Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

I don't believe for a second this virus is being transmit to warships that were never in land by air...
if that was the case.. then europe will have the virus and spread evenly .. but this is not how it happens.
Germany and italy are heavily infested by the virus.. but not a single american troops infested there..  and many thousands of civilians who live outside the base in civilian cities work in american bases.. also this soldiers leave the base to go shopping in the cities.. and they have 100 military bases in italy and in germany. so if this virus
spread by the wind long distance so easily , the why poland who shares a big borders with germany ,and baltics are next to invisible to the coronavirus?   so the best way to spot the fraud , is by observing how the virus is so selective in europe the countries that attack... spain is heavily infested but portugal is not..  iran heavily infested
but turkey and azerbaijan almost nothing.. china heavily infested ,but tajikistan ,kazakistan not..

take a look at the map.. of covid-19 progress.
it doesn't take a degree in rocket engineering to understand this virus doesn't spread in a normal way
but in a extremely selective way..

https://google.org/crisisresponse/covid19-map?hl=en

take a look at china with 80k infestions..   while mongolia that shares a border.. with china and they do business
and had borders open ,they only had less than a dozen.. since the crisis began.. Russia have a thousand confirmed cases.. but kazakistan who shares a border with Russia and china    surprise surprise only 100 cases reported and kazakistan receive help from russia in technology and equipment and have very capable doctors trainned in russian universities.

Germany 45k. cases..  poland only 1000  
Iran have 32k cases of infections.. including gov.. but tukmenistan that shares a border.. zero !!!!!!  
Azerbaijan that also shares border with iran only 120...    
china 85k.. but vietnam that shares a border.. only 163 , this is not a mistake.. [1 6 3 ]...  
So this example of china-vietnam is the smoking gun ,the virus is a weapon.. because china and vietnam
have a lot of business.. and they share a big border and people move in both directions all the time..
so the authors of covid19 ,did not wanted to hit vietnam ,because they wanted to have some nations in asia
free of virus.. to relocate their factories in china. taiwan is neither hit..which is a very important
supplier of electronics to america , but all other islands hit very hard. japan is neither hit hard..

now the biggest mystery of all...
United States supposedly have 86,000 cases.. but mexico ,who have not closed its cities...
keeps its borders wide open.. and receive a lot of tourism from mexicans from US and from american.
only have 600 cases..  

Canada that shares a big border and have a very large number of chinese community ..only 4k.  

another big mystery is ,what are the probabilities ,that from the 100 senators US congress have..that near the only one and most spoken one against US wars...Rand Paul  is the one that get coronavirus?  this is the same
senator and the only one who was beaten by a neighbor on his own house and sent to hospital.. if this
really bad luck? or what's going on here?  this corona virus is a weapon.. and the US military and intelligence
agency are hand picking those that will be contaminated. to infest rand paul ,is a way to keep him quiet..
and silenced.

so the claim that winds is spreading the virus far distances ,
this is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
this is not the way virus behave in the world wide map..
The world map ,of corona virus cases.. tells another story.
is being spread in very artificial ways.. there is absolutely no reason why turkmenistan,azerbajian and pakistan
will had so little covid19 ,or completely zero virus ,while iran is suffering so much ,including top members of
the government.
 
what we witness is , a lethal virus that is incredibly selective and jump large distances ,bypass nations..
and attack more heavily the countries that have have been in a trade war with trump.. are the most
affected.. and that  United States gov are extremely significantly inflating their numbers , because neither canada or mexico are compatible with what US experience.. it is also how convenient vietnam ,who shares a border with china ,and was being proposed by Trump to replace china ,is barely hit by the virus.. and vietnam
is heavily populated and don't have the quality health services that china have.. and they do a lot of business
with china and their numbers are extremely low..

so that anyone who investigate the bigger picture.. how the virus spread world wide.. will see the obvious
elephant in the room.. that the virus is a bio weapon.. and the authors of it ,are hiding inflating its numbers..

just recently read.. that 30,000 american troops arrived in europe to germany (without face mask) ,
so is likely that a major take over will happen of germany and france governments.. they have the
military troops already in place.. and they will use the excuse of protecting europe from coronavirus..

this is probably the reason why france and germany refuse a total lock down.. inside the country.
to not allow US troops from a major take over ,over their nations.. interesting information by coincidence.
during the covid19 crisis.. US  have sent 20,000 troops additionally to germany ,"for the exercises" that they
cancelled later.. but the troops are there.. and this will be added to the 30,000 they have already..
so US deployments in europe are the largest in the past 25 years.. during the covid19 timeline. coincidence?
no they know russia suspect the covid19 is a bio weapon and they moving their pieces in place ,in case
Russia decide to do the unthinkable and attack them..  idiots in this forums can't imagine an scenario
where Russia "Strike first" US ,because they are weak minds and can't see beyond their noses.. the bigger
picture.. that US is already at war with Russia and China. and they have been attacked with
bioweapons.. and that things will only get worse and worse and much worse.. people don't understand ,
that if war is already happening.. and US intentions is total destruction of china and Russia ,by dragging down
their economies.. and that if they are already using biological weapons of mass destruction.. and that this attacks
will not stop.. so the US and chinese militaries could reach the conclusion that a world war with US can't be avoided . and so they could realize that if war can't be avoided.. then they will strike back..in a painful way for
aggressors.

this is why for me ,will not be surprising if this covid19 incident, becomes the start of a major biological war.. that will begin when  Russia and china strike back at US with bio weapons too.. and if this happens it is going to be a very long war ,that could be even more lethal than a nuclear war.  US troops in europe are likely vaccinated from covid19.. for a year or more.. and only middle class and poors not vaccinated in america from it. ie.. sacrifice those who live from social aid and food stamps.

30, 000 soldiers arrive in Europe without masks

https://www.voltairenet.org/article209437.html

The United States are demonstrating their power by organizing the largest transfer of their troops in Europe on the occasion of the Defender Europe 20 exercises. This country, which only a few years ago sacrificed its soldiers without warning in its nuclear tests, is taking no precautions for its soldiers faced with the corona virus epidemic.

boris johnson infected with corona virus...  

a likely distraction event .  check....

https://sputniknews.com/uk/202003271078727742-uk-prime-minister-boris-johnson-reportedly-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/

The first daughter is staying home, but not even a pandemic can stop her building her personal brand
Ivanka Trump has been working from home since Friday, after coming into close contact with an Australian politician who tested positive for the coronavirus.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/mar/19/ivanka-trump-coronavirus-brand

all this distractions their goal.. are the same ,that magicians ,when they create distractions..
so to mislead people and not look at the important things ,so they don't realize what is really happening.
which is..

That covid19 is a biological weapon and US and potentially UK are partners in this crime...
so the anglo jews government creates a lot of distractions , fake news , or real controlled virus attacks.
to deviate world attention ,into them being the master minds of the attack on europe and china..
because if even ivanka needs to self contain.. and johson "got the virus" , then it will be impossible
that US attacked china if later the virus targets a lot too US.  this is similar to US war on oil prices..
that they intentionally flood the market with fracking oil ,to bring down oil prices.. to damage Russia
economy.  this hurt US energy industry ,and makes many fracking companies go out of business ,but it hurts
10x times more Russia..  since Russia economy near half of its budget comes from profits of Russia energy industry.... while US economy.. only 5-7% of it profit from US private energy industry.

This corona virus main goal seems to be to stop china...economy ,to break it.. and to break those nations in
Europe who was leading the resistance to US sanctions war on Russia and china.. and it will have been incredibly
obvious it was an attack.. if only their enemies get the virus and US and major close allies.. not touched..
so now that china have spoken and pointed fingers at US for the coronavirus source.. they are likely now handpicking elder people to sacrifice in US ,that likely were already in hospital and have them quarantine even before they get the virus, to make it look.. they are victims of the virus and not the authors of it.. they could  hand pick a few us soldiers ,to be "infested" by covid19 for show..  but is all a fraud.. made to hide people
attention of the fact that covid19 is a biological attack of US military on adversaries .
but mark my words.. US business will be back to work in a few weeks and will experience a miracle healing..
trump already hinted ,he wants the covid19 quarantine to end very soon.

in my opinion they tested the covid 19 in US territory in 2018 and 2019 ,in heavily controlled conditions in hand picked places ,to test if they can control it.. and they called "season flu or influenza" , but it had to be the same virus that the world face today..and they simply practiced how to deal with it ,way before the big attack happened. US gov already planted stories ,that will allow them to save face.. if the world proof covid19 started
in US and not in china.  this is why i said before.. the key to understand how smart US elites can be.. is to understand how WTC 911 was done..  all this terror attacks on other countries or their own citizens..That american elite do in the world , are heavily tested ,heavily scripted, and controlled and practiced years earlier before it happen. as if it was a movie.. and they call it "simulations of terrorist attacks" how to respond, but what they don't say those are practices ,of how to get away with major terror attacks they planning on their country
or enemy nations.. is a possible of controlled chaos.. that terrorism is controlled in a way that benefits them ,and damage completely their enemies. one example of this controlled chaos.. will be a bioattack on russia scientific community and space industry ,on their scientist.. and later that same virus target thousands of elder people
that was living on food stamps in america.  so this kind of terrorist attack will benefit enormously to US and damage Russia while at same time ,they can use their own losses as a cover to hide their hands in the bioattack.

If this is true , so it's a truly new beast  

The new coronavirus can likely remain airborne for some time. That doesn’t mean we’re doomed

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-can-become-aerosol-doesnt-mean-doomed/

Old news. Been reported early feb.

Also, Russian infections are going up like crazy.

Check this russian page for the info.

https://стопкоронавирус.рф

Regular wrote:Old news. Been reported early feb.

Also, Russian infections are going up like crazy.

Check this russian page for the info.

https://стопкоронавирус.рф

Actually, the infections have been following the predicted exponential curve. This sort of hysteria "like crazy" is exactly the sort
of plausible "fact" ignorance that anti-Russian propaganda is based on.

The only parameter that matters for Russia is the total number of infections at their peak. Thanks to the correct containment policies
this peak will be lower than Italy in spite of the difference in population size. The peak in Russia will come much later than in Europe
and North America. This creates a lot of breathing room for the Russian medical system to respond.

And thanks to high rates of tuberculosis (due to the 1990s collapse) Russia has around 4 times more respirators per capita than most
western countries.

ahmedfire wrote:If this is true , so it's a truly new beast  

The new coronavirus can likely remain airborne for some time. That doesn’t mean we’re doomed

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/16/coronavirus-can-become-aerosol-doesnt-mean-doomed/

This article thinks that the aerosolization of SARS-Cov-2 is undetermined. There is clearly more than enough
evidence that it is spread by sneezing and coughing. Just like the flu.

The problem with generalizing about how fast SARS v2 sediments out of the air is that ambient relative humidity conditions
are not universal. So where it is drier, phlegm aerosol containing SARS v2 will hydrate more slowly and stay in the air longer.
It is big enough that coagulation with the background aerosol is a secondary factor. (If it was less than 10 nm in diameter then
it would be effectively scavenged by the pre-existing aerosol distribution such as the particulate in the accumulation
mode between 100 nm and 1000 nm).

Regular wrote:Old news. Been reported early feb.

Also, Russian infections are going up like crazy.

Check this russian page for the info.

https://стопкоронавирус.рф

Nope, they are following established trajectories

If you want to see them going up like crazy just check German numbers for today


Russia and Canada (for example) should have similar patterns due to population density and average distances between cities

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

The really scary numbers:

Closed Cases: 157,118

Cases which had an outcome:

Recovered / Discharged: 130,670 (83%)

Died: 26,448 (17%)

As time goes on the number of deaths out of closed cases has been increasing. This may indicate the input from countries where the
virus is progressing in the early stages and thus is skewing the statistics. But...

kvs wrote:https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

The really scary numbers:

Closed Cases: 157,118

Cases which had an outcome:

Recovered / Discharged:  130,670 (83%)

Died: 26,448 (17%)

As time goes on the number of deaths out of closed cases has been increasing.   This may indicate the input from countries where the
virus is progressing in the early stages and thus is skewing the statistics.   But...

Those numbers are nothing compared to the 21 million missing people in China.

Vladimir79 wrote:

kvs wrote:https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

The really scary numbers:

Closed Cases: 157,118

Cases which had an outcome:

Recovered / Discharged:  130,670 (83%)

Died: 26,448 (17%)

As time goes on the number of deaths out of closed cases has been increasing.   This may indicate the input from countries where the
virus is progressing in the early stages and thus is skewing the statistics.   But...

Those numbers are nothing compared to the 21 million missing people in China.  

Give a source for this figure or it means absolutely nothing. Others claim Putin has $100 billion in assets including stocks but
nobody has ever found any such assets. As they say in Russian: yazik kostei ne imeyit.

Even without a source this 21 million figure is absurd. If the virus was that lethal you would have had, by now, millions
of deaths in Europe. China could actually impose Draconian controls on movement and quarantine. For western snowflake
PC drones this means China is bad, for reality this means China could control the spread effectively. Instead of EU-tards
like the ones in Italy telling people to hug infected Chinese.

https://summit.news/2020/03/27/french-official-says-quarantine-should-not-be-enforced-in-migrant-areas-to-avoid-riots/

A top government official in France has admitted that draconian lockdown measures being imposed on the rest of the
population shouldn’t be implemented in the country’s migrant-heavy ghettos in order to prevent riots.

Send in the army to impose a cordon sanitaire, Escape from New York style, and let Allah sort them out.

https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1243536043221159939

Now we see why Draconian "oppressive" measures are needed. Humans are low IQ herd animals who think that lack of knowledge and
understanding is a sign of superiority. These idiots think that everything is OK only a month after the first infection peak. Retards.
They need to abide by movement controls for the rest of the year or six months at the very least. Having an ass itch is not any
sort of justification to break quarantine.

It is retards such as the above that will produce 21 million real deaths if not controlled. Send in the army and start shooting.
For the good of even the idiots themselves.

Vladimir79 wrote:

kvs wrote:https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

The really scary numbers:

Closed Cases: 157,118

Cases which had an outcome:

Recovered / Discharged:  130,670 (83%)

Died: 26,448 (17%)

As time goes on the number of deaths out of closed cases has been increasing.   This may indicate the input from countries where the
virus is progressing in the early stages and thus is skewing the statistics.   But...

Those numbers are nothing compared to the 21 million missing people in China.  

That's a huge number they can't camuflage it .

20 million missing means their average families count about 100 million who will search and talk everywhere about their missed family members .

ahmedfire wrote:

That's a huge number they can't camuflage it .

20 million missing means their average families count about 100 million who will search and talk everywhere about their missed family members .

21 million cell phone users just vanished.

Vladimir79 wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:

That's a huge number they can't camuflage it .

20 million missing means their average families count about 100 million who will search and talk everywhere about their missed family members .

21 million cell phone users just vanished.

I guess the below reasons are logical

It’s attainable that the nationwide lockdown in February was the rationale behind the drop within the numbers of landline customers as many corporations had been shut down.
Tang mentioned, “It is attainable that some migrant staff had two cellphone numbers earlier than. One is from their hometown, and the opposite is from the town they work in. In February, they could shut the quantity within the metropolis they work in as a result of they could not go there.”

It’s attainable that these staff might have gone to their dwelling metropolis for the Chinese language New 12 months and after the journey ban, they didn’t get an opportunity to come back again to China. It ought to be famous that in China there’s a fundamental month-to-month price to carry a cellphone account and nearly all of migrant staff, who belong to the bottom revenue group, doubtless solely have one cellphone account.

https://globalnewshut.com/is-china-hiding-covid-19-death-toll-21-million-cell-phones-disappeared-why/

Chinese generally have 2 or 3 phones each. Being at home means they just stop using all of them and could explain those theories.

21 millions can't be hidden. Either the hospitals are full and literally no one can go inside anymore or they immediatly burry the deads in fields. Large fields. That satelittes can see.

Chinese and asian cultures of not shaking hands and being not "intrusive" with other people helps fight the virus. All the opposite in western cultures and that's why Italy is facing so much infected.

Vladimir79 wrote:

ahmedfire wrote:

That's a huge number they can't camuflage it .

20 million missing means their average families count about 100 million who will search and talk everywhere about their missed family members .

21 million cell phone users just vanished.

We will see how many cell users will disappear in US.

I would love to see sorce on this 21 million dead Chinese thing

Sounds like some low effort 4chan nonsense because there's no way in hell anyone could cover that kind of population crater in this day and age



However if by some crazy chance it is true it would be a game changer because it would mean that China is capable of level of organisation, control and discipline other nations couldn't even begin to dream about

(Scrubs like Soviets couldn't even feed themselves let alone operate anywhere close to this level even in pre-digital era, this would be something awe-inspiring and wonder to behold)

It would mean that future truly belongs to Chinese and that USA and especially Europeans are done for completely and permanently

The figure is absurd because it fails agree with the rate of infection spread seen anywhere with this virus. After this
epic fail, there is another epic fail where the mortality rate would have to be closer to 100% than to the 3% value
estimated from Italy and elsewhere.

The disease would have to have been rampant in China for months if not years to reach such a death toll. Instead the
peak was in February of 2020 with an onset sometime in December of 2019.

All the clowns screeching that China is covering up the death toll do not provide any motive other than Chinese badness.
That is an infantile pattern of behaviour and not worth the time of day.

I expect Russia to be accused of covering up 210 million deaths any day now.

If true, those 21M Chinese didn't want to be tracked so they just took the cell phone batteries out/not recharged them or threw them away. Also they could be good only in certain areas but their owners r stuck in different provinces since travel bans were imposed.

Isos wrote:Chinese generally have 2 or 3 phones each. Being at home means they just stop using all of them and could explain those theories.

21 millions can't be hidden. Either the hospitals are full and literally no one can go inside anymore or they immediatly burry the deads in fields. Large fields. That satelittes can see.

Chinese and asian cultures of not shaking hands and being not "intrusive" with other people helps fight the virus. All the opposite in western cultures and that's why Italy is facing so much infected.

yes they can be hidden.. and even way more..

what happens is , if you connect the information you prodived.. that many chinese have 2-3 smartphones ,
they are electronics addicts.. and like to have the best technology of the best.. companies..

the other information you are missing is that in the quarantine.. it was not allowed people to have phones
in the hospital.. whatever enters in the hospital.. stay in the hospital until the crisis end... and so i saw in
chinese channel ,how one nurse ,could not use his brand new phone and was asked everyone with them ,to leave it in a room and not use it ,until the crisis end . the hospital provided them with communications at the same time every day with family.

what could be the reasons for this?
because chinese strongly believe the virus was a biological attack on their nation.. and you can hide
viruses inside a phone.. and use a phone to spread the virus in a room or a restaurant or hospital.. and
chinese have a major growing problem with the muslim in china.. so this is why they don't allow any electronics
in any crowded place.. aside that american journalist ,have been running 24 hours anti chinese propaganda..
make it look china wanted to start a genocide.. on its own population.. some even claimed that china created the virus to attack hong kong.. so personal phones are banned in hospitals.. people who enters there ,have to come
with nothing ,that unintentionally or intentionally could help spread the virus ,since anyone contaminated ,that touch the phone ,could pass the virus to another..

Orcs trying to get 'home' to orcland from Poland before orc borders are closed.

https://www.rt.com/news/484331-ukraine-poland-border-coronavirus/

kvs wrote:https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus

The really scary numbers:

Closed Cases: 157,118

Cases which had an outcome:

Recovered / Discharged:  130,670 (83%)

Died: 26,448 (17%)

As time goes on the number of deaths out of closed cases has been increasing.   This may indicate the input from countries where the virus is progressing in the early stages and thus is skewing the statistics.   But...

those numbers are nothing.. the real scary numbers.. is what nobody is talking about.. about the virus...
and was reported in RT , by one Russian doctor.. in Pulmonology. according to the Russian doctor.. that is one
of the most popular ones in Russia..for his studies and expert in the topic of covid-19..

Is that he told.. all those people.. that "recover" from the virus.. will have very short lives..
and will develop serious illness in their lungs.. if they don't receive therapy to repair their lungs
after the coronavirus leave the body. because the virus ,literary damage the lungs..and even if
the virus removed.. the damage will remain in place.. and he told it will be possible that many
people healed will only last 1 year more of life.. if don't receive a continuation therapy
for the repairing the damage done to their lungs by the virus.. so the virus according to him..
is a real beast.. is not like people believe.. that you get sick ,for a week or two and then the virus
will leave.. and everything will be alright..

Then if that doctor is correct.. then it could be a death sentence to anyone that get sick and is poor..
because not many will have the money to receive therapies to help the lungs improve its condition and the
the damages it suffered by the covid19.

So this is kind of strange .why such important information is not being told more.. because
if that is correct.. then literary americans and italians who "survive" the virus will be walking zombies.
i mention americans.. because US have one of the most expensive and worse health care systems in the world..
and mention italy ,because their nation economy is at the button. this is why i call fake news.. many of the reports.. in US of infested people.. .people literary lose 20% to 30% of their lungs ,while fighting covid19.
so the virus is not the only problem.. but the secondary consequences it creates too ,,even if the virus is defeated by medicine or body defenses. they claimed one nba played was infested and then survived..
and he was playing again banketball like nothing happened. but people who lose part of their lungs will
face respitatory problems possibly for the rest of their lives.. if they manage to survive more than a year..

So is really strange ,why US government is not taking more seriously covid19.. if anyone knew the virus is so nasty people will be closing the cities in not time.. to contain it.

I was looking at this virus curves and it seems that if patient goes on ventilator - they only have around 40% chance of recovery. The longer they stay on ventilation - the less chance they have to recover. So by looking at ICU patients you can determine how many of them will die no matter what.
Most of those deaths you see suddenly pop up in Italy after the peak are outcome of triage - people being hooked off the machines to make room for others with better prospects. "....until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast you down and take all that you hold dear"

I personally thought that patients on ventilation have higher chance of recovery than that. Or so gov wanted to make us feel. I can imagine what complications they get if they do survive this. Liver and lungs damaged. Few years left in a husk at best. Shattered teeth from ventilation pipe and convulsions and following bacterial infections are just a small thing compared to that. Even after those realities, my family members are going to summer house and enjoying a paid holiday by eating shashlik with their friends. And even now they think I'm over-reacting. Sheesh..

nomadski wrote:

This brings me to the anomaly of New Orleans versus Germany. There has been a spike in New Orleans. Where sewage systems were damaged, after the storms. Sewage leaking into large wetland and marshlands in city. Again the probability of insect transmission or virus evaporating from soiled ground water, into city. Germany has one of the best sewage systems, in the world. Again here low infection rates.

I suspect that the spike in New Orleans had a lot more to do with the huge numbers of people packed together having a good time celebrating Mardi Gras in February than anything else.