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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #9

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    Post  arpakola Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:33 pm

    arpakola wrote:Doniestsk airport .. Ukes are in the bunkers now.. 200 of them died during the operations






    a general comment regarding some posts above..
    guys .. if you dont have news to post , fotos , vids, etc..
    or you dont have something realy smart to comment .. dont waste badwidth..
    please...

    The Situation in the Ukraine. #9 - Page 13 7c89a9b1fb73a6cedb992eb3


    There was an attack  at the recruiting offices of the city Vysokopole in Herson

    They captured weaponary and released all recruits of the center


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    Post  fragmachine Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:38 pm

    etaepsilonk wrote:Man, all those pro-kremlin provocateurs, coming out of their hiding holes Rolling Eyes

    Little it surprises me though, with oil price declining so sharply, they must be desperate.
    Then it hits below 50 dollars, you can expect some "people's republics" to pop-up Laughing

    It will also be a perfect opportunity to take back ukrainian lands from the bear's claws.
    That's valid not only for recently occupied lands, but other territories as well, which the most merciful tsar "forgot" to return, like rostov, smolensk, tver Wink


    Oh look, the peaceful, democratic Ukraine...
    http://en.itar-tass.com/world/752909

    Oh please, shy away your kremlin propaganda.


    The most peaceful army in the world (ukrainian army) would never dare to descend to such putin-level-lowness.

    You forgot to add that Ukies are the only and real Slavic nation and rest like germanized Poles or asian Russians should be annihilated - Stephan Bandera way - immediatelly in order to preserve real Slavic population which is Ukrs and establish Ukr borders between Oder and Ural region... (i think I just like to respond to stupidity in it's own language).

    And now lets just celebrate with Kolomoysky in real jewish sentiment-like manner another defeat of our glorious heroic Ukrainian battalions in next few months Laughing
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:23 pm

    etaepsilonk wrote:Man, all those pro-kremlin provocateurs, coming out of their hiding holes Rolling Eyes

    Little it surprises me though, with oil price declining so sharply, they must be desperate.
    Then it hits below 50 dollars, you can expect some "people's republics" to pop-up Laughing

    It will also be a perfect opportunity to take back ukrainian lands from the bear's claws.
    That's valid not only for recently occupied lands, but other territories as well, which the most merciful tsar "forgot" to return, like rostov, smolensk, tver Wink


    Oh please, shy away your kremlin propaganda.


    The most peaceful army in the world (ukrainian army) would never dare to descend to such putin-level-lowness.

    That troll above seems like taken from MP.net..  Ukraine cannot pay its Gas through the winter and cannot handle  a significantly inferior army of Rebels with began all of them with light weapons and a dozen of light carriers , lacking in artillery and with no airforce and you really believe they can handle more territory with their economy or even take it by force from Russia ? lol1     Mr.. @etaepsilonk seems is smoking sulfuric acid ,and had serious brain damage. If Russia invaded Ukraine they will have taken Kiev in just a week and this is being careful of civilians casualties..because Russia had the tools to wipe Ukraine in just a day if they were as animals as the Right sector or minutes if use nukes. No NATO power will ever dare to step inside Russia or even in eastern Ukraine knowing the Big Kick on the ass they will get.
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    Post  gregoire Mon Oct 06, 2014 4:44 pm

    etaepsilonk wrote:
    gregoire wrote:
    etaepsilonk wrote:Ah, so we do agree that the so called "novorussia" is the invention of russian fascist regime? Good, I'm glad we got that straight Wink

    If russia is fascist then what is kiev to you?

    And what's with Kiev?

    Ukraine is a normal, democratic, european country.
    In fact, putler is jealous of ukraine's culture, economy and it's superbly humanitarian heroes, like stepan bandera, and is, therefore, trying to destroy Ukraine's success story as much as possible, so that russian people themselves wouldn't have an example to follow and wouldn't be threatening putler's despotic kgb junta's reign.

    Maybe you are not trying to be funny but you are.
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:37 pm

    gregoire wrote:
    etaepsilonk wrote:
    gregoire wrote:
    etaepsilonk wrote:Ah, so we do agree that the so called "novorussia" is the invention of russian fascist regime? Good, I'm glad we got that straight Wink

    If russia is fascist then what is kiev to you?

    And what's with Kiev?

    Ukraine is a normal, democratic, european country.
    In fact, putler is jealous of ukraine's culture, economy and it's superbly humanitarian heroes, like stepan bandera, and is, therefore, trying to destroy Ukraine's success story as much as possible, so that russian people themselves wouldn't have an example to follow and wouldn't be threatening putler's despotic kgb junta's reign.

    Maybe you are not trying to be funny but you are.

    He sold his account to some urkop or other russophobe?

    Or is that somehow a "long breath" action to let us think you are normal guy and then after months you came out of the closet as a nazi of democratic and peaceful ukropy whorehouse?
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    Post  Mike E Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:55 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    gregoire wrote:
    etaepsilonk wrote:
    gregoire wrote:
    etaepsilonk wrote:Ah, so we do agree that the so called "novorussia" is the invention of russian fascist regime? Good, I'm glad we got that straight Wink

    If russia is fascist then what is kiev to you?

    And what's with Kiev?

    Ukraine is a normal, democratic, european country.
    In fact, putler is jealous of ukraine's culture, economy and it's superbly humanitarian heroes, like stepan bandera, and is, therefore, trying to destroy Ukraine's success story as much as possible, so that russian people themselves wouldn't have an example to follow and wouldn't be threatening putler's despotic kgb junta's reign.

    Maybe you are not trying to be funny but you are.

    He sold his account to some urkop or other russophobe?

    Or is that somehow a "long breath" action to let us think you are normal guy and then after months you came out of the closet as a nazi of democratic and peaceful ukropy whorehouse?
    That seems to be the "new thing" here on RMF. - They come on here, gain a reputation, and *then* start trolling....
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    Post  etaepsilonk Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:42 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    gregoire wrote:
    etaepsilonk wrote:
    gregoire wrote:
    etaepsilonk wrote:Ah, so we do agree that the so called "novorussia" is the invention of russian fascist regime? Good, I'm glad we got that straight Wink

    If russia is fascist then what is kiev to you?

    And what's with Kiev?

    Ukraine is a normal, democratic, european country.
    In fact, putler is jealous of ukraine's culture, economy and it's superbly humanitarian heroes, like stepan bandera, and is, therefore, trying to destroy Ukraine's success story as much as possible, so that russian people themselves wouldn't have an example to follow and wouldn't be threatening putler's despotic kgb junta's reign.

    Maybe you are not trying to be funny but you are.

    He sold his account to some urkop or other russophobe?

    Or is that somehow a "long breath" action to let us think you are normal guy and then after months you came out of the closet as a nazi of democratic and peaceful ukropy whorehouse?


    Hahahahahaha. For some reason your comment reminds me of this Laughing
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    RMF is a serious bussiness, solving conspiracies 'n stuff Wink
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    Post  Mike E Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:47 pm

    Let's not fill this thread with crap. This page is full of trolling and fluff, get over it...

    Any news, at all?
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:26 pm

    And that comment about "conspiracy theorists" comes from a guy that called Ukraine democratic and peaceful and compared Putin with Hitler...

    Retarded level is over 9000.
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    Post  gregoire Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:44 pm

    Ok, well, I hope you're not talking about me. Because I won't turn into a nazi nor a fascists supporter. That I guarantee you.

    And, no. No news. Except open questions, like, what exactly is the OSCE and are they trustworthy/neutral?
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    Post  kvs Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:52 pm

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    Note the loss of pink color around Debaltsevo (to the east of Donetsk) and to the south of Donetsk
    a wedge is forming to the east from Ukr controlled territory. So while we have this "ceasefire", regime
    forces are trying to encircle Donetsk.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:58 am



    I really think the kiev junta it will be a matter of time ,days or few weeks ,they will start a massive attack invasion
    on Novorossiya controlled zone from all sides at same time. The anti-kiev militia needs to be ready to expect any
    illegal or criminal tactics.. like chemical weapons and even suicide bombers in cars full of TNT , that is hired ISIS mercenaries. Thats their common tactic is IRAQ and Syria.. they send waves of suicide bombers to a target they want to destroy. This means that they need to DIg trenches big enough to hold and totally stop tanks at least for a bit.. and anti armor mines too.. everywhere. i will also add.. air defenses in case they try to send dozens of planes
    at same time... is indeed very dangerous for novorrosiya the kind of forces kiev had placed. Russia also have to be ready to supply direct Fire support too from Russia territory.. if Kiev breaks the cease of fire. That will do the trick.
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    Post  kvs Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:07 am

    Vann7 wrote:

    I really think the kiev junta it will be a matter of time ,days or few weeks ,they will start a massive attack invasion
    on Novorossiya controlled zone from all sides at same time. The anti-kiev militia needs to be ready to expect any
    illegal or criminal tactics.. like chemical weapons and even suicide bombers in cars full of TNT  , that is hired ISIS mercenaries. Thats their common tactic is IRAQ and Syria.. they send waves of suicide bombers to a target they want to destroy. This means that they need to DIg trenches big enough to hold and totally stop tanks at least for a bit.. and anti armor mines too.. everywhere. i will also add.. air defenses in case they try to send dozens of planes
    at same time... is indeed very dangerous for novorrosiya the kind of forces kiev had placed.  Russia also have to be ready to supply direct Fire support too from Russia territory.. if Kiev breaks the cease of fire. That will do the trick.


    This is major breach of the ceasefire. There needs to be serious support in the pipeline for the rebels, including air support.
    The ceasefire is turning out to be a total ploy to help the Kiev regime make the most of its advantages (equipment and men).
    By stopping the rebels' dynamic, mobile warfare Kiev is given a chance to win. Of course if it was the rebels redrawing the
    map, NATO would be howling.

    Meanwhile drones fixate on Putin. Putin should act his projected role. There is no point appeasing NATO.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:26 am

    On other news.. Smile

    Tymoshenko.. the failed former President of Ukraine is saying Ukraine should not beg to Russia and pay its debt
    in full and without discount.. Shocked   That women really have a Big EGO.. like no other.. and for sure..
    Putin mush drooling on his offices.. imagine having Ukraine paying all their debts in Gas.. and for $500 bcm?
    That will certainly will be a nice boost for Russia economy..Very Happy

    http://en.itar-tass.com/world/753035

    unfortunately in practice she does another trick.. she may not beg for discounts but she will not have a problem
    stealing gas from the pipelines as she did before for extra profits..countering the big price for the gas.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:01 am

    Mike E wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:
    gregoire wrote:
    etaepsilonk wrote:
    gregoire wrote:
    etaepsilonk wrote:Ah, so we do agree that the so called "novorussia" is the invention of russian fascist regime? Good, I'm glad we got that straight Wink

    If russia is fascist then what is kiev to you?

    And what's with Kiev?

    Ukraine is a normal, democratic, european country.
    In fact, putler is jealous of ukraine's culture, economy and it's superbly humanitarian heroes, like stepan bandera, and is, therefore, trying to destroy Ukraine's success story as much as possible, so that russian people themselves wouldn't have an example to follow and wouldn't be threatening putler's despotic kgb junta's reign.

    Maybe you are not trying to be funny but you are.

    He sold his account to some urkop or other russophobe?

    Or is that somehow a "long breath" action to let us think you are normal guy and then after months you came out of the closet as a nazi of democratic and peaceful ukropy whorehouse?
    That seems to be the "new thing" here on RMF. - They come on here, gain a reputation, and *then* start trolling....

    Seems like that's a trend now, a deep-cover troll lol! lol1
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    Post  Mike E Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:05 am

    It doesn't make sense, either... Why not just *start* from the beginning?

    Off Topic

    On a side-note; http://en.itar-tass.com/economy/753041
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    Post  arpakola Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:29 am

    The Situation in the Ukraine. #9 - Page 13 JfnjCt0

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    CLAVA BANDERESTAN

    Были стойкие истинные арийцы, были трубачи, и песни, и марши, и крики "Германия превыше всего" И были ненависть и желание убивать...
    Только не нужно забывать, чем это все закончилось...

    http://made-inussr.livejournal.com/8002.html - цинк

    PS. Собственно, одна из главных причин нынешней фашистской вакханалии, это многолетняя системная работа по воспитанию молодых поколений жителей Украины в ненависти к России, Советскому Союзу и русским как таковым. Россия этот момент пустила на самотек, предоставив американцам возможность фактически безнаказанно лепить через систему образования и СМИ будущих "алярмиков", трупы которых потом были разбросаны на полях Донбасса.


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    Novorossiya sitrep 06/10/14

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    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2014/10/07/

    google translate No
    July 1 junta naturally violated truce with the Americans guarantee that Russia will not directly intervene, launched an offensive to destroy the New Russia. Work "PX" in June was not widely appreciated that later played a fatal role for the junta.
    launched an offensive to the junta successfully developed - having overwhelming superiority in armor, artillery, infantry and aviation over the host, the junta instead of direct frontal attacks on key points, the beginning they wrap around, striking at those areas where the militia because of a lack of forces could not create a proper density of troops. For example - against available Slovyansk besides captured in the spring of 6 BMD (including the famous "Nona"), 3 tanks, BMP 5 and 3 armored vehicles, as well as 3 pieces of artillery, the enemy concentrated more than 100 tanks and 300 other broneedinits more 80 artillery systems, including the "Tornadoes" and "Hurricanes", which is in July, have been widely used on the front. In the battle on July 2-4 Slovyansk, where the most capable forces Novorossia proved operationally bag. The last major road was blocked in the Slavonic, the remains of the garrison Nikolayevka (during the fighting, militia commander 2 committed actual treason, revealing Front) led by Motorola, barely caught in the center of the village, which was surrounded and virtually cut off from the Slavic. In battles for Mykolaivka, which decided the fate of Sloviansk besides betrayal took place and the kind of sabotage when set "PX" ATGM, at a crucial time not worked (defective was the whole batch of more than 30 pieces - these ATGM thrown into Slavic and then showed them the junta as trophies), which led to large losses militia under tank attack junta snapped Nikolaevka. Actually in the past, there have been cases systematically proceeds to the front of defective ammunition, anti-tank and anti-aircraft faulty equipment. And it's not the trophies from the battlefield or Ukrainian military units, and primarily supplies through the "PX". Whether it was the negligence or deliberate sabotage of a rhetorical question. Ultimately, the set of objective factors did drop Slav question time. And in Kiev and Donetsk, and in Moscow there were forces that were waiting for the projected final "Slavic epic" - the heroic death of small arms and parts thereof in Slavic boiler, and then could easily finish the New Russia. In Donetsk, one for the defense was not prepared, in fact - negotiated the surrender of the city (among the participants - the mayor of Donetsk Lukyanchenko, the police chief Pozhidaev Minister GB Khodakovsky DNI), which was attended by some leaders of the DNI and the representatives of the authorities so then (and in fact the beginning of July DNI existed for about 3 months) to obey fascist hunte.Na south to the border of southern group starts to move troops from the north of the Lugansk region Izvarino also is hit. The goal is simple - to surround and destroy Slovyansk squad rifle and at the same time on a converging path to build a giant "canna" for the whole of New Russia, cutting it off from Russia and thus cut off the channels of supply. In general, in the evening on July 4, after only 4 days after the start of the offensive junta New Russia was on the boundary of disaster. following is known Strelkova maneuver that leaves Slovyansk and Kramators'k and goes to Donetsk. Along the left Druzhkivka, Constantinovka, Semenivka. Due to the rear are not captured Soledar and force the junta in Artemovsk, no opportunities to create an intermediate position between Donetsk and Slavonic in Strelkova was not. With much less effort, it would still have been swept from the flank and threatened to guess a new boiler between Artem and Donetsk. Donetsk accelerates local plot to surrender the city. Lukyanchenko runs from Donetsk Kiev, runs Pozhidaev, local police subordinate Kiev finally disarmed, Khodakovsky takes the post of Minister GB DNR. Hysterical trip to Donetsk Kurginyan and subsequent hysterical same information attack on small, finally revealed the fact of secret negotiations of the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs and attempts to pass Donetsk junta. Soon out and Pushilin apparently associated with the case of a conspiracy. However, to completely suppress the fifth column in Donetsk failed, because the arrow was afraid to get a mini-war in the Donetsk between militia forces, so some figures of the plot escaped deserved punishment. From Moscow to control the process in the DNI was sent by General GB Antyufeev, which on the one hand smoothed out the consequences of the conspiracy, but on the other hand, began to arrange his men podgotovlivaya ground for political decisions favorable Moscow. For the same reasons, and has not developed a unified command - created with Strelkova coordinating structure, was able to provide only basic coordination, in general warlords pursue an independent policy. People like Kozitsyna, have not been reduced to a common denominator. Only then, Donetsk begins in earnest to prepare for defense, and the fact that he has not yet been taken (and in fact then a different kind of fifth column attendants Kurginyan yelled that the arrow passed slavyansk, surrender and Donetsk), in fact Gunmen then saved Donetsk and Donetsk National Republic. Nevertheless, the situation continued to worsen, the junta's troops following the retreating archery, reached the approaches to Donetsk, where stuck in the battle for the small towns. Was released Donetsk Airport - the attack was so strong that the militia had lost all Northwest checkpoints and kick junta pressed the DNR infantry into the city, an immediate breakthrough of the enemy in the city was prevented by the introduction of the battle of the last reserve - mechanized group "Hold" from several tanks and " castles ", while there is a serious risk that the increasing pressure, the defense could not stand and fall apart. Nevertheless, he was able to survive the crisis of the militia. Himself Donetsk from mid-July was subject to systematic shelling, which continue to this day. junta launched an offensive in the direction Debalcevo, threatened helpful Lisichanskiy projection Bezlera group was forced to retreat and set aside Dzerzhinsk directly to Gorlovka. In the fighting in mid-July was wounded deputy Rifle with a call sign "Prapor." While the junta has been linked battles on the outskirts of Donetsk for Karlivka, Sands, Avdiyivka and other settlements, shooters use this opportunity to take some of the forces under the Donetsk and tries with less compete for initsitivu using a favorable situation developed at Saur-Graves to cut a narrow corridor that ran from Amvrosiivka through marinating to Dmitrijevka and Deakovo, going further north to Izvarino, which was torn southern group. unfold fighting near tanneries and marinating in order to cut off the whole of South grouping. Only full adventurism Command South Groupings, advancing along the border with open wing militia provided so favorable vozmozhgnost that helped change the course of the war. July 17 situation exacerbates the fall of the Malaysian "Boeing". This story was obviously aimed at discrediting Russia and force her to stop military support of New Russia. "Boeing" was shot down by Ukrainian Su-25 R-60 missiles. Which was followed by a very clumsy attempt to blame it on the militias, and then Russia. Because of low kompetenetsii performers to do so failed, moreover, further raising of the topic more precisely junta fielded only responsible party. Therefore, the history of "Boeing" launched the "simmer" in Ukrainian and foreign media. In general, repeat the situation ala "South Korean Boeing in 1983," it was not possible. However, even the failed provocation ultimately did not prevent Russia announce something like a mixture of the Ebola virus and LIH. Offensive junta under Lugansk and Izvarino due to lack of strength, quickly stalled. Before the assault Lugansk, it never came, the attack on Izvarino failed. Panzer roll Lugansk airport via Alexandrovka allowed to drive to the airport strong armored group, but in the course of further fighting the junta was forced to leave the hall and knocked the airport was back in the pot. Front north of Lugansk started to get all the signs of positional. However, coupled with the failure under Lugansk, Donetsk junta bypassing the west could reach Lutugino intercept and track key (before it has been cut in Debalcevo). As a result, the supply of Donetsk hangs on a narrow thread-Izvarino Krasnodon-Thorez-Donetsk. July 22 to us from the border has been informed that due to the difficult situation in front of the outdoor preparing the deployment of Russian troops, the group of Russian troops on the border with Ukraine after discharge in late spring-early summer, once again rose to the April sizes. This was due to the fact that the onset of developing a Sloviansk, the junta tried to cut Lisichanskiy ledge while to strike involved forces released after failing to advance to Lugansk. The attack on the Rubezhnoye, Lisicansk and Syeverodonets'k junta led with overwhelming superiority in men and materiel. Shooters orders the Mozgovoi the abandonment of the projection (by the time Brain has worked in small due to a conflict with Bolotov and general anarchy of military structures) in order to avoid threats to the environment - despite the dissatisfaction of the decision, the order is executed - the militia departs, leaving Lisicansk, Popasnaya Severodonetsk and Rubezhnoye. Just July 22 unsuccessful attack on the tannery - militia captured marinating, but under the tannery met with Polish mercenaries and lost 2 tanks and infantry are quite a few setbacks, the wounded commander of the "Hold" Zaharchenko. According to our information, the input planned to carry out within 3 days in response to uhudushayuschuyusya situation. Was written and prepared text that our center supports the entry of peacekeepers to stop the killing of civilians in the Donbass, at the same time, talks about the purchase for upcoming events through our Centre of thousands of tons of fuel. However, the decision to open the input was not accepted and the willingness №1 was canceled. At the same time, the flywheel "PX" during July and soon grew junta fully felt his job. Trapped in the boiler after the fighting forces under Marinovka junta, "suddenly" began to bear huge losses from a massive fire MLRS and artillery batteries, There are of course not only disarmed military units (trophies in this class and in such amounts was not there). Loudest alarm sounded at Zelenopole when the "city" field camp was raided one of the teams stuck in South Kotle.Te picture viewed very unusual for that time (tens sozhennyh vehicles, tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored vehicles, dozens of corpses), soon became terrible commonplace. First "workers PX" or as they are referred to as "vacationers" (recently their presence openly acknowledged chief of military intelligence, General Petrovsky DNI) in the hinterland of New Russia appeared in July, not in August, as is commonly believed. In June, "vacationers" can be found on the "zero" or near the border. Itself "nulevka" became a convenient base for the application of sudden shocks to the troops of the junta, who could not find an antidote to such tactics, and eventually began to think over the idea related to the fact that the border must pass in order not to be subjected to systematic impact artillery and MLRS with all parties. In this regard, Russia's line in the final came down to the abandonment of an open confrontation with the United States (a repeated refusal of entry oktrytogo troops and negotiations with the Ukrainian oligarchy on the one hand and at the same time support the force of the uprising in the Donbas, which in July provided "Voentorg"). American "Voentorg" in this period worked to put it mildly weak, strengthen the work in August suggests that complacency times in July will not be repeated. In general, both "PX" in its submission to solve their problems on vooyusche territories of the Russian and American foreign policy. Since all supply lines were closed in the marinating and the position on the Saur-Tomb, South Grouping unable to break through to Izvarino began to suffer excruciatingly from a lack of fuel and ammunition. In the boiler were 3 full brigade - 24th Ombre Ombre 72th and 79th Airborne, units of other brigades, plus part of the gain. In total more than 6000 people and more than 200 armored vehicles. Nabolee suffered from the fire of the 72th Ombre. In parts was growing demoralization, the cases of surrender and escape to Russia. With the submission of Russia, who took part in these negotiations (at the level of generals Border Service), the junta put forward simple terms - a technique to take militia and move across the Russian border, giving soldiers the right to choose - to serve Ukraine or stay in Russia. Ultimately, having a greater strength than those that surrounded them, the junta troops stopped and stood on the defensive, which is gradually becoming a focal. Against the background of the devastating criticism incompetent command of their own troops, the junta relied that surrounded parts can at least perform the function of border control. It was another catastrophic mistake. Boiler began to disintegrate, and formed Izvarinsky Dkovsky boilers. Operation junta began to rapidly lose shape and the junta moved to a series of convulsive blows where for that still had some power. Himself a strategic plan to make the whole control of the border suffered a complete collapse. The onset of the main forces have taken Slovyansk and Kramators'k, just did not bring decisive results. Near Donetsk junta was involved in a grueling battle in the suburban communities, offensive in the Popasnaya eventually petered out in the streets of May Day, and departed to Stakhanov Alchevsk group Brain formed a tight defense, the junta did not break smogla.V general, we can say that the general objectives of the offensive began on July 1 achieved during the month was not. The reasons for this - a competent command Strelkova saved the army, the desperate resistance of the best units of the militia and of course the work of PX in all its senses. During this time, the army of New Russia has grown significantly in size, acquired technology (mostly captured), and even learned to restrain rather serious attack junta. The total balance of forces gradually began to decline in favor of the militia. Guerrilla battalions and units, gradually learned to be an army. In conditions of severe war - had to learn directly in the fighting. Trying to reverse the situation was made ​​in early August, when the junta refused to abmitsioznyh goals try to stay combat-ready forces to resolve the issues of cutting DNR LC and interception of communications between Lugansk and Russia. All this led to a series of violent and krovoprolitinyh fights, that was in the final decisions - to be or not to be Novorossia. C
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    Post  etaepsilonk Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:42 pm

    Werewolf, you know what's even more retarded?
    When the stooges like yourself are trying to give a totally serious answers to the obvious troll posts.
    One would think that you could have learned something after a third or fourth time, but if you so wish to present a complete idiot of yourself, please don't be mad if I'll continue to exploit it Wink
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:52 pm

    etaepsilonk wrote:Werewolf, you know what's even more retarded?
    When the stooges like yourself are trying to give a totally serious answers to the obvious troll posts.
    One would think that you could have learned something after a third or fourth time, but if you so wish to present a complete idiot of yourself, please don't be mad if I'll continue to exploit it Wink

    So what is your point ? Trying to be a comment educator ?

    Personally I do not think it is advisable to continously trolling in any kinds of topics in any kinds of forums.

    I don't know what do you plan to do next, but I would be very thankful to you if you start to comment seriously and not wasting any energy for meaningless acts.

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