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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
SeigSoloyvov- Posts : 3918
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
SeigSoloyvov Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:07 pm
I don't have 100 coins yet :/
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When one watches Mercouris' videos one sees the one-note-Johnny west with its "human wave" attacks by Russia retardation.
Really now? Where are these human wave attacks? Where is all the dead Russian meat strewn on the front? You mean to
tell me that not a single f*cking Ukr cell phone video exists of this?
The mental deficiency of western "experts" and fanbois is pure cringe. WTF would Russian forces squander men in human wave
attacks when they have an overwhelming superiority in artillery, air power, missile power and even drone power? Russian officers
are such imbeciles that they use men as if they did not have these weapons just for the Hell of it? Why? To give NATzO wankers something
to fap to?
The usual western schizophrenia. Russians are weak and stupid, but Russians are an existential threat. And don't start with nuke drivel.
Since the NATzO west is populated by intellectual giants with stellar military prowess, they should be able to neutralize Russia's nukes
without any effort, right?
Really now? Where are these human wave attacks? Where is all the dead Russian meat strewn on the front? You mean to
tell me that not a single f*cking Ukr cell phone video exists of this?
The mental deficiency of western "experts" and fanbois is pure cringe. WTF would Russian forces squander men in human wave
attacks when they have an overwhelming superiority in artillery, air power, missile power and even drone power? Russian officers
are such imbeciles that they use men as if they did not have these weapons just for the Hell of it? Why? To give NATzO wankers something
to fap to?
The usual western schizophrenia. Russians are weak and stupid, but Russians are an existential threat. And don't start with nuke drivel.
Since the NATzO west is populated by intellectual giants with stellar military prowess, they should be able to neutralize Russia's nukes
without any effort, right?
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ALAMO- Posts : 7518
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What is the point of discussing a guy that broadcasts from his closet? 
Mir- Posts : 3835
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Apparently this Bradley and it's mate ran into a Terminator 
There is also some scrap metal for sale in Iraq
There is also some scrap metal for sale in Iraq
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ALAMO- Posts : 7518
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Mir wrote:
There is also some scrap metal for sale in Iraq
Jokes aside, it is not a big deal that hardware gets broken. It was designed this way, to save lives.
But first, M2 is one of the last cases to start arguing, as it is objectively speaking crappy design.
It is underarmored for its size.
It is underarmed.
It has serious issues with floating.
It is enormously huge.
It emits a huge IR signature.
And is armed with an outdated cannon combined with a pathetic ATGM.
No idea if you are aware of the fact, that TOW can't be guided on the move
M2 is sentenced to stay still while using it.
While being targeted by Russkie missiles that are THREE TIMES FASTER in some cases, and can be guided on moving!!!
A sad try to use it as an example of "Ubermanschen technology" leaves no doubt that the author is dumb, because have not a single clue about opforce
SeigSoloyvov wrote:
I don't have 100 coins yet :/
You are still seriously overpaid, considering the outcome.
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billybatts91 wrote:This is hopefully not true...
https://archive.ph/zrLsq
Billy, given earlier postings about Russian diplomats landing in Washington there may be some sort of talks because that is what responsible and intelligent people do. They talk peace. Russia has been pretty consistent in what it would require for the war to end. Namely, demilitarized and denazified Ukrainian state committed to neutrality more or less permanently to end. Sadly, the west, the real aggressor in this thing, is still ignoring Russia and sadly they are committed to their flights of fancy of anything from Ukraine magically taking back Donbass and Crimea to their ultimate aim, namely a "decolonized" Russia where all the non Russian ethnicities form small independent puppet states controlled by Washington, London, and the west so their men can be enslaved, their women trafficked, and their resources plundered by Western industrialists (something the neocons and shit libs in Washington have dreamed about for decades).
So really, not being true? Well, no its not true. As seen above its at best a mischaracterization. I mean seriously, when is the last time a Ukrainian or western source has actually told the truth about this tragedy?
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
SeigSoloyvov Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:39 pm
If you think the west cannot be trusted which generally everyone on this forum does.
Why would you make a deal? why would you place your entire wager on signing a piece of paper?.
After a certain point you cannot blame others for fucking you, you can only blame yourself.
Why would you make a deal? why would you place your entire wager on signing a piece of paper?.
After a certain point you cannot blame others for fucking you, you can only blame yourself.
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Go respawn or something
Every time I watch one of his videos my brain hurts.When one watches Mercouris' videos
More ticks than a tick farm.
Anyway... (his beloved phrase in the last weeks)
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:If you think the west cannot be trusted which generally everyone on this forum does.
Why would you make a deal? why would you place your entire wager on signing a piece of paper?.
After a certain point you cannot blame others for fucking you, you can only blame yourself.
Talking does not mean deal. Talking means diplomacy. Russia is holding an olive branch in one hand and a machine gun in the other. They are asking Washington what does it want for Ukraine. Peace and some semblance of statehood or Afghanistan/Libya/Syria/Iraq in Europe? Russia is basically saying its your decision. They know full well Washington won't see sense, but they are offering Washington an out.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
Walther von Oldenburg Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:19 pm
Any kind of Ukrainian neutrality is BS. Ukraine is not Switzerland which has a population actually devoted to neutrality. Ukraine has a population that is in significant part pro NATO and pro EU so any neutrality will be just a thinly veiled pro western stance.
As I said before, no end of hostilities until Russian troops are in Lvov. This problem needs to be solved once and for all.
As I said before, no end of hostilities until Russian troops are in Lvov. This problem needs to be solved once and for all.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
Arkanghelsk Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:37 pm
Bradley is too big, it gets knocked out miles behind the frontline before having a chance to even enter the fight
It's mounted infantry usually have to dismount more than 15km from the frontline because of drones
It's useless for a war
It's mounted infantry usually have to dismount more than 15km from the frontline because of drones
It's useless for a war
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:If you think the west cannot be trusted which generally everyone on this forum does.
Why would you make a deal? why would you place your entire wager on signing a piece of paper?.
After a certain point you cannot blame others for fucking you, you can only blame yourself.
Why do you think a deal would mean signing a paper and russians go back to Russia ?
A deal would be to stop fighting and giving any lands Russia asks with no more Ukrainian army. Nothing less. If Putin leves Ukraine with all those deads with no territorial gains he is dead. They will rather nuk Kiev than leave at this point.
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Talks ? With Jellinsky and co ? Better with Ukrainian non-Orc Brass and some more neutral mediator . They can still fight , while they talk . Better stop fighting , while talking . Helpful but not necessary . What , the Orcs will use opportunity to ship more weapons ? Well they are doing that already , through western border , war or no war . Partition is the best ( only ) solution . Other hypothetical solutions exist , but not practical or achievable for either side . The River is the best border . Viable living areas for both populations . Arms limitation is best for both sides , but not likely to succeed or be practical . Accept nukes on short fuse in Ukraine and Novo- Rossiya ! The denazification and disarmament will have to wait , but the killing and genocide and ethnic cleansing will stop .
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
SeigSoloyvov Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:03 pm
Isos wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:If you think the west cannot be trusted which generally everyone on this forum does.
Why would you make a deal? why would you place your entire wager on signing a piece of paper?.
After a certain point you cannot blame others for fucking you, you can only blame yourself.
Why do you think a deal would mean signing a paper and russians go back to Russia ?
A deal would be to stop fighting and giving any lands Russia asks with no more Ukrainian army. Nothing less. If Putin leves Ukraine with all those deads with no territorial gains he is dead. They will rather nuk Kiev than leave at this point.
Its pure fantasy to think Ukraine will ever de-arm for good, they will never.
SeigSoloyvov- Posts : 3918
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
SeigSoloyvov Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:04 pm
Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Any kind of Ukrainian neutrality is BS. Ukraine is not Switzerland which has a population actually devoted to neutrality. Ukraine has a population that is in significant part pro NATO and pro EU so any neutrality will be just a thinly veiled pro western stance.
As I said before, no end of hostilities until Russian troops are in Lvov. This problem needs to be solved once and for all.
That is the only realistic way to handle this but lets see what the russians do.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
PapaDragon Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:32 am
VARGR198 wrote:
Excellent, all countries should do this with both Ukrainian and Russian deserters and their families too
I only wish Serbia was this smart
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
PapaDragon Sun Dec 24, 2023 12:34 am
Arkanghelsk wrote:Bradley is too big, it gets knocked out miles behind the frontline before having a chance to even enter the fight
It's mounted infantry usually have to dismount more than 15km from the frontline because of drones
It's useless for a war
It's ripping BMPs to shreds, look like it's more than useful for war
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Rodion_Romanovic wrote:kvs wrote:The spasm about the Bradley in this thread highlights the wonder waffle derangement syndrome in the west. We saw this over the last two years as
one magic NATzO system after another was supposed to change the game. But all of them were nothing burgers. The Bradley is just another
nothing burger and no amount of emotional projection will change this.
But I am sure that it will be the fault of Ukrians that the NATzO garbage they received did not live up to the fanboi fantasy.
I am looking forward to the Ukrainian pilots start flying combat missions on F-16
It would be even better if a couple of them would be shot down by Mig-35 or Mig29-SMT.... we already know that Su-30 and Su-35 can do it.
It would help mig-35 sales :p
at least 15 F-16s are already operating in Ukraine, seemingly they shot down a couple of Russian aircraft, at the same time Russia is making advances all along the front line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Obta9IiQ28
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:ALAMO wrote:Someone has lost his window of opportunity to shut the fuk up to hinder the fact of being dumb
Still can't figure id that was dumb or dumber account operator
Videos don't lie, I find the way your reaction hilarious, honestly, it's a riot when a little truth sets you fanboys off so much.
The only skin in the game is your ego. And that's no different than taking a side. Your analysis isn't any more objective than someone who's taken a side.
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So what is the proof that F-16's shot down anything ? I guess whenever a Russian aircraft goes down , it will be called an F-16 kill ? It wouldn't really surprise me i guess. Russia is overdue for an embarrassment. It seems to happen every 2-3 months. And even if it happened, it could be covered up. But Rybar and Fighter Bomber make sure nothing ever gets covered up. And will confirm it as soon as they can. This is why I can hardly stand watching this war. There's no propaganda on one side and the most hyperbolic propaganda machine ever on the other side.
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One has to be extremely retarded on the downsyndrom level in order to believe F-16's are flying in Ukraine and shot anything down.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #51
Arkanghelsk Sun Dec 24, 2023 4:13 am
PapaDragon wrote:
It's ripping BMPs to shreds, look like it's more than useful for war
It's not even making it to the frontline drones are taking it out before they make it to the drop points
They can't be evacuated out of the battle zone, and they can't be repaired or supplied in the quantity needed for real war
Actually soviet Bmp-1 are more useful for a real war, and thats why Ukraine relies overwhelmingly on it, if it had to rely on western supplied IFV, it would have lost in 2022
Bradley and other western weapons are not built for proper war
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Arsenic wrote:The Patriot system would have shot down 3 s-34 today ?
The same 140% percent interception rate "great success" crowd uttered this and it magically became reality through "repeat until true" scheme.
So far, the evidence points to one Su-34 lost with one pilot rescued.
The way this overclaim has been promoted in the Ukronazi sphere is indicative on how this realm works, as through sheer pavlovian resonance. They maintain the public interest on the war even after having seemingly been heavily beaten by reality, through hype announcements that nullify any of the less sugary elements. Last week it was the German PAC-3, yesterday the downed "3 Su-34s", today its the F-16s by Netherlands and so on.
Even the said bad news by Western press seem to be aimed not merely at illustrating the reality, but mainly at sensibilizing the politicians and the gullible public that the hour is harsh therefore it is the time for sacrifices. Thus cynical politicians can claim tax hikes, or even reach wartime mobilization.
Western minds work with marketing in mind, it is fascinating as well as pathetic to watch but its also highly devious, and therefore one should never place much faith can be placed on it.
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