The Situation in the Ukraine. #21

I see one AK-74M.

In other news...SLAVA PUKRAINE and their obscenely hideous APC's and their laughable/hilarious half-ass welds...

Da Gadfly:









Puts your local school bus seats to shame...




Da cramped interior increases armor and survivability, superior than any Moskal design...




Dem welds though....has the Moskal's shaking in their boots:




...Puts the BTR-4's welds to shame!!!

magnumcromagnon wrote:


...Puts the BTR-4's welds to shame!!!

They are even too slack to grind down the weld properly to try and make it look even.

marat wrote:

Regular wrote:
Anabolism from MP.NET in Saur-Mogila.

Well if that is him, I wish him all best and I hope he and his friends will be safe.
There was one more mp member who claimed that he is going to Donbas, but I cant remember his name now. He was banned immediately afther he posted that.
Edit: Baggings or smth like that was his nick iirc

Likewise!

Khepesh wrote:This afternoon at the tank biathlon at Torez ukrop terrorists killed a girl, born 2006 and burnt her brother, born 2008, by planting an explosive device. Reports vary, but it seems the device had been put on a Strela-10 or MT-LB in the static display for visitors to clamber over. Tank biathlon now suspended. http://ria.ru/world/20150924/1279563311.html#ixzz3mfGXvQdH

Edit: To be clear, this happened a few hours back and since the explosion it has been determined to be a terrorist act, not an accident. Basurin has stated it was a terrorist act and MGB have issued appeals for visitors who were at Torez today to hand over video and photos they had taken.

Jesus. There has to be a special place in hell for persons who do things like that.

Erk wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:


...Puts the BTR-4's welds to shame!!!

They are even too slack to grind down the weld properly to try and make it look even.

Some more legendary welds:




It's like an APC for midgets:

Hundreds of policemen are rounding up amber miners in the Volyn forests
in western Ukraine. The police along with other Ukrainian
law-enforcement agencies detained four vehicles and more than a dozen
individuals in the forests.
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=522_1443089152#mgzZM5lBhfE7IcwV.99

Any idea who exactly and where these people are??

UAF Soldiers Angry with their return back Home

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b0_1443138647

PapaDragon wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:In other news...SLAVA PUKRAINE and their obscenely hideous APC's and their laughable/hilarious half-ass welds...

Da Gadfly:









Puts your local school bus seats to shame...




Da cramped interior increases armor and survivability, superior than any Moskal design...




Dem welds though....has the Moskal's shaking in their boots:




...Puts the BTR-4's welds to shame!!!

I guess I should take this opportunity to apologize to all the Somali mechanics and drivers I made fun of over the years...

And rightly you should! This vehicle is world wide state of the art, resistant to point blank 12 cm antitank shells, 200 kilo mines, flamethrowers, and ticked off terrorist babushka moskali with fire in their eyes and a cooking spoon in their hands. At a million dollars each they are expensive but nothing is too expensive for our SLABA OOKRANE! GEMROIDEM SLABA! brave and loyal soldiers. The Roshen Chocolate and Toilet Brush Factory located in Pigfahrt village in Lemberg Region has graciously agreed to donate their time in construction of these fabulous armored vehicles for our SLABA OOKRANE! GEMROIDEM SLABA! boys serving against the huge moskal army, hence our ability to hold the price to a paltry million bucks each, exactly 50% of the original contract price. NATO is so impressed with the pre production vehicles and the in depth tests they witnessed last week that they have agreed to fund the purchase of these vehicles, 1253 of which we will produce by next weekend and rush to our brave SLABA OOKRANE! GEMROIDEM SLABA! and invincible SLABA OOKRANE! GEMROIDEM SLABA! soldiers fighting the attacking hordes of moskali invaders soiling our sainted SLABA OOKRANE! GEMROIDEM SLABA! land.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:All you need to do to destroy America is to have a bunch of Islamic nutheads detonate a nuclear bomb over NY - the EMP impulse will in a matter of seconds turn 99% of electronics in the city into junk. If similar actions are done in 3-4 other cities (LA, SF, maybe Chicago and Boston), the mighty America turns into a third world country (almost)

A natural disaster like an earthquake would be far worse than an EMP blast.

All they need to do is fly in lots of replacement electronics to recover from EMP, that would be pretty quick compared to recovering from an earthquake or hurricane.

The exact cause of the explosion at Torez is still not confirmed, but it is known that the Strela-10 had no missiles, and if it had been an accident with a missile then the consequences would have been more severe. Reading between the lines of various reports it seems the girl had been suddenly and severely burnt by an explosion that did not cause fragmentation. At a superficial reading it could be argued that this could only have been due to propellant of a missile igniting, but they say there was no missiles on board. It can be seen from Kassad and other commentators that nobody is really sure what happened, but it is still officially a terror attack. I'm not going to lay out the specifics, but anybody familiar with anti-terror operations will know about blast bomb booby traps using gasoline and that they can be quite small yet create an intense fireball, and no fragmentation. I guess we will know exactly what happened in the next days, but I'm still inclined to think it was an attack and not an accident until proved otherwise. http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2402353.html

Our information from up north says it was an attack. NAF is asking anyone with photos or vids of any part of the biathlon to bring them to NAF.

Terrorist or not.. Children should not be close to military hardware ever.. specially in a war zone.
Eastern Ukraine is still in a state of war ,with Kiev.. and if it wasn't a terrorist attack..it could
have been artillery or rocket shelling from Kiev on their positions.

How about Russia cut all gas supply to Ukraine and let Chris Murphy do the job instead ?

http://www.rt.com/business/316483-ukraine-russia-debt-us/

The US and other countries should do everything to grant Ukraine the legal right to shrug off its $3 billion Russian debt due in December, said US Senator Chris Murphy of the Foreign Relations Committee in an interview with the Sputnik news agency.

"The international community should make it clear that we should take whatever steps necessary to give Ukraine the legal cover it needs to walk away from that debt…I don’t think Ukraine should be obligated to pay Russia back a dime," said the Connecticut senator to the agency on Thursday.

The US has been "treating Russia with kid gloves on this question of the debt that Ukraine owes it,” Murphy added.

Here comes another perfect opportunity for Kiev to shoot itself in the foot.

KIEV, September 25 /TASS/. The Kiev government intends to expand sanctions against Russia, the Ukrainian government wrote on its page in Twitter. "Now, we are pondering the imposition of additional sanctions against Russian companies. All the details will come later," Ukraine’s cabinet of ministers said.

Last Thursday, the National Bank of Ukraine reported that it had started working out mechanisms and concrete measures against banks and individuals mentioned in President Poroshenko’s decree on sanctions jointly with the Ukrainian government, Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) and the Prosecutor General’s Office. "The National Bank of Ukraine is taking all necessary measures to work out mechanisms of enforcement and monitoring the implementation of personal economic sanctions and other restrictive measures imposed by Poroshenko’s decree," the National Bank of Ukraine said in its address to Ukraine’s banking sector.

The Poroshenko-imposed personal economic sanctions affected 29 Russian banks, including the Bank of Moscow, which has a 100% ‘sister’ in Ukraine - BM Bank (Kiev), and Gazprombank, which used to credit all major Ukrainian enterprises.

Experts believe that the Ukrainian authorities will not dare to expand sanctions on Russian banks in which many Ukrainian companies and individuals keep their money. Besides, the Russian banks in Ukraine can be used as an additional resource for crediting the Ukrainian economy. "The key risk for us is the loss of Russian capital by all sectors of Ukrainian economy. If that happens, that will deepen Ukraine’s recession; speed up inflation and lead to the collapse of the banking sector. Besides, the Russian side can claim its debts back. Russian banks have credited a considerable part of Ukraine’s economy," analyst Anton Soroko from the FINAM investment holding said.

On September 16, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko signed a decree extending a list of sanctions against Russia. It includes 105 legal entities and 388 individuals.

auslander wrote:Our information from up north says it was an attack. NAF is asking anyone with photos or vids of any part of the biathlon to bring them to NAF.

Video with Basurin on the subject

http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/basurin-explosive-device-kills-9-year.html

JohninMK wrote:

auslander wrote:Our information from up north says it was an attack. NAF is asking anyone with photos or vids of any part of the biathlon to bring them to NAF.

Video with Basurin on the subject

http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/basurin-explosive-device-kills-9-year.html

There is no doubt now that it was a terror attack. The boy is very badly burned, his sister died of her burns and the boy will probably not survive either.

Ukraine bars all Russian civil flights over its airspace starting on October 25. #BrotherNation #Partner #Transnistria #EuroMaidan

https://twitter.com/dneprcity/status/647483281420779520

If I were Putin I would not sell any gas to Ukraine and let the Poroshenko government die. Taiwan is not hostile like this to China. Austria is not hostile like this to Germany. And here we are. Russian speaking Ukrainians treating Russia like dirt, taking pride hating Russia, taking pride kissing up to Americans. Yuck!

PapaDragon wrote:
This article is mostly about Syria but it touches upon Ukraine and it looks like certain taboo-scary phrase has been mentioned in positive context.

Poor Porkins and his but buddies...

http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150925/1027542154/us-pivot-russia.html

........According to an article by columnist Ishaan Tharoor in the Washington Post, Obama and Kerry considered that option before. Three years ago Russia’s UN envoy Vitaly Churkin told Martii Ahtisaari, a Finnish diplomat and a Nobel laureate, that Assad was willing to enter talks with the opposition and "finding an elegant way for Assad to step down" was highly possible.
That was one year after war broke out, and the casualty count was less than 10,000, Smith underscored.

Cooperation on Syria can also carry over to other issues, including Ukraine. According to the author, Washington has had the wrong end of the stick both in Ukraine and Syria.

"Federalizing Ukraine is sound policy, never mind that Moscow favors it. So do Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Rome, and the European Union. In the medium term, this could get the US past a degree of hostility in its relations with Russia that never needed to get so out of hand," he wrote.........................[/b]

Someone westwards suggested ''federalization''...  

Forget it, past beyond the point of no return. No federation status, the state dissolves like the invented nation that it is.

Selective default ?

http://sputniknews.com/business/20150925/1027544540/ukraine-rating-selective-default.html

MOSCOW (Sputnik) – The agency has confirmed the long- and short-term ratings of Ukraine’s currency at CC+/C with the long-term rating for its national currency as negative.

Selective default occurs when the borrower cannot pay one or more of its obligations, but continues to pay on others.

The United States, a number of European countries as well as some of Ukraine’s private creditors agreed in August to write-down an $18 billion debt the country has been unable to pay.

While other creditors have agreed to take as much as a 20 percent write-down on the principal of the bonds issued to Ukraine, Russia has insisted that Ukraine repay in full the amount Moscow loaned it in December 2013.

auslander wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

auslander wrote:Our information from up north says it was an attack. NAF is asking anyone with photos or vids of any part of the biathlon to bring them to NAF.

Video with Basurin on the subject

http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/basurin-explosive-device-kills-9-year.html

There is no doubt now that it was a terror attack. The boy is very badly burned, his sister died of her burns and the boy will probably not survive either.

Terrible. Hope those responsible will be hunted down. But how the hell someone could infiltrate and plant the bomb in such event? Sounds crazy, or separatists have rats among them.

Regular wrote:

auslander wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

auslander wrote:Our information from up north says it was an attack. NAF is asking anyone with photos or vids of any part of the biathlon to bring them to NAF.

Video with Basurin on the subject

http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/basurin-explosive-device-kills-9-year.html

There is no doubt now that it was a terror attack. The boy is very badly burned, his sister died of her burns and the boy will probably not survive either.

Terrible. Hope those responsible will be hunted down. But how the hell someone could infiltrate and plant the bomb in such event? Sounds crazy, or separatists have rats among them.  

I hope so too but let's face it, it is not going to happen.

Donbass people have been denied of human rights by the international community which means that Donbass people, even children, can be murdered without punishment.