But in other news a 22yra old man who went to Ukraine in June has been killed trying to play Rambo. Zero military experience and everyone saying they are so proud of him and he's very brave and heroic. I think stupid is the correct word here. He has no links to Ukraine, zero military experience and he thinks going to fight in Ukraine is a good idea? What nonsense. I have no sympathy for wannabe Rambo's
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But in other news a 22yra old man who went to Ukraine in June has been killed trying to play Rambo. Zero military experience and everyone saying they are so proud of him and he's very brave and heroic. I think stupid is the correct word here. He has no links to Ukraine, zero military experience and he thinks going to fight in Ukraine is a good idea? What nonsense. I have no sympathy for wannabe Rambo's
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During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 290 servicemen, five tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles, seven armored combat vehicles, as well as three mortars, an electronic warfare station and ten vehicles were destroyed. Three servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine surrendered.
https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12536728@egNews
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JohninMK wrote:UA command bunkers starting to look much less modern now.
Isn't that Annalena "360 degree turn" pretending to get a clue?
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d_taddei2 wrote:So the BBC report stating defence secretary that Russia has had it worst loses this month 1,500 dead a day and 700,000 dead to date. What a load of crap. Russia is clearing up the Donbass while Ukraine is trying to scrape together old men, people with learning disabilities, women, teenagers, amputees, and screaming for foreign countries to send Ukrainians back to fight. Yeah Russia is the one struggling I think not.
But in other news a 22yra old man who went to Ukraine in June has been killed trying to play Rambo. Zero military experience and everyone saying they are so proud of him and he's very brave and heroic. I think stupid is the correct word here. He has no links to Ukraine, zero military experience and he thinks going to fight in Ukraine is a good idea? What nonsense. I have no sympathy for wannabe Rambo's
When one has such bombastic claims of dead, they need to provide evidence of such. So, did bbc provide obituaries of all dead soldiers?
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sepheronx wrote:d_taddei2 wrote:So the BBC report stating defence secretary that Russia has had it worst loses this month 1,500 dead a day and 700,000 dead to date. What a load of crap. Russia is clearing up the Donbass while Ukraine is trying to scrape together old men, people with learning disabilities, women, teenagers, amputees, and screaming for foreign countries to send Ukrainians back to fight. Yeah Russia is the one struggling I think not.
But in other news a 22yra old man who went to Ukraine in June has been killed trying to play Rambo. Zero military experience and everyone saying they are so proud of him and he's very brave and heroic. I think stupid is the correct word here. He has no links to Ukraine, zero military experience and he thinks going to fight in Ukraine is a good idea? What nonsense. I have no sympathy for wannabe Rambo's
When one has such bombastic claims of dead, they need to provide evidence of such. So, did bbc provide obituaries of all dead soldiers?
Of course not but they need to peddle some BS story to make the world think Ukraine is winning and still has a chance. No deals with trump until end of January at the earliest that's a fairly long time for a Ukrainian soldier facing death every second of the day.
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sepheronx wrote:
When one has such bombastic claims of dead, they need to provide evidence of such. So, did bbc provide obituaries of all dead soldiers?
He was talking about casualties, i.e. dead and wounded at the daily rate of 1354 for October. Number comes from Ukrainians, obviously.
There's increasing talk about possible peace negotiations on both sides.
I'm guessing that they'll meet somewhere in the middle, where Russia keeps territories it holds now, with the hope that it can at least get whole prewar Donetsk region, Ukraine not in NATO and complete neutrality with reduced military size and weaponry.
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caveat emptor wrote:sepheronx wrote:
When one has such bombastic claims of dead, they need to provide evidence of such. So, did bbc provide obituaries of all dead soldiers?
He was talking about casualties, i.e. dead and wounded at the daily rate of 1354 for October. Number comes from Ukrainians, obviously.
There's increasing talk about possible peace negotiations on both sides.
I'm guessing that they'll meet somewhere in the middle, where Russia keeps territories it holds now, with the hope that it can at least get whole prewar Donetsk region, Ukraine not in NATO and complete neutrality with reduced military size and weaponry.
If the Russians agree to a deal where they only hold the four new regions and Crimea are all formally recognized as part of the Russian state, I would personally consider that a pyrrhic victory for the Russians. Yes they won, but they could have gotten far more and they only achieved their bare minimum goals
Putin was talking about referendums in other areas. Perhaps he hopes if talks can be had, he can get more of ukraine without fighting.
Which is a big idk there
for me for this to count as a very good russian victory, they must seize odessa, Kharkiv, Sumy, Myko, Cheriniv and Poltava. They won't get a round two for these.
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for me for this to count as a very good russian victory, they must seize odessa, Kharkiv, Sumy, Myko, Cheriniv and Poltava. They won't get a round two for these. wrote:
Exactly. Any agreement without cutting Ukraine off from the sea is a defeat for Russia. Agreements will be signed. Putin believes in agreements and papers and in a year NATO will stand in Odessa.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:
If the Russians agree to a deal where they only hold the four new regions and Crimea are all formally recognized as part of the Russian state, I would personally consider that a pyrrhic victory for the Russians. Yes they won, but they could have gotten far more and they only achieved their bare minimum goals
Putin was talking about referendums in other areas. Perhaps he hopes if talks can be had, he can get more of ukraine without fighting.
Which is a big idk there
for me for this to count as a very good russian victory, they must seize odessa, Kharkiv, Sumy, Myko, Cheriniv and Poltava. They won't get a round two for these.
They should definitely take Nikolaev, Odessa and Kharkov regions. But, this is not realistic atm. If peace talks are going on in present time, they can't count on that. They still don't control about third of Donetsk oblast, right bank Kherson region with the city itself and good part of Zaporozhie region, including the city and surroundings, where half of the population of the region lives.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:
If the Russians agree to a deal where they only hold the four new regions and Crimea are all formally recognized as part of the Russian state, I would personally consider that a pyrrhic victory for the Russians. Yes they won, but they could have gotten far more and they only achieved their bare minimum goals
Putin was talking about referendums in other areas. Perhaps he hopes if talks can be had, he can get more of ukraine without fighting.
Which is a big idk there
You are a solid and fair example of why people around the planet are laughing about murican level of being dumb.
Russkie have never bothered about territories, for the last 30+ years.
They are a fukin own continent and struggle on a daily basis to link all the wastelands they own.
The Ministry of education is arranging helicopters, to bring the kids who run a nomadic sort of living to school.
Yes I know, weird, you have just murdered your nomads or raped them all out of their heritage.
European way.
Russkie didn't.
Occupying Ukraine was never on the menu.
All the peace accords were solid on retaining the territorial integrity - minus Crimea which has always been Russia.
Minsk 1 and 2 - both granted both Lugansk and Doneck into the Ukrainian state.
Nobody ever contested or discussed Zaporozhe and Cherson.
It was never about the territories - but about the peace of mind and security of the Russkie nations living on a fukin 17mln km2.
To - finally - cease with the shit of how they must be divided into 5 different entities. Which was an agenda, with thugs like Kasparov sitting with a map of "freshly divided" Russkie lands behind his back. With the ghost of Bzhezinsky thug hanging in the background, as he was expelled from hell.
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One of the issues Kiev regime is facing now is lack of land mines.
During the 2022-2023, land mines is one of the most important weapons of the Kiev regime, both from old Soviet stocks and from Western supports. Russian units usually suffered many casualties from mines.
But now Russian forces are facing much less land mines than before. Probably Kiev's stock is running out, or probably Russian forces is advancing too fast, outpacing Kiev's ability to lay mines effectively.
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Mir wrote:Yes the main goal was and still is to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine. It's working just fine thanks.
Haha those Nazi will still be in power unless you take all of Ukraine, arguing that has the main goal is absurd...and devoid of all common sense, whgere the F have you been? the russians have made it clear one of their main main things is no NATO in Ukraine
the main goal for the russians was to keep Ukraine out of NATO
This nazi stuff was merely ONE of many reasons
if you let these territories go to NATO then you have partly failed
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Learn to read buddy
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So you guys been saying for years Putin was gonna negotiate. Yet he hasn't and has been expanding.
I mean, the facts have proven you guys wrong yet you still push same narrative.
It must be nice with such bliss that you keep getting things wrong
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caveat emptor wrote:They should definitely take Nikolaev, Odessa and Kharkov regions. But, this is not realistic atm. If peace talks are going on in present time, they can't count on that. They still don't control about third of Donetsk oblast, right bank Kherson region with the city itself and good part of Zaporozhie region, including the city and surroundings, where half of the population of the region lives.
Oh I know and the loss of these areas would be what i warned about over a year ago, take to long and your window will close.
Alias we will see, war ain't over, ain't no promise of a set deal yet, Trump will try what comes out of it we will see.
Just giving my view on how much of a victory they get, if they only keep what they have now
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sepheronx wrote:So many people here, particularly caveat and seig getting things so wrong.
So you guys been saying for years Putin was gonna negotiate. Yet he hasn't and has been expanding.
I mean, the facts have proven you guys wrong yet you still push same narrative.
It must be nice with such bliss that you keep getting things wrong
fact is Putin has negotiated after the war started a few times, what you are doing is ignoring context and using a blanket remark.
I do recall I said he "might" negotiate in the past BUT you conveniently leave out the specific conditions I named which would cause it. A new President keen on ending the war was one of them, what are you a reporter now?
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ALAMO wrote:Go and flush a toilet, as your daily reward if done properly.
And pray that your shitty henhouse will last the drain vibrations
1/10 come on man, your insults don't even make me grin. Give me something to chuckle over dude
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d_taddei2 wrote:So the BBC report stating defence secretary that Russia has had it worst loses this month 1,500 dead a day and 700,000 dead to date. What a load of crap. Russia is clearing up the Donbass while Ukraine is trying to scrape together old men, people with learning disabilities, women, teenagers, amputees, and screaming for foreign countries to send Ukrainians back to fight. Yeah Russia is the one struggling I think not.
But in other news a 22yra old man who went to Ukraine in June has been killed trying to play Rambo. Zero military experience and everyone saying they are so proud of him and he's very brave and heroic. I think stupid is the correct word here. He has no links to Ukraine, zero military experience and he thinks going to fight in Ukraine is a good idea? What nonsense. I have no sympathy for wannabe Rambo's
Ukraine is not conscripting like you are writing.
Only until months ago they were only conscripting men 27 years old or older.
In April they lowered the conscription age to 25.
If they were really desperate they would have conscripted men from 18 years of age, or even from 17 (in Canada you can serve in the military at this age).
The pregnant women fighting and men with the down syndrome fighting were only fictional bull-shit stories meant to generate yet more support to Ukraine.
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:
fact is Putin has negotiated after the war started a few times
"fact is" that Putin regime negotiated with Ukraine for the last 30+ years, which is a mystery for your undereducated ass.
It is not the first time, nor second, nor third, not fourth ... counting with me as it was in your childhood?
Western "affection" towards Ukraine is rooted back in the First World War.
You have not a single clue about that, being dumb.
"Ukraine" is a Habsburgian concept of inflicting turmoils on the Russian Empire.
Both names do not ring a single bell in your skull, because you can't even point an area on a Globus what we are talking about now
After the coup destroyed the Ukrainian statehood, pushing half of its population out of the limits, "Putin" negotiated with them multiple times.
After a full scale invasion began, they still have retained negotiations affecting a de facto peace deal signed in April 2022.
That was the point when Boris The Dumber was sent to Kiev to grant them immunity, for any fraud and corruption they could arrange - only to inflict more damage to the Russkie.
A whole of a country, and a whole of a nation, has been sold for an occasion to steal and rob.
Million people have died.
Four more are wounded.
Four more are facing a solid PTSD.
20 mln are displaced.
Ukraine is gone.
Just shut the fuk up, for God's sake ...
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There won't be any Nazis left in 6 months time to fight your little proxy war bro. The money's gone and that means the end is near.
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sepheronx wrote:So many people here, particularly caveat and seig getting things so wrong.
So you guys been saying for years Putin was gonna negotiate. Yet he hasn't and has been expanding.
I mean, the facts have proven you guys wrong yet you still push same narrative.
It must be nice with such bliss that you keep getting things wrong
For years? And he did negotiate. We had Minsk 1 and 2 and Istanbul accords.
War is lasting for almost three years. Unless they do one more round of mobilization (which i don't see the will to do) and commit, altogether, more resources we will not see any major breakthroughs. Taking big cities like Zaporozhie, not to mention Kharkov, will ask for very serious resources. Even to finish of Donetsk region will easily take a year with current, faster pace of advance. Let me remind you that they have been fighting around Chasov Yar for 7-8 month already and city is not yet taken. I don't see Ukrainians surrendering in droves yet.
Russian attack operations are more efficient than before, but there are still blunders of local commands, like recently at Seversk direction and in Kursk region.
Attritional warfare theories sound nice on paper, but with present ratio of losses this can easily take few more years and will ask them to commit more troops, for which i don't see political will atm. Who knows what can happen in the meantime.