Russian special military operation in Ukraine #61

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Looking at those photos, to the stuff that wasn't damaged wasn't even targeted but what was is completely reduced.

Considering it was only one missile but set off an explosion that massive, doesn't somehow make it a nothing burger.

Frankly all I see are cheerleaders try to use pics to suit their narrative.

Fact is what was lost was a lot of expensive missiles, the Russians arrested some guys so corruption is alive and well.

Their AD failed to intercept a single missile, of this was a saturation attack it would have been understandable. But it wasn't, when you cannot protect critical infrastructure from one missile then you have a massive problem

Attention attention, defeatist propagandist and pro western agitator sieg heil has the facts y'all.  Yes, the leading western Cheerleader -and you can tell because he has more jizz on his face than a college cheerleader after the big home coming rally - seems to know things that have not exactly been made privy to the public of Russia or the west.  Fact is that a lot of expensive missiles are gone, says who, what is the evidence? Twitter, Tiktok and the British Press (wanting war with Russia since 1813) are not reliable sources.  After all in Serbia in 1999 they told us that Milosevic woke up to some very bad news, he had lost over 100 tanks that night and yet when the war was over all but 6 Serb tanks left Kosovo under their own power and the Telegraph Stripping Pole never issued a redaction with explanation.  

Corruption is alive and well in Russia?  Errrr mah gawwwww its really over now!!!!! Russia has corrupt generals and politicians and they are unique in all the world in this except for the United States whose Pentagram has not passed an audit since the Roosevelt Administration aka before it was the Pentagram.  Ukraine is the most corrupt state on the planet.  As far as corruption in Russia, its not really a game changer or deal breaker, Russia has a looooooong history of corruption.  Peter won wars despite of it.  Alexander I did too.  Stalin did.  Putin will too.  

AD failure? Do we know for sure if it was a single missile? Do we know what it was?  When the story first broke it was a single drone, then it was drone saturation, then the drone became several missiles and then one missile.  Do we even know what it was?  So cheerleader, pick up the pompons and give me an I give me a HAVE give me NO give me a Clue, put it all together and tell me what you have.

Hit thier industry then.

The best way to hit their industry is to reduce gas and oil exports and to put sanctions on all western countries for Uranium and Nickle and Titanium.

Looking at those photos, to the stuff that wasn't damaged wasn't even targeted but what was is completely reduced.

Well DUH... open storage of rockets or missiles doesn't require a nuclear weapon to destroy it... you start the chain reaction and it essentially destroys itself.

The fact that such a massive amount of explosives went up all at once and the new section of the ammo dump is still intact suggests it did its job.

Now I agree the Russians have a problem because their ammo dumps are vulnerable because they are full. HATO ammo dumps couldn't be destroyed like this because they are EMPTY.

Considering it was only one missile but set off an explosion that massive, doesn't somehow make it a nothing burger.

More likely a single drone snuck through... I would doubt HATO missiles could reliably penetrate Russian air defences at all.

Still might have been sabotage.

Frankly all I see are cheerleaders try to use pics to suit their narrative.

Pro western nazis would berate people for posting the truth by an independent source that does not feed their delusions.... Moscow is burning don't you know...

Fact is what was lost was a lot of expensive missiles, the Russians arrested some guys so corruption is alive and well.

We don't know what blew up... it might have just been dumb HE bombs ready to be moved to airfields and then have their glide kits attached.

The fact that there will be an investigation means corruption will be diminished in Russia... in comparison it is ignored in the west... and swept under the carpet... and goes from strength to strength...

Their AD failed to intercept a single missile, of this was a saturation attack it would have been understandable. But it wasn't, when you cannot protect critical infrastructure from one missile then you have a massive problem

We don't know what it was, but your wild speculation is just being inflammatory... but that is normal... the Navalny brigade jumping on the bandwagon of hate... is the solution fire Putin still?

Ironic because the solution from the Russian perspective is to keep those in power in power in the west because every action like this makes it easier to convince Russia and Russians that the west is the enemy and the less Russia has to do with the west the better it is for Russia and Russians.

lyle6 wrote:They are. But limiting access to cheap Russian energy and mineral feedstocks has done multiple times more damage to NATO industry than any kinetic action launched thus far.

And that, they actually did to themselves.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Looking at those photos, to the stuff that wasn't damaged wasn't even targeted but what was is completely reduced.

Considering it was only one missile but set off an explosion that massive, doesn't somehow make it a nothing burger.

Frankly all I see are cheerleaders try to use pics to suit their narrative.

Fact is what was lost was a lot of expensive missiles, the Russians arrested some guys so corruption is alive and well.

Their AD failed to intercept a single missile, of this was a saturation attack it would have been understandable. But it wasn't, when you cannot protect critical infrastructure from one missile then you have a massive problem

Well we don't know what the nature of the attack was yet, it's all just unconfirmed reports, some in contradiction to one another

Nor do we know what was destroyed

Although the scale of the explosion does make me suspect rocket fuel was involved as how can mere shells create such an inferno so rapidly?

Ironically the only things we know for sure come from various videos and the post match satellite photos... the videos are grim, but no civilian casualties so that is a plus, and the satellite photos actually look rather good in terms of what was destroyed and what withstood a near nuclear looking blast from close range without collapsing and going up too.

flamming_python wrote:
Well we don't know what the nature of the attack was yet, it's all just unconfirmed reports, some in contradiction to one another
Nor do we know what was destroyed
Although the scale of the explosion does make me suspect rocket fuel was involved as how can mere shells create such an inferno so rapidly?

Well, we do know - there is an official statement.
Four drones, two of them destroyed, and two passed through.
We can see at least one documented downed, falling in flames.
Which suggests that they were only intercepted at the approach.
If you investigate Maxxar pics, there is one storage location clearly detonated, with two others questionable - which corresponds perfectly well with the official statement.
Even Russkie AD can be penetrated, if there is enough effort put for the purpose.
And I am pretty sure that the whole planning was carried out in some other place rather than Kiev ...
I was guessing some fuel was involved, too - the event is quite similar to some I remember from the past when some ICBM detonated at a storage location.
The only thing that I found really funny, is our doomers who crawled out at the very first blick of the light - and how shockingly most of them came from a small but charmful shithole in the Balkans
Just one more lesson that it is really much better to shut the fuk up until the situation clears out - but they will just ignore this lesson as every single one they get

SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Their AD failed to intercept a single missile, of this was a saturation attack it would have been understandable. But it wasn't, when you cannot protect critical infrastructure from one missile then you have a massive problem

Oh, right - I forgot this dumbass.
Listen up, you moron ...
If you had been smart enough only to watch the documented material, you should have seen a drone falling in flames.
Which already places you into a position of knowing shit - still yapping.
As usual
Your pathetic THAAD and Patriots have been removed from the scene when a fukin flip flops beat the shit out of your best ally of Saudi, failing to hit shit.
Just get your tail under the ass and run away to avoid further humiliation.
Yet you consider yourself in a position to comment on the mightiest AD system on the planet, that proved interception rates better than claimed in commercials?
Really?!?    
STFU, for Marxists god's sake ... Just STFU.

>mushroom clouds touch the stratosphere with very minimal drift. Exactly what happens when you blow up dispersed caches of explosives some stored underground even.
you got nuked bro. even did it to an ammo dump for plausible deniability - for both sides.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Looking at those photos, to the stuff that wasn't damaged wasn't even targeted but what was is completely reduced.

Considering it was only one missile but set off an explosion that massive, doesn't somehow make it a nothing burger.

Their AD failed to intercept a single missile, of this was a saturation attack it would have been understandable. But it wasn't, when you cannot protect critical infrastructure from one missile then you have a massive problem

We don't know what was targeted.

I read that it was a 6 munition attack and 3 got through.

Frankly all I see are cheerleaders try to use pics to suit their narrative.

Said the guy who creates lies to suit his own narrative...

Nobody's Crimea: Kyiv betrayed by its closest allies, by Victoria Nikiforova for RiaNovosti. 09.20.2024.

MOSCOW, September 20 — RIA Novosti. Radek Sikorski's statement at first evokes nothing but healthy laughter. Speaking at the Kiev get-together "Yalta European Strategy," the Polish Foreign Minister proposed placing Crimea under a UN mandate.

Seriously, he just said it: "We could put it under a UN mandate with a mission to prepare a fair referendum after checking who the legal residents are and so on..."

Of course, Crimea is ours and Sikorski can shove any mandate into his pocket, but his train of thought is characteristic. First, he comes to the Ukrainians at a forum where everyone is "booming and bashing" about the territorial integrity of Ukraine . Then he takes the floor and tells the hosts to their faces that Crimea is symbolically important for Russia and, well, let's hand it over to the UN. He suggests making the peninsula no one's for twenty years, and then holding an "honest" referendum there.

But Ukraine has no chance of winning this referendum. We all saw in 2014 what huge queues Crimeans stood in to make their choice - to be with Russia. But at that time Ukraine was quite a decent country, some kind of economy, the Nazis were not so fierce yet, the nightmare of May 2 in Odessa had not yet happened . By the way, observers and journalists came from the West, everyone saw how the Crimeans wanted to return home.

There is nothing left of the Ukrainian economy now, and to go back there would be to collapse your standard of living and fall into a financial abyss - as we know, "the deepest of all abysses." However, that is not even the point. Crimeans understand perfectly well what attitude they will be treated in Ukraine - it was formulated most honestly by the mayor of Dnepropetrovsk Boris Filatov : "You need to give the scum any promises... And then you need to hang them."

That is, if translated from diplomatic language into human language, Sikorski simply suggested that Ukrainians forget about Crimea. Whose Crimea is it? - Nobody's. But this is a de facto capitulation. The Kiev regime set as its goal to return Russia to the borders of 1991. And the entire West unanimously supported this idea - and the Poles were the most active of all. So why this sudden turnaround?

Moreover, Sikorsky always speaks not only on his own behalf, but as the husband of his wife. His wife Anne Applebaum is not just a prominent American propagandist. She is flesh and blood of the US deep state , and one of the most inveterate hawks. The American elite speaks through her lips, and Sikorsky's lips are simply a transmission link. And so, it turns out, the American masters are kicking Kiev not just to the negotiating table, but to capitulation. And what happened? What happened to the face, as they say?

Obviously, the threat of the collapse of the Ukrainian front, on which our troops have been advancing non-stop for several weeks, has become absolutely real - Zelensky may ignore it, but professional American military personnel see it well.

There is no mobilization reserve - the CIA statistics just published show that Ukraine is depopulated and there is no one to fight. The morale of the population is below the plinth - they thought to raise it by attacking the Kursk region , but instead they only killed their soldiers and the population became even sadder. It is a matter of a short time - when all this will fall like dominoes.

Washington is faced with the unpleasant prospect of getting itself a new Afghanistan with disgrace before the whole world. Another hasty evacuation, again natives clinging to the chassis in panic, a military failure, general confusion and a fierce, demonstrative defeat that will demonstrate to all countries in the world that there is no need to fear the Americans, but their proxies must be beaten. And all this right before the presidential elections.

And then Trump comes out, all in white, and declares: "Well, I told you so!" And the Americans elect him president. No, no, this is not the scenario that the US Democratic Party, for which Anne Applebaum has worked her entire life, needs. The Americans need to urgently jump off Ukraine and forget it like a bad dream. That is why Sikorsky makes his amazing statement.

Of course, the Poles have their own interests here too. If the Ukrainians are running out, then someone has to come to replace them - at least, this is what European leaders have said more than once. So who will they push into the line of fire? Of course, the Poles and the Balts who have joined them. It is not the French who are going to sit in the trenches with the Germans. The Poles have felt the prospect of falling under the Russian "Solntsepyok" or FAB very vividly, and they clearly do not like it. They do not want to die for the Kiev regime there.

Moreover, disagreements between Kiev and Warsaw have already accumulated beyond the brim. There are disputes about the Volyn massacre, and Kyiv's threats to stir up rebellion among the Ukrainians who fled, and Warsaw's desire to dump all the "newcomers" on the front, and rebellions by farmers who do not want to let cheap Ukrainian grain into the country. Over the past few months, the leaders of the two countries have been arguing like crazy.

It is impossible to take Sikorsky's proposal regarding Crimea seriously, but it is noticeable that, having fallen into zugzwang, the American masters are literally kicking Kiev to the negotiating table. In Nezalezhnaya, they also understand this very well - Sikorsky's phrase has become the number one news item there. Of the leadership, only Andriy Yermak has responded so far , muttering on social networks that "Crimea is Ukraine." Well, never mind, his senior comrades, I think, will explain everything to him.

Moscow tirelessly conveys its position on Ukraine to Western leaders. For those who are particularly slow to understand, the Russian Armed Forces explain it. Their combined efforts have already succeeded in bringing Kyiv's Western masters from the stage of anger and denial to the stage of bargaining. But it is better to hurry - each subsequent proposal from Moscow will be worse for them than the previous one.

https://ria.ru/20240920/krym-1973751819.html

Kursk region. A commander of the legendary 810th Marines tells Sladkov that Ukraine's manpower losses in Kursk are 6:1 in Russia's favor, and their vehicular losses are 30:1 in Russia's favor (4:10 of video).

What is happening in the sector of responsibility of the 810th Marine Brigade of the Black Sea Fleet?

1. The enemy has been stopped, his attempts to find our weak points and counterattack are unsuccessful. And we are steadily moving forward, cutting through the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
2. The enemy's losses in personnel (in relation to our losses) are 1 to 6, the enemy is losing equipment, in relation to our losses 1 to 30.
3. Our main task is to accept and destroy the enemy's reserves, maneuvering, not allowing him to dig in.

High losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region force them, when urgent tasks arise, to consolidate the remnants of their battalions into one, to maintain combat readiness. The enemy has no order to retreat, has lost the initiative.
Having up to 30,000 in his group in his best moments, the enemy has proven to have lost more than 30% killed.

It is encouraging: payments for destroyed enemy equipment are being made accurately. This is a conversation for the 810th brigade. Even a common phrase of drones was born: "I'll go pay off the mortgage."

https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1836840137277460565

Zelensky has exchanged a ghostly peace for an endless war, by Gevorg Mirzayan for VZGLYAD. 09.20.2024.

It is quite symbolic that "victory" in Zelensky's understanding is now an endless war with constant escalation. Adapting to the West's understanding of the impossibility of a military victory over Russia, Zelensky suggests that the Americans and Europeans simply wage war.

The Kiev regime is losing the war. And not only on the ground, but also on the airwaves, where it seemed to have dominated the last two and a half years. Now its meetings with Western leaders are becoming less frequent, and American media outlets are writing alarmist articles about the state of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And not in the style of “give them weapons and everything will be fine,” but “Ukraine cannot win this war, so something must be done.”

And the most unpleasant thing for the head of the Kyiv regime is that he is also losing in determining “what to do.”

For almost two years, the entire collective West recognized the so-called 10-point Zelensky peace formula as the only basis for negotiations. Simply put, a demand for Russia to sign a capitulation that would include the transfer of Russian territories to the Kyiv regime, pay reparations, introduce at least partial external management, etc. At the time of the plan's presentation (fall 2022), it seemed realistic - Moscow suffered a defeat in the Kharkiv region and was forced to temporarily (and in the West, forever) leave the north of the Kherson region.

However, it has already become clear that it will not be possible to achieve Russia's capitulation. Moreover, the adoption of this platform as the only possible one nullifies any diplomatic efforts - not only to resolve, but even to freeze the conflict.

And then alternative plans emerged, proposed by the countries of the Global South – China, Brazil, India. They are based on a solution to the conflict on, essentially, Russian terms. That is, not just a ceasefire, but also taking into account Russia’s security interests (that is, Ukraine not joining NATO), lifting sanctions, etc. It is not surprising that these proposals are attracting more and more attention from those countries that are tired of the conflict. And not only from the East, but also from the West. And if some European countries can still ignore the conditional Chinese-Brazilian initiative, then, for example, the Indian one, built on approximately the same principles, cannot (since the US gave India the go-ahead for peacekeeping efforts in order to legitimize New Delhi, not Beijing, as the leader of the Global South). Even Germany – one of the leaders of the anti-Russian campaign – after the defeat of the ruling coalition in the elections in the eastern lands, is beginning to think about ending the war as soon as possible on terms acceptable to Russia.

Naturally, neither Berlin, nor Washington with its Indo-Chinese games, nor India and China themselves take into account the interests of the Zelensky regime in their initiatives – the very one that can only exist if the war continues. Volodymyr Zelensky understands perfectly well that any compromise will be made at his expense. That the start of any serious negotiations will take place on the condition of his removal from the post of president (at least because his term has expired and he does not have the right to the presidential signature – and Moscow does not intend to sign empty papers, the validity of which can be challenged by any future head of the Ukrainian state). Therefore, losing the war of plans with his “peace formula”, Zelensky decided to take revenge with a “victory plan”.

Zelensky did not voice the exact content of this plan (he is going to present it to the Americans first, and only then tell his own citizens), but from the words of the head of the Kyiv regime and various leaks, its difference from the “peace formula” becomes clear. It is quite symbolic that “victory” in Zelensky’s interpretation is now an endless war with constant escalation.

Adapting to the West's understanding of the impossibility of a military victory over Russia, Zelensky suggests that the Americans and Europeans simply wage war. Not sit down at the negotiating table and not make any concessions to Moscow. Instead, pump Ukraine with weapons and money - that is, formally speaking, commit to arming and sponsoring the Kiev regime for an indefinite period. Well, and also give it complete and absolute carte blanche for any actions - from shelling the "old" territory of Russia with long-range high-precision missiles to actions that fall under the definition of nuclear terrorism.

For his part, Zelensky offers, firstly, full responsibility. That is, Ukraine will be ready to call these acts of terrorism and strikes its own decisions – and receive retaliatory strikes from Moscow. Secondly, he offers the political will to fight to the last Ukrainian – as Vladimir Putin once correctly noted, the Ukrainian leadership behaves “like foreigners or aliens,” and not like a national elite. The goal of this leadership is not national well-being, but an ideological struggle against Russia, multiplied by personal guarantees of a safe and well-fed life in the West after the end of the conflict.

And finally, the Ukrainian mobilization resource offers. Yes, millions of people have fled Ukraine – but millions remain. There are still enough men there to grab them off the street and send them to the front lines – and there is also enough fear and servility not to resist these seizures en masse. Therefore, if the regime in Ukraine holds out (that is, gets enough money and weapons), it will be able to resist for a long time.

It is clear that this plan is designed for Western "hawks". That part of the American and European establishment that is not ready to admit its defeat in Ukraine - but at the same time is not ready to send NATO divisions to defend Kharkov and Kyiv. Zelensky offers them hope - hope that in the course of a long-term conflict, Russia will eventually break. Morally or physically break, after which it will be ready to seek peace with the West on Western terms.

A so-so hope, of course. But the globalists, who do not want to admit their defeat, will, according to Zelensky, cling to this one.

https://vz.ru/opinions/2024/9/20/1288115.html

Killers of American volunteer Russell Bentley found. They turned out to be Russian Armed Forces servicemen

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Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (for the period from September 14 to September 20, 2024)

From September 14 to 20 this year, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 27 group strikes with precision weapons and unmanned aerial vehicles, as a result of which energy facilities that provided the work of enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, the infrastructure of military airfields, UAV storage sites and their pre-flight training were hit. In addition, ammunition depots and logistics facilities, repair bases for the restoration of weapons and military equipment, a military echelon with foreign weapons, as well as temporary locations of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, nationalist formations and foreign mercenaries were affected.

During the week, the units of the North group of forces continued to carry out an operation to destroy the AFU formations in the Kursk region. During the offensive, the settlements of Uspenovka and Borki were liberated. Air strikes, unmanned aerial vehicles and artillery fire on the areas of concentration of personnel and equipment of three mechanized, tank, two airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and two air defense brigades thwarted attempts to conduct counterattacks and enter enemy reserves. Formations of the motorized infantry brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a marine brigade and three air defense brigades were defeated in the Volchansk and Liptsovsky directions. During the week in the area of responsibility of the North group of forces, enemy losses amounted to 3,510 military personnel, 18 tanks, including one Leopard tank manufactured by Germany, 117 armored combat vehicles, 66 vehicles, two multiple rocket launchers, including MLRS manufactured by the United States and 34 field artillery guns. Four electronic warfare stations have been destroyed.

During the week, the units of the Zapad group of forces continued to advance into the depth of the enemy's defense, defeated the formations of six mechanized, assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, three air defense brigades and the Azov special forces brigade. They repelled 24 counterattacks by the assault units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The enemy lost over 3,745 troops, a tank, 10 armored combat vehicles, including an M113 armored personnel carrier made in the United States, as well as 60 vehicles. In addition, 40 field artillery guns were destroyed, including 19 units of 155 mm howitzers and self-propelled artillery units transferred to the Armed Forces by Western countries, 16 electronic and counter-battery warfare stations, 22 field ammunition depots.

As a result of the decisive actions of the units of the "Southern" group of troops, the settlements of Zhelannoe Pervoye and Georgievka of the Donetsk People's Republic were liberated. The manpower and equipment of five mechanized, motorized infantry, two infantry, mountain assault, two airborne assault and three airmobile brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were defeated. 14 counterattacks by enemy assault groups were repelled. The AFU lost over 4,855 servicemen, a tank, two Marder infantry fighting vehicles manufactured by Germany, 52 vehicles and 34 field artillery guns, 17 of them produced by NATO countries. Four electronic warfare and counter-battery warfare stations were destroyed, as well as 11 field ammunition depots.

The units of the Center group of forces have actively improved the position along the front edge. They defeated the formations of the tank, six mechanized, two infantry, two jaeger, airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, three air defense brigades, the National Guard brigade and the assault brigade "Lyut" of the National Police of Ukraine. We repelled 58 counterattacks by enemy assault groups. During the week, the losses of Ukrainian formations in this area amounted to 3,610 military personnel, a tank, 11 armored combat vehicles, including a German-made Marder infantry fighting vehicle and two M113 armored personnel carriers manufactured by the United States, 21 vehicles and 29 field artillery guns.

The units of the Vostok group of forces occupied more advantageous lines and positions. They defeated the manpower and equipment of the tank, mechanized, motorized infantry brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the defense brigade. We repelled 11 counterattacks by AFU units. The enemy lost up to 735 soldiers, two tanks, seven armored combat vehicles, 16 vehicles and seven field artillery pieces.

Units of the Dnepr group of forces defeated formations of the mechanized, infantry, mountain assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two marine brigades and four air defense brigades. The losses of the Armed Forces amounted to 355 soldiers, two tanks, 27 vehicles and five field artillery pieces. Four field ammunition depots were destroyed.

The Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed three fighters of the Ukrainian Air Force in air battles: MiG-29 and two Su-27.

During the week, air defense means shot down: a MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian air Force, seven ATACMS tactical missiles manufactured by the United States, 12 guided Hammer bombs manufactured by France, 42 HIMARS rockets manufactured by the United States and 305 unmanned aerial vehicles of the aircraft type, including 153 outside the zone of a special military operation.

During the week, 53 Ukrainian servicemen surrendered on the line of contact.

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 646 aircraft, 283 helicopters, 31,806 unmanned aerial vehicles, 579 anti-aircraft missile systems, 18,303 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,457 multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles, 1,4903 field artillery and mortars, 26,289 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12529946@egNews

Russian MoD reporting 16,810 Ukrainian casualties during the past 7 days.

Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of repelling the attempted invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the territory of the Russian Federation in the Kursk region (as of September 20, 2024)

The units of the North group of forces continued their offensive operations, during which they defeated the formations of the 22nd, 41st and 115th mechanized, 17th tank, 82nd airborne assault brigades and the 1st Brigade of the National Guard, as well as the 112th and 129th brigades of the territorial The defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Lyubimovka, Darino, Zeleny Shlyakh, Nikolaevo-Darino, Tolstoy Meadow, Malaya Loknya and Plekhovo.

Over the past day, the units of the group have thwarted attempts of enemy counterattacks in the direction of the settlements of Kremyanoye, Lyubimovka and Malaya Loknya.

As a result, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost up to 30 people killed and wounded, two armored combat vehicles, a self-propelled artillery installation 2S1 "Gvozdika" and three cars were destroyed.

With the support of army aviation and artillery fire, four attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to break through the border of the Russian Federation in the direction of the settlements of Novy Put and Medvezhye were repulsed.

The enemy lost up to 60 personnel killed and wounded, two tanks were destroyed, including the Leopard tank, three Swedish-made CV-90 infantry fighting vehicles, four armored combat vehicles and an engineering barrier vehicle.

Air strikes, artillery fire and troop actions defeated concentrations of manpower and equipment of the 21st, 22nd, 41st and 115th mechanized, 17th Tank, 80th and 95th airborne assault brigades, 36th Marine Brigade and 1st Brigade the National Guard, as well as the 103rd and 129th territorial defense brigades in the areas of the settlements of Bogdanovka, Guevo, Darino, Zeleny Shlyakh, Kremyanoe, Kubatkin, Kruglenke, Kurilovka, Lyubimovka, Mikhaylovka, Malaya Loknya, Mirny, Melovoy, Novy Put, Novaya Sorochina, Novoivanovka, Obukhovka, Plekhovo, Tolstoy Meadow, Cherkasskoye Porechnoye and Cherkasskaya Konopelka.

Tactical aviation and missile forces attacked the areas of concentration in the Sumy region and the reserves of the 21st, 22nd, 41st and 115th mechanized, 82nd and 92nd airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 1st Brigade of the National Guard, as well as the 103rd and 106-th brigade of territorial defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of settlements Basovka, Belovody, Glukhov, Zhuravka, Kondratovka, Kazachye, Katerinovka, Mogritsa, Obody, Pavlovka, Peremoga, Rechki, Rudnevo, Sumy, Shalygino, Khoten and Yastrebinoe.

During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 370 military personnel and 18 armored vehicles, including two tanks, four infantry fighting vehicles and 12 armored combat vehicles, as well as 6 artillery pieces, a mortar, an electronic warfare station, an engineering mine clearance vehicle, and seven vehicles. One pontoon ferry was destroyed.

In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 15,300 troops, 124 tanks, 56 infantry fighting vehicles, 93 armored personnel carriers, 780 armored combat vehicles, 471 vehicles, 115 artillery pieces, 28 multiple rocket launchers, including seven HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, 8 anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, four transport-loading vehicles, 29 electronic warfare stations, 7 counter-battery radars, two air defense radars, 15 units of engineering equipment, of which 9 engineering barrier vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearance unit.

The operation to destroy the AFU formations continues.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12529938@egNews

franco wrote:Killers of American volunteer Russell Bentley found. They turned out to be Russian Armed Forces servicemen

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I do wonder what his opinion on Russians was as they were torturing him to death

Don't go to foreign wars, kids no matter how much you like one side

It never ends well

Not sure if the UA stocks were mentioned when the NATO tank supplies were mentioned previously.

In case not this is a view. Maybe 1500 operational?

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PapaDragon wrote:
I do wonder what his opinion on Russians was as they were torturing him to death

He had been in Donbas from the very beginning, so it was unlikely that he could not have known that many criminal groups were profiting from the war. So he probably just got into a story with the theft of volunteer aid - one of many that happens there.
Again, these degenerates turned out to be dumb enough to attack the media personality. Now they will spend the next 10-15 years in a maximum security prison. From what the Investigative Committee says, most likely they did not want to kill Russell, so they shat themselves to such an extent that they clumsily tried to hide the trace of their crime. After that, they were taken like rabbits when they didn't even try to run, knowing full well how fucked up they were.
By the way, why should Russell suddenly think badly of the Russians if the whole situation was never connected with the Russians?

PapaDragon wrote:I do wonder what his opinion on Russians was as they were torturing him to death

Don't go to foreign wars, kids no matter how much you like one side

It never ends well

Well Russian Armed Forces servicemen, but basically the same DNR fighters, now inducted into the Russian military since 2022.
And Russell Bentley knew them well enough, he had been fighting/volunteering there since 2014.
The suspects and victim must have known each other, if I had to hazard a guess.

Among all the drama queens - here and on other resources: I have not seen a single assumption that would be reasonable regarding Russia's possible response to allowing long-range strikes with NATO-made missiles.
Putin, by the way, said almost in plain text: Ukraine cannot launch these strikes without the help of satellite reconnaissance and guidance.
So what the **** are NATO bases in Poland or anywhere else?
In the case of long-range strikes on Russian territory, the NATO satellite reconnaissance group will most likely be destroyed as a retaliatory measure.
This is not a strike on the territory, so it does not carry the risk of nuclear war. On the other hand, how can the NATO bitches respond? Cry out loud?

Yes, by the way, about what is not verbalized in the media either. When Tucker Carlson interviewed Putin, he unequivocally pointed out the need to return some Russian agents who are in prisons in the West... in exchange for their agents in Russia.

What do you think happened next?
Oh, yes - that's exactly the kind of exchange. Among other things, the very people Putin was talking about were returned to Russia.
This sends a very clear signal - there, in the West, they are trying to complete the settlement through diplomacy, not war.
And they never do that if the force is on their side.

JohninMK wrote:Not sure if the UA stocks were mentioned when the NATO tank supplies were mentioned previously.

In case not this is a view. Maybe 1500 operational?

latti71
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T-64 – approximately 1,500 units  
T-72 – approximately 1,000 units  
T-80 – approximately 400 units  
T-84 – approximately 200 units  
BM Oplot – approximately 100 units

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I think those figures are way too optimistic?
According to ISS in 2022:

T-64 – 720 + 578 in storage = 1298
T-72 – 133 + 500 in storage = 633
T-80 –  only 34 units and all in storage at the time
T-84 and Oplot – extremely small number in service - thought to be only 5
They also had 20 T55 in storage

You can then add all the T-72 imports and a small number of captured T-80's and a couple of T-90's as well.

Very few of the above are probably still operational.

Sometimes earlier , I argued against concrete bunkers for planes . I was thinking that these structures , being above ground , can not withstand a direct hit from something like a cruise missile , with 500 kg , conventional warhead . My thinking was , first to move planes back and second to move them continuously . I heard that Ukraine may have used their new jet powered drone ? What size warhead can it carry ? 500 kg ? Are these munition bunkers designed to withstand a 500 kg direct hit ? If not then , they are sub-standard . Because 500 kg , is about the minimum air dropped bomb size . Also these bunkers should be completely underground .

Having looked at a you-tube video , by maxar satellite images . Of the hardened bunkers , forty of them , about sixteen were completely destroyed . These may have contained expensive Rockets . The storage buildings to the North of area , was completely destroyed . As was the storage sheds to the West of this area . Buildings in these areas must have contained explosives , and destroyed by spreading fires .

Comparing other ammo depot fires , there is a distinct lack of ammo cooking- off and flying in all directions . That is what we should see . But what we see , is a near simultaneous large explosion . Looking at some of the craters , they look very large and singular . Again not what we expect . What we should see , are many missiles being thrown about and then shallow and smaller craters . One or two craters in the open and outside a bunker  , have diameter , the size of a bunker  ? No drone or missile could make such large crater , be it by a missile landing , or one exploding in the ground . Ordinary drones can not destroy hardened bunkers . Hardened bunkers show many singular hits and explosions . Single drone could not cause this damage .