Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57

Many countries in the EU, however, still have some sense and oppose Ukraine launching attacks with Western weapons on Russian territory. Even though this won't change much, the US will still allow this type of attacks.

Russia should set up a proxy group in Ukraine to fight for the freedom of Ukraine against Kiev... Russia can supply all sorts of weapons to them and they can use them as they please against any targets they choose, which would make countries supplying Kiev legitimate military targets.

Russia can't tell this group who they can or cannot launch strikes against obviously and this group could look at the countries supporting the illegal terror attacks on Russian territory which started in 2014, that have given Kiev free range to attack any target they like and reply in kind.

They could take the DU ammo from captured western tanks and Bradley BMPs and grind it up to a fine powder and sprinkle it over HATO territory to damage their crop growing soils... it is OK because the UK and US says it is harmless...

Maybe Russia should initiate some legal proceedings against those western political officials advocating attacks inside Russia too.

RCS is likely to be small too. Maybe in order of 0.2 sqm or less.

If it costs 20 million a unit then it might be stealthy, but otherwise I would rather suspect it is not stealthy at all... the materials are probably carbon fibre or plastic which would not have a good radar return, but that would expose the engine and fuel tanks to be very unstealthy shapes that would appear well on radar...

The An-2 does not have a tiny RCS yet represented a problem when flying low and slow because it was often eliminated from radar screens as noise rather than potential targets.

About this supposed second attack on long range radar of nuclear warning , it is a square station building . Easy to put square net in front of building and around it . Similar to oil depot containers .  Easy . Also Russia can put radar closer to target country on ships and if they detect ICBM launch , then phone Moscow . QED .



Or activate the doomsday device .....detects radiation .....

Sounds like the plan is working

All thermal power plants in Ukraine have been damaged or destroyed — Ukrenergo

Now their share in electricity generation has dropped to 5%.

Two hydropower plants are completely out of operation. Nuclear power plants are working, but in the summer many units are undergoing repairs. Up to 40% (more than 8 GW) of shunting capacities, which were used to cover morning and evening consumption peaks, have also been destroyed.

Importing up to 1.7 GW of capacity from the EU can only partially cover the shortfall. It is ‘impossible’ to restore all generating capacities before winter, the ministry said:

Restrictions on electricity consumption will remain part of our lives for a long time to come due to the large capacity losses of Ukrainian power plants. The repair campaign will be more complicated as the volumes of restoration are very large.

http://t.me/ukraine_watch

Scorpius wrote:I hesitate between hysterical squirrels and clowns to properly illustrate the behavior of some people writing on the forum about the delusional claims of Ukrainian propaganda about causing some unacceptable damage to Russian missile warning systems. Like what? Does the US want to suddenly attack Russia with nuclear bombs?
Welcome - you can always make sure that the consequences for you are inevitable.

Regarding the damage to these radars, as far as I can tell the damage in photos, assuming the images are not doctored, looks to be limited to superficial panel damage to the outer bldg envelope, ie no signs of deep penetrative impacts and large internal explosions. No blackening around the damaged areas, no sign of any subsequent fire.

These radars are basically a large pre-fabricated structural array onto which waveguides are assembled and cables routed down to ground level on cable racks/trays. The outer envelope is little more than a weather barrier to provide environmental protection and conceal the internals from general survellance. These radars are large, immobile and in exposed locations, and would certainly be targetted in any full exchange scenario with the Global Seditionist forces. I would have expected that some protective measures would have been installed to provide basic mitigation to blast damage, eg heavy duty cable ways and supports to resist general blast forces, maybe some form of spall lining to protect against framentation.

Given these factors I suspect that damage will be minor and limited to a small number of cable faults. Being an array of individual waveform elements (which are mechanically robust), the radar would be inherently fault tolerant and redundant, and likely remains near-fully functional with only minor performance degradation.

This is of course speculation, but seems reasonable IMHO.

Broski wrote:
Both the US & EU are heavily indebted to their creditors, both rely on financial voodoo to appear much wealthier than they actually are. Printing more money won't allow them to produce more weapons than Russia does because they lack at least one of those three things listed, switching to a wartime economy would take years and significantly lower the living standards of Europeans and Americans alike.

Are the people of these countries willing to live like working class Africans just to "Stick it to Putin"?

Additionally, any attempt at conversion of the Western privately-owned profit-driven MIC into a state-mandated production-driven fit-for-purpose model (like Russia has) will result in HUGE losses of  earnings for the nebulous web of instituitional capital-owners that form the true ruling elites of the collective West.  The question is what is more influential on the thinking of this class of uber-parasites?  Their desire for financial/economic domination of the planet and its resouirces, or preservation of their money-laundering operation (where money is printed and ploughed into the financial-services casino or the MIC to deliver enormous profits while the public is on the hook for the resulting debt and the elites laugh all the way to Monaco?).

My bet is that our Oligarch class will finally come to realise that Global Domination is simply too risky and likely to fail, and that rather than risk massive losses they will choose to continue to bleed the West dry for as long as they can.  Once the Oligarchs back off then their political puppets will suddenly develop a taste for diplomacy and  the sabre rattling silliness will grind to a halt.  It make a few years however as the greed is strong with these evil fckers.

https://www.rt.com/russia/598299-chernigov-drama-theater-closure/

Ukrainian theater closes after ‘almost all’ male workers are drafted
Mobilization has spared only pensioners and students at Chernigov house of drama, its head has said

The theater, based in a settlement some 125km north of Kiev, had received summonses for 34 of its employees, Andrey Bakirov told the news outlet Suspilne last Sunday.

“Seven actors, two sound engineers, an editor, a violinist,” he noted. Some people on the list were already serving in the military, he added.

Most of those who answered the call have been deemed fit for duty and sent to a boot camp, Bakirov said. A few, including a 56-year-old distinguished actor and a 59-year-old driver, were told to attend an extended medical examination to determine whether the Defense Ministry wants them. Under the new rules, people aged between 25 and 60 are eligible for mobilization.

The only ones left are men of retirement age, a few students, and a 24-year-old actor, who has an exemption from military service, Bakirov added.

Mauro Longobardo, the CEO of a Kiev-based steel plant owned by the international giant ArcelorMittal, told The Financial Times this month that the factory’s existence is at risk due to lack of labor.

He said: “If they continue to mobilize, we will not have enough [staff] to operate.” The company is being forced to give some physically demanding jobs to women in an attempt to stay afloat, he added.

French instructors

Even the 'best' apparently now dying on the front

MD
@distant_earth83
In the Kharkiv region, two militants from the 8th Special Operations Regiment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - Konstantin Mykhailchuk and Denis Bey - have been eliminated.

The 8th Special Operations Regiment, trained by American and German instructors, is one of the most highly trained military units of the Kiev regime.

This punitive regiment, as it has been dubbed in Donbass, has been involved in combat since 2014. Fighters well-versed in deep reconnaissance and NATO DRG practices have carried out numerous terrorist acts in the territories of the Donbass republics. According to some reports, it is the 8th Special Operations Regiment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces that is involved in the killings of commanders Arsen Pavlov (Motorola) and Mikhail Tolstykh (Givi).

Currently, this elite unit of Ukrainian Special Forces, which was trained according to a plan developed by the US Deputy Commander of Special Operations Command Europe Colonel Mark LaRoche, is perishing in the northern Kharkov region, as well as in Avdeevka and Artemovsk.

Source: https://t.me/epoddubny/19999

FPV operator calls in an artillery strike but there is nothing

higurashihougi wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/598299-chernigov-drama-theater-closure/

Ukrainian theater closes after ‘almost all’ male workers are drafted
Mobilization has spared only pensioners and students at Chernigov house of drama, its head has said ...

I see no problem

In ancient Greece men played both male and female roles

Get chicks in costumes and get working

higurashihougi wrote:...
The only ones left are men of retirement age, a few students, and a 24-year-old actor, who has an exemption from military service, Bakirov added...

So only one with the right age for military got to sit it out?

This war still has at least 3 years to go before proper results

Sweden will give Ukraine, among others, ASC 890 early warning aircraft for cooperation with the F-16, AMRAAM missiles. F 16 planes will probably take off from Poland and Romania. NATO is preparing for full-scale war with Russia.

Arrow wrote:Sweden will give Ukraine, among others, ASC 890 early warning aircraft for cooperation with the F-16, AMRAAM missiles. F 16 planes will probably take off from Poland and Romania. NATO is preparing for full-scale war with Russia.

Strong worded warnings coming from Russia soon and no action.

Arrow wrote:Sweden will give Ukraine, among others, ASC 890 early warning aircraft for cooperation with the F-16, AMRAAM missiles. F 16 planes will probably take off from Poland and Romania. NATO is preparing for full-scale war with Russia.

How bunch of F-16 and AEW be interpreted as "Full scale war" ?. a Real Full scale war will include things like NATO incursion from FInland and Baltics, Polish attacking Kalinigrad and such. There will be build up of forces across Finland at least

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Anyway appearance of this Ukrainian AEW will open opportunity tho for Russians to finally put the 40N6 into good use and the R-37's vaunted 400 km range. AEW has to fly high altitude to be viable, there will be no horizon limitations.

First nuk to fly and everyone will know nato is just a US scam to sell weapons to a secured maket for them.

How bunch of F-16 and AEW be interpreted as "Full scale war" ?. a Real Full scale war will include things like NATO incursion from FInland and Baltics, Polish attacking Kalinigrad and such. There will be build up of forces across Finland at least wrote:

Of course, but the F-16 or AEW flights from Poland or Romania should be interpreted as NATO entering the war directly. We are reaching a dangerous situation.

Sometimes the level of stupidity that some "news" made only as a clickbait amazes me.
The same how dumb one must be to suck it.
Erieye is a light, low speed, small range and endurance early warning plane with an astonishing range of up to 300 km.
How in detail will it even work, in a country that is 1000 km wide, and the conflict is being carried at easternmost part?
To make it even work, planes would have to operate 200 km from the Russian border at max, still having very limited coverage.
It's maximal detection range is smaller than Russian missiles, both air and land operated.

There is only one system that would probably cause some headache for the Russkie, which would be a Meteor carrier. Which clearly won't happen.

Every single NATO recon tool is being used at this war, since its beginning. Much more capable, much more serious, much longer ranged.

JohninMK wrote:Even the 'best' apparently now dying on the front

MD
@distant_earth83
In the Kharkiv region, two militants from the 8th Special Operations Regiment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - Konstantin Mykhailchuk and Denis Bey - have been eliminated.

The 8th Special Operations Regiment, trained by American and German instructors, is one of the most highly trained military units of the Kiev regime.
...

Source: https://t.me/epoddubny/19999

Probably the video about it

ALAMO wrote:
They are not.
This infrastructure was built to deal with the nuclear scale of conflict including real superpowers.
How dumb one must be, to believe that a 2m sized drone flying 200+ km/h can do any serious damage to it?
Actually, it is not about being dumb but about being troll.
Azeris were using An-2s as drones years ago, having a stock of some 200 of those.
Filled with 2t of explosives, those were really tool of doom against ill-equipped and untrained Armenians - actually more Karabachs.
Ukrs did less having all that experience and 10x the tools than they have done. Stepenkert waves Azeri flag. 1/5th og Ukraine not so much.

When someone tries (and fails) to break-in through your door, you don't change the door, replace the locks and bar the windows - you get a gun.

There is only one reason to attack your enemy's eyes and ears. Russia must react accordingly.

This M1 seems knocked out by HEAT in the side of the turret.

Arrow wrote:Of course, but the F-16 or AEW flights from Poland or Romania should be interpreted as NATO entering the war directly. We are reaching a dangerous situation.

Dangerous indeed, but not for Russia. If Poland and Romania allow the "Ukrainians" (NATO pilots) to attack Russia or Russians from their airbases, then they'll simply lose those airbases. Article 5 will be screamed out loud as if the US will come running to protect them, they won't. Poland will become the Ukraine 2.0 but without ethnic Russians to hold hostage and use as human shields.

For all the talk of NATO entering the war "directly", nobody seems to want to answer why they haven't until now? If they're more powerful than Russia and could crush them like they did Iraq 1/2, then what the hell are they waiting for? Is it that these countries are afraid of getting wiped off the map if/when they push Russia too far? Even the RAND papers talked about "unbalancing" Russia to make them collapse from within, nothing about "kick Russia's ass on the battlefield and plant the 卐 卐 flag in Stalingrad" because they simply can't.

First nuk to fly and everyone will know nato is just a US scam to sell weapons to a secured maket for them. LIKE1DISLIKE wrote:

Of course. Maybe first they should shoot down US drones flying over the Black Sea conducting reconnaissance in Crimea.

Fuller details of Sweden' gift of gear. The PBV302 has been described as a death trap but at least it means that Sweden doesn't have to scrap them.

Assume the ASC 890 is supplied with crew and a ground station.

Pål Jonson
@PlJonson
Just announced: Sweden will donate a new military capability to strengthen Ukraine’s air defence. Package 16 will be the largest military aid package yet at €1,16bln. Sweden will donate Airborne Surveillance and Control aircraft (ASC 890) to

ASC 890 will provide with a new capability against both airborne and maritime targets. capability to identify targets at long range will be strengthened. They will act as a force multiplier with the introduction of F-16. AMRAAMs will also be donated.



Sweden will also donate its entire stock of armoured tracked personnel carriers (PBV 302) to support the reconstruction of new Ukrainian brigades. Sweden will also donate artillery ammunition and resources for maintenance of previously donated materiel.



Sweden will also deliver surplus tank vehicles from the armed forces, maintenance of previously donated Swedish materiel, financial support to capability coalitions and to funds and temporary initiatives to enable swift and large-scale procurement of materiel to Ukraine.

The Swedish Defence Research Agency will also be tasked with supporting Ukraine in establishing its own defence research institute.

Furthermore, Ukraine’s command and control capability will be strengthened in the package through a donation of terminals with subscriptions for satellite communications.

Photos: The Swedish Armed Forces and Måns Thuresson

Imran Qasim
@imranqasimpti
This package also includes a range of other military equipment such as Armoured Tracked Personnel Carriers, Combat Boats, artillery pieces, main battle tanks, and various anti-tank systems. Sweden's overall military support to Ukraine since the invasion by Russia has now reached a value of approximately SEK 43.5 billion This aid underscores Sweden's commitment to supporting Ukraine's defense and sovereignty

Can't say that China has copied the West with these




Claimed to be newly built Russian version.

If those Swedish light AWACS planes are donated to Ukraine and operates from Ukraine they will be shot down after the first flight.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:If those Swedish light AWACS planes are donated to Ukraine and operates from Ukraine they will be shot down after the first flight.

Probably before the first flight