if they even try to get serious against either Russia or China, they would need to conscript, which again thank to the terrible political situation in the US, could cuase a civil war.

All of which create a situation where the US would end up fighting Russia, China and at least half the American population, all at the same time.

Thos gents is what we call checkmate.
The West doesnt have a chance in hell against Ruusia or China, muchless both.

i really do not want to repeat again the entire list of why what NATO sends into ukraine, is gone forever.
even in Afghanistan it was standard procedure to just throw a Thermite grenade into it when you had to abandon the vehicle.
And call in an airstrike to obliterate the hull later.

There very few instances i know of recovery was because troops died in those vehicles on a particular bad way.
And the vehicle needed to be stripped and interiors scraped to recover their bodily remains.

But yes, Alamo's previous comments on the losses of NATO hardware and how this is not salvageable is accurate.

...and yeah, Rheinmetall still wants to place a factory in Ukraine for "repairs"....
I guess they do not take a look on RF sources when making business decisions to move to an active warzone.
That or they are just trolling Kiev.

I mean, it is not like the Ukrainian airspace is full of angry lawnmowers and RF cruise missiles right?.....

Alamo keeps hitting the nail, but its even worst for nato.
The Europeans are done, they have no capabilities whatsoever to even wage a proxy war against Russia, much less a real no shit war.
Their industries have collapsed, not just becuase of energy prices, but also the fact that the commodities needed to even begin a military buildup has also gone sky high due to limited supply.
And tgis is to say nothing about the Euro inflation cuased by overptinting.

In the US its even worst, they have to face both Russia and China.
Their dollar is being printed straight to hell, due to their reverse repos lending to banks in order to keep their economy afloat.
Along with all the debt they exported is coming back thanks to global de-dollarization.
All of which is cuasing massive inflation.

If the US even tries to militarize, it will automatically cuase hyperinflation, which may cuase civil war.
And they are having serious recruitment problems, so if they even try to get serious against either Russia or China, they would need to conscript, which again thank to the terrible political situation in the US, could cuase a civil war.

All of which create a situation where the US would end up fighting Russia, China and at least half the American population, all at the same time.

This gents is what we call checkmate.
The West doesnt have a chance in hell against Ruusia or China, muchless both

A Wehrmacht stormtrooper team received the Darwin Award for jumping inside an abandoned Russian trench line.


What is it with these Nazi zombie soldiers jumping around carelessly on the battlefield like baboons in the Sahara? Is this part of their superior NATZO training program? Did they not suspect that these trenches could be mined by the Russians?

“Russia has doubled the production of SU-34 and SU-35 fighters for the needs of the Special Military Operation,” - the first deputy general director of Rostec.

Vladimir Artyakov also said that the Kinzhal hypersonic complex is already being mass-produced and in the volumes required by the Russian Ministry of Defense.
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/72649

Airbornewolf wrote:

I mean, it is not like the Ukrainian airspace is full of angry lawnmowers and RF cruise missiles right?.....

Turks started building Bayraktars' factory - known location lets wait till all lines are assembled and almost ready to start. What possibly could go wrong here?

Bradley holocaust continues.

Hole wrote:

Which nation's wunderwaffle was that? Looks French. Am I right?