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    Post  Arkanghelsk Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:05 pm

    https://t.me/RVvoenkor/76197

    The strike on sport palace was apparently Grom E1

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    Post  franco Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:35 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2040 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours...

    Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of repelling the attempted invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the territory of the Russian Federation in the Kursk region (as of September 2, 2024)

    Units of the North group of forces, with the support of army aviation and artillery fire, repelled six attacks by enemy assault groups in the direction of the settlements of Borki, Komarovka, Korenevo and Cherkassk Porechnoye during the day.

    Three attempts of APU attacks in the direction of the settlements of Olgovka and Kremyanoye were also thwarted. The enemy's losses amounted to up to 40 people killed and wounded, an infantry fighting vehicle, two armored combat vehicles and a car were destroyed.

    Reconnaissance and search operations are carried out in the forests to destroy enemy sabotage groups.

    Air strikes, artillery fire and military actions defeated concentrations of manpower and equipment of the 22nd and 61st mechanized, 82nd and 95th airborne assault and 152nd Jaeger brigades, 1st National Guard Brigade and 1004th security Brigade in the areas of the settlements of Apanasovka, Borki, Vishnevka, Gordeevka, Lyubimovka, Lebedevka, Martynovka, Mikhaylovka, Malaya Loknya, 10th October, Orlovka, Plekhovo, Cherkasskoye Porechnoye, Russian Porechnoye, Snagost and Yuzhny.

    Tactical air strikes were carried out in the Sumy region on the areas of concentration of personnel and military equipment of the reserves of the 22nd, 41st and 54th mechanized, 17th tank, 82nd airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 1st Brigade of the National Guard, the 36th Marine Brigade, as well as The 101st, 103rd, 119th and 129th air defense brigades in the areas of the settlements of Belopolye, Basy, Velikaya Pisarevka, Glukhov, Luka, Katerinovka, Orlovka, Svessa, Chervonoprapornoye, Sumy, Khoten, Esman, Yunakovka and Yastrebinoye.

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 350 military personnel and 14 armored vehicles, including an infantry fighting vehicle, an armored personnel carrier and 12 armored combat vehicles, as well as three artillery pieces, three HIMARS MLRS launchers made in the USA, a mortar, two Buk-M1 air defense missile launchers, a mobile control point of the Buk-M1", a HIMARS MLRS transport and charging vehicle, a Buk-M1 air defense system transport vehicle, a US-made AN/TPQ-50 counter-battery radar and 12 vehicles.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 8,900 troops, 80 tanks, 38 infantry fighting vehicles, 70 armored personnel carriers, 549 armored combat vehicles, 261 vehicles, 65 artillery pieces, 19 multiple rocket launchers, including 6 HIMARS MLRS and two MLRS, 7 anti-aircraft missile launchers complexes, two transport-charging vehicles, 14 electronic warfare stations, 7 counter-battery radars, air defense radars, 6 units of engineering equipment, including two engineering barrier vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearance unit.

    The operation to destroy the AFU formations continues.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12527590@egNews

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    Post  franco Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:38 pm

    Some may have noticed but I only post these if the total of casualties is above 2,000. Today totals are close, either the Ukrainians are running short or the Russian forces need a break.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:30 pm

    The series of tests of the FAB-3000M54 with UMPK will be completed in the near future and will be delivered to combat regiments, where the flight crews of bomber aviation are eagerly awaiting them.

    It is important to note that new UMPK-PD ("Increased Range") on FAB-500M62 have also entered service. Due to the increase in the wing, the range of these bombs has increased many times over.

    This allows for a significant expansion of the bombers’ capabilities to hit targets located at a great distance, and most importantly, without flying into the enemy’s air defense zone.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:35 pm

    WTF is this? AI? It seems to carry a lot of fuel.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Sep 02, 2024 6:52 pm

    Ussia used the atypical weapon "Grom-E1" for the first time during the attack on Kharkov, - Mayor Terekhov

    This is a hybrid of a missile and an aerial bomb. Apparently, the strike was carried out on the Trade Center, captured by militants of the 3rd assault brigade and turned into a military facility, or on the Sports Palace, which was converted into a Ukrainian Armed Forces base.
    - RVvoenkor

    Kh-36 Grom-E1 - AS-23 tactical cruise missile derivative/AGM with 120 km range
    Kh-36 Grom-E2 - AS-23B/KAB-type guided glide bomb with 50 km range.

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Mon Sep 02, 2024 7:39 pm

    Kiko wrote:Dunno where to insert this so I'll put it here:

    Fled Liberals Repeat Traitors' Path, by Dmitry Gubin, political science, for VZGLYAD. 09.01.2024.


    https://vz.ru/opinions/2024/8/31/1284513.html


    Voskoboinik was an ethnic Ukrainian. Despite formally designated as "Russian" there were many other ethnic Ukrainians in the RONA.

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    Post  Kiko Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:17 pm

    "Dropshot 2.0": Russia under attack, by Victoria Nikiforova for RiaNovosti. 09.02.2024.

    The Kyiv regime's leaders have brought to their American masters for approval a "list of priority targets in Russia" for strikes with long-range Western weapons. The masters are pretending that they are not ready to approve it.

    In fact, this show has long been boring. It is the Americans who provoke the VSAU to new attempts at escalation. In this way, NATO military personnel study our defense, probe our air defense and missile defense systems. In this way, they are trying to prepare for a major war against Russia. That is why they supplied their protégés with intelligence data on the eve of the attack on the Kursk region , and only the complete failure of the Ukrainians in this direction forced them to distance themselves from this enterprise: we, they say, knew nothing, it was all Zelensky.

    The strikes of long-range Western weapons on our peaceful cities have been carried out by the VS for a long time now, so all the antics of the Americans are completely pointless. The citizens of Russia clearly see who their main enemy is. Washington will not succeed in screwing them in the style of "we fight here, we don't fight here, we wrap fish here".

    There is nothing new in the fact that the Americans are studying the list of targets on our territory. And it does not produce any special psychological effect on the Russians. The Second World War had not yet ended when the Americans developed the Dropshot plan - also with a list of targets in our country, which they were going to bang with nuclear weapons.
    And at that time, the USSR did not yet have nuclear weapons.

    Dropshot has existed for many years, and as the nuclear arsenal expanded, new targets were added to it - Moscow , Leningrad , Kiev , other cities with a population of over a million. Now we are not talking about nuclear weapons, they plan to strike with conventional missiles, but the general style is quite recognizable.

    Will long-range strikes help turn the tide of hostilities in Ukraine? Western military analysts believe that this is absolutely impossible. Neither Ukraine nor NATO has the resources to disrupt our supply chains and weapons production. To carry out a full-fledged invasion, it would be necessary to begin a ground operation with hundreds of thousands of fresh fighters after massive bombing, which we also do not have.

    To expect that the murders of our peaceful people will force us to surrender and beg for mercy is absolute idiocy. Until now, everything was the other way around - the more brazen the terrorist attacks were, the harsher our military responded, destroying the Ukrainians' energy and infrastructure, destroying the personnel and command staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine . Society fully supported our army in this - both with its hard-earned rubles and with a kind word - and united in response to new challenges.

    Americans can turn to their own historical experience. At one time they brutally bombed North Korea and North Vietnam, but did they achieve much? They portrayed themselves as bloodthirsty killers, yes, but they were unable to break the spirit of the people and ultimately lost.

    In military terms, such adventures are dangerous for NATO members because the Russian army adapts to new challenges very quickly. The "Hymars" were a serious threat at first, but now we have learned to fight them. The first drones were also an unpleasant surprise, but today we are shooting them down in flight - the night before last we shot down 158 of them at once, this is simply unimaginable efficiency.

    It turns out that, by trying to learn our military capabilities, NATO is enriching our army with combat experience, preparing it for future confrontations. And here they should ask themselves whether such an escalation is dangerous for them.

    Politically, the long-range strikes are intended to incite public discontent and lead to a change of power in the Kremlin.
    However, in recent years, the political landscape here has changed quite a lot - and it is precisely due to American efforts. Liberalism has become simply a dirty word - today it hides cowardly scoundrels who, from emigration, mock our dead and dream of entering Moscow in tanks.

    The supporters of "Western values" turned out to be ordinary policemen who are destined for the gallows. By the way, they went berserk precisely because they see that they have no prospects of coming to power in Russia in a normal way, only on the bayonets of the invaders. But then again, there are no bayonets, and accordingly, there is no one to stir up a Maidan.

    Brutal terrorist attacks, paid for and organized by the American side, naturally led to the fact that there are simply no pro-American politicians left in Russia. Somehow they did not take root here. So the political outcome of any attacks on Russia will be the exact opposite of what was intended.

    Note to Washington: all attempts to break us always lead to the opposite result. Today, farmers and brokers, office plankton and workers of " Uralvagonzavod ", housewives and philosophers, cleaners and oligarchs, financiers and bloggers - all one hundred and forty-five million Russians understand that the Americans want to kill them with the hands of Ukrainians. That they are on the list of "priority targets" of Washington. That Dropshot 2.0 is being composed against them. And they will take to the streets in your favour? Are you serious?

    Unlike the US , where elections have taken on the character of mafia showdowns, Russia has a normal democracy, the power of the people. And even when other leaders come to power during the elections, they will pursue the same policy as today, but they will only act even more harshly and mercilessly, because this is what our society demands.

    And don't say then that you weren't warned.

    https://ria.ru/20240902/udar-1969833525.html

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    Post  pavi Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:25 pm


    As the warhead types for Iskander were not revealed to this day, I guess we are seeing some specific sort on payload made either for penetration or higher descend speed.
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    Maybe smaller warhead for longer flight range?

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    Post  Hole Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:26 pm

     either the Ukrainians are running short
    Not short, but faster. Away.  Wink


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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:25 pm

    JohninMK wrote:You have to ask why it tool so long to hit what are clearly significant targets? It is not as if they are short of aircraft.

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    ❗As a result of night strikes on targets in Kiev the following were hit:

    - facilities of the Artem state enterprise, one of the key manufacturers of missile weapons;

    - UAV storage and production facilities on the territory of the Antonov state enterprise, the main manufacturer in the field of aviation equipment.

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    Its escalatory tit for tat.  You hit our industry, we wipe yours off the face of the earth.  Sadly, escalatory tit for tat only works if you are dealing with a foe who is fairly rational and sober minded.  Nazis are irrational and Zelensky isn't called Cocainsky for nothing.  To be sure, its not how I would not have done this war.  Unlike some of the doomers and doomsdayers here who seem to want nuclear fueled global extinction almost as badly as those in Washington, London, Warsaw, and Kiev do, I don't want nuclear war, unnecessary civilian dead, or other crimes against humanity, but bridges, rail yards, and railroad stations, power plants, gas pipelines, munitions dumps, all factories, government buildings, hotels (verified to house NATO troops), internet and cellphone towers, newspaper printers, and television and radio stations, are all fair game.  Any building, structure, or bit of civilian or military infrastructure either restored, rehabilitated, rebuilt, or constructed from 1917 to 1991 should be decommunized courtesy of the Russian air force and strategic rocket forces.  This utterly prevents them from waging war on territories they and Russia consider Russian, it greatly hastens the end of the war, it spares civilians, and it sends NATO notice that Moscow isn't playing around.


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    Post  Arkanghelsk Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:38 am

    https://t.me/kalibrated/13588

    Nevelskoye pocket collapsing

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:17 am

    Further advances across the main road to Ugledar. The noose is closing. thumbsup

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    Post  nomadski Tue Sep 03, 2024 8:42 am

    Deforestation by fire ! Yes good plan . The weaker party rely on disorganised hit and run ( and hide ) tactics . The Orcs , as they loose composure , will rely more and more on fighting in smaller groups , not holding territory . Did they attack in Africa ? lol1

    Can Russia keep up the fight ? Yes it can . It can do this for a few more years . But Ukraine already lost half of it's population ! It can not keep up the fight ! The other half of the population may become refugees too ! This is possible .

    What is not possible , is for these populations to live in the same country . They both need their own country . If anything remains of Ukraine , then it can only exist as a game reserve for endangered and protected species .

    Plenty of room for Russia to make further moves . Plenty more it can do . To the last Ukrainian , it could be . They could all go Germany , they will find plenty of people of like mind live  there ( taking cold showers  ) .True alternative for Germany .
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:47 am

    Poetry in motion

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    Post  Mir Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:59 am

    To get back to current affairs.
    The real story behind Ukraine in three minutes.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:05 pm

    Are you suggesting giving up territory to waste a little bit of the enemy's money?

    My personal opinion is that there are parts of present day Ukraine that are inhabited by vermin that don't deserve to be called Russians and can be let free to flee to the west once it can be assessed that they are not wanted for any of the recorded war crimes on the books.

    Hitler didn't want the Russian parts of Poland, I don't think Putin wants the western parts of Ukraine.... Putin has a fairly solid record of letting the people decide about their future and until the four regions of Ukraine voted to join the RF they were going to be returned to Kiev in the peace agreement because Putin had no intention of seizing those areas if the people living there didn't want that too.

    Thank goodness that western pig headedness over Bosnia and Kosovo means territory not world recognised isn't unusual... it is actually becoming quite common, so Russia does not need to care about the west not recognising the truth on the ground.

    The self isolation of the west from Russia means the opinions and views of the west become less and less relevant as Russia has less and less to do with western countries, so pressure to please the west by offering parts of western Ukraine to Poland or Hungary to get some sort of border agreement becomes less likely.

    Putin is a negotiator and there are things Poland and Hungary might want that might solve some problems for Russia too... it is rather complex.

    You have to ask why it tool so long to hit what are clearly significant targets? It is not as if they are short of aircraft.

    I would suspect they were waiting for these targets to become lax and lazy and they are likely running extra shifts to get all the work they want to do get done, which makes them a more attractive target... hitting buildings is one thing, but also getting part of the skilled workforce is an extra blow.

    WTF is this? AI? It seems to carry a lot of fuel.

    The Orcs have a big drone they called Baba Yaga, which has six or 8 propellers and is a farm drone used for heavier tasks... I rather suspect this is one of those and instead of dropping insecticides or fertiliser, it is probably dropping incendiary material like red iron oxide... or other metal... normally called thermite.

    This is a hybrid of a missile and an aerial bomb. Apparently, the strike was carried out on the Trade Center, captured by militants of the 3rd assault brigade and turned into a military facility, or on the Sports Palace, which was converted into a Ukrainian Armed Forces base.
    - RVvoenkor

    Kh-36 Grom-E1 - AS-23 tactical cruise missile derivative/AGM with 120 km range
    Kh-36 Grom-E2 - AS-23B/KAB-type guided glide bomb with 50 km range.

    It is the body of the Kh-38 missile where the longer ranged model has a bomb payload and a solid rocket motor to extend glide range. The shorter ranged missile has the rocket fuel replaced with more HE and it is just a slim glide bomb with more boom on impact.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:26 pm

    https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1830929660613423339

    As a result of a Russian missile attack on the territory of the Institute of Communications in Poltava, 180 people were injured, 41 people are currently known to have died, - Zelenskyi

    Some sources say dozens of Ukrainian soldiers died. Some sources say hundreds.

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    Post  franco Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:29 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2410 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including...

    Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of repelling the attempted invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the territory of the Russian Federation in the Kursk region (as of September 3, 2024)

    Units of the North group of forces, with the support of army aviation and artillery fire, repelled five attacks by enemy assault groups in the direction of the settlements of Borki, Maryevka, Kamyshevka and Cherkassk Porechnoye during the day. Attempts of attacks in the direction of the settlements of Komarovka, Korenevo and Olgovka were also thwarted. The enemy's losses amounted to up to 25 people killed and wounded, two armored combat vehicles and three cars were destroyed.

    Air strikes, artillery fire and active actions of troops defeated concentrations of manpower and equipment of the 22nd and 61st mechanized, 80th, 82nd and 95th airborne assault and 152nd Jaeger brigades, the 1st brigade of the National Guard and the 1004th brigade of protection and support in in the districts of the settlements of Apanasovka, Borki, Vishnevka, Viktorovka, Gordeevka, Kositsa, Krasnooktyabrskoye, Knyazhiy Pervy, Kurilovka, Lyubimovka, Martynovka, Mikhaylovka, Malaya Loknya, Novoivanovka, Orlovka, Plekhovo and Snagost.

    Reconnaissance and search operations are continuing to identify and destroy enemy sabotage groups in the forests that tried to penetrate deep into Russian territory.

    Tactical air strikes were carried out in the Sumy region on the areas of concentration of personnel and military equipment of the reserves of the 22nd, 41st and 61st mechanized, 80th and 82nd airborne assault brigades, 92nd assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 101st, 103rd, 119th and the 129th Air Defense brigades, as well as the 1st and 17th brigades of the National Guard of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Belopolye, Vorozhba, Velikaya Pisarevka, Glukhov, Miropole, Novaya Sich, Novoivanovka, Pavlovka, Pustogorod, Pogrebki, Starye Verki, Stukalovka, Sumy, Khoten and Yunakovka.

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to 400 military personnel and 12 armored combat vehicles, as well as three artillery pieces, one MLRS launcher, an anti-aircraft missile and cannon complex combat vehicle, an electronic warfare station, 12 vehicles and two units of engineering equipment.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 9,300 soldiers, 80 tanks, 38 infantry fighting vehicles, 70 armored personnel carriers, 561 armored combat vehicles, 273 vehicles, 68 artillery pieces, 20 multiple rocket launchers, including six HIMARS MLRS and two MLRS manufactured by the United States, eight launchers anti-aircraft missile systems, two transport-loading vehicles, 17 electronic warfare stations, seven counter-battery radars, two air defense radars, eight units of engineering equipment, including two engineering barrier vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearance unit.

    The operation to destroy the AFU formations continues.

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    Post  Mir Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:21 pm

    franco wrote:Some may have noticed but I only post these if the total of casualties is above 2,000. Today totals are close, either the Ukrainians are running short or the Russian forces need a break.

    It was a short break Laughing

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:29 pm

    NATO has taken over the entire territory of Sweden and Finland. Its only fair that Russia takes over ALL of Ukraine.

    Are you people implying that Russia is the same crap as NATO, a thug that going around and use violence to take land from others ?

    This is not the Russia I know.

    You think that you are supporting Russia but your argument is an insult to Russia.

    I remember somebody just have mentioned that the Global South is looking at the action of Russia to see whether Russia is the new future for them, or Russia is just another shit like USA. Please take that to your mind.

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    Post  lyle6 Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:34 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Are you people implying that Russia is the same crap as NATO, a thug that going around and use violence to take land from others ?

    This is not the Russia I know.

    You think that you are supporting Russia but your argument is an insult to Russia.

    I remember somebody just have mentioned that the Global South is looking at the action of Russia to see whether Russia is the new future for them, or Russia is just another shit like USA. Please take that to your mind.
    NATO is a hostile offensive alliance - never was used for defense in all of its history in fact. Hostile offensive alliances have only one use for countries on Russia's periphery - as springboard for attacks and destabilization attempts. Either these countries rid themselves of NATO and pledge to neutrality, or they get that land taken from under their feet.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:11 pm

    lyle6 wrote:Either these countries rid themselves of NATO and pledge to neutrality, or they get that land taken from under their feet.

    Destroying the puppet regimes installed by NATO does not mean taking the land of these countries.

    Crimea and the Donbass provinces pledged to join Russia by a referendum and Russia did not "take land".

    By this time Ukrainian people have realized that the NATO dream is a piece of crap already, and what prevent them from act is the military dictatorship of Zelensky imposing over their head.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:29 pm

    Hoooolly shiiiet ... Shocked

    A few Iskanders arrived at Poltava communication forces training center ...
    Cocainsky already cries about 40+ KIA and 180+ WIA ...
    If that is scale admitted by him - the real one must be devastating.

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