Russian special military operation in Ukraine #45

Perfect pic to show the current state of NATO

thegopnik wrote:France is talking about long range missiles.

France, with the Brits, runner out of ordnance after two weeks campaign over Libya.

Twitter sources: RuAF have knocked the AFU troops out of Berkhovka.


VKS will take care of Storm Scalps. 

GarryB wrote:
Good example would be Alamo who has recently said some things out of character. Nothing he would be banned for but unusual for him in my opinion... but everyone has their buttons don't they.

I suppose you are addressing my answer to Ispan.
It was perfectly fine.
I really don't care.
I am not here to form an army and rule a kingdom, but to get some syncretic info the other guys with shared madness already covered.
Our Spanian friend looks like someone who came here to get applause. And takes heavy the moments when someone doesn't care about his graphomania.
In the matter of casualties of this war, he is simply wrong. There are so many indicators for this, that discussing that is really pointless - the list of confirmed names is longer than what he seems to believe.
If that hurts his feelings, I don't care either.

My guess is, that it is a matter of social development, in a neutral way. People who are bred in western civilization, in a wide understanding, really have a problem with understanding that. The scale ant the level of atrocity.

It is a civil war in Russian orthodox society, the most cruel act of the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
It is being carried at a scale unknown for the last decades. Multiple decades.
It is fueled by the nationalism of both sides, ambitions of both sides, a different understanding of security for both sides and last but not least, the unimaginable corruption scale in Ukraine and unimaginable brainwashing carried for the last 30 years.

In the whole Gulf War, adjusted losses of Iraquis amounted to some 30 000 KIA, down from the first claimed 100+.
A whole military campaign lasted for a little less than 7 months, but the active phase with artillery usage and direct fire support missions amounted to 6 weeks.
The coalition fired 60 000 artillery rounds IN TOTAL, having no means of effective fire correction in the present understanding.

In a second war of 2003, hostilities took 5 (FIVE) weeks, leaving some 30 000 Iraqui soldiers dead - yet the number still varies from down 10k up to 50. With a total of 34 000 155mm shells fired. IN TOTAL and THIRTY FOUR THOUSANDS.

Today, what we see is a full scale European grade, involving more than a million men on both sides, highly technical and heavy warfare lasting for 17 months. With up to 50 000 artillery rounds fired DAILY. And by "artillery" we mean MLRS much more devastating rather than 155mm cal round. With just-in-time delivered recon and correction applied to the fire squads within minutes. In which one side has a leverage of 1:6 from the very beginning, only increasing. The same side benefits an absolute air dominance, and owners the strike tools capable of penetrating the entire strategic depth - and is doing that on a daily basis with a strong devotion to killing manpower.

If someone can't figure out and extrapolate the consequences ... there is nothing to be said, really.

Only Russikie can hold this, that is why these poor hochols are dying there by thousands. The only nation that can potentially understand this, are the Poles - with the same level of retarded naiveness and Prometheus syndrome.
Any other NATO army would have been in a total shock and disarray by now, unable to command and operate. While Russkie are killing the third army filled with Ukrainian stuffing.

GarryB wrote:

have you come across any footage of body cams on Ukrainians coming under fire from Tos-1? Someone must have survived!! Not seen any yet, .

Not sure the memory card would survive the shock wave and heat.

There was one material from Mariopol, with a room full of burned bodies. Nothing nice to be seen, really.

ALAMO wrote:My guess is, that it is a matter of social development, in a neutral way. People who are bred in western civilization, in a wide understanding, really have a problem with understanding that. The scale ant the level of atrocity.

It is a civil war in Russian orthodox society, the most cruel act of the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
It is being carried at a scale unknown for the last decades. Multiple decades.
It is fueled by the nationalism of both sides, ambitions of both sides, a different understanding of security for both sides and last but not least, the unimaginable corruption scale in Ukraine and unimaginable brainwashing carried for the last 30 years.

In the whole Gulf War, adjusted losses of Iraquis amounted to some 30 000 KIA, down from the first claimed 100+.
A whole military campaign lasted for a little less than 7 months, but the active phase with artillery usage and direct fire support missions amounted to 6 weeks.
The coalition fired 60 000 artillery rounds IN TOTAL, having no means of effective fire correction in the present understanding.

In a second war of 2003, hostilities took 5 (FIVE) weeks, leaving some 30 000 Iraqui soldiers dead - yet the number still varies from down 10k up to 50. With a total of 34 000 155mm shells fired. IN TOTAL and THIRTY FOUR THOUSANDS.

Today, what we see is a full scale European grade, involving more than a million men on both sides, highly technical and heavy warfare lasting for 17 months. With up to 50 000 artillery rounds fired DAILY. And by "artillery" we mean MLRS much more devastating rather than 155mm cal round. With just-in-time delivered recon and correction applied to the fire squads within minutes. In which one side has a leverage of 1:6 from the very beginning, only increasing. The same side benefits an absolute air dominance, and owners the strike tools capable of penetrating the entire strategic depth - and is doing that on a daily basis with a strong devotion to killing manpower.

Only Russikie can hold this, that is why these poor hochols are dying there by thousands. The only nation that can potentially understand this, are the Poles - with the same level of retarded naiveness and Prometheus syndrome.

Any other NATO army would have been in a total shock and disarray by now, unable to command and operate. While Russkie are killing the third army filled with Ukrainian stuffing.

You put that very well.