lancelot wrote:
What would they get? The Tiger helicopter? The French wanted to spend the money to fix the issues with helicopter. The Germans balked at it.
So it is a half baked piece of shit of a thing.
There is also the Mangusta I guess. But it seems to only get bought by someone wanting to get kickbacks out of the deal.
A good choice IMHO would have been the AH-1Z Viper that the US Marines want to get rid of. 100% proven design.
It is not even the point bro.
Objectively speaking, Euro MIC used to be much more competent and potent rather than US based.
Europe produced every single piece of war machines, at lower cost, and some of those proved to be much better.
What is an issue here, is a fact that
The Stopping Europe project succeded in 100%. Not only the real Euro integration was stopped, but a lot of damage was made to the things already achieved.
Europe constructed two attack helis, and both are actually quite potent platforms. Four different tanks. Two top notch multirole planes. Numerous APCs. The best artillery NATO has. The best AD assets NATO has. It is all coming from Europe.
As I said, the war in 404 is antiEuro project first of all, when Russia is only a secondary goal, and Ukraine is just a broken tool.
Now imagine the copium-fueled disputes about this next Wunderwaffe.
Yes, they did have 200 units of S-300, with a few thousand rockets for them. Yes, they had 70 units of Buk, with thousands of missiles for them. Yes, they used to have hundreds of Osa, Strela, Tunguska, Tor, Shilka systems. Yes, they received the latest NASAM, Iris and Patriot units. None of those helped them, but here comes the knight on a white horse! Russkie will shit their pants!
Regular wrote:“ Russian President Putin agreed to extend the Ukraine grain deal, Turkish President Erdogan announced.
(Anadolu)”
In a case you have missed that ...
Turkey is one of top 5 Russian grain buyers.
And the bulk of Ukro grain export is carried by trucks.
There are entire land trains of trucks on Polish A4 heading west in fukin' convoys.
That should give you some better perspective to the matter.