The Situation in the Ukraine. #4

magnumcromagnon wrote:Please people can we stay on topic?

Yury Lelyavsky, Lviv journalist working as a freelance correspondent for ZIK has been released, the latter reports.  As with Serhiy Leftner and Artem Deineha, the release was only announced after Lelyavsky was safely back in Lviv, though he had been freed on May 9.

Levlyavky wrote:He told ZIK, though not explaining the source of his information, that as far as he knew 90% of the population did support secession from Ukraine.  He said that people are coming in families bringing food to the barricades where they constantly use statements from radical nationalist politicians to wind local people up.

macedonian wrote:

Regular wrote:Don't bite the hand that feeds You. What a disgrace to Srbija

Any details for this?
Hard to believe that Serbs who claim "Kosovo is Serbia" would say "Krim is Ukraine".
It's next to impossible. Pro NATO and Pro EU Serbs, yes, by all means, but this lot...IDK - I call BS on that

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I knew it was fake!
They've spelt Serbia wrong!

It's supposed to be: Србија
Not to mention that they have the Albanian Double-headed Eagle, and not the Serbian one.
Poor propaganda attempt by the Maidanuts

The United States has worked closely with the EU since 2009 to help prevent another energy crisis in Europe. That year we established the U.S.-EU Energy Council, which has met annually to deepen the transatlantic dialogue on strategic energy issues, foster cooperation on energy policies, and further strengthen research collaboration on sustainable and clean energy technologies.

The United States has worked diligently with partners in Europe to diversify energy sources.   Last year, a final decision was made to develop a pipeline that will bring 10 billion cubic meters of non-Russian natural gas from Azerbaijan to southern Europe by way of Georgia, Turkey, Greece, and Italy. The implications of the Southern Gas Corridor on European energy security are real.

Cyberspec wrote:Apparently there's some neo-nazi group that supports Bandera and his ideology. They have a FB page. But my guess is that they're a tiny group or it's someone's attempt to counter the regular pro-Russian manifestations in Serbia

Cyberspec wrote:
Apparently there's some neo-nazi group that supports Bandera and his ideology. They have a FB page. But my guess is that they're a tiny group or it's someone's attempt to counter the regular pro-Russian manifestations in Serbia

Haaretz wrote:Israel denied a request by Moscow to let a Russian missile boat anchor at Haifa a month ago, making the decision against the backdrop of the crisis in Ukraine, said a senior official in Jerusalem involved in the matter.

Vann7 wrote:The US and major neocons allies ..finance Rusophobia in all Europe. Through their NGOs.. People unemployed will be easy to find in
all europe , to want to join a Nazi group ,even if they don't know whats the purpose of the group or what a NAzi group is supposed to do..
As long they are paid ,they will support any movement they told. SO IT should be no surprise to find Groups with Nazi symbols and all that that.. albeit with a pro NATO ideology.

Welcoming a SYRIZA delegation led by Greece's main opposition leader Alexis Tsipras at Moscow’s Federation Council, Russia's upper house of Parliament, Council Chair Valentina Matvienko on Monday said that Greece is a "strategic partner" for Russia, which is interested in developing Greek-Russian relations in various sectors and directions, at both a bilateral and multilateral level.

Tsipras replied that the great majority of the Greek people, and SYRIZA, consider Russia to be an inseparable part of the greater Europe, from the Atlantic to the Urals, and for this reason are in favor of making "an effort to maintain the tradition of warm relations between Greece and Russia".

He stressed that Greece and Russia are linked with a "tradition of common struggles of our peoples, common religious convictions, with common political and cultural roots in our history," adding that "for this reason we believe that there can be no positive prospects and future for the peoples of Europe, if we do not try to once again build cooperation between our peoples, something that will also bring stability to our continent".

The SYRIZA leader went on to say that the meeting was taking place at a troubled and crucial time for Europe and Russia, while expressing concern over developments in Ukraine "since the conditions are being created for a new division in the heart of Europe, a regression to the era of the Cold War."

Tsipras further stressed that "it is a regression for us to see fascism and the neo-Nazis entering European governments again and for this to be accepted by the EU. The possibility of a diplomatic solution being promoted is also one of the targets of our visit, Ukraine must become a bridge between the EU and Russia and not a field of new division."

CNN wrote:(CNN) -- Ukrainians are a lot less pro-Russian than separatists there would like the world to believe, even in regions along the border with Russia which are supposedly voting overwhelmingly to declare independence from Ukraine, a new poll for CNN suggests.

CNN wrote:More than half (56%) said they felt a stronger sense of loyalty to Europe than to Russia, while 19% said they felt more loyal to Russia and 22% said neither. Three percent said they didn't know.

macedonian wrote:   Last year, a final decision was made to develop a pipeline that will bring 10 billion cubic meters of non-Russian natural gas from Azerbaijan to southern Europe by way of Georgia, Turkey, Greece, and Italy. The implications of the Southern Gas Corridor on European energy security are real.

gaurav wrote:Can some one here .. Firebird, FP, Arpakola..
post the link for Donetsk People Republic website..
I heard it in news.. that they have a separate website of their own.

If it is there then do post it here.. 

Напомним, что основой группировки ВВС Украины в Крыму была 204-я бригада тактической авиации имени А.И. Покрышкина, дислоцировавшаяся на аэродроме Бельбек близ Севастополя. На вооружении 204-й бригады состояло номинально 46 истребителей МиГ-29 и МиГ-29УБ и четыре модернизированных учебно-тренировочных самолета L-39M1. Боеготовность бригады была крайне низкой, и к началу 2014 года в летном состоянии из ее авиапарка находились только три МиГ-29, один МиГ-29УБ и один L-39M1. В ходе крымских событий 28 февраля 2014 года аэродром Бельбек был взят под контроль "вежливыми людьми", которые перекрыли личному составу 204-й бригады доступ к стоянкам самолетов и вывели из строя все четыре остававшихся исправными истребителя. 22 марта 204-я бригада и все сооружения аэродрома Бельбек окончательно были захвачены российским спецназом.

С 10 апреля 2014 года, по согласованию с российской стороной, представители ВВС Украины приступили к операции по вывозу своей авиационной техники и имущества из Крыма. Помимо имущества и техники 204-й бригады с аэродрома Бельбек, вывозу подлежат также несколько самолетов МиГ-29 и имущество Государственного авиационного научно-испытательного центра (ГАНИЦ) Украины с аэродрома Кировский вблизи Феодосии.

Руководство вывозом с украинской стороны осуществляет полковник Ярослав Лерман. Самолеты МиГ-29 вывозятся из Крыма на автомобилях КрАЗ. Каждый самолет расстыковывается и грузится на четыре специальных автомобиля, один из которых перевозит хвостовое оперение, другой крылья, третий фюзеляж, а четвертый - двигатели и снятое оборудование. Разборка истребителей осуществляется остающейся в Бельбеке группой из 28 техников 204-й бригады во главе с заместителем командира бригады по ИАС подполковником Сергеем Черным. Сообщается, что все перемещения украинских военнослужащих и транспорта на аэродроме Бельбек жестко ограничиваются российской стороной, а работы проходят под контролем российских особистов и вооруженных часовых, с полной фиксацией российской стороной на видеозапись. В Кировском все работы по разборке самолетов проводятся присланной группой украинских техников из состава 9-й бригады тактической авиации (аэродром Озерное, Житомирская область), поскольку практически весь технический состав ГАНИЦ либо перешел на службу в Вооруженные силы России, либо уволился.

Разобранные истребители на автомобилях доставляются на аэродром Кульбакино (Николаев). Первоначально для вывоза самолетов была задействована только одна автоколонна из четырех специальных автомобилей. После вывоза с Бельбека первых трех МиГ-29 для ускорения процесса были подключены еще три такие же автоколонны. В настоящее время из четырех украинских автоколонн три задействованы на маршруте Бельбек - Николаев, а четвертая (командир - старший прапорщик Михаил Богданенко) - на маршруте Кировское - Николаев.

В репортаже утверждается про плохое техническое состояние возвращаемых Украине истребителей МиГ-29, дополнительно разукомплектовываемых перед передачей российской стороной. Говорится, что с каждого самолета русскими снимается до 11 блоков. http://bmpd.livejournal.com/849404.html

CNN wrote:
(CNN) -- Ukrainians are a lot less pro-Russian than separatists there would like the world to believe, even in regions along the border with Russia which are supposedly voting overwhelmingly to declare independence from Ukraine, a new poll for CNN suggests.

arpakola wrote:

CNN wrote:
(CNN) -- Ukrainians are a lot less pro-Russian than separatists there would like the world to believe, even in regions along the border with Russia which are supposedly voting overwhelmingly to declare independence from Ukraine, a new poll for CNN suggests.

so ..
why they are afraid of referendums ??

Guardian wrote:...
In a government office a few miles up the road the former commander of the protest camp's fighting wing, Andriy Parubiy, is now at the heart of the Kiev's attempts to counter the rebellion in the east. As head of the national security and defence council, he oversees Ukraine's security forces.
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Parubiy is spearheading attempts to co-opt Maidan activists into volunteer units that will fight alongside police, the army and special forces in the east.

Billboards across Kiev call for recruits for the re-formed national guard, which already has one battalion of about 400 volunteers deployed around the rebel-held town of Slavyansk.
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The strategy is not without risk. Some volunteer groups under the official jurisdiction of the interior ministry have been accused of leading the deadly violence in Mariupol and Krasnoarmeisk last week that helped to push local people into the arms of the rebels.
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While Vlasov feared for his life, others remained on Maidan because they were convinced the uprising had not ended with the removal of Yanukovych and had not yet been completed.