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Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57
Hole- Posts : 11116
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Impressive shotdown but a day late and a dollar short. NATO airpower still had their way the whole time. You merely imposed costs, you didn't stop shit.PapaDragon wrote:
I could also post entire folder of fillet mignon KLA pics but Garry would have a cow over NSFW and I don't want to get another vacation
Ruthlessly crushing muslim seperatists. Successfully I must add.PapaDragon wrote:
So anyway, what was your army doing last century?
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They need to cut the cage into two parts with a small gap in between. One half is attached to the turret while the bottom one is welded to the hull. This way the turret can still traverse like normal.
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Karl Haushofer- Posts : 1228
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The West: Our weapons will be used to hit Russian territory.
Russia: We may consider retaliation in case Western weapons are used against our territory.
Russia: We may consider retaliation in case Western weapons are used against our territory.
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Frogs have been wiped out of Africa, the last asset they really have making economic leverage.
By Russkie.
Lets be honest... the Putin didn't do that... I was Russia doing the right thing and the French and Europeans just being themselves that led to the rejection of white colonial rule in Africa. It was French behaviour that has led to their current situation.
There is no such thing as free speech , full stop . Only in the West , they are more subtle and PR friendly ways to suppress dissenting voices .
The real irony is that the west vocally defends the rights to free speech and then actions against Assange and Snowden and in this case Ritter show they are just full of shit... you will find the same when you look at democracy and freedom too... they have plenty of political prisoners around the world and have overthrown more legitimate governments than communism has.
Put the 23mm and 30mm versions on ships.
The 30mm gatlings on ships are already suitable for the role, especially the ones that are not the lightweight versions for patrol boats that don't have water cooling systems for the barrels.
The West: Our weapons will be used to hit Russian territory.
Russia: We may consider retaliation in case Western weapons are used against our territory.
Notice the difference though... for about 3 months you were hearing about the Kiev offensive... when they started talking about it it was a spring offensive but eventually became a summer offensive and it failed like a dog. Now think back to when Russia announced its offensive. What do you mean they didn't?
Could it possibly be that announcing your intentions to the enemy is not a great way to fight a war?
Russia is going to wait for Kiev to do something stupid and it is going to respond in a way that seriously damages Kiev and improves Russias position in this conflict.
You know... the way an adult would.
Unlike the west who, when attacked by a group of loonies on 11/9 from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan... invaded Iraq and then Afghanistan... only to eventually track down the guy they wanted... in Pakistan.
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Being an adult and being a punching bag are two different things.
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The firing angle of those CIWS is good against airborne targets.The 30mm gatlings on ships are already suitable for the role,
For unmanned boats there are not close enough to the sides of the ship.
Put a few Gatling guns there. The calibre isn´t so important, just something
that can spit out a lot of rounds.
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ALAMO wrote:Lapain wrote:
It's a big PR stunt by ukronazis handed over by the Russian military and it is shit.
Terror campaigns will only increase, assisted by the propaganda.
They can't do anything else, so will invent non-existing "offensives".
By the way, there is one "underway" if you want to hear the latest shitnews.
So expect our local pussies to cry a river till effectively sticked up in arse.
Edit : just for the records, an extreme rare video of Pancyr taking down HIMARS salvo. From inside of the cabin, with sound/commands recording.
They have taken down 4 missiles out of a salvo, with use of 5 missiles, and were forced to leave the position only because of running out of ammunition.
It seems that they were a salvo's target, so they had to avoid being hit by relocation and maneuver, still being hit by some shrapnels/debris.
It is war, folks. No respawning, like in your games.
Edit 2 : and pay attention to the timeline. 4/6 missiles were downed, and they had enough time to take the remaining 2 if only had any missiles to use. The sequence is, that they have missed the No 2, and took it down with the last, 5th missile.
Better would have been to just accelerate and leave the position. Impact would have done no damage.
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Thank you that you have shared with us your waste and first-hand experience of how to command an antiaircraft battery.
Next time when we will have doubts about what is inside the black hole, we will all know who has the expertise in everything other than wiping his nose.
Next time when we will have doubts about what is inside the black hole, we will all know who has the expertise in everything other than wiping his nose.
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Karl Haushofer wrote:The West: Our weapons will be used to hit Russian territory.
Russia: We may consider retaliation in case Western weapons are used against our territory.
The Russians won't do shit and they know it, this is all just blowing hot air, they are at war.
Ukraine has every right to hit them with weapons during wartime, regardless of who they got it from.
btw Russia has bombed Ukraine with Iranian made drones, shells etc.
So by this logic Russia is breaking its own rule as its using foreign provided weapons to strike within Ukraine, not Ukie forces on Russian soil..
This hot shit garbage of logic makes me laugh
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Better would have been to just accelerate and leave the position. Impact would have done no damage.
Then you'll become one to whine about how useless Pantsir is. It just ran away. HIMARS is hitting everything. Useless Russian AD.
Fix your damm mind, you want AD to shoot down something (and risking getting hit) or keep running?
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When there is genocide of an ethnic group , in this case the Russian speaking population and the stated aim of mass deportations by the coup Orcs . Then the state looses legitimate control of that territory and outside humanitarian intervention becomes legitimate and necessary . The Russians never armed the Russian speaking regions for a legitimate attack on the Nazi backer states of Europe , particularly England . Yet the Anglos and co , armed the Nazis to not only attack the Russian speaking population but now Russia itself . Without value judgement , there can be no judgement . Some don't deserve territorial integrity , Anglo- Zionists included . Death to all the Nazis and European " closet , " Nazi backers !
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T-47 wrote:
Then you'll become one to whine about how useless Pantsir is. It just ran away. HIMARS is hitting everything. Useless Russian AD.
Fix your damm mind, you want AD to shoot down something (and risking getting hit) or keep running?
He wants to show us why the Frogs have earned their reputation.
How sad.
A nation that used to be the most furious in history ...
Only fought the wrong enemies ...
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Karl Haushofer wrote:The West: Our weapons will be used to hit Russian territory.
Russia: We may consider retaliation in case Western weapons are used against our territory.
The Russians won't do shit and they know it, this is all just blowing hot air, they are at war.
Ukraine has every right to hit them with weapons during wartime, regardless of who they got it from.
btw Russia has bombed Ukraine with Iranian made drones, shells etc.
So by this logic Russia is breaking its own rule as its using foreign provided weapons to strike within Ukraine, not Ukie forces on Russian soil..
This hot shit garbage of logic makes me laugh
It's NATO hitting Russia on NATO orders
And no, nothing like this ever happened during the Cold War
Only a matter of time until they succeed in one of their attacks
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ALAMO- Posts : 7477
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How?
In detail?
How much they will "succed"?
In detail?
How much they will "succed"?
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flamming_python wrote:It's NATO hitting Russia on NATO orders
And no, nothing like this ever happened during the Cold War
Only a matter of time until they succeed in one of their attacks
By about this muchALAMO wrote:How?
In detail?
How much they will "succed"?
Of course the new buffer zone regions will want to join the Russian Federation too, meaning further expansion into 404. Such is life...
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flamming_python wrote:
It's NATO hitting Russia on NATO orders
And no, nothing like this ever happened during the Cold War
Only a matter of time until they succeed in one of their attacks
At first I disagreed with you, now I see that indeed
It seems NATO is preparing a first strike on Russia
Seems they creep to remove radars, S400 batteries and other equipment that could prevent their first strike
It seems a response is needed
But how will it come? Do you match NATO and start crippling their early warning system ? Or do you hit them even harder ?
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The problem is, the Americunts and the Eurofags aren't scared of Russia. This would never have happened pre-1991 because nukes would have landed.
Russia just needs to hand them a shopping list and say "we want this. try and stop us and we WILL have WW3. We dont want anything more than our own people under the right govt and being safe. The Ukrainian area, Kazakstan, Baltics, the whole FSU. If you refuse to allow us that, we will refuse to allow YOU the same".
What the Americunts are doing now is playing into VVP's misplaced legalistic tripe.
"It's ok if you hand someone else the gun to shoot me if you don;'t pull the trigger yourself".
Let the Houthis have a proper Russian missile and see how GAYTO likes that.
Russia just needs to hand them a shopping list and say "we want this. try and stop us and we WILL have WW3. We dont want anything more than our own people under the right govt and being safe. The Ukrainian area, Kazakstan, Baltics, the whole FSU. If you refuse to allow us that, we will refuse to allow YOU the same".
What the Americunts are doing now is playing into VVP's misplaced legalistic tripe.
"It's ok if you hand someone else the gun to shoot me if you don;'t pull the trigger yourself".
Let the Houthis have a proper Russian missile and see how GAYTO likes that.
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Arkanghelsk wrote:flamming_python wrote:
It's NATO hitting Russia on NATO orders
And no, nothing like this ever happened during the Cold War
Only a matter of time until they succeed in one of their attacks
At first I disagreed with you, now I see that indeed
It seems NATO is preparing a first strike on Russia
Seems they creep to remove radars, S400 batteries and other equipment that could prevent their first strike
It seems a response is needed
But how will it come? Do you match NATO and start crippling their early warning system ? Or do you hit them even harder ?
You need to remove their eyes and ears.
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flamming_python- Posts : 9521
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Arkanghelsk wrote:flamming_python wrote:
It's NATO hitting Russia on NATO orders
And no, nothing like this ever happened during the Cold War
Only a matter of time until they succeed in one of their attacks
At first I disagreed with you, now I see that indeed
It seems NATO is preparing a first strike on Russia
Seems they creep to remove radars, S400 batteries and other equipment that could prevent their first strike
It seems a response is needed
But how will it come? Do you match NATO and start crippling their early warning system ? Or do you hit them even harder ?
Well the Russian hunter-killer satellites are already in orbit trailing the American satellites. At least that's what we've heard.
Maybe their early warning constellation, maybe their spy satellites. Don't know.
But NATO so far is not backing down.
The problem is not them trying to hit Russian whatever formations on the border with the Ukraine and what damage that does, or even the Ukrainian drone attack on the Voronezh EW radar which we would be wise to assume was co-ordinated with NATO too - but the implications of not responding to that and what it could lead to further, post the next NATO champagne party in Brussels where they all persuade themselves that Russia is scared of them and can be pushed into a corner.
I'm hoping the Russian satellite hunters sober up some minds but I'm not optimistic. It's more a message than a response. Now we will seemingly have to wait until the next escalation to give one, while a more proactive approach on Russia's part to give the West a good scare seems to be an idea that doesn't enter anyone's mind at all.
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flamming_python wrote:
Well the Russian hunter-killer satellites are already in orbit trailing the American satellites.
Maybe their early warning constellation, maybe their spy satellites. Don't know.
But NATO so far is not backing down.
The problem is not them trying to hit Russian whatever formations on the border with the Ukraine, or even the Ukrainian drone attack on the Voronezh EW radar which was undoubtedly co-ordinated with NATO too - but the implications of not responding to that and what it could lead to further, post the next NATO champagne party in Brussels where they all persuade themselves that Russia is scared of them and can be pushed into a corner.
I'm hoping the Russian satellite hunters sober up some minds but I'm not optimistic. It's more a message than a response. Now we will seemingly have to wait until the next escalation to give one, while a more proactive approach on Russia's part to give the West a good scare seems to be an idea that doesn't enter anyone's mind at all.
IMO the next attack will be a mixed package of ATACMS, Scalps and Drones
They will mix in hits on frontline targets with some hit on some sensitive target
Radakins comments suggests that the British don’t consider the Russian nuclear deterrent a factor at all
My guess is they will attempt another strike in the next weeks as the peace summit ends and the Chinese peace initiative begins to gain ground
The message they send is, we don’t care about your nuclear deterrent , you are too pussy to use it so we will hit you as we see fit
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Shame, looked a nice place to be billeted in 
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Britain doesn't have the capability, doesn't matter how loudly their political class barks
ATACMS, HIMARS - these are all American capabilities, sometimes co-ordinated with French or British specialists with their own missiles. Don't know who pilots the drones. Targeting, satellite data and so on are all American assets too. But it makes sense to consider it a collective of NATO here rather than pick out a country individually.
Ukrainians have the role of loading rockets into the tubes in the best case.
ATACMS, HIMARS - these are all American capabilities, sometimes co-ordinated with French or British specialists with their own missiles. Don't know who pilots the drones. Targeting, satellite data and so on are all American assets too. But it makes sense to consider it a collective of NATO here rather than pick out a country individually.
Ukrainians have the role of loading rockets into the tubes in the best case.
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flamming_python wrote:Britain doesn't have the capability, doesn't matter how loudly their political class barks
ATACMS, HIMARS - these are all American capabilities, sometimes co-ordinated with French or British specialists with their own missiles. Don't know who pilots the drones. Targeting, satellite data and so on are all American assets too. But it makes sense to consider it a collective of NATO here rather than pick out a country individually.
Ukrainians have the role of loading rockets into the tubes in the best case.
That still leaves the major question
Who will receive the main response?
You have to pick one of them - so who? And do you do it openly ? Or do you enable a sort of covert attack that makes it undeniable who it was, but without a trace a la nord stream 2
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Just a reminder of the quality in the UA.
Massacre near Kupyansk: Ukrainian Armed Forces military announce large losses during the assault due to stupid command
They accuse the command of rash assault actions, incorrect planning and reporting of operational information, and underestimating the enemy’s forces and means.”
The media quote Oleg Tkachenko, who reported that a company of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was ordered to storm the village of Ivanovka.
Intelligence data was transmitted that there were 10-15 Russian soldiers without armored vehicles. They promised to suppress drones using electronic warfare.
"In fact: in the village there were about 100-150 soldiers, 2 infantry fighting vehicles, which were supported by a tank. The promised electronic warfare was not there; there was complete superiority of enemy drones in the sky.
As a consequence: 5 military personnel were killed almost immediately, some of them precisely because of ammunition dropped by enemy UAVs. 11 were wounded,” Tkachenko reports.
Under constant fire, without fortifications, the survivors took the bodies of the dead, but evacuated them only on the fourth day after calls to senior management and publicity of the situation.
Tkachenko listed names and publishes photos of the dead.
- RVvoenkor
Massacre near Kupyansk: Ukrainian Armed Forces military announce large losses during the assault due to stupid command
They accuse the command of rash assault actions, incorrect planning and reporting of operational information, and underestimating the enemy’s forces and means.” The media quote Oleg Tkachenko, who reported that a company of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was ordered to storm the village of Ivanovka.Intelligence data was transmitted that there were 10-15 Russian soldiers without armored vehicles. They promised to suppress drones using electronic warfare."In fact: in the village there were about 100-150 soldiers, 2 infantry fighting vehicles, which were supported by a tank. The promised electronic warfare was not there; there was complete superiority of enemy drones in the sky. As a consequence: 5 military personnel were killed almost immediately, some of them precisely because of ammunition dropped by enemy UAVs. 11 were wounded,” Tkachenko reports.Under constant fire, without fortifications, the survivors took the bodies of the dead, but evacuated them only on the fourth day after calls to senior management and publicity of the situation.Tkachenko listed names and publishes photos of the dead.- RVvoenkor
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