Russian special military operation in Ukraine #46

Russia can repurpose todays APS to combat hemispherical threats using IR/RF and high number of rounds to combat HEAT and drones. Tor could be reimagined as a 32 cell micro SAM launcher using its 8 cells in 4 sub-caliber cells to fire small iron dome type projectiles. Marry the self contained and highly mobile nature of Russian AD systems to the tiny size of XS iron dome equivalents

Drones are being a pain in the ass based on numbers and cost curve. To defeat that vector, the response has to be equally good on numbers and cost, not Pantsir, and Tor blazing away expensive rounds on $3k DJI quadcopters or $20k turkish drones.

Arrow wrote:CV 90

https://m.vk.com/video-206639135_456272834

Mikael Valtersson
@MikaelValterss1
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NEWS UPDATE CAPTURED WESTERN WEAPONS CV9040 MORNING JULY 30
I'm back and write a couple of longer tweets later today, but now, just a short update of personal interest. A first swedish CV9040 IFV has been captured by the RuAF on the Kreminna-Svatove front.

Sweden delivered 50 CV9040 IFV:s to Ukraine earlier this summer. They seem to be in use on the Kreminna-Svatove front. Two CV9040:s has already been destroyed earlier and this was the third lost.

In video 2 you see when two CV9040 counterattack and the first one is hit. Allegedly the commander of the vehicle was killed and the rest of the crew abandoned it. Later on Russian combat engineers retrieved the vehicle.

As a former officer from Sweden, partly working with the CV9040 SPAAG, it's good to hear commentators say it's the most advanced IFV in the world. But it's still a IFV and easily destroyed by AT-weapons.

Allegedly UkrAF has got the most modern CV9040 C variant. It has better protection, laser orange finders and good air conditioning. But the bulky upgrades reduce the capacity to transport soldiers from 8 to 6 men.


Non VK version of video

Weeb Union
@WeebUnionWar
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I gotta say after weeks of fighting over staromayorske and Ukraine finally capturing it I didn't expect the Russians to counterattack, it has lost its purpose once Ukraine took it.

However it seems that with the weeks of fighting the village was reduced to rubble and ruins with that the Russians thought of it as an opportunity to inflict casualties on the Ukrainians stationed within the village.

This is why we see them taking the surrounding hills rather than entering the village itself.

kvs wrote:Anyone expecting Musk to institute fairness on this platform is detached from reality.   Musk is one of the elite and serves their agenda.   Dialing down or up
the woke BS is token irrelevance.  

Musk hiring a WEF executive to run Twitter doesn't inspire confidence for sure.

laser orange finders 

Those Swedes love oranges. 

franco wrote:

kvs wrote:Anyone expecting Musk to institute fairness on this platform is detached from reality.   Musk is one of the elite and serves their agenda.   Dialing down or up
the woke BS is token irrelevance.  

Musk hiring a WEF executive to run Twitter doesn't inspire confidence for sure.

Twitter eats money like few other systems. Musk's finances, although large are limited, his number one priority is getting revenue and that is why that women was employed.

The rain strikes again

Looking at the guy in the middle, there are no food shortages, at least behind the frontlines. 

Hole wrote:
Looking at the guy in the middle, there are no food shortages, at least behind the frontlines. 

Poor fat bastard Just last week he was safe at home snug as a bug in a rug

Daniil Medvedev said that Russia should use nuclear weapons in case the Ukrainians succeed in the future. I don't know why you think of it as the last option. Russia must accompany the offensive with the use of tactical nuclear weapons. The Ukrainian defeat would be total and the psychological impact on the West would be terrible. Today Russia is in a trench war, waiting to see who runs out first. Ukraine with Western resources is not going to run out. The only hope is that Trump wins the elections and that he sentences the Jewish regime in Ukraine. But I doubt that Trump can win against the internal state that the United States runs. Putin must stop doubting and use those weapons that will guarantee him total victory and the West's fear of annihilation.
Putin is practically martial arts. His philosophy of war is defense and precaution. First strike does not exist in that philosophy. The problem is how long you are going to endure in front of the aggression. Ukraine will continue to have resources as long as the United States is run by globalist democrats.

kvs wrote:Anyone expecting Musk to institute fairness on this platform is detached from reality.   Musk is one of the elite and serves their agenda.   Dialing down or up
the woke BS is token irrelevance.  

Munsk is part of the elite, but it is a rebellious elite. It's like the equivalent of Trump in politics. They are unpredictable types. They do not follow the globalist manual and that exasperates the system

Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (30 July 2023)

The AFU continued unsuccessful attempts at offensive actions in South Donetsk, Krasny Liman and Donetsk directions.

In Donetsk direction, 7 enemy attacks have been successfully repelled by Yug Group of Forces close to Klescheevka, Andreevka and Krasnogorovka DPR.

AFU units have been hit near Druzhba, Berdychi, Kleshcheevka, Avdeevka, Krasnoye and Pobeda DPR.

1 ammunition depot of the AFU 124th Territorial Defence Brigade has been destroyed near Dzerzhinsk DPR.

The enemy losses were up to 190 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 4 motor vehicles, 2 U.S.-manufactured M777 artillery systems, as well as Msta-B and D-20 howitzers.

In South Donetsk and Zaporozhye directions, units of the Vostok Group of Forces repelled 1 enemy attack close to Uspenovka (Zaporozhye).

AFU manpower and hardware concentration areas have been hit close to Zherebyanki, Novodanilovka, Veseloye and north of Rabotino (Zaporozhye).

The actions of 1 SRG have been disrupted close to Charivnoye (Zaporozhye).

The enemy losses were up to 250 servicemen, 1 tank, 3 AFVs, 4 motor vehicles, as well as howitzers: Msta-B and D-20.

In Krasny Liman direction, as a result of actions by Tsentr Group of Forces, 3 enemy attacks have been successfully repelled close to Kovalyovka LPR, as well as near Serebryansky forestry.

Enemy manpower and hardware concentration areas have been hit close to Torskoye, Serebryanka, Grigorovka DPR, Chervonaya Dibrova, Nevskoye, and west of Novovodyanoye LPR.

The enemy losses were up to 140 servicemen, 2 AFVs, 3 motor vehicles, as well as 1 D-30 howitzer.

In Kupyansk direction, assault detachments of the Zapad Group of Forces continued offensive operations forward Novosyolovskoye LPR and advanced 300 metres into the depth of the enemy defence.

AFU units have been hit near Timkovka, Peschanoye, Olshana, and Novomlynsk (Kharkov), and Stelmakhovka, Novosyolovskoye and Artyomovka LPR.

1 ammunition depot of the AFU 125th Brigade of the Territorial Defence of Ukraine has been destroyed near Izbitskoye (Kharkov).

The enemy losses were up to 80 servicemen, 4 motor vehicles, as well as 1 Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system and 1 D-30 howitzer.

In Kherson direction, the enemy losses were up to 65 servicemen and 5 motor vehicles.

Operational-Tactical and Army aviation, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have neutralised 102 AFU artillery units at their firing positions, manpower and hardware in 108 areas.

In addition, a retraining centre and a storage, maintenance and repair point of AFU drones have been destroyed near Mogilyovka (Dnepropetrovsk).

1 command post of the 100th Territorial Defence Brigade has been hit close to Yampol DPR.

Fighter Aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces has shot down 1 Mi-8 helicopter of Ukrainian Air Force near Vozdvizhenka DPR.

Air defence facilities have shot down 44 UAVs close to Tavolzhanka (Kharkov), Zaliman, Rubezhnoye, Kremennaya, Raigorodka LPR, Sladkoye, Staromikhailovka DPR, Shevchenkovo, Dolinka, Trudovoye, Novopokrovka, Mirnoye (Zaporozhye), Staraya Zburyevka and Novaya Kakhovka (Kherson).

@Slavyangrad

Better get the old telephone wire and carrier pigeons back into action.

But more importantly, all this is giving the Russians a huge head start on how to work an EW saturated war. Some of the smarter officers in NATO must be spitting blood at these latest systems being countered before they could use them themselves.

NabrezhnyeIntel:

The enemy is currently reporting that the nationwide "Starlink" terminal is under attack by electronic warfare of the Russian Armed Forces.

The entire structure of the Ukrainian Armed Forces communication relies on this system, and without it, they are unable to even move an inch, and their structure will become paralyzed. Communication will become non-existent.

Previously, Elon Musk refused to expand the Starlink Program in Ukraine. What can I say? This development was forseeable.

#source  

@Slavyangrad

Zlatti71
@djuric_zlatko
RF Armed Forces have learned to jam Starlinks - Ukronazi Madyar

The commander of the tactical air reconnaissance group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Robert Brovdi (call sign "Madyar"), said that the Russian army is testing and preparing for industrial production systems that can block the operation of the Starlink system.

“A front without a Starlink is significantly more difficult than a front without an F-16. Blind and deaf, ”admitted the militant.

Our fighters, even without special systems, successfully destroyed the Starlink antennas in the NVO zone, violating the control and communication system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

JohninMK wrote:Better get the old telephone wire and carrier pigeons back into action.

But more importantly, all this is giving the Russians a huge head start on how to work an EW saturated war. Some of the smarter officers in NATO must be spitting blood at these latest systems being countered before they could use them themselves.

NabrezhnyeIntel:

The enemy is currently reporting that the nationwide "Starlink" terminal is under attack by electronic warfare of the Russian Armed Forces.

The entire structure of the Ukrainian Armed Forces communication relies on this system, and without it, they are unable to even move an inch, and their structure will become paralyzed. Communication will become non-existent.

Previously, Elon Musk refused to expand the Starlink Program in Ukraine. What can I say? This development was forseeable.

#source  

@Slavyangrad

Zlatti71
@djuric_zlatko
RF Armed Forces have learned to jam Starlinks - Ukronazi Madyar

The commander of the tactical air reconnaissance group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Robert Brovdi (call sign "Madyar"), said that the Russian army is testing and preparing for industrial production systems that can block the operation of the Starlink system.

“A front without a Starlink is significantly more difficult than a front without an F-16. Blind and deaf, ”admitted the militant.

Our fighters, even without special systems, successfully destroyed the Starlink antennas in the NVO zone, violating the control and communication system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Russia has the best hackers in the world. In addition to jamming them, you should find a way to infiltrate the signals from those satellites and steal information from the enemy.

I believe that Youtube have now removed Scott Ritter's 2 part documentary on Zelinsky. These are the Rumble links.

https://rumble.com/v2z739a-agent-zelensky.html

https://rumble.com/v30nd8w-a-scott-ritter-investigation-agent-zelensky-part-2.html

For the propaganda folks. Who knows if there's any truth it to it. But it's good propaganda. & they'd do this 

JohninMK wrote:I believe that Youtube have now removed Scott Ritter's 2 part documentary on Zelinsky. These are the Rumble links.

https://rumble.com/v2z739a-agent-zelensky.html

https://rumble.com/v30nd8w-a-scott-ritter-investigation-agent-zelensky-part-2.html

Was good except for the annoying sinister loud music.

Drones are being a pain in the ass based on numbers and cost curve. To defeat that vector, the response has to be equally good on numbers and cost, not Pantsir, and Tor blazing away expensive rounds on $3k DJI quadcopters or $20k turkish drones.

Honestly I think 2S38 might be a big step in the right direction, and another version on a light mobile platform with a 30mm cannon and air burst shells could further improve performance.

Even some sort of 10 gauge shotgun solution might be a part of it because in the videos we see the suicide drones often fly very low and hug the ground and hit the targets at very shallow angles so only are visible for the last few seconds of flight, so an APS system with fixed munitions able to fire in specific directions might be the solution... a 10 gauge shotgun would be interesting but just like using machine guns or cannon the response time from rest to when the vehicle is attacked and the system needs to respond is probably not great enough to allow a gun to be elevated and aimed to hit the incoming target without better warning.

Of course when Russia suicide drones attack there is normally another drone that found the target and monitored it during the attack so taking down that drone will reduce its chances of success.

A 10 gauge shotgun would be interesting because currently countries are looking at shotguns in the interests of making them mini grenade launchers and a 10 gauge has more internal volume than a 12 gauge, meaning more projectiles and heavier payloads in the larger calibre weapon.

With number 2 or 3 shot a 10 gauge shell would be rather effective against drones at relatively close ranges... especially if multiple shots can be fired.

Most videos of suicide drone attacks the target doesn't even know it is under attack till the drone is 30-40m away... some don't realise till the drone impacts their vehicle.

A 10 gauge shotgun would be useful in trench fighting and breaking door hinges and with solid slugs could damage civilian vehicles at any distance you could hit them at.

They already have a 12 gauge shotgun based on the AK design called Saiga:

A model scaled up for 10 gauge shouldn't be too hard.

Air burst 30mm and 57mm shells with IIR and lidar sensors and other air defence equipment should deal with most drones, and jammers and other systems would also deal with a large number of commercial drones too.

Daniil Medvedev said that Russia should use nuclear weapons in case the Ukrainians succeed in the future. I don't know why you think of it as the last option.

Because the west is self destructing... if Russia used a nuclear weapon they might see this as a chance to do the same to try to force a stalemate and get Putin to the negotiation table.

The longer this conflict goes on the more territory Russia will liberate the better all round...

I don't think Musk is a Russia hating neocon. But considering his position, he cannot pull an "Oliver Stone" even if he feels that way.

Musk is interested in success and making money and right now Russia seems to be better at that than the west is, and Russias model seems to be more positive for the world as a whole than the western colonial model...

The biggest issue with those drones is that they are extremely hard to spot.
Most of them go on battery, which means they are noiseless.
Made of radar transparent plastic, the only part that can be spotted on the radar is the round suspended under ...
Only a few specialized radars can do that ...
A few days ago I watched of how they inspected a homemade drone. It was made of polyurethane foam. All of it. The propeller was made of plastic. Even steering surfaces were made of this PUR material, and all the executive/motoric parts were made of string ... What was visible on a radar, was the battery, and nose-mounted camera. That's all.

Actually drones even electric ones make huge noise. But when you have a tank nearby you won't hear them for sure.

Best way to deal with them is shotguns... you know the ones seen in movies where they shoot at plates in the air. They need to give at least one light shot gun per squad or group of soldiers working togather.

EW is also another good tool because those drones are civilian drones so you know easily what frequencies and what power you need to jamm them.

But one thing is sure, they change the battlefield and you can't have 0 losses when you face them. They can easily destroy multimillion dollar equipement.