Russian special military operation in Ukraine #61

Kyiv will receive additional NASAMS anti-aircraft missiles, RIM-7 and Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, ammunition for HIMARS artillery rocket systems, 155-mm and 105-mm artillery shells, Javelin and AT-4 anti-tank systems, HMMWV combat vehicles, small arms, ammunition, grenades, etc

ALAMO wrote:
Not yet.
And what shocks me most is the fact, that there is a rather simple solution to this.
First, end the war.
Second, reestablish business as usual with Russkie.
Third, rearm while spending the money on the EU based MIC, not US one.
But nobody will allow that to happen because the goal of this drill was the opposite

Unfortunately the Russians will not forget nor forgive the Euros for forcing them to kill their own blood, by their own hands even. The retribution might not come now, or tomorrow, but it will come. The death toll will be horrendous.

For Europe to survive it has to be defanged. Permanently.

Can't be a threat if you're living hand to mouth.

Arkanghelsk wrote:

Ouch - the perenoha became a stinking fucking Zrada hahahaah

It was enough to watch the faces of the audience when he pushed these phantasmagories.
This guy clearly lives in an alternate universe full of white powder.
And what is the most humorous part is the fact the more idiocies he speaks, the more Europe distances.
For me who is watching  that for years, it looks like the turning point has been achieved a while ago, and only gaining momentum.

lyle6 wrote:
Unfortunately the Russians will not forget nor forgive the Euros for forcing them to kill their own blood, by their own hands even. The retribution might not come now, or tomorrow, but it will come. The death toll will be horrendous.
For Europe to survive it has to be defanged. Permanently.
Can't be a threat if you're living hand to mouth.

Well, yes and no.
Keep in mind that there is no single European opinion to the matter.
It varies even in countries - just t ake a look at Croatia. While its president keeps sane mind and was calling the warmongers to send their own children there because he as a Croatian president wouldn't allow the Croats to die for Ukropia.
And was called a Russian agent by the Croatian PM
Hungarian position is clear.
Slovak position is clear.
Pretty soon, Czechs will follow the Slovakian path - Czech society is quite pragmatic, it is only part of its political establishment that pushes an insane Russophobic agenda. Dismantling Koniev's monument in Prague, ended up in riots.
Bulgar society is Russia-positive - it would be very hard not to be if Russkie gave them freedom from Ottoman oppression that was drawing them in blood.
It is again a part of a corrupted political class that pushes the agenda the society doesn't share.
A giant part of German society has not a gram of Russophobia, the same applies to the Austrians.
Remember that there is a rather big German diaspora in Russia and vice versa.
Russkie are way to pragmatic to dump those sentiments down the toilet - they will cooperate with the friendly EU member countries.
They are doing that even now - there was a scandal this week, as German SWR wrote that till the end of 2023, German machine industry has carried more than THREE HUNDRED deliveries of equipment to Russian MIC...
With Turkey being a middleman
HAd they ceased to do it in 2024 is a rhetorical question I suppose

Russian MoD reporting 2410 Ukrainian casualties in the past 24 hours including in the Kursk;

During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to more than 250 people, 15 armored vehicles were destroyed, including five tanks, two infantry fighting vehicles, of which one was a Swedish-made CV-90 BMP, eight armored combat vehicles, as well as four guns, of which two M777 howitzers made in the USA and one L119 howitzer made in Britain, a launcher installation of multiple rocket launchers, four mortars and four vehicles. Six servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.

Eugenio Argentina wrote:About 100 masked men broke into the church of the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/32705) in Cherkassy during the liturgy at night, seized the cathedral, and stole its treasury, the Union of Orthodox Journalists reported.

https://t.me/geopolitics_live/35148

So what?

They tried to play neutral with Nazis to save their status, this is just karma

Eugenio Argentina wrote:About 100 masked men broke into the church of the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church (https://t.me/geopolitics_live/32705) in Cherkassy during the liturgy at night, seized the cathedral, and stole its treasury, the Union of Orthodox Journalists reported.

https://t.me/geopolitics_live/35148

I would absolutely hate to be them. If God wasn't on Russia's side before this, He most certainly is now.

The Ukrainians can only dream of something like this heading their way I gave up counting

Mind you, they are supposed to be getting 49 or so clapped out Aussie M1a

lyle6 wrote:

ALAMO wrote:
Not yet.
And what shocks me most is the fact, that there is a rather simple solution to this.
First, end the war.
Second, reestablish business as usual with Russkie.
Third, rearm while spending the money on the EU based MIC, not US one.
But nobody will allow that to happen because the goal of this drill was the opposite

Unfortunately the Russians will not forget nor forgive the Euros for forcing them to kill their own blood, by their own hands even. The retribution might not come now, or tomorrow, but it will come. The death toll will be horrendous.

For Europe to survive it has to be defanged. Permanently.

Can't be a threat if you're living hand to mouth.

They are "Slavs" but their original founders came on Varangian boats?

If they were Slavs they would have arrived on land, not on boats.

Zaporozhian Cossacks showed similar behavior patterns to Varangians.


https://www.tripadvisor.ca/Attraction_Review-g294474-d3187570-Reviews-Kyiv_Founders_Monument-Kyiv.html




Genuine Slavic nationality would be ethnic Poles.

It was the ethnic Poles who blocked German expansion to the East for around 700 years.

Meanwhile Ukraine in the past sided with Sweden, now is siding with Germany.

Nuclear Blackmail: Zelensky Decided to Scare the World with Weapons of Mass Destruction, by David Narmania for RiaNovosti. 10.17.2024.

The continuation of yesterday's banquet of Volodymyr Zelensky with a winning plan did not take long to come. At today's speech at the European Council, he repeated the theses that became one of the reasons for the main tragedy in Ukrainian history.

"In a conversation with Donald Trump, I said: 'This is what we have. What is the solution? Either Ukraine will have nuclear weapons - and then this will be our defense. Or we must have some kind of alliance. Apart from NATO , we do not know of an effective alliance today. NATO countries are not at war today. NATO countries are not at war. In NATO countries, all people are alive,'" Zelensky opened up to his European partners.

And literally immediately Bild published a very interesting article with references to a certain Ukrainian official who threatens to create an atomic bomb for Kiev in a few weeks. It is noteworthy that this unnamed source specializes in arms purchases.

"We have the materials, we have the knowledge. If we get the order, it will only take a few weeks to get the first bomb," the German publication quotes him as saying.

Here we need to immediately clarify a few points. There is no particular need to mention that Russia has more nuclear warheads than the Ukrainian Armed Forces use artillery shells per month. There is also no need to mention that there is no safe place in Ukraine that Russia could not reach with non-nuclear, but extremely powerful means. There is no talk at all about Russia not allowing such a scenario to happen. This is obvious to everyone anyway.

It is better to pay attention to the following. The intellectual impoverishment of Western elites is, of course, increasingly evident, but even they understand that it is primarily in their interests to do everything to prevent Ukraine from acquiring nuclear weapons. Kyiv is bowing and scraping to get long-range missiles and air defense. They are giving it with difficulty. And as for weapons of mass destruction... The West needs Ukraine as a cheap - and they do not hide it - consumable that can be used against Russia. No one is going to make it, if not a nuclear power, then a gang with a nuclear club. The Germans are not allowed to do so, and certainly not the cocaine ruler of a country that the average American cannot find on a map.

That is why if yesterday's - and today's, for that matter - comedian seriously thinks: "Nuclear weapons? That would be great!" - and something happens to him after that, then it is very likely that American or European specialists have gotten ahead of their Russian colleagues. His role in the global party is to drive Ukrainians to their death, and not to threaten the world with a nuclear apocalypse.

It is therefore significant that Bankova hastened to refute the Bild article, calling it a hoax and nonsense.

But why then was such a statement made at all?

The thing is that Zelensky is well aware that there is very little time left until the fateful elections for the United States - and now Washington is the most pliable in the entire two and a half years. He understands that the Democrats "have no time to hit on the head" even the arrogant kept men. So if not now, then when?

It is no coincidence that he mentions the Republican candidate: the fact that the actor in a military T-shirt, who has become a pain in the neck for everyone, is talking to Trump with ultimatums, and the latter, according to him, agrees with him, is a good pass for Harris in the current situation. So she has something to justify herself with before the current settlers of the White House.

It is also significant that literally yesterday, almost immediately after Zelensky's speech, the United States said that there is no talk of Ukraine joining the alliance right now. Against the backdrop of Zelensky's crucifying himself with his "immediately, today, right away", this looked like a slap in the face. It is not surprising that the artist was offended.

But to assume that only resentment served as the reason for this kind of performance would, of course, be a mistake.

What is Zelensky's goal then? Joining NATO is not the only point of the "victory plan", there are others. And they are much more down-to-earth in the current realities and discussed for the West. This is why Kyiv is raising the stakes - demanding the impossible in order to get at least what it wants.

Is it adventurous? Of course. The last time Zelensky spoke about nuclear weapons, the SVO began. What consequences his speech will have now - we will see. And, I think, no one will be surprised if the break in massive missile attacks ends here.

All this only indicates that things are moving towards disaster for Bankova on the front lines.

https://ria.ru/20241017/zelenskiy-1978599973.html

JohninMK wrote:
Mind you, they are supposed to be getting 49 or so clapped out Aussie M1a

Those are mostly MTLB carriers.
An equivalent of a truck on tracks, honestly.
Guns are 2S3.

Zelensky threatens to develop nuclear weapons.

Arrow wrote:Zelensky threatens to develop nuclear weapons.

The only result of such a promise is that Kiev loses its nuclear reactors. If the little terrorist launches so much as one, everything west of the Dniepr becomes glass

ALAMO wrote:
Well, yes and no.
Keep in mind that there is no single European opinion to the matter.
It varies even in countries - just t ake a look at Croatia. While its president keeps sane mind and was calling the warmongers to send their own children there because he as a Croatian president wouldn't allow the Croats to die for Ukropia.
And was called a Russian agent by the Croatian PM
Hungarian position is clear.
Slovak position is clear.
Pretty soon, Czechs will follow the Slovakian path - Czech society is quite pragmatic, it is only part of its political establishment that pushes an insane Russophobic agenda. Dismantling Koniev's monument in Prague, ended up in riots.
Bulgar society is Russia-positive - it would be very hard not to be if Russkie gave them freedom from Ottoman oppression that was drawing them in blood.
It is again a part of a corrupted political class that pushes the agenda the society doesn't share.
A giant part of German society has not a gram of Russophobia, the same applies to the Austrians.
Remember that there is a rather big German diaspora in Russia and vice versa.
Russkie are way to pragmatic to dump those sentiments down the toilet - they will cooperate with the friendly EU member countries.
They are doing that even now - there was a scandal this week, as German SWR wrote that till the end of 2023, German machine industry has carried more than THREE HUNDRED deliveries of equipment to Russian MIC...
With Turkey being a middleman
HAd they ceased to do it in 2024 is a rhetorical question I suppose

If parts of Europe can be made to defect that is fine, highly unlikely though it may be. But again, unless drastic measures are made to actually accomodate Russia`s security unfortunately Europe will have to be removed as a threat. Remember Russia has tried everything - they occupied half of Europe, then turned around and gave them their freedom while economically sustaining the continent at great cost to her citizens - and its still not enough. At some point they will just shrug and say **** it, and do the unthinkable...