Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57

A burst of PR on this around today.

LMAO, here is the website of the Zelensky owned casino in Cyprus https://casinohotelvunipalace.com.

How is Zelensky going to explain this to his Western funders?

Interestingly on the north, Turkish, coast of Cyprus.

Thread https://x.com/aussiecossack/status/1797716902237868178

JohninMK wrote:Read with disbelief

ISW - what else is to expected from these incompetant lying fkheads?

I long ago lost track of number of videos of Russian army driving in columns in the middle of a warzone without cover in broad daylight and promptly getting shredded by Ukr artillery

And Ukr artillery is a rare beast not often seen on this battlefield these days, while the bigger threat is drones, and so you have to ask the question... does spreading out a 30 truck convoy and trying to defend each individual vehicle with its own air defence systems and equipment and escorts to protect them from drones is even possible, or if grouping the vehicles but also the defences together might make sense.

Think about supply ships crossing the Atlantic... when they went on their own they got sunk very easily... bunch them up and they were harder to find in smaller groups and could also have military ships protecting them too.

Sometimes the obvious is not so obvious.

But the one obvious thing is that you know better than they do because they are fucking idiots and you are a genius.

So as usual, a lot of shit posted online is to be taken with a fine grain of sand.  I do not deny Russia loses stuff.  Its a war, guarantee they will lose equipment and men.  But it is heavily exaggerated on Ukraines end, and it is spread very quickly.

You can't fight a war with zero losses, and any loss should be investigated and lessons learned to reduce the chance of losses in the future to avoid more losses, but some pussies here go to pieces and cry like their mama was killed in these attacks and think this is the end or this is incompetence.

Police officers wear stab proof vests and get training yet plenty get stabbed all the time and some of them die... do they need iron man suits?

Are police forces everywhere incompetent?

Would police officers be safer with armoured vehicles with armed turrets and interact with the public via electronic communication via cellphones?

It is amusing the sudden increase in success from Ukraine as they lose more territory and more men... footage of airshow crashes claimed to show Russian planes being shot down appear often.

Sounds like the squealing of something that knows it will soon be dead.

But some idiots mistake it for victory squeals.

Or reasons for Russia to completely change tactics... tactics that are clearly working... which is why Kiev is lashing out to make them change tactics.


Off topic posts moved to talking bollocks thread in general chat section.

If you don't have time to find a suitable thread then neither do I.

Lapain wrote:
It's a big PR stunt by ukronazis handed over by the Russian military and it is shit.

But of course it is, this is why only the dumb part of this community swallows the bait.
And the trolls, but that is sort of a clear thing, and the border of being dumb and troll is fluid.
We are witnessing an increased PR campaign concerning "great successes after the west allowed to use its weapons in full", which is nothing burger.
Ukrs were using this weapon like forever.
Most strikes on Belogrod were made with use of Czech Vampires, being most common and inexpensive.
Other weapons they have is hard to replace.
Russian core territory was targeted with HARMS, ATACSM, smaller cal HIMARS, Mars, Storm Shadows and Scalps - no difference.
Only the Russian side made no big deal of it.
Because there was never point of doing so.
Air defence assets can intercept as high as 90% of those missiles, making a results higher than advertised before the war.
Most of the damage is being done by debris - which can't be avoided.
And again, Russkie are not making a big deal of it, in opposite to banderastan that has made a whole Inventwood to masquerade own people killed by failed AD missiles as victims of Russkie AD missiles used in surface-surface mode.

Terror campaigns will only increase, assisted by the propaganda.
They can't do anything else, so will invent non-existing "offensives".
By the way, there is one "underway" if you want to hear the latest shitnews.
So expect our local pussies to cry a river till effectively sticked up in arse.

Edit : just for the records, an extreme rare video of Pancyr taking down HIMARS salvo. From inside of the cabin, with sound/commands recording.



They have taken down 4 missiles out of a salvo, with use of 5 missiles, and were forced to leave the position only because of running out of ammunition.
It seems that they were a salvo's target, so they had to avoid being hit by relocation and maneuver, still being hit by some shrapnels/debris.
It is war, folks. No respawning, like in your games.

Edit 2 : and pay attention to the timeline. 4/6 missiles were downed, and they had enough time to take the remaining 2 if only had any missiles to use. The sequence is, that they have missed the No 2, and took it down with the last, 5th missile.

flamming_python wrote:Slavyangrad

Several sources has reported that Scott Ritter was removed from a plane in the USA, preventing him from flying to Russia for SPIEF 2024

“The US government removed me from the flight and confiscated my passport. This time I am not flying to Russia. The State Department seized my passport. So no, I'm not flying. I’m fine, just annoyed.
- the former Marine intelligence officer said.

There's that often proclaimed freedom of speech  

I don't agree with taking his passport or anything.

But for the record, free speech in the US and pretty much all Major countries isn't unlimited, you cannot say whatever you want.

That said nothing Ritter as ever said would constitute a just cause for seizing his passport imo

lyle6 wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

I long ago lost track of number of videos of Russian army driving in columns in the middle of a warzone without cover in broad daylight  and promptly getting shredded by Ukr artillery

I pretty much considered it to be a form of suicide by cop at this point, they don't strike me as people interested in not getting killed

Only possible consolation would be that they are Wagner traitors but Russians don't strike me as being that subtle or elegant when solving problems

Your army surrendered shamefully intact against a force that is barely 1% of that mustered against Russia. STFU

doesn't change what he said, that convoy had no business being that big and being that close to the boarder knowing they can get targeted and rained on.

The commanding officer needs to be pulled out.

but this is how fanbooys are you guys cannot stand warranted critism against the russians, a dumbass mistake is a dumbass mistake that needs to be called out and corrected and the morons who made them removed.

Or would you rather the russians not do this, and loose a couple of hundred men for no dam reason?.

What a joke

lyle6 wrote:.....
Your army surrendered shamefully intact against a force that is barely 1% of that mustered against Russia. STFU

Entire NATO is 1% of Ukraine?

Funnies....

PapaDragon wrote:

lyle6 wrote:.....
Your army surrendered shamefully intact against a force that is barely 1% of that mustered against Russia. STFU

Entire NATO is 1% of Ukraine?

Funnies....

Doesn't change the fact that your military hid in the woods while your women and children were getting massacred by NATO airpower...

You only get the right to criticize if you rediscover your balls. Until then STFU

SeigSoloyvov wrote:
doesn't change what he said, that convoy had no business being that big and being that close to the boarder knowing they can get targeted and rained on.

The commanding officer needs to be pulled out.

but this is how fanbooys are you guys cannot stand warranted critism against the russians, a dumbass mistake is a dumbass mistake that needs to be called out and corrected and the morons who made them removed.

Or would you rather the russians not do this, and loose a couple of hundred men for no dam reason?.

What a joke

Even more hilarious. You faggots haven't fought anyone that can competently shoot back in 30 years.

Every single commander in the US army right now got their stripes taking out trash opponents.

When you finally fight the Russians directly your shits going to get rocked like no other.

doesn't change what he said, that convoy had no business being that big and being that close to the boarder knowing they can get targeted and rained on.

The commanding officer needs to be pulled out.

Hahaha... another expert... so this convoy was not carrying balloons and candy floss for the local commanders birthday party... it was likely carrying needed supplies and equipment and ammo and material... so are you saying it would be safer in 20 convoys of two trucks in each?

Because an FPV team can probably hit two vehicles and disappear and having a few teams around the place just on the enemy side of the line could launch attack after attack but might only get a vehicle or two with each attack, but when you split up each convoy and spread them out... they will be taking material from where it is stored (underground and safe) to the front line where it is needed (dug underground and also likely safe too), but instead of delivering it fast and in one go in a convoy the enemy wont have enough FPV drones to completely take out all in one attack and not having enough time to attack more than a couple of times from when it is first spotted and when it arrives at where it is going... presumably both areas well protected from drones by jammers and EW equipment as well as air defence vehicles and soldiers.

Or would you rather the russians not do this, and loose a couple of hundred men for no dam reason?.

What a joke

I would say the real reason HATO wants to send troops into Ukraine is because they now realise how far behind in modern warfare and they want to learn how to get up to speed as quickly as possible by learning from the few Orcs left who know what they are doing before they get killed.

Drones will always be a threat whether the supplies move in two trucks or in 200... when the enemy is made up of small teams then two trucks can be taken out each time and that team can run away and fight to attack again, but against 200 trucks how long do you keep attacking before you stop and leave before you get located and killed?

Rather than worrying about how many trucks you send at a time, I would say it would be more valuable to dedicate more resources to finding recon drones... assuming these are recon drones and not Keyhole satellites.

Love the phrase "mosquito logistics"

MD
@distant_earth83
Netaylovo-Karlovka.

Where there used to be a deep rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, now the front line passes through. The former logistical hub with convenient transportation links, which supplied Avdeevka several months ago, is now under the direct fire control of Russian forces.

As previously noted by "Military Chronicles," the "mosquito logistics" of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is in full swing here, but its current volume is clearly insufficient to help the Ukrainian infantry hold the front line.

The Russian army is unlikely to rush to take Karlovka as the village is situated in a lowland, and the nearby reservoir currently allows the Ukrainian Armed Forces to defend The most intense battles will start once Karlovka is taken and cleared. Immediately after, the M-30 highway to Pokrovsk begins.

This road goes "uphill," and approaching it will be as challenging as it was to reach Kyslyvka and Kotlyarivka near Kupyansk.

GarryB wrote:
I would say the real reason HATO wants to send troops into Ukraine is because they now realise how far behind in modern warfare and they want to learn how to get up to speed as quickly as possible by learning from the few Orcs left who know what they are doing before they get killed.

So the 'trainers' will be the ones learning

lyle6 wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

lyle6 wrote:.....
Your army surrendered shamefully intact against a force that is barely 1% of that mustered against Russia. STFU

Entire NATO is 1% of Ukraine?
Funnies....

Doesn't change the fact that your military hid in the woods while your women and children were getting massacred by NATO airpower...
You only get the right to criticize if you rediscover your balls. Until then STFU

Behold the balls:



I could also post entire folder of fillet mignon KLA pics but Garry would have a cow over NSFW and I don't want to get another vacation



So anyway, what was your army doing last century?

So the 'trainers' will be the ones learning

When talk of sending French troops to the Ukraine conflict was first mentioned a retired French general said it would be like sending cheerleaders to teach professional sports players to play their sport and that they would be learning what does not work and what does rather than teaching them what they know because what they know is probably wrong and will just get them killed.

I don't agree with taking his passport or anything.

But for the record, free speech in the US and pretty much all Major countries isn't unlimited, you cannot say whatever you want.

That said nothing Ritter as ever said would constitute a just cause for seizing his passport imo

Russia has put forward UN resolutions to ban nazi propaganda and each time the US and Ukraine voted against it because free speech is so fundamental to their core beliefs... you have the right to say anything you like no matter who wrong it seems.

Sort of looks amusing when they ban Sputnik and Russia Today news agencies... wonder what US veterans think about the fact that saying anything nice about Putin or Russia is illegal and could get you in trouble, but saying Hitler was cool and if he had won things would be better is fine...

It is not the stance on the ideals, it is where they draw the line... that makes them look bad.

GarryB wrote:
When talk of sending French troops to the Ukraine conflict was first mentioned a retired French general said it would be like sending cheerleaders to teach professional sports players to play their sport and that they would be learning what does not work and what does rather than teaching them what they know because what they know is probably wrong and will just get them killed.

Because it would be.
The whole concept that an operetta army that was fighting camel & goat fuckers on the desert for the last 60 years, and losing this fight for a real prize back in the 60s will teach anything folks who are on war for 2+ years is ridiculous.
This is all about ego, and lack of balls to step back.
Frogs have been wiped out of Africa, the last asset they really have making economic leverage.
By Russkie.
They will whine, yap and try to kick the ankles of an adult who just punished them and threw out of the playground.
It is destroyed ego that powers this micron made stupidity.
NATO has nothing to teach poor Ukrs - they can learn a lot from them.
Objectively speaking, they fight thought and bravely, facing No 1 trained and equipped land forces on the planet.
No NATO army would stand after a fraction of the blows they have received, still digging in.
Just take an objective look - some positions Russkie are taking are smashed and torn to pieces.
Razed & burned to the grounds.
There is a material provided today, showing a position that was TOSed. The whole slope is full of burned corpses. The ones who were inside the strongholds - were not burned, but dead anyway, probably with internal organs turned into salad by the shock blast and underpressure.
There was nobody to resist, and a lot of materials provided that they were fighting back even if the last living defender was left there.
Those are tough guys. Reversed Russkie.

they consider holding Volchansk of high importance

PR reasons. The regime is always in need of more money for buying casinos or nice property
in western countries.

The strikes have become more frequent since Washington gave the go-ahead,

BS. They have to make do for all the shit going on at the front.
Trying to hit civilians is the most easy way.

of a four-barreled aircraft machine gun GShG 7.62

Put the 23mm and 30mm versions on ships.

There's that often proclaimed freedom of speech

Freedom of travel, too.

Russian officers are doing an excellent job in obliterating the enemy.

99 convoys a day reach their destination unharmed, but at one convoy a few trucks get damaged...

No NATO army would stand after a fraction of the blows they have received, still digging in.

They can still fight because NATO is hiding behind their backs.
Had the Iraqi Army received 300+ Billion worth of equipment, the Americans would still sit outside
the doors of Badgad.