Russian special military operation in Ukraine #57

Regardings the recent debate about Maidan Kiev's version of M1 Abrams

https://www.facebook.com/K01Archive/posts/pfbid0q2LNeeCNzWT1Q6DFo5JapsLqN1qvN1Kkiwbiktz9JJFd5b4bTaq5tv59U7hmWgotl

This graph depicts the weight of M1 Abrams versions in short tons (not metric tons).

The version that USA supplies Ukraine is M1A1SA, not the most modern M1A2 SEPv3.

However, we can see that the M1A1SA is still relatively "new", it was deployed in 2006.

Second, we can see that, from the graph, M1A2 SEPv3 is much heavier than M1A1SA, but that weight surplus is mostly for increasing the front armour. The weak points and vulnerable sectors of the newest version is the same, unchanged. The engine is also the same.

Therefore, the "older" M1A1SA has a notable advantage in the specific context of Ukraine, is that it is less heavier, allow it to be more moblie and maneuverable, and it allow the Ukrainian armed forces to add applique armour to its weak points and vulnerable sectors.

Which mean, the Abrams version that Russia managed to destroy in Ukraine, is not a 40 years old monkey model, but is the most appropriate and suitable version that USA can supply to Ukraine.

Now in a hypothetical scenario if USA supply the newest version of Abrams which is 80 short tons, and Ukrainian forces still have to add umbrella cages and Kontakt-1 ERA to that heavy monster to cover its weak points. You can see it is a nightmare, but nightmare for Ukrainian armed forces.

Probably it is a proper response for SeigSolovyov.

Link of the graph https://scontent.fsgn5-15.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/445533857_984945846668260_716716773728811937_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_eui2=AeE-VSfFU7bkfBUGmOEeYcVlA0XnjwLWiNQDReePAtaI1JcaNu0LjJUr-EKxeaBCLzckTeB8UuHCvZFWuGHv9wME&_nc_ohc=qvBIt_qSBHIQ7kNvgFLQdgA&_nc_ht=scontent.fsgn5-15.fna&oh=00_AYBVlwhnLmb5nulybGfNvdaXsf_Oqi3S0gatcRzVy6-dHg&oe=66634A68

Stealthflanker wrote:That's kinda pain.  

I mean, you'd think they'd at least come up with some sort of generic excuse

But no it's literally, "everyone's been sent to the front, there is no-one to work on the service"

"Now in a hypothetical scenario if USA supply the newest version of Abrams which is 80 short tons, and Ukrainian forces still have to add umbrella cages and Kontakt-1 ERA to that heavy monster to cover its weak points. You can see it is a nightmare, but nightmare for Ukrainian armed forces."

This is not just Ukraine.

Given the way the battlefield has rapidly evolved over the past couple of years, we can assume that this is also a potential problem for the US Army where they have the M1A2 SEPv3 deployed. What may now be a near 90 ton tank when fully loaded/protected is really going to put some serious stress on the ground and infrastructure like bridges that it has to move over.

They will need lots more battle hardened tank transporters

flamming_python wrote:

Stealthflanker wrote:That's kinda pain.  

I mean, you'd think they'd at least come up with some sort of generic excuse

But no it's literally, "everyone's been sent to the front, there is no-one to work on the service"

This is just the start of the Ukrainian civil society falling apart. Much more to come.

JohninMK wrote:This is just the start of the Ukrainian civil society falling apart. Much more to come.

It's been dead for a while, what you're seeing is an animated corpse making a lot of noise, if you listen closely you might even hear the zombie utter words such as "Slava Ukraini" and "Give us more weapons".

Looks like some s400 or S300 got hit by drones, GMLRS, or ATACMS

More details to follow

Some Russian officers are still Russian soldiers biggest enemy. Tightly grouped convoy 2 kilometers from the border with predictable results.
https://t.me/supernova_plus/32033

Probably accurate if he regards 'incoming' AA and SA missiles as military targets.

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The Netherlands will allow Kiev to use F-16 fighters to attack "military targets" in Russia , announced the head of the Ministry of Defense, Kaysa Olongren.

Arkanghelsk wrote:
Looks like some s400 or S300 got hit by drones, GMLRS, or ATACMS

More details to follow

Russian S-300/400 air defence system battery was targeted by HIMARS in the Belgorod region of Russia:

“The video shows the result of the strike on the S-300/400 air defense system in the Belgorod region.

The strike was carried out using the HIMARS MLRS.

Presumably, without casualties among personnel.

01-02.06.2024”

https://t.me/dosye_shpiona/

Arkanghelsk wrote:


Looks like some s400 or S300 got hit by drones, GMLRS, or ATACMS

More details to follow

Do the components of the battery have to be so tightly group because of technological parameters of the system?

Read with disbelief

lyle6 wrote:
Your cokehead in chief has to beg for scraps from my third world shithole. Your goose is cooked.

It seems like someone has forgot to take his pills today.

JohninMK wrote:Read with disbelief

Fairytales for adults with the reading comprehension of an autistic child.

Those fakes made by ukro psyops is getting dumber with time, as I guess the audience comes along either.

To swallow that, one must be retarded.

"Mighty Ukro special forces are attacking at all fronts, opening guerilla warfare in Syria!"

I am not very good at climate, but does it look similar to you?




Raining in Syria so much, that you need rain boots, standing half feet soaked into mud?



Really?

caveat emptor wrote:

Do the components of the battery have to be so tightly group because of technological parameters of the system?

No

It seems as you mentioned with regard to troops being clustered tightly and columns

PVO officers are just as retarded as Infantry ones

Dispersion and layers of systems like buk m3 and s300V4 goes a long way

Arkanghelsk wrote:

No

It seems as you mentioned with regard to troops being clustered tightly and columns

PVO officers are just as retarded as Infantry ones

Dispersion and layers of systems like buk m3 and s300V4 goes a long way

It was a genuine question. I've never seen a video of S-400 system deployed with components far apart. I thought there is some kind of technical restriction.
As for supply convoy, that was a pure idiocy and incompetence. Especially, after 2+ years of the war.

https://t.me/milinfolive/123395

"Rumors have emerged that a fundamental decision has been made to counter the American strategic reconnaissance UAV RQ-4 Global Hawk operating in the Black Sea region.

These drones, coupled with manned NATO AWACS aircraft, provide constant reconnaissance for the guidance of Ukrainian Armed Forces missiles at targets in Crimea and the Zaporozhye region literally from the first days of hostilities, being in fact direct participants in the hostilities.

However, for more than two years, no adequate action has been taken regarding this problem, despite the growing losses, which we have repeatedly noted in our posts. We hope that the possible solution to eliminate NATO UAVs from Crimea will not remain somewhere in offices, but will be implemented in practice.

In the photo: the record approach of the RQ-4 Global Hawk to the city of Sochi in the Krasnodar Territory, May 29 of this year."

Finally, after more than 2 years of war, they may decide to destroy the US UAVs in response to the shelling of American weapons on Russian territories.

Read with disbelief

ISW - The Institute for the Study of something the dudes there never experienced in their life.
What a clown show.

Fairytales for adults with the reading comprehension of an autistic child.

For the Biden in you. 

opening guerilla warfare in Syria!"

If this were true, it would mean that Syria can send troops to fight Banderites. 

Is this a Ukrainian source?

The sort of source that claims the reason for every fire in some garbage can inside Russia was a special operation
by some very special people.

caveat emptor wrote:Some Russian officers are still Russian soldiers biggest enemy. Tightly grouped convoy 2 kilometers from the border with predictable results.
https://t.me/supernova_plus/32033
.....

I long ago lost track of number of videos of Russian army driving in columns in the middle of a warzone without cover in broad daylight and promptly getting shredded by Ukr artillery

I pretty much considered it to be a form of suicide by cop at this point, they don't strike me as people interested in not getting killed

Only possible consolation would be that they are Wagner traitors but Russians don't strike me as being that subtle or elegant when solving problems

I would imagine that he will spend the rest of his life wishing that the Greater Russia had the death sentence.


Azov commander given life sentence for killing civilians in cold blood

Pyotr Shuflin, commander of a branch of the Azov neo-Nazi regiment, will spend the rest of his life in a special regime colony. The corresponding sentence was handed down by the Supreme Court of the DPR on Monday, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation informs.

The investigation and the court found that in March 2022, Shuflin shot three unarmed men in cold blood on the order of his commander, who were not participants in the armed conflict and did not pose a threat.

http://t.me/ukraine_watch

If the Russian plan was to draw the UA to the north and kill them there it seems to be working.

Note the maximum casualty strategy in the Double Tap.


The Ukrainian Armed Forces intensified attacks on Belgorod after the West allowed attacks on Russian regions.

“The Ukrainian Armed Forces have already attacked the Belgorod region twice with HIMARS. Each time - two waves. The first is high-explosive fragmentation rockets. The second is cassette. With the expectation of an increase in casualties at the point of the intended impact,” the Telegram channel “Operation Z: Military Correspondents of the Russian Spring” wrote.

“The combat use of this type of weapon is impossible without Western military specialists. It is possible to exclude the “independent activities” of the Kiev regime. Apparently, this is an attack coordinated with Western curators. The air defense forces destroyed the shells, but the very fact of the attempted strike suggests that Washington decided to embark on a new round of escalation. This is NATO’s direct participation in hostilities against our country,” says military correspondent Evgeniy Poddubny.

The strikes have become more frequent since Washington gave the go-ahead, but Russian air defense forces have been repelling the attacks. Which confirms the correctness of the plans of the Russian Armed Forces to create a sanitary security zone, military correspondents write. - FRWL reports
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