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    Post  Airbornewolf Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:53 pm

    Sprut-B wrote:Graphic warning

    This is becoming a new trend among Ukro cannon fodders to record their own deaths


    NSFW for dying troops

    Pause the video here at around 0:12, they are staring right at an RF mine.

    18+ Ukrainian POV, failed Ukrainian assault at Pyatikhatki, Zaporozhye Region


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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:57 pm

    franco wrote:The Wagner PMCs handed over more than 2,000 pieces of equipment and weapons, 20,000 small arms and 2,500 tons of ammunition to the Russian Defense Ministry. The equipment will be sent to the front.  

    https://twitter.com/colonelcassad/status/1679142031745069056

    That scum needs to hand over those responsible for murder of Russian pilots before they all get sent back to prison where they always belonged

    Still, a zip-tie around the neck and a shallow grave would be more appropriate treatment for that traitor vermin

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    The Russian Army has broken through the Ukrainian line near Liman Pervy and is conducting assault operations in the vicinity of the settlement.
    Kupyansk is under heavy Russian artillery fire. ( Slavyangrad )
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    Mobile FPV drone team.

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    Shoigu visiting Remdiezel and other factories in Kazan.

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    Some of the Wagner stuff.

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:12 pm

    https://t.me/milinfolive/103475
    ❗The commander of the 58th Combined Arms Army of the Southern Military District, Major General Ivan Popov (Spartak), wrote down an appeal, where he announced his resignation from his post and its reasons.

    Popov reports that he raised questions about the lack of counter-battery combat, artillery reconnaissance stations and, as a result, the death of Russian soldiers in connection with this.

    According to the major general, the issues raised by him at the highest level led to his lightning resignation in one day.

    "Our army could not be broken through from the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we were hit from the rear by the senior commander. Treacherously and vilely beheading the army at the most difficult and tense moment," Popov summed up.

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:21 pm

    https://t.me/rybar/49625

    Ex-commander of the 58th Combined Arms Army Major General Ivan Popov publicly addressed his subordinates and confirmed the fact of his own resignation by decision of the senior commander (we are talking about Valery Gerasimov).

     The topic of Ivan Popov's resignation is quite sensitive - in fact, this is a natural process of publicizing problems in the entire structure of the Armed Forces of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.  After Prigozhin’s rebellion, a “witch hunt” began, and again the principle “stated the problem is the enemy” was at the head of the table.

    Popov said that a rotation of fighters is needed, who over and over again successfully repel attacks on the front line in the Zaporozhye direction.  Due to the refusal of the senior authorities, he was rumored to have announced that he would directly report to the Supreme Commander.  After that - allegedly - he was removed.

    ▪ The fact that Popov is accused of “blackmailing” the Chief of the General Staff is emphasized by the Western and Ukrainian media.  In this regard, it is very difficult to deny the fact that now the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense is based mainly on positive reports, which should interrupt the negative (for the sake of objectivity, it is enough).  Therefore, the audience believes in such news quite willingly.

    ▪ Popov enjoys colossal support from the personnel: the fighters on the front line were greatly demoralized by the news about the dismissal of the "simple" and "understandable" honest General Popov.  Yes, he may have had his faults.  But against the background of the commanders, who laid down dozens of personnel for the sake of another "star of the Hero" or the glory of the liberator of settlements, Popov clearly stood out for the better.

    ▪ The conflict between Popov and Gerasimov highlights the main thing: the lack of unity in the RF Armed Forces.  And the enemy will surely take advantage of this.  Both in campaigns to discredit the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and their slander, and in custom-made publications.  And, of course, Russia will suffer from this.  And this is the saddest thing.

    We hope that the voice of reason will prevail.  In fact, from the point of view of political PR, for the leadership of the Russian Ministry of Defense - which is famous for its inflexible position - admitting that attitude towards Popov was wrong, would be a real information bomb that would allow him to restore faith in common sense and positive changes in the Russian Ministry of Defense.  Unfortunately, this is not enough today.
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    Post  mnztr Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:00 pm

    [quote="Airbornewolf"]
    Sprut-B wrote:Graphic warning

    This is becoming a new trend among Ukro cannon fodders to record their own deaths



    Pause the video here at around 0:12, they are staring right at an RF mine.

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    What that remotely detonated or trip wired? They can't have been so stupid as to stand on a HUGE anti tank mine. But then again the have yellow targeting aids on their helmets fer gawd sakes.
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:02 pm


    Was this Popov guy in any way shape or form connected to terrorists from Wagner?

    If yes he should be executed on the spot




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    Post  mnztr Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:27 pm

    Godric wrote:
    bandit6 wrote:Russia just doesn't know how much trouble it's in. Germany and Japan made the mistake of underestimating US industrial production. It will only take a year or two to ramp up production and Ukrainian magazines will filled to the till

    Best solution is to nuke them into submition otherwise Russia is screwed

    back then America was the strongest manufacturing country in the world, that is no longer the case they are also $32 trillion and rising fast in debt, America is not the same country of the 1940s in many ways, it is economically, financially and morally bankrupt country


    Also Germany and japan had very little oil and raw materials. Russia has a SHITLOAD of that stuff. A boatload of shitloads even.

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    Post  franco Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:19 am

    caveat emptor wrote:https://t.me/milinfolive/103475
    ❗The commander of the 58th Combined Arms Army of the Southern Military District, Major General Ivan Popov (Spartak), wrote down an appeal, where he announced his resignation from his post and its reasons.

    Popov reports that he raised questions about the lack of counter-battery combat, artillery reconnaissance stations and, as a result, the death of Russian soldiers in connection with this.

    According to the major general, the issues raised by him at the highest level led to his lightning resignation in one day.

    "Our army could not be broken through from the front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we were hit from the rear by the senior commander. Treacherously and vilely beheading the army at the most difficult and tense moment," Popov summed up.

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    I'm not one who believes there are no problems in the RAF's and some are indeed major but I really don't like to see this.

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    Post  diabetus Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:52 am

    The public dirty laundry and drama that is repeatedly put on full display in the Russian command structure is just pathetic.

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    Post  T-47 Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:14 am

    Crybar crying for Popov, enough to conclude that his removal was correct.
    Man literally kept his deputy in Berdyansk without proper defense for 4 weeks and let ukros kill him with storm shadow. And that wasn't even the first strike on his HQs. He didn't even bother to move them.

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:55 am

    guys, we are getting too ahead of ourselves.

    Unfortunately sometimes problems happen in conflicts.  What Russia deals with is nothing compared to what is happening out west.  Yes, some generals and commanders may try to get more clout by making large claims.  They figure it may look good for their future career but it really doesn't.  Maybe they didn't catch the hint from Prigohzin.

    Anyway, there are plenty of other generals and others to take the helm.

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    Post  franco Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:16 am

    Donetsk, Jul 11 — DAN. The Donetsk People’s Republic has set up all its territorial and district election commissions, regional Election Commission chairman Vladimir Vysotsky said on Tuesday.

    There are 36 territorial and 615 district election commissions, ” Vysotsky told the Donetsk News Agency. “After taking a training course, election staff will take tests in their areas of expertise.”

    Parties can appoint their representatives with a consultative vote to the Republic’s Election Commission after the registration of the list of candidates. Russia’s Central Election Commission said that the registration of candidates for the September elections in the new regions would begin on July 24.

    On September 10 which is Single Voting Day in Russia, the DPR will hold elections to the People’s Council (parliament) and municipal bodies. The voting can last for several days in connection with the frontline situation in the Republic.

    https://dan-news.ru/en/politics/election-commissions-formed-in-dpr/

    Donetsk, Jun 13 — DAN. The Donetsk People’s Republic is ready to begin the election process expecting the decision by the Central Election Commission, member of the presidential Council for Civil Society and Human Rights, DPR parliamentarian Yelena Shishkina said on Tuesday.

    “We’re awaiting permission from the CEC to launch the election campaign because of the martial law in our region and (and all the) new regions, ” Shishkina said.

    The Republic’s legal system has already been adapted to federal laws, she said adding that the DPR planned to complete the voting within three days. The DPR will elect deputies to the parliament and the councils of 12 towns and 18 municipal districts. “As the election draws closer, a decision will be made after consultations with the Russian Defense Ministry on whether it will be online or onsite voting, because people’s life and health have priority, ” she said.

    In May, President Vladimir Putin signed a law on elections in the regions under martial law, to enable the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics and Kherson and Zaporozhye regions to elect deputies to the regional parliaments.

    https://dan-news.ru/en/politics/dpr-fully-ready-for-elections--parliamentarian/

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    Post  TMA1 Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:17 am

    Is it T-47? Where you get that info on Popov? I find his resignation and airing dirty laundry in public too much like Prigozhin. They are still investigating. Could he be involved? Is he flailing about because he knows he is caught? And now with that general killed under this Popov guy's district. Something stinks. Agreed that there are some serious problems in the Russian military but this seems too connected to other horseshit we have witnessed as of late. Dont trust this Popov one bit. He knows the mod will bit speak of things in public. Stinks of trying to massage his own image before any bad shit might come out.

    If you got more info on this guy and the situation (particularly with this killed general as well) please share. Much obliged if so.

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    Post  nomadski Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:37 am

    Comparisons of different wars ? Only of limited use . The only constant is the violent loss of life . Is Ukraine like Syria ? Only as far as there is River that partitions and opposing sides in different camps . Generalisations are a mistake . No two circumstances are identical . Choices only exist in a confused mind . Careful and particular analysis is needed in the exact existing circumstances . Do we have access to classified data ? None of us do ! The General who says " ...nothing can break us at the front and....... there is something lacking at the front , " is contradicting himself . How much territory has exchange hands by war ? How much by the vote ? What is the natural condition ? Even a Snake gives a warning , before striking and never afterwards .
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    Post  Arrow Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:02 am

    There is no scenario were NATO can win. Russia will not remain to conventional means if they do not need to. wrote:

    Russia can deal a big blow to NATO even with a conventional missile strike. During SMO, they fired more cruise missiles than all of NATO in the last 30 years. In total, they can fire over several hundred cruise missiles in a few hours, and ballistic Iskanders, Cirkons, Kindzhal, Onyx etc.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:12 am

    If Russia doesn't remain conventional then we all die as neither will NATO so moot point and Russia could fire hundreds of missiles that will not bring it victory at all.

    This mindset is laughable, Russia is doing this with Ukraine and it's nearly two years in and not any closer to victoryz try it with NATO which will quickly shift to wartime and the Russians will simply get overran and out produced.

    it's pure moronic thoughts to think missile strikes are going to make NATO quit, you will need to occupy the countries etc and Russia doesn't have that kind of manpower no one does
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:16 am

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    What that remotely detonated or trip wired? They can't have been so stupid as to stand on a HUGE anti  tank mine. But then again the have yellow targeting aids on their helmets fer gawd sakes.
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    It is not anti-tank one, but anti-personnel. MON. He identified it saying "MONka stoit". Most probably MON-90, as it lacks the legs of older type MON-50.
    It can be detonated manually by an operator, using a wired detonator. Or seismic one. Or circuit break electric. Nasty shit.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Jul 13, 2023 11:21 am

    [quote="bandit6"]Russia just doesn't know how much trouble it's in. Germany and Japan made the mistake of underestimating US industrial production. It will only take a year or two to ramp up production and Ukrainian magazines will filled to the till


    Tbf Japan knew day one it was going to get out produced, They knew they had a year at best. They hoped to win in that one year cause if they didn't they knew it was over.

    Germany counted on Japan winning.

    As for Russia the actual military commanders know a full scale war (conventional )with NATO is a L. That's why they are trying to prevent Ukraine from going into NATO. Only armchair fools here think Russia can win a conventional war with a NATO

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