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    Post  Godric Sat Jul 22, 2023 7:30 pm

    a little bit off topic, apparently the daughter of Ukraine's defence minister paid $7 million for a house/mansion near Cannes in France, the people that are left in Ukraine and the Americans are raging about it after all the corruption and selling of stolen weapons supplied to Ukraine from western countries

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    Post  kvs Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:24 pm



    Borrell spewing complete fabrications about Russia. What stock piles of fertilizer and grain in Odessa ports? EU newspeak converts
    weapons into grain and fertilizer.

    "Freedom of navigation". LOL.

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:25 pm

    Godric wrote:a little bit off topic, apparently the daughter of Ukraine's defence minister paid $7 million for a house/mansion near Cannes in France, the people that are left in Ukraine and the Americans are raging about it after all the corruption and selling of stolen weapons supplied to Ukraine from western countries


    Miserable shameless bunch of corrupt disgraceful f*cks

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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 22, 2023 9:39 pm

    EU newspeak converts
    weapons into grain and fertilizer.
    What did you expect from the EU?  dunno

    Miserable shameless bunch of corrupt disgraceful f*cks
    What did you expect from Banderites?  dunno

    Easy one.  Very Happy

    Nothing to do with Kinzhal.
    Every weapon has her own purpose.
    Waiting for the strategic hypersonic missile fitting inside the weapons bay(s) of the Tu-160...  Very Happy

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    Post  lyle6 Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:37 pm

    Goblin Reznikov's daughter is a hot babe? How'd that happen? Razz

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    Post  AlfaT8 Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:38 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Correct its inflation, i know some believe its just profiteering,

    So you are saying that the US MIC has turned over a new leaf and is now honestly keeping costs and prices and profit margins to a minimum so the troops get the best possible product for the best possible price...

    You are a joker... jocolor


    The hell???
    When did you become a believer in the CPI?

    You gonna trust the FED?

    Profeteering isnt the only factor here, the inflation is real, no matter how hard the goverment tries to hide it.

    Its not just "The Evil Rich Bourgeoisie". Rolling Eyes
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    Post  billybatts91 Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:10 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Godric wrote:a little bit off topic, apparently the daughter of Ukraine's defence minister paid $7 million for a house/mansion near Cannes in France, the people that are left in Ukraine and the Americans are raging about it after all the corruption and selling of stolen weapons supplied to Ukraine from western countries


    Miserable shameless bunch of corrupt disgraceful f*cks

    They’re all corrupt. That‘s the reality…That’s why it’s smart not to kiss any elite’s ass…Russian special military operation in Ukraine #46 - Page 13 Img_1411

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    Post  kvs Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:31 pm

    The CPI in the US, and likely the rest of NATO since it follows the leader, is manipulated BS. Hedonics adjustments make comparison of
    product types from the 1980s and before with today meaningless. An ad hoc reduction in price is assigned to new features on TVs, etc.
    This is nonsense since a TV is a TV even if the 1950s variants have little in common with the 2020s variants. Non-existent products
    that maintain 100% of their ancient characteristics do not have price, obviously.

    The other CPI scam is fixed weights for different product classes. So food is 13% of the CPI metric. I have been observing a roughly
    7% annual food price increase here in Kanada over the last couple of decades when the CPI was 2%. Housing costs have been going through
    the roof, but they do not figure in the CPI since CPI does not include real estate prices and only includes rents and "equivalent rents". This
    is more BS since it allows a fake rent to be assigned to a house which has nothing to do with its price.

    The standard of living has been sliding hard in the US and Kanada but officially things are hunky dory.

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    Post  kvs Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:33 am

    The Kiev regime has used cassette munitions against the village of Zhuravlyovka in the Belgorod Oblast in Russia. The US was harping how the
    Kiev regime has given written guarantees that it will not use cluster munitions on civilian targets.

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    Post  PhSt Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:39 am

    They’re all corrupt. That‘s the reality…That’s why it’s smart not to kiss any elite’s ass…

    Yeah right then you proceed to posting NATZO Propaganda Bullocks lol Laughing


    This is the typical NATZO Shill playbook, first post favorable contents about Russia, pretend to support Russia with the intent to fool people into thinking the sleeper shill is on Russia's side, then when there is an opportunity make lousy posts about how corrupt the Russian leadership, how Russia is performing badly, Rusia's leadership needs to be replaced, blah blah blah. Rolling Eyes

    Its obvious that the intent of these shills is to turn around people's opinions about Russia, by criticizing the Russian leadership, NATZO shills and their unfortunate victims support NATZO plans to overthrow the Russian government and create chaos within the country. Russia needs to start becoming more aggressive and track down and dispose off these NATZO agents attack

    sniper Kill all NAFO agents and their families attack

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    Post  kvs Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:00 am

    The Putin's palaces story is retarded drivel that lives on since it is faith based and not fact based. No entity has been able to find Putin's billions
    and every single claim of a Putin palace turns out to be inane. Like government buildings (former aristocratic mansions and palaces that are restored),
    hotels (the one Navalny went into a frenzy over) and not a single actual property. Meanwhile Zelensky owns mansions in the US and that is not
    an issue.

    The corruption smear on Putin is precisely because he is not corrupt. He is immune to NATzO influence which relies on corruption. The US is
    the global locus of corruption and uses its fiat confetti to buy off every crook on the planet. This includes the "elites" of Europe and clowns
    like Navalny.

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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:39 am

    mnztr wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    mnztr wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Arkanghelsk wrote:Poland Considering Sending Troops to Western Ukraine - Russian Foreign Intel Head.....
    Best news all year
    Once they are over the line blow them to pieces alongside entire current geopolitical order, all consequence free
    I think Russia will let them in, cut them off with an attack south from Belarus, Force them to capitulate and force Poland to negotiate for their release with very onerous terms.
    Fùck that shit
    Russians negotiating = Russians loosing
    Just kill them all, simple as that
    Dumb fantasy taboo needs to be popped and Poles volunteered to be the lab rats
    Doesn't even matter who gets roasted, could be Danes or Portuguese or Romanians or whoever, same result

    No durable peace is possible without negotiation. Even the Germans found out the hard way, you can't kill all of the people all of the time.

    Who is talking about peace? They are in the middle of the war

    Peace without victory is defeat and Russians have 100% track record of getting fucked in the ass during negotiations

    Killing official NATO troops in Ukraine is consequence-free method of ending NATO

    Not doing it if opportunity presents itself would be high treason


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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:46 am

    Godric wrote:a little bit off topic, apparently the daughter of Ukraine's defence minister paid $7 million for a house/mansion near Cannes in France, the people that are left in Ukraine and the Americans are raging about it after all the corruption and selling of stolen weapons supplied to Ukraine from western countries


    Hey, it's her money

    I ain't seeing anyone asking it back or calling the cops





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    Post  thegopnik Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:51 am

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:39 am

    billybatts91 wrote:They’re all corrupt. That‘s the reality…That’s why it’s smart not to kiss any elite’s ass…Russian special military operation in Ukraine #46 - Page 13 Img_1411

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    Naturally, but it's a different situation

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:29 am

    Now, if they can provide actual proof of it with the deeds and such, then maybe we can talk. Otherwise........

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    Post  Sprut-B Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:33 am

    Quality of RT's journalism.


    They're using a Mig-35 picture for an entire article written on the Su-35. Even a kid could get a picture of the Su-35 in a second just by searching for it on Google. Russia is wasting its taxpayers money on these idiots for nothing.

    Martyanov was right that journalists are some of the most stupid and morally deprived individuals, regardless of country, and most people working at RT English aren't even Russians to begin with. So anything written on RT should be taken with a huge pinch of salt.

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    Post  Sprut-B Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:47 am

    RT has also objectively failed to show us Russia's natural beauty, cultural diversity, and traditions in each region. It's the biggest country in the world and the melting pot of different ethno-religious groups. So, even with a regular weekly documentary series, it would take more than 2 years to cover each corner of this country.
     
    Even the Pacific Coastline alone extends more than 4,500 kilometres. Russia has almost all types of climate, excluding the tropics, but I think they have temperate rain forests in some areas of the Pacific coast. They also have small bamboo forests in the Far East, just like Japan, which is really amazing.
     
    Imagine if RT had made documentaries like these instead of only focusing too much on domestic US politics.
     





     
    People's perceptions change if you can show them your softer sides, because people are largely emotional beings. That's why countries like Japan and Korea are largely viewed positively, despite both of them being small, boring, homogeneous-racist countries with no cultural or ethnic diversity. I mean, South Koreans literally look like clones of each other walking on the street.
    The NHK media corporation of Japan has published a huge amount of high quality documentaries on the Japanese countryside and Japanese rural lifestyle for the world to see. It's crazy considering how tiny Japan is, even compared to the Himalayan states in India, in terms of population, geographic diversity, ethno-cultural diversity, religion, and language diversity. 

    At this point, RT English has become an alt-media platform for the Murican right-wingers paid by Russian taxpayers for nothing.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:58 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Hey, it's her money

    I ain't seeing anyone asking it back or calling the cops

    Sure, it's her money. But how did she get it ? When the majority of working people, even in developed countries, struggle painfully to just barely get a surviving income and some dude are able to spent billions without any worries then it is natural people will ask "what happened".

    Fact is fact that in most of the case the rich get rich not because they have superior genes than others, even if they do it legally. For example, billionaires in UK. France, USA... have been getting rich legally because the law are dumping wages down and allow them to exploit cheap labours.

    Not to mention that spending lavishly in the time most of their fellows are living in hell is the utmost expression of selfishness.

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    Post  bandit6 Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:13 am

    Seems like the Russian army is really getting hammered by cluster munitions, why are they letting their soldiers die and get injured? Why not respond with chemical weapons?

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:20 am

    Low and low flying drones will be harder to detect by radar. They will be able to maneuver more easily in complex terrain, such as urban areas, mountains or valleys. This will allow them to reach targets that are otherwise inaccessible or difficult to hit by conventional weapons.

    Flying very low has its dangers too and a flight at very low altitude over a great distance would be tiring for a "pilot" and enemy forces on the flight plan could hear the drone and alert other people to its existence and its progress so troops in the area can be ready to shoot at the drone with small arms fire...

    Mast mounted sensors should be able to detect low flying threats and EW equipment should work no matter what altitude it operates at.

    Drones are a problem but not impossible problem.

    The hardest to detect will be very small and relatively short ranged and not carry a large payload.

    As they get bigger it becomes not so hard to deal with them.

    Maybe a housing project for poor Americans

    There is no money for that.

    Naaah.
    The whole narrative is stupid, that is my point. Talking heads function is to talk, no matter how dumb. Sometimes the level of absurd produced at the Russian TV equals Ukro one. Some cretino jumped out with "Suwalki Gap" because it is not a new idea. It was brought to light in the mid 90s, so the gu is only 30 years behind with his phantasmagoria.

    I think perhaps it might be like the talk of using nukes... they are thrashing around looking for a button to push that the US would even care about,  and nukes or an escalation that leads to HATO fighting Russian troops would be the two obvious ones I would suggest... not that they actually want to go there but it starts similar talk in the west and when they look at their economies and the states of their military forces they might start to think enough is enough and maybe talking about some sort of peace is needed and if Kiev says no then stop the money and weapons and they will have no choice.

    The west and Kiev are the only ones that can stop this now because Russia really has no choice... if they freeze the battlefield now or even withdraw they know Russian friendly people are going to get murdered and in 5 years time Kiev is going to try to take back more territory and it all starts again... with Kiev in a much better position.

    And as a seventh and final condition, the grain deal itself “must recover its initial humanitarian nature” and serve to alleviate food issues in developing countries rather than making rich countries even richer.

    The EU will never agree to that... this deal was getting pig feed to the EU, they couldn't give a shit about Africa or the rest of the world starving.

    This is just to make the west look bad...

    In response, the Ukrainian Defense Ministry accused Moscow of turning the Black Sea into a “danger zone,” issuing a similar warning to all vessels in the area bound for Russia.

    Impressive talk from a country with no navy left.

    This is getting annoying, Russia needs to intensify its counter saboteur efforts and make punishment more severe for everyone that is caught

    Not worth getting upset about... if they have any brains they will have an enormous number of arms and weapon and fuel caches around the place, so losing one or two is no big deal for Russia. For the Ukraine however it is a bigger deal... especially the closer it is to the Polish border where they are larger and more flammable... Kiev really can't afford to lose any weapons or ammo, but Russia is in a much better position. As long as no one gets killed in Russia with these depots it is not a huge deal.

    Scholz has basically said Turkish EU membership is deep freeze due to Turkish human rights and other issues

    And Anna ball basher had some things to say too... Turkey thought they could switch to the wests side and get into the EU and get their F-16s delivered and change their currency to the Euro maybe to fix their financial problems, but it is not going to happen any time soon.


    More is to come as long as Russia is handling the traitors with kid gloves. In Putin's Russia, traitors are treated like petty criminals, and so the traitors aren't afraid of being traitors.

    Most of the traitors think the all powerful US will save them and if they succeed they will get a position of power in the new US puppet state, but they will be used and discarded... because they are Russian.

    Will be a very useful missile. The stealth of the S-70 aircraft will outweigh its speed drawback, giving it a great advantage as a weapon.

    Actually there was talk of the Kh-31 replacement being fully able to hit aircraft as well. The anti radar version of the Kh-31 is reportedly able to track and engage AWACS platforms in flight, but I would think the anti ship model with a built in MMW radar would also be able to detect large aircraft like inflight refuelling aircraft and AWACS aircraft and transport planes and JSTARS etc and could be used in the air to air role.

    Swapping the ramjet with a scramjet should massively increase flight speed and therefore also flight range... making it three times faster with the fuel likely to burn for about the same amount of time should on its own reflect a range increase to perhaps 700-800km at mach 9 or so.

    Giving it an AESA ARH seeker that can be used actively to scan for targets in the air and on the ground, but also to listen and track and hit radar emitting platforms would be rather useful too.

    But it is a different missile constructed for a reason. Nothing to do with Kinzhal.

    Yes, 600 to 800kg most likely compared with Kinzhal which is about 3.8 tons (the same weight as the ground launched Iskander).

    Waiting for the strategic hypersonic missile fitting inside the weapons bay(s) of the Tu-160...

    That 11 metre long two stage missile with 11,000km range sounds interesting... GZUR II was the designation given.

    You gonna trust the FED?

    Profeteering isnt the only factor here, the inflation is real, no matter how hard the goverment tries to hide it.

    Its not just "The Evil Rich Bourgeoisie".

    So you are suggesting the price increases are only inflation and not theft?

    Profiteering and theft are the MAIN thing and inflation is the excuse.

    And the inflation is because of Putin and his invasion of Ukraine and nothing else... no US banks are to blame and no over borrowing or decades of bad fiscal behaviour in the west in general.

    They’re all corrupt. That‘s the reality…That’s why it’s smart not to kiss any elite’s ass…

    Hahahaha, yeah, we keep hearing Putin is a billionaire and his family are all loaded... they have to be because the Clintons and the Bushes and the Bidens and the Trumps are rich... on and off...


    Yeah right then you proceed to posting NATZO Propaganda Bullocks lol

    Good post which I agree with except the last line where you just went too far...  

    The corruption smear on Putin is precisely because he is not corrupt. He is immune to NATzO influence which relies on corruption. The US is
    the global locus of corruption and uses its fiat confetti to buy off every crook on the planet. This includes the "elites" of Europe and clowns
    like Navalny.

    Yeah, the billions he was supposed to have stashed in the west would have been the first things they seized, but they didn't and couldn't because such things don't exist.

    Ironically they seized a lot of properties and yachts from many opponents of Putin, so punishing them is actually good for Russia because they earned their money in Russia and are spending it overseas...

    Naturally, but it's a different situation

    Different because it is made up.

    Seems like the Russian army is really getting hammered by cluster munitions, why are they letting their soldiers die and get injured? Why not respond with chemical weapons?

    I rather doubt it... most would be shot down, but either way cluster munitions are ideal for stopping attacks and are not so good against defensive positions so it is actually the Ukraine that will suffer their introduction of such ordinance because now Russia is free to massacre the Orcs wholesale.

    If you look at the news feeds no matter how many the orcs attack with a quarter often are able to make it back to their start lines, but if Russia starts using cluster munitions that number will drop to none.

    No need for chemical weapons.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:28 am

    GarryB wrote:
    You gonna trust the FED?

    Profeteering isnt the only factor here, the inflation is real, no matter how hard the goverment tries to hide it.

    Its not just "The Evil Rich Bourgeoisie".

    So you are suggesting the price increases are only inflation and not theft?

    Profiteering and theft are the MAIN thing and inflation is the excuse.

    And the inflation is because of Putin and his invasion of Ukraine and nothing else... no US banks are to blame and no over borrowing or decades of bad fiscal behaviour in the west in general.

    It is off-topic but I trust the IMF.

    Reason: it is unlikely for the bourgeioise to fabricate the data in order to bring harms to them. When they are telling things bad to them it usually means that they have no choice but to admit it.
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    https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/06/26/europes-inflation-outlook-depends-on-how-corporate-profits-absorb-wage-gains?s=09&fbclid=IwAR3ZfiRj-0BLzlgHg9VKg2H9Nf90NfCi26GXjg-wO6T7I0oJ8goCroLhSo4

    Rising corporate profits account for almost half the increase in Europe’s inflation over the past two years as companies increased prices by more than spiking costs of imported energy. Now that workers are pushing for pay rises to recoup lost purchasing power, companies may have to accept a smaller profit share if inflation is to remain on track to reach the European Central Bank’s 2-percent target in 2025, as projected in our most recent World Economic Outlook.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:44 am

    Sprut-B wrote:RT has also objectively failed to show us Russia's natural beauty, cultural diversity, and traditions in each region. It's the biggest country in the world and the melting pot of different ethno-religious groups. So, even with a regular weekly documentary series, it would take more than 2 years to cover each corner of this country.
     
    Even the Pacific Coastline alone extends more than 4,500 kilometres. Russia has almost all types of climate, excluding the tropics, but I think they have temperate rain forests in some areas of the Pacific coast. They also have small bamboo forests in the Far East, just like Japan, which is really amazing.
     
    Imagine if RT had made documentaries like these instead of only focusing too much on domestic US politics.
     
    People's perceptions change if you can show them your softer sides, because people are largely emotional beings. That's why countries like Japan and Korea are largely viewed positively, despite both of them being small, boring, homogeneous-racist countries with no cultural or ethnic diversity. I mean, South Koreans literally look like clones of each other walking on the street.
    The NHK media corporation of Japan has published a huge amount of high quality documentaries on the Japanese countryside and Japanese rural lifestyle for the world to see. It's crazy considering how tiny Japan is, even compared to the Himalayan states in India, in terms of population, geographic diversity, ethno-cultural diversity, religion, and language diversity. 

    At this point, RT English has become an alt-media platform for the Murican right-wingers paid by Russian taxpayers for nothing.

    Back 10 years or so ago RT was exactly doing a documentary series on Russia's different regions and unique areas, travelling experiences and so on. A very well made series in fact, went on for some episodes. Dunno if that turned into something else or if it's still hosted somewhere. But can't comment on how RT's covering Russia now as I very seldom have cause to go on there, and certainly its YouTube channels were taken down with the start of the SMO.

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:47 am

    bandit6 wrote:Seems like the Russian army is really getting hammered by cluster munitions, why are they letting their soldiers die and get injured? Why not respond with chemical weapons?

    Who told you they're getting hammered?

    The Ukros have launched a cluster warhead at a village in the Belgorod region injuring some civilians (don't know if any were killed), and also injured a bunch of Russian journalists in the Donbass in another strike, killing 1.

    But as for strikes against the Russian military I haven't heard about that yet. The cluster warheads shouldn't be any more difficult to take down than any other HIMARS or Smerch or whatever munition; they'll be launched by one of those types of systems.

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    Post  bandit6 Sun Jul 23, 2023 12:26 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    bandit6 wrote:Seems like the Russian army is really getting hammered by cluster munitions, why are they letting their soldiers die and get injured? Why not respond with chemical weapons?

    Who told you they're getting hammered?

    The Ukros have launched a cluster warhead at a village in the Belgorod region injuring some civilians (don't know if any were killed), and also injured a bunch of Russian journalists in the Donbass in another strike, killing 1.

    But as for strikes against the Russian military I haven't heard about that yet. The cluster warheads shouldn't be any more difficult to take down than any other HIMARS or Smerch or whatever munition; they'll be launched by one of those types of systems.

    The part in this video shows them getting nailed pretty good. 3:00

    https://youtu.be/jcQwg0RFT_c

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