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    Post  nomadski Sun Sep 22, 2024 2:05 am


    Well obviously the Orcs , using western help , can manage to hit hardened shelters up to range of 300 km ? No good resting on your laurels and saying we have plenty of depots . If what you post is true , and Russia has plenty of bunkers in the East , then moving ammo out of bunkers within range of Orc and NATO guns in the West , into the Eastern bunkers should be done . And stuff from Eastern bunkers moved to new shelters or Road / Rail tunnels or subways . Only stuff saved for NATO , needs to be in bunkers . Stuff for Ukraine , does not need to be stockpiled . It can go straightforward from factory to frontline on wheels .

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    Post  kvs Sun Sep 22, 2024 2:39 am

    There is another relevant axis that should be considered and that is the level of protection at these sites. The most recent "success" of
    the Kiev regime failed to destroy any of the new weapons bunkers.

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    Post  Arrow Sun Sep 22, 2024 6:34 am


    Another ammunition depot.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:18 am

    and?
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    Post  Arrow Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:28 am

    I am providing information. It seems that Ukraine has targeted ammunition depots. It will not change much, although the Russians are also suffering losses because of it. War The West is trying all means to slow down the Russians.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:22 am

    Well obviously the Orcs , using western help , can manage to hit hardened shelters up to range of 300 km ? No good resting on your laurels and saying we have plenty of depots

    The nazis just burned up 100s of drones that were probably quarter of a million dollars each if they are western drones, I would say letting them focus on Arms depots that are protected is better than having them attack civilian targets.

    Use the situation to work on defeating drone attacks and developing technology and tactics and training to deal with such attacks.

    It will not change much, although the Russians are also suffering losses because of it. War The West is trying all means to slow down the Russians.

    That would be a problem if their attacks and progress on the front line was hindered by the losses and that does not seem to be the case.

    Unlike Kiev they are not withdrawing trained soldiers from the front line to protect these potential targets from enemy drone attack, so this is not effecting the war in any way that could be considered useful for Kiev.

    The attacks in response, however, like attacks on electrical infrastructure etc will do more damage to Kiev.

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    Post  Mir Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:27 am

    Arrow wrote:I am providing information. It seems that Ukraine has targeted ammunition depots. It will not change much, although the Russians are also suffering losses because of it. War The West is trying all means to slow down the Russians.

    Well one must give credit when credit is due. 404 has finally started after years of conflict to prioritize legitimate military targets and not civilians. Neutral

    They must have realized that their defeat is imminent.

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Sep 22, 2024 11:40 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    They blew up what amounts to 3 days of ammo - at best. When Russia has deep stockpiles of that are 2 OOMs more at least.

    You are that simple.
    Its actually worse. Word on the grapevine is the hohols blew up expired ammo stocks destined for destruction anyways, the Russians having long since pillaged everything that is remotely fireable from the site.

    That explains the lack of air defense coverage or any other precautionary measures...


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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:11 pm

    The cumulative effects of Russian attrition with the added UA stupidity in Kursk are starting to show more clearly.

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    Very interesting. Today was one of the largest advancement days in weeks/months. Russian forces advanced in virtually every front. Some advancements in:
    1. Robotino
    2. Urozhayne  below
    3. Up north in Kupyansk
    4. Major advances in Toretsk and Nelipovka area
    5. Ukrainsk - Kurakhove area

    One of the reasons is Syrsky began to desperately pull forces from Zaporozhye to reinforce crumbling lines in Pokrovsk and Kursk.
    Now Russians are taking advantage in Zaporozhy eand apparently beginning to make moves which could be precursors to larger attacks there soon.

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    Russian tactic has changed.
    There are no longer any inescapable fortress ( Bakhmut,Avdiivka )
    We will see less frontal assault  and more bypass and encirclement.
    Fewer Russian casualties, more Ukr prisoners and less destruction.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:25 pm

    I'm sure that this isn't what LM/Ratheon had in mind. If the capability of the missile in a real war situation, as per Ukraine, is as implied this must be worrying for those analysts in NATO that see and appreciate the operational implications. As opposed to those on the LM/R gravy train who have a different objective to operational effectiveness. Rolling Eyes

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:46 pm

    Another one shot only needed, making supply and retreat more difficult.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:51 pm

    A member of a previous generation of German leaders who had a far closer connection to the brutal reality and depth of Russian power.

    Former German Chancellor advises those who believe victory over Russia is possible to revisit history — Die Welt

    ▪ Speaking at an event, Gerhard Schröder stated that Russia cannot be defeated militarily.

     
    ➖ "I advise everyone who believes in this [victory over Russia] to look at history textbooks."

    ▪ Schröder believes that the West is underestimating the potential for escalation in the Ukraine conflict.

    ▪ He also claims the West is ignoring Russia's historically justified security interests.

    ▪ The former chancellor now places his hopes for peace on Donald Trump’s potential return to power in the U.S., believing Trump still cares about Europe.

    Source: RVvoenkor


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    The recent visit of Scholz to Kazakhstan lead to categorical response from Tokaev on question regarding present conflict in Ukraine: Russia is invincible.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 22, 2024 2:00 pm

    The corruption in Kiev has moved to a new level. Now it seems that the Fallen have to bribe their way to a place to lie in peace.

    Ukrainian military personnel have complained about a “funeral mafia” in Kiev.

    According to their reports, police officers who protect one of the cemeteries are demanding $2.5 thousand from relatives of dead soldiers for permission to bury them.



     - FRWL

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 22, 2024 2:10 pm

    No real road left to escape on. Looks like a long walk out over the fields for those Aidar Nazis.

    "Vuhledar will soon be encircled": Russian forces have crossed the Kashlagach River west of Vuhledar, threatening to trap Ukrainian troops.

    ➖ "This means the city will soon be surrounded. The chances of holding positions under such conditions aren't promising, especially considering the enemy's attempts to advance towards the Bohoyavlenka-Vuhledar road," wrote S. Bunyatov, a well-known fighter of the "Aidar" battalion.

    ❗ "At some point, we will either have to leave the city or face encirclement," he emphasized.

    ▪ "I hope the top leadership is relying not only on reports from local commanders, which may be outdated, but also on external sources," the "Aidar" fighter added.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 22, 2024 2:25 pm

    Confirmation from the top in Kiev, as if we needed it, that NATO is deeply involved. Probably to a 'partner' command cell conveniently located in the safety of the US embassy.

    Umerov admitted that Kyiv reports to the West on the planning of Ukrainian Armed Forces operations

    📝 “When we explain our plan for an offensive, counteroffensive or defensive operations, we always explain the goals, what forces and means we will use to do this, so that our partners are aware of this,” the head of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry told the Rada TV channel.

    Ostashko reports



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    Right hand (MI6/CIA) tells the Left hand (SBU/AFU) what they have to do.
    Left hand talks to the Head (Nato in Ramstein) what they are going to do.
    The Head (NATO) plans whatever must be planned & prepared, then gets PR (NGO/NAFO) ready - only then it's a go

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    Post  franco Sun Sep 22, 2024 2:50 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2170 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including;

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 380 military personnel and 11 armored vehicles, including two tanks and nine armored combat vehicles, as well as three artillery pieces, an electronic warfare station, an engineering mine clearance vehicle and 14 vehicles.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 16,000 troops, 126 tanks, 57 infantry fighting vehicles, 95 armored personnel carriers, 795 armored combat vehicles, 492 vehicles, 124 artillery pieces, 29 multiple rocket launchers, including eight HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, eight anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, five transport-loading vehicles, 31 electronic warfare stations, seven counter-battery radars, two air defense radars, 17 units of engineering equipment, Of these, 10 engineering barrier vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as an armored repair and evacuation vehicle.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12530188@egNews

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    Post  kvs Sun Sep 22, 2024 3:06 pm

    JohninMK wrote:A member of a previous generation of German leaders who had a far closer connection to the brutal reality and depth of Russian power.

    He is still singing from the same BS NATzO choir sheet. Russia has more than just "security concerns". Ethnic Russians in the concoction known
    as Ukraine have intrinsic rights. The ICJ at the Hague clarified those rights in 2008. You never hear a single reference to those rights in the
    NATzO information space. But in 1999 all you heard was a wailing about precious "Kosovars" and their rights. NATzO essentially invaded Serbia in
    1999 on this pretext of saving Albanians even though Albanians totally dominated the situation in Kosovo. Yet now NATzO 100% ignores and denies
    the rights of ethnic Russians who have been under attack by ethno-fascist Banderites since 2014 (and before).

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    Post  Kiko Sun Sep 22, 2024 3:32 pm

    Russia Has No Alternative to Victory in Ukraine Conflict - Kremlin, 09.22.2024.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Russia has no alternative to achieving victory in its military operation in Ukraine, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.

    "For Russia, there have been no other alternatives in history, and there is no alternative to our victory now," Peskov said in an interview with Russian journalist Pavel Zarubin published on his Telegram channel.

    Russia should regard the West's stance seriously, given its intentions to defeat the country both "strategically and tactically," the spokesman added.

    "They openly say that their goal is to defeat Russia strategically and tactically. This obliges us to take this position very seriously, to shape our actions in consideration of this threat and to continue the special military operation in order to achieve all our goals, fulfill all set objectives and achieve victory ourselves," Peskov said.

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240922/russia-has-no-alternative-to-victory-in-ukraine-conflict---kremlin-1120245072.html

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:06 pm

    JohninMK wrote:I'm sure that this isn't what LM/Ratheon had in mind. If the capability of the missile in a real war situation, as per Ukraine, is as implied this must be worrying for those analysts in NATO that see and appreciate the operational implications. As opposed to those on the LM/R gravy train who have a different objective to operational effectiveness. Rolling Eyes

    Illiterate Iraqis were machining and assembling shaped charges from scrap metal and scavenged explosives...

    This one just trashed $80k worth of missile because he couldn't.

    Is this the vaunted Ukrainian technical expertise at work? Razz

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    Post  kvs Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:49 pm

    Iraqis weren't brainwashed that they were ubermenschen. Unlike the 1930s German variety, the Ukr type does not even have the tech and
    industrial base as en excuse to get high on itself.

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    Post  kvs Sun Sep 22, 2024 4:54 pm

    NATzO propaganda endlessly yaps about Putin's bluffing. Russia needs to call NATzO's bluff and hard. These clowns are not able to wage
    conventional war on Russia and they will not launch a nuclear war since it means that they will be deleted. The only way that they would
    launch a nuclear war is if they have some way to effectively compromise Russia's nuclear arsenal. Via infiltration or some technical means.
    It is extremely unlikely that they have such capability at present. They did not even have it in the 1990s when their comprador stooge
    Yeltsin was in power and gangster-oligarch Berezovsky was in charge of the state security council.

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    Post  lyle6 Sun Sep 22, 2024 5:07 pm

    kvs wrote:Iraqis weren't brainwashed that they were ubermenschen.   Unlike the 1930s German variety, the Ukr type does not even have the tech and
    industrial base as en excuse to get high on itself.  
    Oh but the name fits. Hohols find themselves working as Uber drivers in Europe and America more often than not. Can't see why we shouldn't call them as such. Razz

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:08 pm

    Arrow wrote:I am providing information. It seems that Ukraine has targeted ammunition depots. It will not change much, although the Russians are also suffering losses because of it. War The West is trying all means to slow down the Russians.

    Meh - Shoigu said it best - 15 thousand tons is a day for troops

    This is not even a drop in the bucket lmfao

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:08 pm

    Looks like Zaporozhye NPP is safe - Ukrainians are gone and gone to Kursk lmfao

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    Post  Mir Sun Sep 22, 2024 8:24 pm

    Looks like now that 404 has finally "mastered" the art of flying the F-16, they are now begging for the Eurofighter and the Gripen! Laughing Laughing  Laughing  

    https://sputnikglobe.com/20240922/ukraine-negotiating-with-west-on-deliveries-of-gripen-and-eurofighter-jets-1120245967.html

    Ukraine expects to receive two more fighter jet types, the Gripen and Eurofighter, from its Western allies, and negotiations are currently underway, Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov said.

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