Russian special military operation in Ukraine #61

ucmvulcan wrote:Attack Belarus?  They would literally have to be suicidal to do that.  

These imbeciles are under the delusion that Russian forces are "stretched". This is why the staged the Kursk suicide operation as they were anticipating Russian forces
being redeployed. This Belarus BS is more of the same. I guess the NATzO advisers who are managing the Ukr campaign are high on crack.

kvs wrote:

ucmvulcan wrote:Attack Belarus?  They would literally have to be suicidal to do that.  

These imbeciles are under the delusion that Russian forces are "stretched".   This is why the staged the Kursk suicide operation as they were anticipating Russian forces
being redeployed.   This Belarus BS is more of the same.   I guess the NATzO advisers who are managing the Ukr campaign are high on crack.

My educated guess is that they want to involve NATO (North American Terror Organization) and start WWIII... French president was ready to send troops to Odessa if Russians are close enough.



Ukraine complains about Iskander missiles with a range of 750 kilometers
Alexey Moiseev

Ukrainian media write that Russian Iskander operational-tactical missiles have become even more long-range and are capable of hitting targets located 750 kilometers from the launch point.

https://rg.ru/2024/10/04/na-ukraine-pozhalovalis-na-iskandery-biushchie-na-750-kilometrov.html

Whah, whah ... baby not happy. These f*cks want to use "long range" (less than 600 km) missiles to attack Russia and are now crying about Russia having missiles that
it can use to mince them up nice in response.

Once RT became available , I thought " what a breath of fresh air ! " I also felt that it was too much , that it gave too much information to the proles . I thought it would be stopped , at not too distant future . And it was stopped . I have the same feeling about you tube and even Google and internet . National internets are needed . I predicted that missiles that fail to explode or are intercepted , will expose their secrets . UAV are even worse , and designers can ensure that when engine cuts off , then electronics gets fried by thermite . As Ukrs fail to fight a regular war , they will increasingly fight a dispersed and disorganised fight . Yes they fight in Africa or Syria , or now Belarus ! And to combat this ? Do we send several armed brigades of Tanks ? No , there is a need for rapid reaction forces , smaller units . In the limit , a few armed police to arrest the terrorist  hiding in a school .

are high on crack.

They got a new stuff, called crockium.

French president was ready to send troops to Odessa if Russians are close enough.

The last time the French send troops to Russia, the whole affair ended with Russian troops in Paris.
Which resulted in the invention of the Bistro.

Russian Armed Forces Advance Northwest of Ugledar in DPR - Defence Ministry, 10.07.2024..

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Russian troops of the Vostok ("East") group of forces have advanced northwest of Ugledar (Vuhledar) and in the area of ​​Vesyoloye (Vesele), approaching Bogoyavlenka (Bohoyavlenka) in the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), the Russian Defense Ministry reported on Monday.

"Units of the 'Vostok' group of forces continue to push back the enemy and exploit their success. Some of them have advanced northwest of Ugledar and in the area of ​​Vesyoloye, approaching Bogoyavlenka," the ministry said in a statement.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20241007/russian-armed-forces-advance-northwest-of-ugledar-in-dpr---defense-ministry-1120451548.html

News of the hour:

Last night, the Russian army struck targets in the Kiev, Kharkov, Sumy, Dnepropetrovsk and Khmelnytsky regions of Ukraine, as well as in the parts of the DPR and Zaporozhye region occupied by Kiev; train traffic was stopped in the Kharkov region after a KAB bomb hit;

Russian Kinzhal hypersonic missile has been shot down over Kiev, city military administration claimed;

In the city of Feodosia in Crimea, a fire started after a sea oil terminal was hit;

Russian troops continue to advance in the center of the city of Dzerzhinsk (Toretsk), Russian military channels informed;

Russian troops advanced in the village of Kamenskoye on the banks of the Dnieper river in the Zaporozhye region;

The US will likely delay the shipping of the military equipment to Zelensky regime due to inventory shortages, CNN reported quoting US officials.

http://T.me/ukraine_watch

Russian Kinzhal hypersonic missile has been shot down over Kiev, city military administration claimed;

Could have been more use back home!

Israel has handed over an early warning system for air attacks to Ukraine

This was announced by the Israeli ambassador to Ukraine Brodsky. According to him, Tel Aviv has fulfilled everything it promised.

@ukr_leaks_eng

JohninMK wrote:Could have been more use back home!

Israel has handed over an early warning system for air attacks to Ukraine

This was announced by the Israeli ambassador to Ukraine Brodsky. According to him, Tel Aviv has fulfilled everything it promised.

@ukr_leaks_eng

Israel shouldn't give away what it needs itself, judging by events over the previous week

During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 150 servicemen, three armored combat vehicles were destroyed, as well as two artillery pieces, four mortars and two cars.

In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 21,000 troops, 136 tanks, 66 infantry fighting vehicles, 98 armored personnel carriers, 888 armored combat vehicles, 586 vehicles, 173 artillery pieces, 33 multiple rocket launchers, including eight HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, nine anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, five transport-loading vehicles, 45 electronic warfare stations, nine counter-battery radars, three air defense radars, 22 units of engineering and other equipment, of which 13 engineering barrier vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as three armored recovery vehicles.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12532005@egNews

Dnepropetrovsk region is being prepared for the arrival of Russian troops, by Anastasia Kulikova for VZGLYAD. 10.07.2024.

The construction of new lines of defence in the rear of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was considered a sign of panic.

After the loss of Ugledar, the Ukrainian Armed Forces began to build another line of defense. This time, the enemy is trying to dig in at the junction of the Dnipropetrovsk region and the DPR. The expert community doubts the success of the idea. How will the new defensive lines affect the course of military operations?

The Ukrainian Armed Forces are creating new lines of defence on the border of the Dnipropetrovsk region with the DPR, as well as directly in the Krasnoarmeysk (Pokrovsk) area. According to Ukrainian media, fortifications are being erected for the first time on the road to the Dnieper. Presumably, the fortifications will be located between two important settlements: Mezhevaya and Slavyanka.

“Judging by the map of fortifications that are being urgently completed west of the current line of combat contact (LBC), the Ukrainian Armed Forces are very much afraid of flank attacks, with the help of which Russian troops took most of the cities after the fall of Avdiivka,” writes the industry Telegram channel “Military Chronicle.”

According to analysts, if Pokrovsk falls to the borders of the Dnepropetrovsk region, the Russian Armed Forces will have about 15 kilometers to go. At the same time, it is impossible to talk about the quality of the hastily erected fortifications by the enemy, since there are not as many capital concrete structures as was initially thought.

The situation of the Ukrainian military in this direction has significantly worsened after the liberation of Ugledar by the Russian military. As Reuters reported , the Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Alexander Syrsky, gave the order to strengthen the defense in the territories controlled by the DPR immediately after the surrender of the city. Even then, it was reported that Pokrovsk was the most strategically significant.

Let us recall that last week the Ministry of Defense reported the liberation of Ugledar. The Vzglyad newspaper described in detail how exactly this event would affect the situation at the front. In particular, experts noted that now the Russian army has much easier access to Novoukrainka, Bogoyavlenka, Yekaterinovka and Yelizavetovka.

"Pokrovsk is one of the most important logistical hubs of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The loss of this city will disrupt the connectivity of all positions of the Ukrainian army. Therefore, the enemy intends to hold the settlement as long as possible," said Boris Rozhin, an expert at the Center for Military and Political Journalism.

He specified: for this purpose, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are trying to hastily strengthen the field fortifications in the Pokrovsk area. "We are talking about building both fortifications for defense and additional positions beyond the settlement in case it is lost and the Ukrainian military has to retreat," the speaker detailed.

The analyst recalled that Kyiv had transferred units to the city from other directions, and this step had somewhat slowed down the advance of Russian troops. However, the enemy will face a number of problems, including the quality of the fortifications being erected, as well as reserves. "The Ukrainian Armed Forces have difficulties with personnel. Therefore, the question arises: who will occupy these field fortifications?" Rozhin noted rhetorically.

The same applies to additional strongholds being built in the Dnipropetrovsk region. "When the Russian army liberates Pokrovsk, there will be an option to advance in the direction of not only Zaporizhia, but also Pavlograd, a key settlement in the Dnipropetrovsk region from the point of view of logistics of the Ukrainian Armed Forces," he explained. "Therefore, the goal of the defensive lines is to cover Pavlograd, among other things." By the way, on the night of Monday, the Russian Armed Forces struck Pavlograd with the forces of the Iskander operational-tactical complex.

At the same time, if the Ukrainian Armed Forces dig in on the border between the Dnepropetrovsk region and the DPR, there is no point in talking about the security of the latter.

"The shelling of Donbass will continue. Therefore, reaching the border of the Donetsk Republic will not mean that our troops will stop there. For example, in the interests of ensuring the security of the Belgorod region, military actions are being conducted on the territory of the Kharkov region. I think the same will happen in the case of the Dnepropetrovsk region," Rozhin believes.

Moreover, if the SVO is continued in this direction, the Russian Armed Forces will be able to advance into the Dnepropetrovsk region not only from the territory of the Krasnoarmeysky district. "It would be possible to advance from the south, but the enemy occupies the northern regions of the Zaporizhzhya region, and this section of the front is still at a standstill. Theoretically, if we break through the line in this direction and occupy, for example, Gulyaipole, and then develop the advance to the north, we can reach the border," the analyst specified.

"The enemy has not built serious fortifications in the Dnipropetrovsk region. Yes, there are certain fortified areas, but they are not as large-scale as in Donbass. If the threat to the Ukrainian Armed Forces increases, they will try to strengthen the eastern and southern regions of the region. But this is a long-term prospect, because Russian troops still have work to do in the DPR and Zaporizhia region," concluded Rozhin. The urgent construction of defenses by the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the border of the Dnipropetrovsk region indicates that the enemy objectively sees the trends, military analyst Mikhail Onufrienko agrees.

“In Kyiv they understand that their armies will continue to retreat,” he specified. Against this background, the interlocutor recalled an article in The New York Times, which said that the Ukrainian Armed Forces hope to wear Russia down with a strategy of slow retreat. "An extremely frank material about the goals the West sets for Ukraine. As part of the implementation of this task, apparently, the decision was made to build fortifications already deep in the defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces," Onufrienko believes.

However, the enemy's retreat does not fully guarantee the safety of the liberated territories, since the shelling will continue. "As our leadership said: the more long-range weapons systems the Ukrainian army has, the further we will have to move the front line," the source recalled, adding that this is what the Russian Armed Forces are doing.

Onufrienko also believes that advancing to the Dnipropetrovsk region would look logical from the Zaporizhzhya direction and from the Krasnoarmeysky area. "But if we set a task not local - the liberation of part of some territory controlled by Kiev - but the liquidation of the Ukrainian regime, then there are significantly more directions here. For example, if we push the enemy out of the Kursk region, nothing prevents us from launching an offensive to the south, liberating the Sumy region, pushing the enemy away from our northern borders. Our hands are untied," the analyst emphasized.

Meanwhile, according to Vladimir Rogov, Chairman of the Commission of the Public Chamber of Russia on Sovereignty Issues, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are hastily building lines of defense not only on the border of the Dnipropetrovsk region with the DPR, but also in the Orekhov district of the Zaporizhia region, as well as in close proximity to the city of Zaporizhia.

Moreover, this process is accompanied by corrupt machinations. “The Ukrainian side brings ready-made concrete reinforcements to some sites for digging into the ground, while in others the concrete is poured on site. Enormous amounts of money are stolen, since the purchase is carried out without any tenders or competitions,” the source specified. “At the same time," the Ukrainian command is in a state close to panic," Rogov emphasized. He explains: Kyiv understands that the front can collapse, and this will give Russian troops operational space for tens of kilometers. "If we are talking about the Zaporizhzhya direction, then the Russian military is attacking from the south to the north. After the liberation of Ugledar in the DPR, Velyka Novosyolka opens up before our fighters, and then the Vremevsky salient, Gulyaipole, Orekhov. These settlements can be bypassed to the north, without running into enemy fortified areas," the OP member believes.

"Thus, increasing pressure on the Zaporizhzhya group of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from the east and south - and there, as far as we know, our forces have advanced in the village of Kamenskoye - can lead to very good results and a much faster liberation of Zaporizhzhya. This, in turn, will provide access to the Dnipropetrovsk region and the entire left bank of the Dnieper," the speaker added.

This prospect certainly causes even more fear and panic in Kyiv. "Meanwhile, in the Dnipropetrovsk region, people continue to wait for the arrival of the Russian military. Yes, they are underground today, driven and intimidated, but their faith is not broken," Rogov concluded.

https://vz.ru/society/2024/10/7/1291141.html

No need to waste time with Dnepropetrovsk, go straight to Kiev next

Arrow wrote:There is no indication that Russian troops will advance on Kiev in the foreseeable future.

And no indication is exactly what you need

Reality gradually dawning in the US.

Arrow wrote:

flamming_python wrote:No need to waste time with Dnepropetrovsk, go straight to Kiev next

There is no indication that Russian troops will advance on Kiev in the foreseeable future.

What indication is there of any Russian advance...until it happens. Massing of troops is too risky, they tend to attack in smaller fromations then build strength from different directions once a line of contact is established.

It is, literally, an arms race

Yes, Usain Bolt in his prime against current Sleepy Joe Biden.

flamming_python wrote:No need to waste time with Dnepropetrovsk, go straight to Kiev next

Landlocking the Ukraine and pushing them further from the Russian border should take priority over capturing Kiev. After all, it's the most heavily fortified Oblast after the Donbass (thanks to Soviet engineering) and has the largest population. Conquering and occupying Kiev would suck up enormous resources from the Russian military in terms of personnel and would be similar to the liberation of Mariupol but on a much, much larger scale.

Liberating Zaporozhye and moving into Dnepropetrovsk would allow Russia to capture the rest of Kherson, create a buffer zone between the NATO-led Nazis and the Nuclear Power Plant they keep attacking and establish a much needed land corridor to Odessa and Pridnestrovie.

Arrow wrote:

It is not, but it is very doubtful. Russia barely has the strength to advance the front at a very slow pace in Donbas. Not to mention some mystical offensive on Kiev.

Russia has all the strength it needs to advance at any pace. The question is how many casualties it's prepared to suffer in return for that pace of advance? In Feb 2022 it was prepared to advance to Kiev in 3 days and did so despite the casualties.
It can do so again if needed. But I don't advocate that. The area around Kiev has not been garrisoned with troops in every building and village. And if the Ukrainians do do so, then it's still more useful to advance a snail's pace there then a snail's pace in the Dnepropetrovsk region.

Broski wrote:Landlocking the Ukraine and pushing them further from the Russian border should take priority over capturing Kiev. After all, it's the most heavily fortified Oblast after the Donbass (thanks to Soviet engineering) and has the largest population. Conquering and occupying Kiev would suck up enormous resources from the Russian military in terms of personnel and would be similar to the liberation of Mariupol but on a much, much larger scale.

Liberating Zaporozhye and moving into Dnepropetrovsk would allow Russia to capture the rest of Kherson, create a buffer zone between the NATO-led Nazis and the Nuclear Power Plant they keep attacking and establish a much needed land corridor to Odessa and Pridnestrovie.

Once you capture Kiev much of the rest of the Ukraine might collapse into Russia's hands by default.
Allowing the nerve centre to operate while you go after secondary objectives doesn't make much sense.
Yes it would be a demanding operation approaching it, but I'm talking about advancing to it first and foremost, not yet storming it.

flamming_python wrote:
Once you capture Kiev much of the rest of the Ukraine might collapse into Russia's hands by default.

It won't and you already know why.

Allowing the nerve centre to operate while you go after secondary objectives doesn't make much sense.

The nerve center of the Ukraine is in Brussels, Washington, London, Paris, Warsaw etc...

Yes it would be a demanding operation approaching it, but I'm talking about advancing to it first and foremost, not yet storming it.

Which does nothing to slow down or stop the Nazi regime from attacking Russia but gives the nazis perfect cover to attack Russian soldiers and positions from using civilians as meat shields.