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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:09 am

    Blah blah blah...  Poor NAFO mutt is upset that his beloved bandera trench buddies are getting their turds pushed in? Suck it up big boy, cuz the fun has just begun!!  Razz

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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:16 am

    Ugledar op is proceeding nicely.
    You can hear the NAFO mutts whine, both foreign and domestic, and their wails are like music to my ears   Twisted Evil Russian special military operation in Ukraine #61 - Page 16 26sep210

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    Post  Kiko Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:04 am

    Zelensky was sent, by Kirill Strelnikov for RiaNovosti. 09.27.2024.

    When, after Zelensky's meeting with Biden and Harris, the line of black limousines with the Kyiv delegation left the White House, a Ukrainian folk song about unrequited love sounded invisibly over Washington: "Taras is over, the lights go out and there are no more ellipses..." Zelensky, sniffling, gloomily looked at the darkened bulletproof glass and frantically thought about why, in response to his proposal of marriage and "victory plan," he was politely but firmly shown the door and given a pumpkin as a farewell gift.

    Indeed, why?

    Everything went exactly according to plan. Long before the visit of the overdue president to the USA , officials from Bankova were traveling as if to work, local support groups of American senators were scurrying around high offices, PR agencies and pocket media were daily preparing the public for the "historic" meeting, where Ukraine would definitely be given everything and allowed to do everything, including strikes on Russia with long-range Western weapons, and the leaders of the countries - the main allies of the USA - made it clear in plain text that they had long agreed to everything and were just waiting for the go-ahead.

    Biden himself was specially prepared for processing. Every Israeli pager was filled with exhortations, threats, and flattery: "Zelensky's visit is the last chance to win the war," "If Biden lifts restrictions, he will go down in history," "The whole world is looking at Biden and the United States," "Ukraine has neither the strength nor the means to win, its only hope is the leader of the free world" — and everything in a similar vein. Zelensky and "his people" in Biden's entourage had no doubt that after such neuroprogramming, Biden would simply not be able to look at the "victory plan" and say no.

    And how can one refuse such a good and working plan? After all, every point in it is a guarantee of victory over Putin :
    • Immediate granting of NATO membership to Ukraine or similar security guarantees;
    • To start with, 500 billion dollars in cash, but non-cash is also possible;
    • Immediate execution of any requests for any volume of military equipment, weapons and ammunition;
    • A sharp increase in pressure on Russia in all directions to “force peace,” including a “global” package of new sanctions;
    • Rejection of any peace options that involve territorial concessions on the part of Ukraine;
    • Permission for the unlimited use of Western long-range missiles for strikes deep into Russian territory, as well as these missiles themselves in maximum quantities;
    • At least 25 Patriot SAM batteries with full ammunition load;
    • And some other little things.

    According to eyewitnesses, when Biden and Harris read Zelensky's "victory plan," old Joe's punch cards started smoking, and Kamala's laughter brought the entire Secret Service running.

    After taking some Validol and drinking some water, Biden finally pulled himself together and told reporters that they had imagined the smell of smoke and that he was "determined to provide Ukraine with everything it needs," and in general, "Russia will not win, but Ukraine will win." Harris, with difficulty putting on a serious face, said that "her support for Ukraine remains unwavering" and "we will continue to provide military assistance to Ukraine so that it can succeed."

    When Zelensky opened the envelope with the list of American gifts on the plane, according to Western media reports, Kondraty almost hugged him. Instead of a shining mountain of weapons and money, Biden and Harris handed him a half-dead mouse, painted khaki:

    • Eight billion dollars (and then in parts), of which almost half will remain with the American military-industrial complex;
    • One (!) Patriot battery;
    • A certain amount of air defense systems, armored vehicles, drones and ammunition;

    The promise to properly train 18 Ukrainian pilots to fly F-16s this time.

    For reference: eight billion dollars is just seven Patriot batteries worth 1.1 billion each, of which the Russian Iskanders have already destroyed dozens.

    On the other points of the loud "victory plan" - deafening silence. True, Biden wrote that Zelensky could use American AGM-154 JSOW medium-range glide bombs. Although they fly short distances, are expensive, and the US itself has few of them, and in general they have not been produced since 2017 - but it will do.

    Evil tongues say that the US authorities had indigestion after the Russian president explained the updated Russian nuclear doctrine, after which all the "Storm Shadows" and "Scalps", along with JASSM and ATACMS, were urgently deleted from the Ukrainian list. At least, the Financial Times reported that "the revision of Russia's nuclear doctrine was a clear signal to the West from President Vladimir Putin."

    Judging by the comments in Western media, Zelensky was furious that he was sent to finalize the "victory plan", but at the same time he was glad that he was not kicked.

    Donald Trump , commenting on the results of Zelensky's "historic" visit to Washington, said simply: "Ukraine no longer exists."

    Perhaps this is beginning to be understood by more and more representatives of the Western elites, who have surprisingly quickly realized that some “guaranteed plans for victory” are equal to a guaranteed plan for the next world.

    https://ria.ru/20240927/zelenskiy-1974978942.html

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    Post  Mir Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:17 am

    idiot6 wrote:
    Ukrainian FPV takes out a Lancet.

    The little progress Russia is making on the battlefield is coming at a high manpower cost. While they are losing less than ukraine, I don't think they can keep this up for long. There will probably be some kind of negotiated settlement next year.

    You can probably take down a Lancet with an AK if you have steady nerves, but let me remind you that Russia ran out of missiles two years ago...
    Zelenski is right though the conflict will end soon, but unfortunately for him it won't be on his terms Laughing

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    Post  Mir Fri Sep 27, 2024 4:19 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #61 - Page 16 Img_2012

    Looks like they ran out of brake fluid Embarassed Laughing

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    Post  Hole Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:26 am

    faced two wars in Dagestan
    Chechnya.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:12 am

    Kiko wrote:Zelensky was sent, by Kirill Strelnikov for RiaNovosti. 09.27.2024.

    ...." Zelensky, sniffling, gloomily looked at the darkened bulletproof glass and frantically thought about why, in response to his proposal of marriage and "victory plan," he was politely but firmly shown the door and given a pumpkin as a farewell gift.

    Indeed, why?
    ....

    I know, it's because Halloween is coming up Cool


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    Post  Kiko Fri Sep 27, 2024 6:43 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Kiko wrote:Zelensky was sent, by Kirill Strelnikov for RiaNovosti. 09.27.2024.

    ...." Zelensky, sniffling, gloomily looked at the darkened bulletproof glass and frantically thought about why, in response to his proposal of marriage and "victory plan," he was politely but firmly shown the door and given a pumpkin as a farewell gift.

    Indeed, why?
    ....

    I know, it's because Halloween is coming up  Cool



    To give someone a pumpkin is to let that someone down; to reject him.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:20 am

    Mir wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #61 - Page 16 Img_2012

    Looks like they ran out of brake fluid Embarassed Laughing

    All hail the vaunted Seanpennwaffe. . . . Though I would like to see 3 or 4 shot down, one on take off, one on landing and a couple in air to air combat so even I am Sam can get over his arms selling scam. . . .

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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:37 am

    bandit6 wrote:https://youtu.be/ZAimQdyrQ5c?si=-dGGHBKr-tFPt-Ab

    Ukrainian FPV takes out a Lancet.

    The little progress Russia is making on the battlefield is coming at a high manpower cost. While they are losing less than ukraine, I don't think they can keep this up for long. There will probably be some kind of negotiated settlement next year.

    This post reads a lot like someone who posts "we're back in this game now" when their favorite American gridiron football team is down 70-0 in with less than 5 minutes left in the fourth quarter & they intercept a pass made by the other team's 3rd string qb.

    Sorry, but one shot down rocket (now is this a 120 or 150 perecent of all rockets launched shot down dose of copium? Also, youtube? I can say lots of shit on Youtube. I can say Joe the Bidet saw pics of Zelensky wearing a tutu and was very disappointed when the unshaven bum in the dirty sweater wasn't up for a tryst. I would have no evidence to support my claim, but I could post the vid.

    As for Russia making only minor gains? They are pulverizing defense lines dug in and built up for a decade. Oh, and they are making gains. Also, and this is the big difference, they are keeping the territories they are making gains in. Ukraine has went on two glorious summer offensives. In both, they have ended their campaigns with less territory than they started with and what little territory they gained was soon taken from them. Ukraine has made some forraya into Russian territory but they have been brutally beaten out.
    Russia? When in this war has Russia been forced out of any territory they gained? Before you say around Kiev, I said forced out. They pulled back without being under fire.

    Now lets talk casualties. I agree, Russian deaths are probably between 60 and 100,000 dead and 180,000 and 300,000 wounded. That is a tragedy. Ukraine? They have between 500 and 750,000 dead and 1.5 million to 2.2 million wounded. That is a catastrophe. Toss in Ukrainians who have fled the country, most never to return, and the United Cocaine Republic of Nazi Banderastan is facing a demographic disaster.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:13 am

    Each pipe was laid at least a hundred meter from the rest - yet multiple pipes were blasted - not ruptured - in up to 50 meter long chunks.

    Each individual pipe would have had a shaped charge attached to it which was then detonated. The pipes are under pressure... even when they are not pumping gas...

    There is no need for nukes to be used when shaped charges can be placed on the pipes during the HATO training exercise the year before.

    Once placed you can remote detonate them any time you please.

    Only a nuclear device possesses such power.

    A nuclear explosion underwater would create a mountain of steam on the surface because even a tiny nuke will vapourise millions of litres of water.

    During nuclear testing ships were positioned near underwater nuclear explosions and the steam balls were fucking enormous.

    A nuclear explosion would also be very very dangerous... water does not compress but natural gas does so a nuclear explosion near pipes under several metres of water, the blast always take the line of least resistance, which in this case would be through the pipes, compressing the gas and likely destroying the pump sites on either end of the pipes. The gas would not burn without oxygen but it would be superheated and rather dangerous.

    The West will soon test Putin's nonsense.

    The west is attacking Russia and you talk about Putins nonsense?

    Always Putin to blame... the west can do as it pleases, there are no rules or limits for their behaviour...

    Well I say try him... I hope they are that stupid.

    The only point , I would add to revision of nuclear doctrine , is that non-destructive , followed by low-destructive use of nukes should be considered first ,

    When you are in a gun fight with a guy with a pistol do you start the fight by telling him terrible things about his mother, and then start punching and throwing bottles and chairs and then draw your pistol but just aim for his toes and then his knees and then his hips... and when you are picking up that chair to throw at him and he shoots you in the head... how silly will you look?

    Don't **** around with Nukes... use them or don't use them.

    Using your nukes to send a message that doesn't kill anyone tells them you are a pussy and will not kill their innocent civilians... that is the sign he will take to launch a full out attack on you knowing you are a moral person and you might hesitate long enough to lose.

    If I'm not mistaken, that US has quite a lead in this area with their W88 warhead, where the W88 has a greater yield compared to Russian warhead designs of the same weight. This is only based on articles I've read about this matter, perhaps someone can correct if this piece of info is just NATO propaganda.

    Or maybe US slide rules result in overestimating the performance of nuclear weapons like the overestimate the penetration performance of their anti tank missiles...


    "In the updated version of the document, aggression against Russia by any non-nuclear state, but with the participation or support of a nuclear state, is proposed to be considered as a joint attack on the Russian Federation," Vladimir Putin noted.

    In other words before Sweden and Finland joined HATO, Russian law basically meant that Russia could not use nuclear weapons against them. Now they have joined HATO they are all fair game because they are allied to powers that have nuclear weapons...

    Electronic warfare (EW) can effectively counter the wolfpack technique. Various tools like drones and specialized projectiles equipped with chaff, flares, or jamming devices are commonly employed to misdirect enemy cruise missiles.

    The Soviet missiles from the 1980s included datalinks via satellite to the launch platforms... plus if US carrier groups are going to be sailing around with jammers and chaff and flares blazing away all the time then their ability to hide is going to be zero.

    It is funny you suggest the wolfpack attack can be countered because the brand new western swarm is essentially a wolfpack attack... and you say it is easy to defeat... well that is bad news for the Americans.

    The problems with jammers and decoys is you never really know if they are effective or not... a US carrier group detects a single missile rising above the horizon... it performs one scan of the battlegroup and then drops back down below the horizon.... the carrier group will of course be operating in zero emissions mode to avoid being detected so there will be no jamming and no chaff going on, by the time they detect being scanned there wont even be time to launch a SAM to hit it before it drops back down below the radar horizon.... and meanwhile it is analysing the data in the radar scan, detecting the size and locations of ships in the carrier group picking out the AEGIS class cruisers and the aircraft carriers and allocating the missiles in its flight group to each target... as they approach the radar horizon they might climb and accelerate to high speed or remain a few metres above the water surface. Moskits tend to stay low because the SM-2 Standard SAM used by the US Navy can't hit targets flying less than 7m above the wave tops and Phalanx is useless against sea skimmers too... Larger missiles like the Kh-22M and now Kh-32 fly at higher altitudes and much higher speeds... as does Onyx, while Zircon moves much much faster and could be used first to take down the AEGIS class cruisers and carriers allowing the older slower missiles to slaughter the now defenceless rest of the fleet.

    A proper coordinated attack would include 650mm torpedoes launched quite a long period of time before, arriving first to immobilise some of the bigger ships making them sitting ducks to the incoming missiles.

    Deploying multiple small active jammers near a threat emitter overwhelms its receiver and overloads its data processing capabilities, resulting in delayed or confused detection of the genuine target. These compact active jammers can be delivered via various means, including rockets, mortars, artillery, balloons, parachutes, or even housed within miniature remotely piloted vehicles (mini-RPVs). This electronic countermeasure technique proves valuable in off-board jamming of anti-ship cruise missiles.

    Wow, that sounds amazing... except US carrier groups practise emissions control to reduce the amount of noise they emit to reduce the chance they will be detected... but that sounds like the opposite. Active jammers can be ignored because these incoming missiles wont be interested in taking out jammers... if you have jammers pumping out EM energy all the time none of the missiles will need to climb and scan for targets, they will be able to triangulate the position of the fleet by their emissions and the fleet wont even know they are coming...

    Europe has plenty of underwater pipelines, if Russians are upset over NS2 they can just trash those and call it a day

    The only people that suffered were the Germans in that attack and if they don't care then Russia shouldn't.

    Of course it is my understanding that the pipes were owned or part owned by Russia... as was the gas in the pipes that was released by the attack and if Germany are not interested in finding out who actually did it then Russia can just sue the Germans to get their money back.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:19 am

    ucmvulcan wrote:

    Ukraine? They have between 500 and 750,000 dead and 1.5 million to 2.2 million wounded.  That is a catastrophe.  Toss in Ukrainians who have fled the country, most never to return, and the United Cocaine Republic of Nazi Banderastan is facing a demographic disaster.  
    Not just demographic but societal. At the most basic level where are all the farmers they are going to need? Most of their villages, towns and cities need to be only half their current size at most.

    This will be a new experience for a 'western' country. A bit like Germany in 1945 but probably without occupation forces to keep control and help out. Mind you it was 3 years before Marshall Aid loans started, this time it could be Blackrock as the financial vampire not the USG but they may well be the USG for all intents and purposes.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:24 am

    Vugledar is in full encirclement.
    Wonder how big was the garrison, and if they managed to get out.
    Otherwise, rabbit season is open ...

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:33 am

    GarryB wrote:

    Of course it is my understanding that the pipes were owned or part owned by Russia... as was the gas in the pipes that was released by the attack and if Germany are not interested in finding out who actually did it then Russia can just sue the Germans to get their money back.

    Nord Stream 2 is a joint project involving five major companies: 

    Gazprom international projects North 1 LLC (Gazprom Group company) 51%
    Wintershall Dea AG 15.5%
    PEG Infrastruktur AG (E.ON) 15.5%
    N.V. Nederlandse Gasunie 9%
    ENGIE, French 9%.

    None apart from Gazprom are Government owned (Gazprom majority owned)

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    Post  franco Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:42 am

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (for the period from September 21 to 27, 2024)

    From September 21 to 27, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 33 group strikes with precision weapons, including hypersonic aeroballistic missiles "Dagger", as well as strike unmanned aerial vehicles, as a result of which enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine and energy facilities that provided their work, the infrastructure of military airfields, as well as a military echelon with a western weapons and equipment. In addition, workshops for the production and storage of unmanned aerial vehicles and unmanned boats, arsenals, ammunition and fuel depots, temporary deployment points and areas of concentration of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, nationalist formations and foreign mercenaries were affected.

    During the week, the units of the North group of forces continued to carry out an operation to destroy the AFU formations in the Kursk region. Attacks by operational-tactical, army aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles and artillery fire on the areas of concentration of personnel and equipment of five mechanized, tank, two airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and five air defense brigades suppressed attempts to conduct counterattacks and enter enemy reserves. In the Volchansk and Liptsovsky directions, units of the motorized infantry brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a marine brigade, two air defense brigades and the nationalist Kraken formation were defeated. During the week in the area of responsibility of the North group of forces, enemy losses amounted to over 3,270 soldiers, 10 tanks, including two Leopard tanks manufactured by Germany, 66 armored combat vehicles and 81 vehicles. Six multiple launch rocket systems were destroyed, including a US-made HIMARS multiple launch rocket launcher, 53 field artillery guns, as well as eight electronic warfare and counter-battery warfare stations.

    During the week, the units of the Zapad group of forces improved their tactical position along the front edge. They defeated the formations of six mechanized, tank, assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two defense brigades and a brigade of the National Guard. They repelled 24 counterattacks by the assault units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Enemy losses amounted to over 2,980 military personnel, seven tanks, 14 armored combat vehicles, including three M113 armored personnel carriers manufactured by the United States, 40 vehicles, three multiple rocket launchers manufactured by the Czech Republic and Croatia, as well as 52 field artillery guns, including 19 self-propelled artillery units and 155-mm howitzers supplied by the Armed Forces of the two countries NATO. In addition, 12 electronic warfare and counter-battery warfare stations were destroyed, as well as 26 field ammunition depots.

    During the week, the settlements of Grigorovka and Ostroye of the Donetsk People's Republic were liberated by the active actions of units of the Southern Group of Troops. The manpower and equipment of four mechanized, two motorized infantry, two infantry, mountain assault, amphibious assault, airmobile brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two air defense brigades, a national Guard brigade and an assault brigade "Lyut" of the National Police of Ukraine were defeated. The enemy lost up to 5,140 troops, two tanks, eight armored combat vehicles, 94 vehicles, three multiple rocket launchers, including a US-made HIMARS multiple rocket launcher, and 58 field artillery guns, 35 of them Western-made. 11 electronic warfare and counter-battery warfare stations were destroyed, as well as 31 field ammunition depots.

    As a result of the decisive actions of the units of the Center group of forces, the settlements of Ukrainsk and Marinovka of the Donetsk People's Republic were liberated. The formations of six mechanized, two infantry, two jaeger, assault, airborne, airmobile, amphibious assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two defense brigades and four National Guard brigades were defeated. 67 counterattacks of enemy assault groups were repelled. During the week, the losses of Ukrainian formations in this direction amounted to 3,880 military personnel, a tank, 15 armored combat vehicles, including two M113 armored personnel carriers manufactured by the United States, 27 vehicles and 44 field artillery guns.

    The units of the Vostok group of forces continued to advance into the depth of the enemy's defense, defeated the manpower and equipment of two mechanized and motorized infantry brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, three defense brigades and a National Guard brigade. They repelled 12 counterattacks by the assault units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The enemy lost up to 960 soldiers, three tanks, four armored combat vehicles, 37 vehicles, 13 field artillery guns, 11 of them 155 mm caliber manufactured by NATO countries, as well as four electronic warfare stations.

    Units of the Dnepr group of forces defeated formations of the infantry, mountain assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two marine brigades, three defense brigades and a National Guard brigade. The enemy's losses amounted to up to 410 soldiers, 45 vehicles, 12 field artillery guns, two electronic warfare stations and four field ammunition depots.

    During the week, air defense means shot down an ATACMS tactical missile manufactured in the United States, 10 long-range guided missiles "Neptune", two HARM anti-radar missiles manufactured in the United States, two S-200 anti-aircraft guided missiles converted to defeat ground targets, 20 Hammer guided aircraft bombs manufactured in France, 39 HIMARS rockets manufactured in the United States and Vampire Czech production, as well as 482 unmanned aerial vehicles of the aircraft type, including 164 outside the zone of a special military operation.

    The aircraft of the Black Sea Fleet destroyed six Ukrainian unmanned boats.

    During the week, 66 Ukrainian servicemen surrendered on the line of contact.

    In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 646 aircraft, 283 helicopters, 3,288 unmanned aerial vehicles, 579 anti-aircraft missile systems, 18,434 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,469 multiple rocket launchers, 15,295 field artillery and mortars guns, 26,613 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12530738@egNews

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    Post  franco Fri Sep 27, 2024 8:46 am

    Russian MoD reporting 16,640 Ukrainian casualties over the past 7 days.

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    Post  franco Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:15 am

    Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of repelling the attempted invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the territory of the Russian Federation in the Kursk region (as of September 27, 2024)

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue their actions to defeat the enemy group that has entered the territory of the Kursk region.

    The units of the North group of forces continued to conduct offensive operations, during which they defeated the formations of the 21st, 22nd and 115th mechanized, 17th tank, 82nd and 95th airborne assault brigades, 1st National Guard Brigade, 36th Marine Brigade, as well as the 103rd Brigade of the Territorial Defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Lyubimovka, Daryino, Novy Put, Nikolaevo-Daryino and Plekhovo.

    Also, over the past day, the units of the group reflected five enemy counterattacks in the direction of the settlements of Lyubimovka and Plekhovo.

    As a result, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost up to 30 people killed and wounded, four armored combat vehicles and a car were destroyed. One soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

    With the support of army aviation and artillery fire, 11 attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to break through the border of the Russian Federation in the direction of the settlements of Novy Put and Medvezhye were repulsed.

    The enemy's losses amounted to more than 70 people killed and wounded, an armored personnel carrier, seven armored combat vehicles and three cars were destroyed. Two servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

    Army aviation strikes and artillery fire defeated concentrations of manpower and equipment of the 21st, 22nd, 41st, 61st and 115th mechanized, 17th tank, 80th and 95th airborne assault brigades, 1st National Guard Brigade, 36th brigades of Marines, as well as the 103rd and 129th brigades of the territorial Defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Guevo, Darino, Kolmakov, Kozachaya Loknya, Lyubimovka, Malaya Loknya, Martynovka, Mikhaylovka, Medvezhye, Novaya Sorochina, Novy Put, Orlovka, Plekhovo, Pravda, Tolstoy Meadow and Cherkassk Porechnoye.

    Tactical aviation and missile forces attacked the areas of concentration in the Sumy region and the reserves of the 21st, 22nd, 41st and 115th mechanized, 82nd and 95th airborne assault, 92nd assault, 1st brigade of the National Guard, as well as 101stThe 1st and 103rd brigades of the territorial Defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Atinskoye, Belovody, Boyar-Lezhichi, Glukhov, Zhuravka, Zarutskoye, Katerinovka, Krugok, Moskalenki, Machulishcha, Novaya Sloboda, Pavlovka, Rovnoye, Ryzhevka, Svessa and Sumy.

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to more than 330 servicemen, 16 armored vehicles, including a tank, two armored personnel carriers and 13 armored combat vehicles, as well as an artillery piece, an electronic warfare station, a counter-battery fighting station and eight vehicles. Three servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 17,750 servicemen, 131 tanks, 62 infantry fighting vehicles, 97 armored personnel carriers, 837 armored combat vehicles, 533 vehicles, 143 artillery pieces, 31 multiple launch rocket launchers, including eight HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, eight anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, five transport-loading vehicles, 37 electronic warfare stations, nine counter-battery radars, two air defense radars, 18 units of engineering and other equipment, of which 11 engineering barrier vehicles, the UR-77 mine clearance unit and an armored recovery vehicle.

    The operation to destroy the AFU formations continues.

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    Post  Kiko Fri Sep 27, 2024 9:26 am

    Poroshenko prepares for Zelensky's election, by Sergey Mirkin, journalist, Donetsk, for VZGLYAD. 09.27.2024.

    Perhaps Zelensky's so-called victory plan is designed to be rejected in Washington, which will give the ZE team the opportunity to carry out a multi-move combination that will result in holding presidential elections without lifting martial law.

    Representatives of the European Solidarity party (the political force of former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko) made several statements that the team of the head of the Maidan regime, Volodymyr Zelensky, is preparing for the presidential elections.

    Thus, Ukrainian parliament member Oleksiy Goncharenko (included by Rosfinmonitoring in the list of extremists and terrorists) stated that, according to his information, Zelensky's deputy head of office Viktor Mykyta secretly met with regional representatives of the Servant of the People party (Zelensky's political force) and discussed with them issues of the electoral process and preparation for the elections. Another Poroshenko supporter, former Prosecutor General of Ukraine Yuriy Lutsenko, is confident that the so-called plan for Zelensky's victory is calculated on the fact that he will not be approved in Washington, and this will give the ZE team the opportunity to carry out a multi-move combination, the result of which will be the holding of presidential elections without the lifting of martial law, which will allow Zelensky's supporters to control the entire process.

    Why did Poroshenko's supporters raise the topic of elections now? There are several versions.

    Poroshenko decided to raise the issue of elections before his trip to Washington. Moreover, journalists and experts in the US have written more than once that Zelensky, by refusing to hold elections, is violating the principles of democracy, and cited the case when in the 1950s the US held presidential elections despite the fact that the country was waging war in Korea. Perhaps the representatives of "European Solidarity" are following orders from certain forces in the West who want to ensure that elections are held in Ukraine. For what purpose?

    If Zelensky announces presidential elections in Ukraine before the US elections, this will be a plus for Democratic candidate Kamala Harris, her supporters will be able to claim that Ukraine is a democratic country, and its president is a champion of Western values, and not a dictator at all, because he decided to hold elections in a war, so the US gave Ukraine so many billions for a reason. In addition, it seems that there are forces in the West that believe that Zelensky and his gray cardinal Andriy Yermak should be removed from power, but they want to do this within the law. And therefore they want elections to be held in Ukraine - in the hope that Zelensky will lose power. In Washington, there will probably be bargaining over the "Zelensky plan" and one of the White House's demands may be holding elections in exchange for permission to strike Western missiles deep into Russia.

    The second version: Poroshenko is sure, and maybe even knows, that Zelensky's "victory plan", despite the public, diplomatic blackmail of the head of the Maidan regime, will be rejected. And Zelensky will not receive permission to strike with Western systems deep into Russia. Thus, according to the LBC radio station, Washington has not made a decision whether to give consent to strike deep into Russia or not. They are afraid of the possible negative impact of this step on Harris's election chances. Apparently, this is a veiled way of talking about concerns about a possible escalation of relations with Russia. And if a major war with an unpredictable outcome looms on the horizon, this could really destroy Harris's chances of becoming president.

    If Washington refuses to implement Zelensky's plan, it will hit his and his team's positions hard. Perhaps the latest reshuffle in the Ukrainian government is connected to this: Yermak is preparing for the Maidan Ukraine to be in turmoil. Biden's refusal to support Zelensky's plan will mean for the Ukrainian elite that the ZE team has lost Washington's favor, which means it must be removed from power. But how? The best way is to force them to hold presidential elections. Poroshenko will most likely want to take up the "mace" for the second time, so his people are starting to pedal the topic of elections in advance and, possibly, are preparing for them. Because when Zelensky returns from Washington empty-handed, everyone will start talking about the elections: the Sorosites, the supporters of former Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, and, it seems, some of the military who are oriented toward the former commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valeriy Zaluzhny.

    The third version is that Lutsenko is generally right and everything that is happening is a plan by Zelensky, or more precisely, Yermak and the British intelligence services, to retain power by the ZE team. According to Lutsenko, Zelensky specifically made the plan so that Washington would reject it. After which Zelensky will declare that the West has betrayed Ukraine, and he has no other choice but to sit down at the negotiating table with Russia to save the state and citizens. Then negotiations will begin, during which a ceasefire agreement will be reached. After that, Zelensky will begin to position himself as the president of peace and will hold elections, but without lifting martial law, which will allow his office to influence the electoral process, as a result of which he will again become president.

    Theoretically, one can expect such a multi-move from Yermak, but this plan is very risky. Accusing the West of betraying Ukraine means reducing Harris's chances of becoming president, and the American Democrats will not forgive the Zelensky regime for this.

    Of course, one can assume that Yermak has teamed up with another presidential contender, Donald Trump, and the ZE team will play for his victory. But the risk is very high. And while Biden is in power, American intelligence agencies will begin to act against Zelensky. In addition, the start of negotiations with Russia could give rise to riots by Ukrainian Nazis, some veterans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In addition, the army opposition in the Ukrainian army may consider this their chance to carry out a coup d'etat. After all, Zelensky will no longer have a "roof" in the form of the White House.

    Finally, where are the guarantees that Russia will agree to a ceasefire before a full peace agreement is signed? But according to Lutsenko, Zelensky wants to hold elections after the cessation of hostilities, but before the legal termination of the SVO. Such a plan cannot be called absolutely unrealistic, but it is too risky for Yermak and Zelensky. Although it cannot be ruled out that something similar was planned as one of the scenarios for retaining power in the ZE team.

    https://vz.ru/opinions/2024/9/27/1288747.html

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    Post  Backman Fri Sep 27, 2024 10:47 am

    Has the CIA/Mi6 cooked up their next stupid idea... The Ruby That ship name is kinda familiar.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:05 am

    Backman wrote:Has the CIA/Mi6 cooked up their next stupid idea... The Ruby That ship name is kinda familiar.


    Stupid limeys still think they have a global empire. Look, if Russia wanted to flatten Airstrip 1 they'd lob a half dozen nukes and only Boris Johnson's toupee would remain

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Sep 27, 2024 11:12 am

    My guess is that the general stance of the UK when it cames to relations with Russia is the same ego/looser driven as in Poland.
    Britain was struggling with the Russians for ages, at every single direction.
    Starting with the Balkans, and ending up with India.
    With the US independence war in the middle.
    They have been outmaneuvered and outrunned in every single direction.
    Today, Britannia is a shade of its own might.
    An old and pauperized auntie that still lives with warm memories of her youth.
    In the meantime, Russkie retained a global status, with good and effective relations with most of the ex-Brit dominies that regained independence.
    Russian connections with let's say India are just one of the multiple examples, not even starting with Africa and Middle East ...
    That brings rage which leads to a witch hunt, because people in general have an issue with taking the blame on them, when they can apply it to the others.
    No matter is there is any serious reason behind it.
    A hurt ego drives insane ideology.

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    Post  Arrow Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:43 pm

    In the meantime, Russkie retained a global status, with good and effective relations with most of the ex-Brit dominies that regained independence. wrote:

    Russia was the only one to retain the status of an empire out of the other powers of the late 19th century and early 20th century. The rest of the colonial empires fell apart. England, France, Germany, who tried to create their own empire. They survived the fall of the USSR and the 90s and now they have rebuilt their status. They only lost demographically and part of their territory, but despite this they managed to maintain the status of an empire compared to the former colonial powers. But in this case Russia has uniform territories, etc.

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Sep 27, 2024 3:13 pm

    We await Russia's comments

    EROMAN -- time will tell - 👀 --@GeromanAT

    "In Starokostiantyniv, in a bunker for storing Storm Shadow and SCULP missiles, 9 NATO Air Force staff officers who had arrived from Rammstein via Chisinau to Ukraine were killed. They were coordinating and guiding, using NATO AWACS aircraft, missile launches from Ukrainian fighters.

    Six of the nine were US citizens of Ukrainian descent and three were French.

    Polish Air Force planes are evacuating three air ambulances from the border area with Ukraine today. Each plane is designed for five people, including resuscitation equipment and three doctors.

    According to preliminary information, 7 British instructors and 6 technical specialists from the Netherlands were seriously injured.

    Two Russian hypersonic missiles were missed by Ukrainian air defenses, resulting in the destruction of three fighters: two F-16s and one Su-24, plus at least 15 SS and Sculp missiles."

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    "the air force said Russia fired three Kinzhal hypersonic ballistic missiles “in the direction of” Starokostiantyniv.  The air force said it could not make further information public, suggesting the missiles were aimed at a sensitive site."

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