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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57
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LMAO, here is the website of the Zelensky owned casino in Cyprus https://casinohotelvunipalace.com.
How is Zelensky going to explain this to his Western funders?
Interestingly on the north, Turkish, coast of Cyprus.
Thread https://x.com/aussiecossack/status/1797716902237868178
How is Zelensky going to explain this to his Western funders?
Interestingly on the north, Turkish, coast of Cyprus.
Thread https://x.com/aussiecossack/status/1797716902237868178
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JohninMK wrote:Read with disbelief
ISW - what else is to expected from these incompetant lying fkheads?
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Cemetery of destroyed US-made MAXX-PRO armored vehicles somewhere in Ukraine.
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Its obvious as to why it was posted here. Useful morons care so much about it.
Yet its Financial times. You know, caught lying on behalf of the west *cough*Russian economy in tattars*cough*
It is meaningless and honestly user should be banned for such an offtopic posting.
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Brings me to another point
A lot of people post pictures of Russian AD systems destroyed.
Question I have is: If it is very secretive to even post about movement of systems and acquisition of systems, how is these pictures being leaked to Ukraine? And especially so up close? Such pictures become extremely easily for Russian MoD to determine who is posting them since only units close to the areas are able to post such stuff and they are specifically told not to.
Which brings another question: How do we know exactly it is where they claim it is the system was from? How do they know all these claims are not just the same claim and multiplied multiple times to spread the same claim?
Most of the news is coming from Ukraine. What is also interesting is that Rybar (crybar as some call em, including myself) is known for over exaggeration of Russia getting hit and about incidences in the country, yet I follow them very closely as they do have good info, have failed to mention half of these so called destructions. They would be all over it like bear on honey.
So as usual, a lot of shit posted online is to be taken with a fine grain of sand. I do not deny Russia loses stuff. Its a war, guarantee they will lose equipment and men. But it is heavily exaggerated on Ukraines end, and it is spread very quickly. Because most of us rely on Telegram channels, you know specifically it is a method to spread nonsense. Much like X.
Yet its Financial times. You know, caught lying on behalf of the west *cough*Russian economy in tattars*cough*
It is meaningless and honestly user should be banned for such an offtopic posting.
Edit:
Brings me to another point
A lot of people post pictures of Russian AD systems destroyed.
Question I have is: If it is very secretive to even post about movement of systems and acquisition of systems, how is these pictures being leaked to Ukraine? And especially so up close? Such pictures become extremely easily for Russian MoD to determine who is posting them since only units close to the areas are able to post such stuff and they are specifically told not to.
Which brings another question: How do we know exactly it is where they claim it is the system was from? How do they know all these claims are not just the same claim and multiplied multiple times to spread the same claim?
Most of the news is coming from Ukraine. What is also interesting is that Rybar (crybar as some call em, including myself) is known for over exaggeration of Russia getting hit and about incidences in the country, yet I follow them very closely as they do have good info, have failed to mention half of these so called destructions. They would be all over it like bear on honey.
So as usual, a lot of shit posted online is to be taken with a fine grain of sand. I do not deny Russia loses stuff. Its a war, guarantee they will lose equipment and men. But it is heavily exaggerated on Ukraines end, and it is spread very quickly. Because most of us rely on Telegram channels, you know specifically it is a method to spread nonsense. Much like X.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57
flamming_python Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:08 am
Slavyangrad
There's that often proclaimed freedom of speech
Several sources has reported that Scott Ritter was removed from a plane in the USA, preventing him from flying to Russia for SPIEF 2024
“The US government removed me from the flight and confiscated my passport. This time I am not flying to Russia. The State Department seized my passport. So no, I'm not flying. I’m fine, just annoyed.
- the former Marine intelligence officer said.
There's that often proclaimed freedom of speech
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I long ago lost track of number of videos of Russian army driving in columns in the middle of a warzone without cover in broad daylight and promptly getting shredded by Ukr artillery
And Ukr artillery is a rare beast not often seen on this battlefield these days, while the bigger threat is drones, and so you have to ask the question... does spreading out a 30 truck convoy and trying to defend each individual vehicle with its own air defence systems and equipment and escorts to protect them from drones is even possible, or if grouping the vehicles but also the defences together might make sense.
Think about supply ships crossing the Atlantic... when they went on their own they got sunk very easily... bunch them up and they were harder to find in smaller groups and could also have military ships protecting them too.
Sometimes the obvious is not so obvious.
But the one obvious thing is that you know better than they do because they are fucking idiots and you are a genius.
So as usual, a lot of shit posted online is to be taken with a fine grain of sand. I do not deny Russia loses stuff. Its a war, guarantee they will lose equipment and men. But it is heavily exaggerated on Ukraines end, and it is spread very quickly.
You can't fight a war with zero losses, and any loss should be investigated and lessons learned to reduce the chance of losses in the future to avoid more losses, but some pussies here go to pieces and cry like their mama was killed in these attacks and think this is the end or this is incompetence.
Police officers wear stab proof vests and get training yet plenty get stabbed all the time and some of them die... do they need iron man suits?
Are police forces everywhere incompetent?
Would police officers be safer with armoured vehicles with armed turrets and interact with the public via electronic communication via cellphones?
It is amusing the sudden increase in success from Ukraine as they lose more territory and more men... footage of airshow crashes claimed to show Russian planes being shot down appear often.
Sounds like the squealing of something that knows it will soon be dead.
But some idiots mistake it for victory squeals.
Or reasons for Russia to completely change tactics... tactics that are clearly working... which is why Kiev is lashing out to make them change tactics.
Off topic posts moved to talking bollocks thread in general chat section.
If you don't have time to find a suitable thread then neither do I.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57
Walther von Oldenburg Tue Jun 04, 2024 8:46 am
Ukrainian counteroffensive started exactly one year ago.
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PapaDragon wrote:caveat emptor wrote:Some Russian officers are still Russian soldiers biggest enemy. Tightly grouped convoy 2 kilometers from the border with predictable results.
https://t.me/supernova_plus/32033
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I long ago lost track of number of videos of Russian army driving in columns in the middle of a warzone without cover in broad daylight and promptly getting shredded by Ukr artillery
I pretty much considered it to be a form of suicide by cop at this point, they don't strike me as people interested in not getting killed
Only possible consolation would be that they are Wagner traitors but Russians don't strike me as being that subtle or elegant when solving problems
From what can be seen, nothing really critical was hit there, no 200s either. It's a big PR stunt by ukronazis handed over by the Russian military and it is shit. Wish less of it could happen but nothing will change. After 2 years, the FPV threat and HIMARS system is still a massive headache, no countermeasure has been devised yet. Strangely enough, the Chinese who have great interest in defeating this kind of system, would have lots of people working on silver bullets to kill those pesky items as soon as they are detected. Perhaps this technology will appear in the SMO disguised as Russian?
Another thing is the apparent inability to grow the Volchansk firebag and seize the opportunity to disbalance the enemy widening the front in several other sectors. If there's any truth about the Ru numbers in manpower all such fronts. I read there's only 10K deployed in the Volchansk, Lipsy "buffer", the bare minimum to hold the place without moving any further. Are they waiting for a repeat of the Kherson episode and hand out yet another PR victory to NATO when they most need it? Instead of decisively deny it and further change power dynamics worldwide about this silly conflict.
Reports about Ukronazi lack of fire and personnel are to be taken with a big grain of salt, maskirovka does go both ways.
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Lapain wrote:
It's a big PR stunt by ukronazis handed over by the Russian military and it is shit.
But of course it is, this is why only the dumb part of this community swallows the bait.
And the trolls, but that is sort of a clear thing, and the border of being dumb and troll is fluid.
We are witnessing an increased PR campaign concerning "great successes after the west allowed to use its weapons in full", which is nothing burger.
Ukrs were using this weapon like forever.
Most strikes on Belogrod were made with use of Czech Vampires, being most common and inexpensive.
Other weapons they have is hard to replace.
Russian core territory was targeted with HARMS, ATACSM, smaller cal HIMARS, Mars, Storm Shadows and Scalps - no difference.
Only the Russian side made no big deal of it.
Because there was never point of doing so.
Air defence assets can intercept as high as 90% of those missiles, making a results higher than advertised before the war.
Most of the damage is being done by debris - which can't be avoided.
And again, Russkie are not making a big deal of it, in opposite to banderastan that has made a whole Inventwood to masquerade own people killed by failed AD missiles as victims of Russkie AD missiles used in surface-surface mode.
Terror campaigns will only increase, assisted by the propaganda.
They can't do anything else, so will invent non-existing "offensives".
By the way, there is one "underway" if you want to hear the latest shitnews.
So expect our local pussies to cry a river till effectively sticked up in arse.
Edit : just for the records, an extreme rare video of Pancyr taking down HIMARS salvo. From inside of the cabin, with sound/commands recording.
They have taken down 4 missiles out of a salvo, with use of 5 missiles, and were forced to leave the position only because of running out of ammunition.
It seems that they were a salvo's target, so they had to avoid being hit by relocation and maneuver, still being hit by some shrapnels/debris.
It is war, folks. No respawning, like in your games.
Edit 2 : and pay attention to the timeline. 4/6 missiles were downed, and they had enough time to take the remaining 2 if only had any missiles to use. The sequence is, that they have missed the No 2, and took it down with the last, 5th missile.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57
SeigSoloyvov Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:11 am
flamming_python wrote:Slavyangrad
Several sources has reported that Scott Ritter was removed from a plane in the USA, preventing him from flying to Russia for SPIEF 2024
“The US government removed me from the flight and confiscated my passport. This time I am not flying to Russia. The State Department seized my passport. So no, I'm not flying. I’m fine, just annoyed.
- the former Marine intelligence officer said.
There's that often proclaimed freedom of speech
I don't agree with taking his passport or anything.
But for the record, free speech in the US and pretty much all Major countries isn't unlimited, you cannot say whatever you want.
That said nothing Ritter as ever said would constitute a just cause for seizing his passport imo
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57
SeigSoloyvov Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:19 am
lyle6 wrote:PapaDragon wrote:
I long ago lost track of number of videos of Russian army driving in columns in the middle of a warzone without cover in broad daylight and promptly getting shredded by Ukr artillery
I pretty much considered it to be a form of suicide by cop at this point, they don't strike me as people interested in not getting killed
Only possible consolation would be that they are Wagner traitors but Russians don't strike me as being that subtle or elegant when solving problems
Your army surrendered shamefully intact against a force that is barely 1% of that mustered against Russia. STFU
doesn't change what he said, that convoy had no business being that big and being that close to the boarder knowing they can get targeted and rained on.
The commanding officer needs to be pulled out.
but this is how fanbooys are you guys cannot stand warranted critism against the russians, a dumbass mistake is a dumbass mistake that needs to be called out and corrected and the morons who made them removed.
Or would you rather the russians not do this, and loose a couple of hundred men for no dam reason?.
What a joke
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57
PapaDragon Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:28 am
lyle6 wrote:.....
Your army surrendered shamefully intact against a force that is barely 1% of that mustered against Russia. STFU
Entire NATO is 1% of Ukraine?
Funnies....
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Doesn't change the fact that your military hid in the woods while your women and children were getting massacred by NATO airpower...PapaDragon wrote:lyle6 wrote:.....
Your army surrendered shamefully intact against a force that is barely 1% of that mustered against Russia. STFU
Entire NATO is 1% of Ukraine?
Funnies....
You only get the right to criticize if you rediscover your balls. Until then STFU
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Even more hilarious. You faggots haven't fought anyone that can competently shoot back in 30 years.SeigSoloyvov wrote:
doesn't change what he said, that convoy had no business being that big and being that close to the boarder knowing they can get targeted and rained on.
The commanding officer needs to be pulled out.
but this is how fanbooys are you guys cannot stand warranted critism against the russians, a dumbass mistake is a dumbass mistake that needs to be called out and corrected and the morons who made them removed.
Or would you rather the russians not do this, and loose a couple of hundred men for no dam reason?.
What a joke
Every single commander in the US army right now got their stripes taking out trash opponents.
When you finally fight the Russians directly your shits going to get rocked like no other.
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doesn't change what he said, that convoy had no business being that big and being that close to the boarder knowing they can get targeted and rained on.
The commanding officer needs to be pulled out.
Hahaha... another expert... so this convoy was not carrying balloons and candy floss for the local commanders birthday party... it was likely carrying needed supplies and equipment and ammo and material... so are you saying it would be safer in 20 convoys of two trucks in each?
Because an FPV team can probably hit two vehicles and disappear and having a few teams around the place just on the enemy side of the line could launch attack after attack but might only get a vehicle or two with each attack, but when you split up each convoy and spread them out... they will be taking material from where it is stored (underground and safe) to the front line where it is needed (dug underground and also likely safe too), but instead of delivering it fast and in one go in a convoy the enemy wont have enough FPV drones to completely take out all in one attack and not having enough time to attack more than a couple of times from when it is first spotted and when it arrives at where it is going... presumably both areas well protected from drones by jammers and EW equipment as well as air defence vehicles and soldiers.
Or would you rather the russians not do this, and loose a couple of hundred men for no dam reason?.
What a joke
I would say the real reason HATO wants to send troops into Ukraine is because they now realise how far behind in modern warfare and they want to learn how to get up to speed as quickly as possible by learning from the few Orcs left who know what they are doing before they get killed.
Drones will always be a threat whether the supplies move in two trucks or in 200... when the enemy is made up of small teams then two trucks can be taken out each time and that team can run away and fight to attack again, but against 200 trucks how long do you keep attacking before you stop and leave before you get located and killed?
Rather than worrying about how many trucks you send at a time, I would say it would be more valuable to dedicate more resources to finding recon drones... assuming these are recon drones and not Keyhole satellites.
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Ukrainian counteroffensive started exactly one year ago.
After so much hype in the western press it came to an abrupt halt about a week later
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Love the phrase "mosquito logistics" 
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Netaylovo-Karlovka.
Where there used to be a deep rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, now the front line passes through. The former logistical hub with convenient transportation links, which supplied Avdeevka several months ago, is now under the direct fire control of Russian forces.
As previously noted by "Military Chronicles," the "mosquito logistics" of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is in full swing here, but its current volume is clearly insufficient to help the Ukrainian infantry hold the front line.
The Russian army is unlikely to rush to take Karlovka as the village is situated in a lowland, and the nearby reservoir currently allows the Ukrainian Armed Forces to defend The most intense battles will start once Karlovka is taken and cleared. Immediately after, the M-30 highway to Pokrovsk begins.
This road goes "uphill," and approaching it will be as challenging as it was to reach Kyslyvka and Kotlyarivka near Kupyansk.
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Netaylovo-Karlovka.Where there used to be a deep rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, now the front line passes through. The former logistical hub with convenient transportation links, which supplied Avdeevka several months ago, is now under the direct fire control of Russian forces.
As previously noted by "Military Chronicles," the "mosquito logistics" of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is in full swing here, but its current volume is clearly insufficient to help the Ukrainian infantry hold the front line.
The Russian army is unlikely to rush to take Karlovka as the village is situated in a lowland, and the nearby reservoir currently allows the Ukrainian Armed Forces to defend The most intense battles will start once Karlovka is taken and cleared. Immediately after, the M-30 highway to Pokrovsk begins.
This road goes "uphill," and approaching it will be as challenging as it was to reach Kyslyvka and Kotlyarivka near Kupyansk.
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GarryB wrote:
I would say the real reason HATO wants to send troops into Ukraine is because they now realise how far behind in modern warfare and they want to learn how to get up to speed as quickly as possible by learning from the few Orcs left who know what they are doing before they get killed.
So the 'trainers' will be the ones learning
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57
PapaDragon Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:26 am
lyle6 wrote:Doesn't change the fact that your military hid in the woods while your women and children were getting massacred by NATO airpower...PapaDragon wrote:Entire NATO is 1% of Ukraine?lyle6 wrote:.....
Your army surrendered shamefully intact against a force that is barely 1% of that mustered against Russia. STFU
Funnies....
You only get the right to criticize if you rediscover your balls. Until then STFU
Behold the balls:
I could also post entire folder of fillet mignon KLA pics but Garry would have a cow over NSFW and I don't want to get another vacation
So anyway, what was your army doing last century?
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So the 'trainers' will be the ones learning
When talk of sending French troops to the Ukraine conflict was first mentioned a retired French general said it would be like sending cheerleaders to teach professional sports players to play their sport and that they would be learning what does not work and what does rather than teaching them what they know because what they know is probably wrong and will just get them killed.
I don't agree with taking his passport or anything.
But for the record, free speech in the US and pretty much all Major countries isn't unlimited, you cannot say whatever you want.
That said nothing Ritter as ever said would constitute a just cause for seizing his passport imo
Russia has put forward UN resolutions to ban nazi propaganda and each time the US and Ukraine voted against it because free speech is so fundamental to their core beliefs... you have the right to say anything you like no matter who wrong it seems.
Sort of looks amusing when they ban Sputnik and Russia Today news agencies... wonder what US veterans think about the fact that saying anything nice about Putin or Russia is illegal and could get you in trouble, but saying Hitler was cool and if he had won things would be better is fine...
It is not the stance on the ideals, it is where they draw the line... that makes them look bad.
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Re: Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57
Belisarius Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:55 am
but this is how fanbooys are you guys cannot stand warranted critism against the russians, a dumbass mistake is a dumbass mistake that needs to be called out and corrected and the morons who made them removed.
Last time I checked, more than 700,000 ukrainians died to kill less than 50,000 russians. So no matter how many fake, edited and contextless videos you bring here, it will not change the fact that 99% of Russian officers are doing an excellent job in obliterating the enemy.
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GarryB wrote:
When talk of sending French troops to the Ukraine conflict was first mentioned a retired French general said it would be like sending cheerleaders to teach professional sports players to play their sport and that they would be learning what does not work and what does rather than teaching them what they know because what they know is probably wrong and will just get them killed.
Because it would be.
The whole concept that an operetta army that was fighting camel & goat fuckers on the desert for the last 60 years, and losing this fight for a real prize back in the 60s will teach anything folks who are on war for 2+ years is ridiculous.
This is all about ego, and lack of balls to step back.
Frogs have been wiped out of Africa, the last asset they really have making economic leverage.
By Russkie.
They will whine, yap and try to kick the ankles of an adult who just punished them and threw out of the playground.
It is destroyed ego that powers this micron made stupidity.
NATO has nothing to teach poor Ukrs - they can learn a lot from them.
Objectively speaking, they fight thought and bravely, facing No 1 trained and equipped land forces on the planet.
No NATO army would stand after a fraction of the blows they have received, still digging in.
Just take an objective look - some positions Russkie are taking are smashed and torn to pieces.
Razed & burned to the grounds.
There is a material provided today, showing a position that was TOSed. The whole slope is full of burned corpses. The ones who were inside the strongholds - were not burned, but dead anyway, probably with internal organs turned into salad by the shock blast and underpressure.
There was nobody to resist, and a lot of materials provided that they were fighting back even if the last living defender was left there.
Those are tough guys. Reversed Russkie.
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There is no such thing as free speech , full stop . Only in the West , they are more subtle and PR friendly ways to suppress dissenting voices . In the East , they exile or hang you ! Safety of convoys , the lead vehicle can be ROV , sacrificial to combat mines . There can be a few empty trucks , reducing losses of cargo at least , armoured driver cabin , to save driver . The remains of F117 , brought down using long wave nebu radar ? The peaceful solution is The partition of Ukraine , based on ethnic majority areas . The minorities then given the choice of relocation with compensation .
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PR reasons. The regime is always in need of more money for buying casinos or nice propertythey consider holding Volchansk of high importance
in western countries.
BS. They have to make do for all the shit going on at the front.The strikes have become more frequent since Washington gave the go-ahead,
Trying to hit civilians is the most easy way.
Put the 23mm and 30mm versions on ships.of a four-barreled aircraft machine gun GShG 7.62
Freedom of travel, too.There's that often proclaimed freedom of speech
99 convoys a day reach their destination unharmed, but at one convoy a few trucks get damaged...Russian officers are doing an excellent job in obliterating the enemy.
They can still fight because NATO is hiding behind their backs.No NATO army would stand after a fraction of the blows they have received, still digging in.
Had the Iraqi Army received 300+ Billion worth of equipment, the Americans would still sit outside
the doors of Badgad.
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