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    Post  franco Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:29 am

    Statement by the Russian Ministry of Defense

    During the past night, when the Kiev regime attempted to carry out a terrorist attack using unmanned aerial vehicles on objects on the territory of the Russian Federation, 92 Ukrainian aircraft-type UAVs were destroyed and intercepted by air defense on duty.
    -47 UAVs were intercepted and destroyed over the territory of the Krasnodar Territory,
    -12 over the territory of the Kursk region,
    -9 over the territory of Rostov,
    -4 over the territory of Bryansk,
    -two over the territories of the Belgorod Region and the Republic of Crimea,
    -one over the territory of the Voronezh Region and
    -15 UAVs over the waters of the Sea of Azov.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12532381@egNews

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    Post  Arrow Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:48 am


    Russia to produce 11,000 Geranium drones this year Shocked

    https://vpk.name/news/848944_nemeckaya_pressa_tempy_proizvodstva_bespilotnikov_v_rossii_rastut_ona_postavila_cel_proizvodit_32_tysyachi_dronov_v_god.html

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    Post  franco Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:33 pm

    Not exactly sure of the overall figures but this would certainly indicate a high casualty rate amongst the foreign mercenaries. Wonder who is covering the costs for these fools?

    https://x.com/East_Calling/status/1844335210185503211/photo/1

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    Post  Firebird Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:40 pm

    franco wrote:Not exactly sure of the overall figures but this would certainly indicate a high casualty rate amongst the foreign mercenaries. Wonder who is covering the costs for these fools?

    https://x.com/East_Calling/status/1844335210185503211/photo/1

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    Absolute faggots.
    And these are the Western stats!

    I heard of plenty of circus freaks in England and Europe being promised "1.5k usd PER DAY"
    for all manner of "security work".
    It's a pity more of these vermin didn't take up the offer.

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    Post  Mir Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:53 pm

    franco wrote:Not exactly sure of the overall figures but this would certainly indicate a high casualty rate amongst the foreign mercenaries. Wonder who is covering the costs for these fools?

    https://x.com/East_Calling/status/1844335210185503211/photo/1

    Those figures indicates that the German and American mercenaries are fleeing the scene much sooner that the others. Laughing

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    Post  Firebird Thu Oct 10, 2024 1:15 pm

    I wonder where being dead counts in the "severe disability" stats.

    Plus there are the so called "instructors" ie serving Western military staff.
    There has been a significant number of more snr ranks from France, GB, USA etc liquidated.
    So how many of the more jnr ranks?

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    Post  RTN Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:02 pm

    Sujoy wrote:Imagine if Iran had Iskanders. Israel wouldn't even contemplate attacking Iran. A combination of Iskander and S-300 would have given Iran a massive advantage.
    You don't seem to have much common sense. Israeli F-15D jet with Blue Sparrow air launched ballistic missile struck Iranian Tombstone illumination and guidance radar of S-300PMU2 air defence system at Isfahan Airbase after Iranian attack in April.
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    Post  lyle6 Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:22 pm

    franco wrote:Not exactly sure of the overall figures but this would certainly indicate a high casualty rate amongst the foreign mercenaries. Wonder who is covering the costs for these fools?

    https://x.com/East_Calling/status/1844335210185503211/photo/1
    They promise sky high salaries. Not very costly scam to maintain because the Russians kill most of them before they can even collect a paycheck.

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    Post  lyle6 Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:32 pm

    RTN wrote:
    You don't seem to have much common sense. Israeli F-15D jet with Blue Sparrow air launched ballistic missile struck Iranian Tombstone illumination and guidance radar of S-300PMU2 air defence system at Isfahan Airbase after Iranian attack in April.

    Your butt buddies hit a decoy radar - as per usual. The Serbian microwave trick is still undefeated to this day.

    What`s funny is they captured an intact blue sparrow missile from this fail of an attack. A few months from now you`ll probably get your missile back - with interest of course. Razz

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    Post  ucmvulcan Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:35 pm

    RTN wrote:
    You don't seem to have much common sense. Israeli F-15D jet with Blue Sparrow air launched ballistic missile struck Iranian Tombstone illumination and guidance radar of S-300PMU2 air defence system at Isfahan Airbase after Iranian attack in April.

    You and your American shite propaganda are the very last person -other than Ms Low Def- who have any right to say someone doesn't have common sense. By the way, who the **** are you because I can't be bothered to remember your name ya putz

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    Post  franco Thu Oct 10, 2024 3:56 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 2155 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including;

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 200 servicemen, three tanks, an armored combat vehicle, as well as a mortar, an electronic warfare station and a car were destroyed. Five servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12532527@egNews

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:28 pm

    franco wrote:Not exactly sure of the overall figures but this would certainly indicate a high casualty rate amongst the foreign mercenaries. Wonder who is covering the costs for these fools?

    https://x.com/East_Calling/status/1844335210185503211/photo/1



    Majority of the "Polish" are ethnic Ukrainians from Poland.


    I wonder why the Colombians fare worst, perhaps they are not used to the colder environment?

    Or is it due to the language barrier? I am not certain of this, but perhaps very few Ukrainians speak Spanish, and it is rare for people in Colombia to speak English.

    Or perhaps the Ukrainians want them dead because there is lots of Jewish ancestry in Colombia?


    http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html



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    Post  ucmvulcan Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:31 am

    So what news from the front?

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    Post  Kiko Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:39 am

    Panic has begun in the ranks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region, Alaudinov said, 10.10.2024.

    Alaudinov: Panic reigns in the ranks of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region, the enemy is fleeing across the border.

    MOSCOW, 11 Oct - RIA Novosti. The Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk direction are in confusion, a large group of enemy equipment has fled across the border, said the commander of the Akhmat special forces, deputy head of the main military-political department of the Russian Defense Ministry, Major General Apti Alaudinov.

    "The enemy is losing really serious areas every day... Today we observed a picture where a very large group of enemy equipment simply fled from the territory of the Kursk region , ran across the border... having lost some of their tanks, which were burned on the move," Alaudinov said on the air of the Russia 1 TV channel.

    In addition, according to him, the Russian military destroyed the entire battalion headquarters and its commander; the enemy was not even able to evacuate the bodies and wounded.

    "I can now say that our enemy is in some confusion here. Indeed, he is panicking, and we are recording this... I would like to note that at this rate, we will probably soon be able to report that the Kursk region has been liberated," added Alaudinov.

    On August 6, Ukrainian Armed Forces units invaded Kursk Oblast, capturing some border territories. Their advance was stopped. A counter-terrorist operation is in effect in Kursk, Belgorod and Bryansk Oblasts.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that the Kiev regime had carried out a provocation and was firing indiscriminately, including at civilian targets. Putin said that the enemy would receive a worthy response, and all of Russia's goals would be achieved.

    https://ria.ru/20241011/alaudinov-1977495822.html

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    Post  mnztr Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:40 am

    Proof that the "rolling shed" tank concept is working

    https://x.com/i/status/1844286072802640164

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    Post  Kiko Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:05 am

    The secret of victory over Russia is revealed, by David Narmania for RiaNovosti. 10.11.2024.

    Volodymyr Zelensky deserves credit - he knows how to surprise. True, in recent years, it is rather the statements that are completely out of touch with reality and stubbornness that could be put to better use that have caused surprise. Just look at the recent teaser of the Ukrainian "victory plan".

    It is amazing how self-confidently Zelensky, imagining himself a cunning merchant, wanders around sponsorship offices with this very plan, and even manages to portray it as a secret behind seven seals.

    As a speculator, he secretly shows the "victory plan" to the most generous supporters of Kiev , adding in a half-whisper: "Just to no one!" The dumbfounded Western politicians, looking at the fabrications of the Krivoy Rog strategist, throw up their hands in bewilderment, not understanding the point of this feigned secrecy.

    Thus, in the White House, having learned about the contents of this plan, they called it a "set of initiatives", which translated from diplomatic into Russian means "a wish list". This formulation suggests that there is no coherent logic in this plan that would allow Ukraine to make the journey from point A (a very tangible threat of the front collapsing) to point B (the triumphant exit of troops to the 1991 borders).

    Zelensky arrived in London with this very list the day before . Apparently, the current British Prime Minister Starmer is less favoured by Bankova than his predecessors, so the first two points from the list were made public the day before.

    And here even Ukrainians were surprised.
    It turned out that victory was close. All that was needed was such a trifle as joining NATO.

    From president to president, from revolution to revolution, Ukrainians dream of joining the alliance. Generations replace each other, thousands and thousands of refugees "disappear" at the front, but the dream does not get closer. Sometimes, promises of joining NATO from Ukrainian politicians for their voters resemble a cognitive test. And Ukrainians, alas, fail it time after time.

    The whole problem is that to get into the coveted club with dubious prospects, manifestations and requests to the Universe alone are not enough. The accession of a new member to the alliance must bring some benefits to all other participants. And Kyiv is not very good at this.

    The only promising bonuses are the non-figurative threat of a third world war and the possibility of exchanging blows with weapons of mass destruction. The offer is exclusive - only for those who have these weapons.

    In general, the marketing of Ukraine's application to NATO is so-so. Only the Baltic republics are ready to openly support it, whose leadership is 50% hatred of Russia and another 50% willingness to serve Western sponsors.

    There is also a second point in the plan - permission to strike deep into Russia. It is also, to put it mildly, stale. Zelensky went to the States for long-range weapons back in September, and Western media outlets were throwing in that Kyiv would get them. However, instead of the formidable JASSM and permission to use the already received ATACMS as he sees fit, Zelensky took only JSOW from the trip, which, against the backdrop of Ukrainian requests, looks more like a handout.

    But the cheerful and courageous Commander Zelensky reminded the crew of the Ukrainian airliner in distress that Rammstein was ahead and that Kyiv would get what it wanted there! However, providence intervened here - Biden and Blinken announced that they would not go to the summit because of Hurricane Milton. In the end, it turned out to be not as formidable as expected, but the meeting of the coalition in support of Ukraine itself was decided to be postponed due to the absence of key figures. The dates are not disclosed, and it is still unclear whether the summit will take place under Biden, or everyone will wait for the election results.

    Even if it takes place under the current occupant of the White House, Zelensky has little chance of getting what he wants. Many Western politicians and military personnel agree that long-range weapons strikes will not be able to radically change the situation on the battlefield.

    But this is secondary. The two points outlined demonstrate the crisis of ideas of the Ukrainian leadership - they are unable to come up with anything new. At least, so as not to worsen their own situation, as happened after the adventure in the Kursk region.

    Zelensky's plan is unrealistic, and Bankova understands this perfectly well. But he remains in power as long as the fighting continues. He cares little about how many Ukrainian lives each day of his rule costs. For him, war has already become the only way to continue to exist.

    And here he is at different poles with the ordinary Ukrainian. But whether the ordinary Ukrainian will be able to comprehend this, we still have to find out. At the very least, the "victory plan" is a fat hint for those who will have to die for this plan.

    https://ria.ru/20241011/ukraina-1977483161.html

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:10 am

    Ukrainian Attacks On Territory Of Russia On October 10, 2024 (Map Update)

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    Russian air defense intercepted 47 suicide drones in the Krasnodar region;
    Russian air defence intercepted 9 suicide drones in the Rostov region;
    Russian air defence intercepted 15 suicide drones over the Sea of ​​Azov;
    Russian air defence intercepted 15 Ukrainian drones in the Kursk region;
    Russian air defence intercepted 4 Ukrainian drones in the Bryansk region;
    Russian air defence intercepted 6 Ukrainian drones in the Belgorod region;
    Russian air defence intercepted Ukrainian drone in the Voronezh region;
    Ukrainian drone struck a military airfield near Maykop causing a fire.


    https://southfront.press/ukrainian-attacks-on-territory-of-russia-on-october-10-2024-map-update/


    Cool

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    Post  GarryB Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:49 pm

    They promise sky high salaries. Not very costly scam to maintain because the Russians kill most of them before they can even collect a paycheck.

    And you can guarantee they wont read the fineprint in the contract that says they can harvest your organs when you die which is going to make them a lot of money if they can find your corpse... and it is in one piece...


    Or perhaps the Ukrainians want them dead because there is lots of Jewish ancestry in Colombia?

    There were complaints by Colombian families that their men were returned with most of their internal organs missing, so maybe they had European customers for parts...


    Off Topic moved to https://www.russiadefence.net/t9111p150-offtopic-stuff-from-the-ukriane-war-thread1

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    Post  franco Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:58 pm

    Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (for the period from October 5 to October 11, 2024)

    From October 5 to 11, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 38 group strikes with precision weapons, including hypersonic aeroballistic missiles "Dagger", as well as attack unmanned aerial vehicles. As a result of the strikes, oil and gas industry and energy facilities that provided the work of enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, as well as the infrastructure of military airfields, were hit. In addition, workshops for the production and storage of unmanned boats and UAVs, fuel bases, ammunition depots and military-technical equipment, as well as temporary locations of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, nationalist formations and foreign mercenaries were affected.

    During the week, units of the North group of forces continued to carry out an operation to destroy the Armed Forces of Ukraine formations in the Kursk region, during which they liberated the settlements of Novaya Sorochina and Pokrovsky. Air strikes, unmanned aerial vehicles and artillery fire defeated units of six mechanized, tank, three airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a marine brigade, four air defense brigades and a National Guard brigade. Units of the motorized infantry, Jaeger, airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two air defense brigades and a National Guard brigade were defeated in the Volchansk and Liptsovsky directions. During the week in the area of responsibility of the North group of forces, enemy losses amounted to over 2,090 military personnel, nine tanks, 32 armored combat vehicles, 26 vehicles, a Czech-made Vampire multiple rocket launcher and 25 field artillery guns. Five electronic warfare and counter-battery warfare stations were destroyed, as well as two field ammunition depots.

    During the week, the units of the Zapad group of forces continued to advance into the depth of the enemy's defense and occupied more advantageous positions. They defeated the formations of two tank, six mechanized, assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two defense brigades and two National Guard brigades. 23 counterattacks of the AFU assault groups were repelled. The enemy lost up to 2,920 troops, two tanks, 16 other armored combat vehicles, including eight M113 armored personnel carriers manufactured by the United States, 46 vehicles and 35 field artillery guns, of which 11 self-propelled artillery units and 155-mm howitzers supplied by the Armed Forces of Ukraine by NATO countries. In addition, 13 electronic warfare and counter-battery warfare stations were destroyed, as well as 22 field ammunition depots.

    As a result of the decisive actions of the units of the "Southern" group of troops, the settlements of Zhelannoe Second and Ostrovskoye of the Donetsk People's Republic were liberated. The manpower and equipment of five mechanized, motorized infantry, two infantry, assault, mountain assault, amphibious assault, two airmobile brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a defense brigade and two National Guard brigades were defeated. 22 counterattacks of the AFU assault units were repelled. The enemy's losses amounted to 4,790 military personnel, four armored combat vehicles, 53 vehicles and 45 field artillery guns, 37 of them Western-made. Five electronic warfare stations and 10 field ammunition depots were destroyed.

    The active actions of the units of the Center group of troops liberated the settlement of Grodovka in the Donetsk People's Republic. The formations of the tank, seven mechanized, motorized infantry, two infantry, jaeger, airborne brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, two marine brigades, three defense brigades and three National Guard brigades were defeated. 58 counterattacks of enemy assault groups were repelled. During the week, the losses of Ukrainian formations in this area amounted to 3,370 servicemen, four tanks, including Leopard tanks made in Germany and AMX-10 tanks made in France, 11 other armored combat vehicles, including the M113 armored personnel carrier and the Bradley infantry fighting vehicle made in the United States. 27 vehicles and 26 field artillery pieces were destroyed.

    As a result of the coordinated actions of the units of the Vostok group of forces, the settlement of Zolotaya Niva of the Donetsk People's Republic was liberated. The manpower and equipment of two mechanized, motorized infantry brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, four air defense brigades and a National Guard brigade were defeated. 10 counterattacks of the AFU assault units were reflected. The enemy lost up to 780 troops, five armored combat vehicles, including two US-made M113 armored personnel carriers and 51 vehicles. 16 field artillery pieces were destroyed, 12 of them produced by NATO countries.

    The units of the Dnepr group of forces defeated the formations of two mechanized, infantry, mountain assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a marine brigade and four air defense brigades. The losses of the Armed Forces amounted to 480 soldiers, 27 vehicles and 14 field artillery pieces. Seven electronic warfare and counter-battery warfare stations were destroyed, as well as four field ammunition depots.

    During the week, 43 Ukrainian servicemen surrendered on the line of contact.

    During the week, air defense means shot down three ATACMS tactical missiles manufactured in the United States, three guided Hammer bombs manufactured in France, a guided missile of the S-200 anti-aircraft missile system converted for firing at ground targets, 33 HIMARS rockets manufactured in the United States, as well as 603 unmanned aerial vehicles of the aircraft type.

    In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, 646 aircraft, 283 helicopters, 33419 unmanned aerial vehicles, 582 anti-aircraft missile systems, 18607 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1470 multiple rocket launchers, 15988 field artillery and mortars, 27145 units of special military vehicles have been destroyed.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12532682@egNews

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    Post  franco Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:03 pm

    Russian MoD reporting 14,430 Ukrainian casualties over the past 7 days.

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    Post  franco Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:05 pm

    Summary of the Russian Ministry of Defense on the progress of repelling the attempted invasion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into the territory of the Russian Federation in the Kursk region (as of October 11, 2024)

    The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue their actions to defeat the enemy group wedged into the territory of the Kursk region

    The units of the North group of forces continued to conduct offensive operations, during which they defeated the formations of the 22nd, 41st, 47th and 115th mechanized, 17th tank, 82nd and 95th airborne assault brigades, the 1st brigade of the National Guard, as well as 103- The 1st and 129th brigades of the Territorial Defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Darino, Lyubimovka, Tolstoy Meadow, Novy Put and Plekhovo.

    In addition, over the past day, the units of the group have repelled five enemy attacks in the direction of the settlements of Lyubimovka, Malaya Loknya, Novaya Sorochina and Kremyanoye. As a result, the Ukrainian Armed Forces lost up to 40 people killed and wounded, an infantry fighting vehicle, an armored combat vehicle and a car were destroyed.

    Army aviation strikes and artillery fire defeated concentrations of manpower and equipment of the 21st, 22nd, 47th and 61st mechanized, 17th tank, 80th, 82nd and 95th airborne assault brigades, 1st and 17th National Guard brigades, as well as the 103rd, 112th and 129th brigades of the territorial defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Bondarevka, Goncharovka, Darino, Zazulevka, Kurilovka, Leonidovo, Lyubimovka, Malaya Loknya, Martynovka, Makhnovka, Nikolaevo-Darino, Novy Put, Nizhny Klin, Novoivanovka, Orlovka, Plekhovo, Sverdlikovo, Tolstoy Meadow and Cherkasskoye Porechnoye.

    Tactical aviation and missile forces attacked the concentration areas and reserves of the 21st, 47th and 115th mechanized, 95th Airborne Assault Brigade, 36th Marine Brigade, 78th Airborne Assault Regiment, as well as the 103rd and 119th brigades The territorial defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the areas of the settlements of Belopolye, Bunyakino, Dibrova, Iskrikovshchyna, Katerinovka, Malushino, Makeyevka, Mirlogi, Miropole, Obody, Pavlovka, Rechki, Stepanovka and Shpil of the Sumy region.

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to more than 300 people, 13 armored vehicles were destroyed, including five tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles, five armored combat vehicles, as well as four artillery pieces, a multiple rocket launcher, a mortar, an electronic warfare station and four cars. One soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

    In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost about 21,900 troops, 144 tanks, 69 infantry fighting vehicles, 98 armored personnel carriers, 897 armored combat vehicles, 594 vehicles, 181 artillery pieces, 34 multiple rocket launchers, including eight HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, nine anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, five transport-loading vehicles, 47 electronic warfare stations, nine counter-battery radars, three air defense radars, 22 units of engineering and other equipment, of which 13 engineering barrier vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as three armored recovery vehicles.

    The operation to destroy the AFU formations continues.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12532686@egNews

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:26 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/K01Archive/videos/1076973610685992

    Video clip about Russian Lancet destroying an Ukrainian FPV team, in the battle of Kursk.

    The Ukrainians considered that FPV as the solution for many of their perceived problems. As a natural result, formal organization of FPV forces is necessary. Ukrainian forces can do that because they already have the manpower and the remaining tasks are just organizing them into units and providing equipment.

    However the problem of Ukrainians us that they have no unified and synchronized organization, and their FPV forces are formed by "natural selections", i.e. the surviving models will be the adopted model.

    As a results, turning them into fixed organizations from such unorganized background lead to huge problems. For example, in the clip, we can see that the destroyed Ukrainian FPV team did not have adequate camouflage for their vehicle. Other Ukrainian units suffered from shortcomings in training of replacements, and inadequate electronic warfare.

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    Post  Hole Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:26 pm

    did not have adequate camouflage for their vehicle
    At least they had a vehicle. lol1

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    Post  franco Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:27 pm

    Russian military have liberated 15 settlements in Kursk Oblast previously occupied by the Ukrainian Armed Forces. This was reported in an interview with kp.ru by Deputy Chief of the Main Military-Political Directorate of the Ministry of Defense Apty Alaudinov.

    He said that the Russian Armed Forces are advancing in the Donetsk direction in ten areas. According to Alaudinov, they are liberating "one or two settlements" every day.

    “We are unlikely to agree to turn our backs and leave these same four (new ones. — Gazeta.Ru) regions,” Alaudinov said.

    Since August 6, Russian troops have been fighting with Ukrainian units in the Kursk region. Since August 10, a counter-terrorist operation regime has been in effect in the region.

    Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that the Ukrainian Armed Forces' invasion of the Kursk region is an attempt to stop the advance of Russian units on the territory of the DPR, LPR and Novorossiya. The head of state promised a worthy response to Ukraine for its attacks on the border.

    Earlier, the Kursk court arrested seven servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

    https://www-gazeta-ru.translate.goog/army/news/2024/10/11/24130573.shtml?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

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