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    Post  JohninMK Sun May 26, 2024 10:43 am

    Two Majors Summary for the Morning of 26 May 2024; Published at 09:08

    The Past Week

    The past week was marked by notable detentions of high-ranking military officials of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Lieutenant General Shamarin, the MoD's chief liaison officer and deputy chief of the General Staff, and Verteletsky, the head of the directorate of the MoD's Department for the State Defence Order, were among those arrested. Additionally, Lieutenant General Akhmedov, commander of the 20th Army, who has been described as a personnel liability, was also detained. The arrest of the former commander of the 58th Army, General Popov, caused further controversy, especially as he remained in custody despite a petition by the Investigative Committee of Russia to mitigate the measure of restraint. The principle of "merits - separately, misdemeanours - separately" illustrates the approach towards even honored individuals.

    Political Implications

    The actions appear indicative and targeted, with skeptics suggesting a political motive. They call for a comprehensive audit of the entire MoD, although this could potentially paralyze the military apparatus. The scale of corruption was intuitively understood even before these arrests.

    Frontline Developments

    The Russian Army continues to hold the initiative. In the Kharkov direction, the fighting is becoming more positional. The enemy has reinforced from other parts of the front, which opens new promising directions for the Russian Armed Forces (RFAF).

    - In the Svatovo-Kupyansk direction, offensive actions have intensified. Ivanovka north of Kislovka has been liberated, with ongoing battles near Berestovoye and Stelmakhovka.
    - In the battle for Chasov Yar, troops are storming the eastern outskirts, squeezing the town from the north and south. Fighting is occurring in Kalinovka. To the south, the RFAF has occupied the ruins of Kleshcheyevka and Andreyevka.
    - In the Pokrovskoye direction, Arkhangelskoye on the Ocheretino ledge has been liberated, along with Umanskoye and Netaylovo to the south. In the South Donetsk direction, there are battles in Krasnogorovka and Paraskoviyevka, as well as on the Vremyevka ledge in Staromayorskoye and Urozhaynoye. On the Zaporozhye front, the "Rabotino Invasion" is being gradually eliminated through heavy battles. The Kherson direction is marked by enemy statements about "withdrawal from Krynki" and actions on islands in the Dnieper floodplain.

    Enemy Actions

    The enemy is actively using NATO weapons in Crimea and launching terrorist strikes in the Belgorod and Kursk regions. They are deploying numerous aircraft-type UAVs over considerable distances, reaching as far as Tatarstan. In the Black Sea, the use of drone boats with projectile guides from MLRS on Kinburnskaya has been recorded, presenting new security threats to the Russian Black Sea coast.

    Current Situation

    Despite suffering heavy losses in personnel and facing problems with weapons and equipment (greatly exaggerated in the media), the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) are conducting organized defense, striking at Russian rear areas, and continuously mobilizing the population. The RFAF is likely to become more active in several directions: Kherson, Zaporozhye, Sumy, which will further stretch the enemy's forces and continue to weaken its military machine, depleting the resources replenished by NATO to prolong the conflict.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun May 26, 2024 11:51 am

    “The Russians simply razed our 3 lines of defense to the ground near Chashi Yar with controlled air bombs” - battalion commander of the 92nd brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces

    ▪ “Where our lines were very strongly fortified, the Russians used guided aerial bombs and simply razed these positions to the ground,” Y. Fidorenko, battalion commander of the 92nd Brigade, told the NYT and showed on the map where the KABs destroyed 3 lines of Ukrainian defense.
    ▪No one could withstand such shelling, the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffered losses and were forced to retreat.
    ▪Fidorenko added that the fighting in the East has never been so brutal.
    ❗Combat 92 is confident that the Russian Armed Forces will take the area around Chasov Yar within a few weeks. He considers it possible to hold the city only after receiving US aid. Now there is an acute shell hunger.
    ▪ “The guns fired only 2 shells a day, when they should have fired at least 30. Imagine a boxing match where there are equal boxers, but one of them can hit 1 time, and his opponent can hit 10 times.”
    ▪Drones have become the “last line of defense” for Clock Yar, but with their help they can only slow down the Russian advance, he added.
    - RVvoenkor

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    Post  Sujoy Sun May 26, 2024 12:00 pm

    GarryB wrote:The first test launch of the R-37 was from a MiG-31 at a target well beyond the radar range of the aircraft at the time, but target information was supplied by an Su-30 flying closer to the target. The distance covered by the missile for the intercept was 300km
    Though BUK and S-350 will be the Russian mainstay against ATACAMS and Storm Shadow, R-37M too can be used to intercept NATO's cruise missiles. Perhaps that's the reason why it has been deployed. NATO's AWACS are probably not the target of R 37M as they are operating from safe airspace given the presence of S-400.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun May 26, 2024 12:51 pm

    Vitaly Kuzmin published his pics from the recent exhibition of SMO trophies. thumbsup russia

    https://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Exhibition-of-SMO-trophies-in-Moscow

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    Post  Scorpius Sun May 26, 2024 1:15 pm

    https://t.me/boris_rozhin/124899

    The prisoner of war's confession that he is on active service in the French Foreign Legion, taking part in hostilities against Russia.

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    Post  ludovicense Sun May 26, 2024 1:33 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Vitaly Kuzmin published his pics from the recent exhibition of SMO trophies.   thumbsup  russia

    https://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Exhibition-of-SMO-trophies-in-Moscow

    How humiliating!.... They put Abrams burned like meat on the barbecue on purpose...

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    Post  JohninMK Sun May 26, 2024 1:51 pm

    Sujoy wrote: NATO's AWACS are probably not the target of R 37M as they are operating from safe airspace given the presence of S-400.

    Currently all NATO ancillary aircraft, tankers, ISR, transport etc are operating quite safely within the range of RuAF air and ground AA assets. This is called 'not being at war'.

    A side benefit to the Russians of this benign environment is that NATO C&C have got used to operating with a fill flow of data, much as the have been doing for the past 30+ years. In the event of a real war this would change to 'blind' mode that they may not have trained for.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun May 26, 2024 2:03 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Vitaly Kuzmin published his pics from the recent exhibition of SMO trophies.   thumbsup  russia

    https://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Exhibition-of-SMO-trophies-in-Moscow

    The exhibition has its moments of (unintended?) comedy Laughing - the awesome Saxon, world-leading cutting-edge UK miltech.  How lucky Russia is to have such an example of Western uber-wundervagon to learn from... Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun May 26, 2024 2:05 pm

    Um does someone have to point out something super fucking oblivious to you Garry? Not everyone thinks how you do, not everyone haves your views. The average Ukie hates the russians more then whomever you call Nazis

    Has a whole, the average ukie hasn't been terrorized by the Ukrainian government etc, There where some isolated incidents yeah and don't get me wrong I ain't saying they aren't corrupt has **** because they are.

    But when talking about how a population feels you need to consider the entire population not just a small parts view you agree with.

    yes I get they do grab people off the street but this is wartime and even in the current Ukie constition there is mandatory draft meaning you don't get a choice The russians did the same shit during WW2, they grabbed any man they could whether they wanted to go or not, when the sirvival of the state is at stake your choice to fight becomes no ones concern.

    and yeah its crazy to call putin a western plant, at the sametime he has made many mistakes and continues to do so when it comes to the war such has his refusal to go all out

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    Post  The-thing-next-door Sun May 26, 2024 2:30 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:Vitaly Kuzmin published his pics from the recent exhibition of SMO trophies.   thumbsup  russia

    https://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Exhibition-of-SMO-trophies-in-Moscow

    The exhibition has its moments of (unintended?) comedy Laughing - the awesome Saxon, world-leading cutting-edge UK miltech.  How lucky Russia is to have such an example of Western uber-wundervagon to learn from...   Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57 - Page 12 Saxon_10

    What is that? I looks like an interwar creation.
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    Post  GarryB Sun May 26, 2024 2:42 pm

    Um does someone have to point out something super fucking oblivious to you Garry? Not everyone thinks how you do, not everyone haves your views. The average Ukie hates the russians more then whomever you call Nazis

    (Will assume you mean obvious rather than oblivious... but it is not obvious so correct me if it wasn't a typo.)

    That is what I am saying... a lot of these Orcs don't want to be saved and Russia should not waste time and money and energy trying to save these ungrateful pieces of shit.

    Russia should create a buffer zone so orcs cannot target Russian territory, but what I suspect they are planning to do is when the Ukraine military collapses they will move in their forces to keep the peace and create order while referendums are organised and where necessary elections are held.

    The people in every region will get the choice of joining the Russian Federation or not... just because they choose to join the RF does not mean they will be accepted by the RF.

    While under martial law Russian troops will hunt down nazis and criminals they will have a decades worth of youtube videos and other information to track down criminals who will be tried and suitably sentenced... and no traded or sent to Turkey.

    Eventually I suspect there will be a few new regions of the Russian Federation and likely a land bridge to Moldova would be useful too, but the Ukrainians are free to choose their future as Russians or as anything they want to call their new neutral state.

    They can trade with Russia or they don't have to but they will ensure the rights and freedoms of all of their citizens or the Russian Army comes back and fucks them up again... that will be the wording they will use to make it clear.

    Has a whole, the average ukie hasn't been terrorized by the Ukrainian government etc, There where some isolated incidents yeah and don't get me wrong I ain't saying they aren't corrupt has **** because they are.

    Nobody should be held to account for the stupidity of their own government... Ukrainian or US or UK or French or German... if their voting public found out all the bullshit they get up to they would never vote for anyone again.

    I certainly don't agree with stupid kneejerk firearms law changes made here just after an immigrant shot and killed 51 in cold blood.

    But when talking about how a population feels you need to consider the entire population not just a small parts view you agree with.

    You claim they all hate Russia and Russians... well it takes a lot of effort to hate and after 3 years of fighting and now finding out most of the information about the war is propaganda and all this time they have not been winning... they have just been dying... and their hate will fade and they will just get tired of this conflict.

    Russia sorted out Chechnia, it can sort out the Ukraine... tell me about a single situation that the US has sorted out to the satisfaction of the locals?

    and yeah its crazy to call putin a western plant, at the sametime he has made many mistakes and continues to do so when it comes to the war such has his refusal to go all out

    That is the problem with those who criticise Putin because often it boils down to them complaining that he didn't get brutally warcrimy enough... what a shock... the west can be so wrong about the man in so many aspects of his makeup and being.

    Almost like they don't understand what a white Christian man things or how he behaves... hilarious.

    yes I get they do grab people off the street but this is wartime and even in the current Ukie constition there is mandatory draft meaning you don't get a choice The russians did the same shit during WW2, they grabbed any man they could whether they wanted to go or not, when the sirvival of the state is at stake your choice to fight becomes no ones concern.

    I am surprised Kiev doesn't go all hard core western woke and demand that women be added to the draft as fully equal members of Ukrainian society.

    The issue is not the conscription, the issue is taking these barely trained recruits and handing them a rifle and putting them on the front line and sent in to charge the Russian artillery and machine gun positions... having to climb over the corpses of the previous charges a few minutes earlier...

    It is one thing to sacrifice yourself for your country, but another to sacrifice yourself for Blackwater farms and US business interests who bought all your mines and refineries and money making ventures, and to hold the Russians till after the US elections in the hopes that Biden wins and he can send tactical nukes to kiev... remember they keep saying... nothing is off the table... and just before Russia invaded Kiev was talking about tactical nukes too...

    But when talking about how a population feels you need to consider the entire population not just a small parts view you agree with.

    Nuland didn't give a shit about how the population felt and neither did Biden when they turned the ship in this direction... we saw from the treatment of anyone standing up for Russia, so why not do the same... Russia can offer the pro west portions of Ukraine the same deal they were supposed to be talking about with the eastern ukraine regions. Russian border controls with EU countries, neutral state that does not join HATO or the EU, Russia in control but you basically have elections and fix your own problems yourself. And I don't think they will even go as far as Kiev so Ukrainian language and religion wont be banned.

    What is that? I looks like an interwar creation.

    Will allow some Brits to enlighten you, but imagine a VW kombi van... with no extra armour and more likely to break down... and rather a lot heavier and slower...

    And you are correct... interwar design... the battle of Hastings in 1066 and the Boer war 1899...

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sun May 26, 2024 2:50 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:Vitaly Kuzmin published his pics from the recent exhibition of SMO trophies.   thumbsup  russia

    https://www.vitalykuzmin.net/Military/Exhibition-of-SMO-trophies-in-Moscow

    The exhibition has its moments of (unintended?) comedy Laughing - the awesome Saxon, world-leading cutting-edge UK miltech.  How lucky Russia is to have such an example of Western uber-wundervagon to learn from...   Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz  Razz

    Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57 - Page 12 Saxon_10

    What is that? I looks like an interwar creation.

    This is a northern Ireland version those panels on the side fold out for to protect troops during riots. So this isn't even a field version. I was based in Saxons at one one in my career they are death traps crap off road and had a issue of tipping over, not enough power, and command versions quite often the command module would come loose and almost crush the occupants (I know from personal experience) luckily nobody die from it just injuries but people did die when it overturned. Absolutely crap. It's ok as a riot vehicle and only that.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Sun May 26, 2024 2:53 pm

    So even sky news have finally admitted it..


    Russia is producing artillery shells around three times faster than Ukraine's Western allies and for about a quarter of the cost

    The figures, produced by the management consulting firm Bain & Company, underline a major challenge faced by the Ukrainian armed forces as they rely on supplies of ammunition from the United States and Europe to battle Russia's full-scale invasion.

    The war has been described from the start as a "battle of fires" because of the volume of artillery rounds used.

    It prompted the US, the UK and other European allies to seek to ramp up production in their respective factories, but their ability to manufacture artillery rounds still lags behind Russia's despite a combined economic strength that far outmatches Moscow's.

    As a result, Ukrainian soldiers on the frontline say for every one round they fire against Russian positions, the invading troops can launch around five shells back.

    The research on artillery rounds by Bain & Company, which drew on publicly available information, found that Russian factories were forecast to manufacture or refurbish about 4.5 million artillery shells this year compared with a combined production of about 1.3 million rounds across European nations and the US.

    On cost, it said the average production cost per 155 mm shell - the type produced by NATO countries - was about $4,000 (£3,160) per unit, though it varied significantly between countries. This is compared with a reported Russian production cost of around $1,000 (£790) per 152 mm shell that the Russian armed forces use.

    https://news.sky.com/story/amp/russia-is-producing-artillery-shells-around-three-times-faster-than-ukraines-western-allies-and-for-about-a-quarter-of-the-cost-13143224

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    Post  JohninMK Sun May 26, 2024 3:04 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
    What is that? I looks like an interwar creation.

    Pretty sure it was designed for Northern Ireland where it didn't have to withstand much incoming or IEDs. Much better than a 'snatch' Landrover but only of use in Ukraine 100s of km from the front line. An example of the UK getting rid of obsolete stuff rather than bear the cost of scrapping it.

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun May 26, 2024 4:39 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    But the Internet "experts" still accuse why S-400 is not invicible, accuse that Russian army is weak, blah blah blah.
    [/quote]

    Internet experts ask questions and see a need for improvements. Errors must be identified and corrected. Putin says exactly the words, and the middle and deputy decision-makers in the chain of command say exactly the words.

    It is important to eliminate the errors. If this doesn't happen, there will be consequences. Mistakes that you can't afford to make often.

    1. Belbeg. Mig-31 on the Parada scene. No position changes, no stealth, nothing.

    2. S-400, no TOR. No, TOR probably wouldn't have prevented the splinterhead attack. But the drone that illuminated the target, which also took the video, was able to take pictures and illuminate the target at its leisure.

    If you don't want a forum to be used to exchange opinions, you are just as monkeys, fascist monkeys as those in the West, Ukraine & Co. Then there is no need for the forum.

    Both Targets were destroyed because the simplest homework was not done.

    In Syria, TorM2 was requested because PanzirM was not enough. Anyone who leaves an S-400 standing close together on the field like in an exercise and doesn't have a TorM2 with them is stupid. And there wasn't one! Otherwise the drone wouldn't have been there. I don't see any defensive fire or tank fire.

    Winning and learning to means avoiding mistakes, protecting systems, and changing positions.

    Belbeg exactly, you don't park it in the middle of the runway out of laziness but in a camouflaged position. This is not a kindergarten in Siberia, but a front. Naming mistakes doesn't mean being a NATO troll. It means protecting lives and preserving equipment.

    Finally learn it!

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    Post  Hole Sun May 26, 2024 5:09 pm

    a combined economic strength that far outmatches Moscow's.
    Not in the real world.
    Fantasy GDP numbers based on money printing and debt don´t count.

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    Post  sepheronx Sun May 26, 2024 5:18 pm

    Hole wrote:
    a combined economic strength that far outmatches Moscow's.
    Not in the real world.
    Fantasy GDP numbers based on money printing and debt don´t count.

    This is where people are horribly confused.

    They think high GDP numbers instantly translates to: bigger homes, no homelessness, happiness through the roof and more importantly: better manufacturing.

    For years we heared how horrible russias production efficiency was and how much better manufacturing was in the west, especially Germany.  My, how the tides have turned.  In the end, turns out Russia is very efficient at making weapons and various other goods. So much to the point it has outdone the west by various magnitudes.

    It really boiled down how they fudge their own numbers and borrow money  while moving production all overseas, that their capabilities beyond having a piece of paper with a dead presidents face on it, or digital numbers, actually matter in grand scheme of things.

    When going gets tough, they can't compete with someone who is apparently "extremely poor"

    Also, their numbers on cost of shells is off. Latest numbers is something like $8000 per shell for west. Russia is most likely less than $1000

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    Post  Mir Sun May 26, 2024 5:50 pm

    The-thing-next-door wrote:
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    What is that? I looks like an interwar creation.

    The Saxon is an APC originally designed for the British Army stationed in the UK. This particular one looks like it was modified into a riot control vehicle.
    It was probably worse than the Saracen it replaced Smile

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    Post  Belisarius Sun May 26, 2024 7:10 pm

    Naming mistakes doesn't mean being a NATO troll.

    Repeating the same talking points that have already been refuted multiple times makes you a Nato troll.

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    Post  Hole Sun May 26, 2024 9:00 pm

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    Post  psg Sun May 26, 2024 9:40 pm

    Would love to see a TU-22M3M fully loaded up on multiple ejector racks, with those UMPB D-30SN.

    This is where I agree with alot of the posters about having more frontal aviation, like the MiG 35's, carrying these and other guided munitions, and to keep airframe hours down on the Sukhois.

    Russian MIC, probably have already established a good monthly production number on the UMPB, seeing as they are being utilised from air and ground based platforms. Wonder if they will make a laser guided version, to use in combination with uav's.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun May 26, 2024 9:48 pm

    @JohnM #twomajors -

    "There were 'news from insiders'—no proof, just trust me, pal: this was a foiled coup in Moscow. In my opinion, the truth is that so much cash flows into the Ministry of Defense... there are still old networks of 'friends and family' here and there. Otherwise, why is the Deputy Minister of Defense a former head of the Accounting Chamber?"



    some nazi officer in interview with "the unbiased news outlet: The guns fired only 2 shells a day, when they should have fired at least 30. Imagine a boxing match where there are equal boxers, but one of them can hit 1 time, and his opponent can hit 10 times.”





    ludovicense wrote:How humiliating!.... They put Abrams burned like meat on the barbecue on purpose...

    so NATO's dream came true - ABrams tanks in Moscow. With slight nuance pwnd pwnd pwnd

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun May 26, 2024 10:03 pm

    Hole wrote:
    a combined economic strength that far outmatches Moscow's.
    Not in the real world.
    Fantasy GDP numbers based on money printing and debt don´t count.

    But it is outmatching. Not as much as the inflated GDP shows; nevertheless, look at the production numbers for ships, industrial robots, cars, drones, and machine tools for airplanes. The Russian economy has a very strong manufacturing component—true. Is the Russian economy running in war mode? True. Are the Russian economy's manufacturing capabilities bigger than the Western ones? False.

    Can Russia win? True, because de West cannot focus as much procuctionpower in one direction and Russia has China behind their back too.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun May 26, 2024 10:17 pm

    psg wrote:Would love to see a TU-22M3M fully loaded up on multiple ejector racks, with those UMPB D-30SN.


    100kg explosives - range of FAB-250.


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    Post  Belisarius Sun May 26, 2024 10:42 pm

    Are the Russian economy's manufacturing capabilities bigger than the Western ones? False.

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