Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

U r the 1 bullshitting here! FYI, there was at least 1 accidental release in the USSR, at the height of the Cold War, killing at least 64 people:
According to FRONTLINE's interview with Dr. Kanatjan Alibekov, former first deputy chief for Biopreparat (the civilian part of the Soviet biological weapons program), the anthrax airborne leak had been caused by workers at the military facility who forgot to replace a filter in an exhaust system. The mistake was realized shortly after, but by then some anthrax spores were released. Alibekov says if the wind had been in the opposite direction that day--toward the city of Sverdlovsk--the death rate could have been in the hundreds of thousands.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plague/sverdlovsk/

A similar or simulated accident could occur in Wuhan. Can u prove it can't happen? The Titanic was supposedly "unsinkable" but it went down on its maiden voyage.

they see US military patents of corona virus ,way before china was attacked..

if they later weaponized it, why bother showing a patent & be blamed for it?
The "retired expert" u quote has no evidence, just his gut fillings.

Tsavo Lion wrote:U r the 1 bullshitting here! FYI, there was at least 1 accidental release in the USSR, at the height of the Cold War, killing at least 64 people:
According to FRONTLINE's interview with Dr. Kanatjan Alibekov, former first deputy chief for Biopreparat (the civilian part of the Soviet biological weapons program), the anthrax airborne leak had been caused by workers at the military facility who forgot to replace a filter in an exhaust system. The mistake was realized shortly after, but by then some anthrax spores were released. Alibekov says if the wind had been in the opposite direction that day--toward the city of Sverdlovsk--the death rate could have been in the hundreds of thousands.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/plague/sverdlovsk/

A similar or simulated accident could occur in Wuhan. Can u prove it can't happen? The Titanic supposedly unsinkable but it went down on its maiden voyage.

they see US military patents of corona virus ,way before china was attacked..

if they later weaponized it, why bother showing a patent & be blamed for it?
The "retired expert" u quote has no evidence, just his got fillings.

yes according to....
for us will be very easy to hire a soviet who migrated to america.. and pay him money and they will tell you any story.. you want.. according to a former soviet scientist.. who live in america.. he claimed Russia was developing novichok .. and he was the lead in the program.. yet Putin  denied soviet had any novichok program at all..
they had sars and others ,but united nations program disbanded the facility..
so the entire story was fake the entire story and the russia labs at those countries ,were all closed by united nations and they found no  novichok... that was supposed to kill thousands withing seconds according to wikipedia..but not a father and his dauther in park in britain.. that surprise surprise was also close to a biolab facility..

did you forgot how novichok incident happened close to a chemical weapons facility of uk ?
they love to run the same stories again and again.. chemical and bio accidents always they happen
.near a bio lab or chemical lab facility. this will help create the narrative ,when US facilities "explode"
near iran ,russia and china.. they are master in propaganda.. no doubt.

i also remember how a soviet kgb deserter was in US media claiming ,soviet union developed suitcases
with nuclear weapons inside..all the way to the 70s.. and that all of them dissapeared with the collapse
of soviet union and ended in the black market.. and then some of them ended in new york..
this actually was a fake story planted in US media ,for naive people like you, to blame russia
for a nuclear attack on new york city.. even obama hinted of a lose nuke could explode in new york..
what he don't told was who was going to be blamed for it.. of course Russia.. they already created the
story in their media..
US elites had always prophetic bullshit powers ,to predict far in the future major catastrophes..
that many people die..  what kind of kool aid they drink.

like i said ,you need to hold into unverified claims and try very very hard ,in order to support the story that
china had an accident and not even knew ,they had an accident until 2 months later..   because if they knew they had an accident.. then they will have quickly closed the fishing market.. instead of wait months to do it..   unless you also believe china wanted to kill its own people , for fun.. because comunism is evil no?  but logic and common sense and facts  never matters.. for you..   

if they knew they had an accident.. they will have shot down the market within the minutes the accident happened.

They had their own failings & local reasons for their actions, like stopping that doctor from "spreading rumors" so not to create panic, or they could not even be aware of any accidents at the lab.
If I have to correct ur spelling, since u don't know or bother to do it urself (I use shorthand here), it's should be clear to any1 that ur conspiracy theories don't worth the space ur long posts occupy. U talk too much- so stop worrying about, & don't lecture me!
DON'T BOTHER TO REPLY!

Tsavo Lion wrote:

if they knew they had an accident.. they will have shot down the market within the minutes the accident happened.

If I have to correct ur spelling, since u don't know or bother to do it urself (I use shorthand here), it's should be clear to any1 that ur conspiracy theories don't worth the space ur long posts occupy. U talk too much- so stop worrying about, & don't lecture me!
DON'T BOTHER TO REPLY!

now you are going to aljazzera media.. masters of propaganda ..
Qatar kingdom who supported alqaeda.. is behind that media.. now you have proven
how hopeless you are in any investigation.. they stopped reports about syria,, because
their narrative was failing so called moderates.. lol

lets be honest.. you don't want the truth.. you want to hold into a lie..

GarryB wrote:3M is a major American medical equipment producer located in China and it seems that US hospitals have been sending people with lots of money to intercept shipments of US products produced in China and divert them to the US.

Shipments paid for by countries like France and Germany are getting better bids on the airfield and diverted to the US, and new US laws actually make this legal and fair... US products go to US first... wonder how the EU feels about their special relationship right now...

China is exporting defective, unusable face masks, other protective gears on purpose.

This is what they have exported to Ireland

https://talksport.com/sport/mma/691189/ufc-conor-mcgregor-chinese-government/

@ Vann7

I read your article. To prove or disprove this virus outbreak, to be or otherwise not be from some source, is very difficult indeed. Because of the gravity of the problem, high standards of proof needed. I guess, even if investigations started now. That we will not know, or a court reach decision, for decades to come. Or maybe never reach verdict. About origin of virus.

But Virus, does not have to be artificially made, for it to be used as weapon. As GarryB said, supplies now diverted to USA, meant for other people. Also sanctions on some countries, reduce ability to fight virus. As is not sharing information. All these are clearly crimes. Against humanity.

This legal case of India, against China, for human rights violation, does not hold water. Since other similar measures would be in place, by other health authorities or governments, in similar situations. We have to balance the benefit of early release of information, against the harm of causing panic and disruption. I saw on TV, that a historian, also said that during the Spanish flu epidemic, authorities did not release real numbers. For same reason.

One way of proving the epidemic in USA , to be fake, without having access to hospitals. Is to collect environmental samples, from public places. Easily done. Then if no Virus detected, then epidemic not happening there. All countries can do this and collect information. The truth soon discovered.

That US carrier's problems just get worse, a real PR disaster on top of the conditions for poor crew. Maybe they only had 155 test kits.

Steve Herman
@W7VOA
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Of the USS Theodore Roosevelt crew tested for #COVID19, 44% (total of 155 sailors) are positive for the #coronavirus, according to the @USNavy
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The CVN-71 CO was made an example, & now other COs will be afraid to voice their concerns, resulting in more sailors, marines & ships out of action. Then they'll start testing new unproved vaccines on them, like they did with anthrax.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/05/politics/mark-esper-uss-theodore-roosevelt-defends-removal-cnntv/index.html

https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-update-cruise-ship-florida-1496174

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/04/trump-says-1000-military-personnel-are-deploying-to-new-york-city-to-fight-coronavirus.html

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-05-20/

https://mashable.com/article/coronavirus-white-house-press-briefings/

https://www.juancole.com/2020/04/journalistic-malpractice-seriousness.html

https://www.tucsonweekly.com/TheRange/archives/2020/04/04/your-southern-az-coronavirus-am-roundup-for-saturday-april-4-az-confirmed-cases-top-2k-more-businesses-closing-today

jhelb wrote:

GarryB wrote:3M is a major American medical equipment producer located in China and it seems that US hospitals have been sending people with lots of money to intercept shipments of US products produced in China and divert them to the US.

Shipments paid for by countries like France and Germany are getting better bids on the airfield and diverted to the US, and new US laws actually make this legal and fair... US products go to US first... wonder how the EU feels about their special relationship right now...

China is exporting defective, unusable face masks, other protective gears on purpose.

This is what they have exported to Ireland

https://talksport.com/sport/mma/691189/ufc-conor-mcgregor-chinese-government/

no.. thats a complete lie...
everyone of you chinese haters.. attribute evil behavior ,because that's what you have been trained too by your media ,if always claim .. china produce low quality , chinese gov repressive , and chinese are poors ,then eventually you will believe all that crap..

There is major western campaign by western media ,to demonize china at any opportunity they can...
the same happened with covid-19 test kits.. that were failing.. and in that incident.. turned to be test kits
produced by companies in china not authorized ,not certified by the chinese government.. Chinese government produce list of companies ,and products that have certification and all those problems that people find ,are they got them from non certified companies.. there are thousands of companies in china producing face mask and covid-19 test kits.. and you can't blame china government.. if you buy products not certified by an obscure company . If China quality was bad.. US ,Germany and France will not be stealing each other the face mask produced in china that they can get ..

nomadski wrote:
@ Vann7

But Virus, does not have to be artificially made, for it to be used as weapon. As GarryB said, supplies now diverted to USA,  meant for other people. Also sanctions on some countries, reduce ability to fight virus. As is not sharing information. All these are clearly crimes. Against humanity.

This legal case of India, against China, for human rights violation, does not hold water. Since other similar measures would be in place, by other health authorities or governments, in similar situations. We have to balance the benefit of early release of information, against the harm of causing panic and disruption. I saw on TV, that a historian, also said that during the Spanish flu epidemic, authorities did not release real numbers. For same reason.

One way of proving the epidemic in USA , to be fake, without having access to hospitals. Is to collect environmental samples, from public places. Easily done. Then if no Virus detected, then epidemic  not happening there.  All countries can do this and collect information. The truth soon discovered.

-The viruses when are man made.. they are modifications of existing viruses that they found ,in the environment. apparently there are natural corona viruses in the environment that are far less lethal..
and there are man made modifications of it.. done in military labs.. and this one is the one china faced.. and probably italy and europe too.. but im skeptic about US and UK , and their closest allies ie.. trump just yesterday told he don't believe in face mask.. and will leave it for people to decide if they want to wear face mask or not..                              

Coronavirus: Trump to defy 'voluntary' advice for Americans to wear masks

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52161529

US President Donald Trump has said he will not wear a face mask despite new medical guidance advising Americans to do so.

He could not see himself greeting "presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens" in the Oval Office while wearing one, he said.

He stressed that the guidance released on Friday was "voluntary".

"You do not have to do it," he said. "I don't think I'm going to be doing it."

what is this if not a confession that the entire pandemic/apocalipsis facing new york is fake..    
no mask need ,he is not scared about pandemic lies in US        

And i have been observing Trump for years.. and even though im not a fan.. and as bad as trump
is, one strange  behavior of Trump.. is that he don't like to lie... he even have said US have bases are in kurdistan oil zones , to take their oil..  he even call american media fake news..and    He is not supposed to do that.. this is the main line of defense of the american empire imagine that.. never in the history of US , any president have told the truth about american media.. is real complete fake news..   is so fake.. that when i want to know the truth about something quick.. things that are real scandals..  what i do.. is check cnn narrative.. then automatically knows what is not true..

mike pompeo honesty is also eye opening..
He went as far as saying that when he was in CIA need to take entire course of how to lie and deceive people.. in order to defend the interest of american empire project..    and the cia controls american mainstream media..

if a major world incident happen.. virus, a war , civil war ,government coup or a terrorist attack ,plane accident blamed on US adversaries.. look what cnn says..  his narrative.. and the probability that is the opposite of what they claim is very very high..  they will not lie about trivial things.. like weather for example.. like who won superbawl.. who won in boxing.. of who won oscars.. but any information ,that is extremely important for american empire interest and world image .they will completely lie.. this is  a company
that have used actors and created a fake middle east scenario in a studio , to fabricate a news report..
CNN ,Fox, NBC.. is not media.. but a CIA counter intelligence operation.. that seek to confuse people and feed
them with a false information..   Washington post use a lot "anonymous sources" so that you can't verify their claims.. or "Activist" ,  for me CNN or american big corporate media  is not garbage.. is actually very useful to know what is the propaganda the CIA is trying to push in the world.. over any major incident..
their repeat a lot their disinformation tactics and very easy to spot..   BBC another fake news media.. likes
to use a lot violins music  in the background and convince people of fake narrative ,playing people emotions    but they are as crazy as cnn. they have been exposed using photoshop.. in many of their reports about middle east.. and rt exposed many of those fake reports..

back to Trump.. trump hates to lie in a conference to his followers and people that support him..
and it is my opinion ,this is the reason of his completely erratic? behavior of not encouraging americans
to use face mask to save their lives..  he knows US crisis is fake.. is a circus.. .. fake crisis ,false flags
which is what happens in new york.. could die people for real..  but not for the reasons they claim..
9/11 is a perfect example of a massive fake terrorist attack.. false flag operation.. yes 3,000 people died
but it was not alqaeda who did it.. but Al-CIA-eda and FBIaeda who was behind it.. and could write a book
with all the holes in their stories..and smoking gun facts that totally destroy their foreign terrorist did it story.
So New York pandemic crisis is fake as hell.. and likely those reports of US soldiers infested too ,in the middle
of ocean..  away from any city..and not even trump is recommending people to use Face mask..and told everyone that is up to them if want to use face mask or not..  what is this if not a confession that the entire
thing is a hoax..?  

Even trump is not encouraging people to use face mask...  
thats because he knows the entire thing pandemic in US is fake ..

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52161529

so just imagine for a second ,that the president of a nation of US ,the maximum
leader.. refuse to advice people to use face mask..refuse to use face mask himself.
his family not even use face mask.. after so many deaths in the world
and so much "claimed deaths" by new york gov... in america..


so what does this tell you ? he is not remotely scared about being infested by the virus..
even putin use face mask.. chinese president too.. indian too.. so who have ears to listen.. who have
eyes to see.. not even trump take seriously the crisis in america.. and is because he knows
is fake.and he dislike to lie.. and whenever he can he avoid it.. .and the deep state aparatus in US ,is creating a fake pandemic crisis in US ,this explain why new york city allows people to enter and leave freely the city..
and have everyone infested or not in same hospital.
explain a lot why people can freely travel from one state to another..
explain why US troops in iraq ,their generals don't use face mask either..
while iraqui generals did it..  when US troops signed the document to return the base..
oh but you will hear the trolls ..saying.. "is because american culture is different to china"
apparently the american culture is also different to the entire world.. because european leaders
also use face mask. .  
idiots and trolls in this forum..will go to levels of bullshit ,unthinkable ,to explain , impossible
to explain things.. why not even trump encouraged americans to use face mask.. if they are facing
an apocalipsis in their nation..all this strange crazy behavior of trump ,confirms, that
US elites are manufacturing a fake crisis in america.. just like world trade center 9/11 was..
im curious about why all their false flags are always in new york.. perhaps they have the corrupt
people there in place.. to help with the lie.. with the support of the entire media apparatus in US..
it looks Russia and China don't have yet full complete,smoking gun evidence that US was behind
the wuhan virus . so their media approach is to flow with the current.. but...from time to time throw reports that debunk their entire story.. as the video sputnik released.. when US media was saying new york hospitals was a war zone and collapsing.. the video of sputnik filmed for 3 hours ,shows a totally peaceful quiet environment around the hospital.


like i told before..US media and government is lying about facing a crisis..
and that video evidence that proof is fake can't be reversed.. with better fake staged crisis in the future.
is like a women being caught cheating by his husband..in bed with another.. that she can't later reverse
her cheat.. by being very loyal wife weeks and month later.  


zero edge report.. (which is fake independent media )..about
"India.. taking to court China" notice the quotes.. is a perfect example  of how advanced misleading
reports can be.. it also proof , how big is the demonization campaign against china..  the report is written
in a way ,they make it looks indian government take to court china..  the real story?
that an indian lawyer.. was taking to a texas court china gov  for supposedly "creating"
in their labs the pandemic that the world experience.. .  

98% of the people in zero edge .. fall for the disinformation trap.. and though that india was sueing
china in court. but it was a perfect example how fake media operate..     such level of fraud was
very well hidden.. but some people who smelled shit on it.. discovered the fraud. the goal is always
the same.. those who created covid19.. wants world attention on china.. as the mastermind of the virus
and not in bill gates.. which "predicted" /planned it..

Now the big question for me.. is what is going to happen next?
If europe is not faking a virus..as it doesn't look they are.. and they were attacked too..
at least the euopeans nations trump was in a trade war.. and were being threatened with sanctions for
cooperating with china and russia business.  what are they going to do ?

it will be scary world to live ,what will follow next .. because a major biological war could happen next..
between US vs Europe ,Russia and china. im convinced world war 3 or 4.. depending how you count..
will be a biological war.. and nuclear weapons will become obsolete.. and not be ever used.. after covid19.

i can't forget about bill gates created video.. promoting that the world needs to prepare for a world wide
pandemic.. he show an slide of f-35s.. in line... flying and he saying those no longer will be needed.  
so even bill gates founded video was suggesting future wars will not be with guns but with viruses attacks.
he even mention bioterrorism..     basically he told all ,what they were planning to do...
bill gates is even making headlines recently for building a lot of bunkers in united states..  

i don't think trump have anything to do with this pandemic.. the plans were made a decade ago..
the shadow government ,super billionaires, CIA ,pentagon and military industrial complex is behind this attack..
so this the short term outcome of this biological long war.. that the world could face. is complete destruction
of tourism world wide.  and many airliners go bankrupt.. such level of pandemic incident ,could have only been
mastermined by incredibly rich super billionaires people ,(like bill gates and rockefellersand rothchild) that already have properties world wide and don't need to do any business . because of the damage this will cause to tourism world wide..and so many other industries.. hotel chains will collapse.. this threaten the european union
too.. existence.. and major destabilization of europe.. the virus seems was supposed to break china.. and ended
strengthening it.. as the new leader in the world.. in medical supplies ..

This also represent major huge problems for the future of US military and NATO could break too.. they have shown their hand already.. how they fight.. with bioweapons..  so the surprise element is over.. so now
any future US attack will not work well... because the screening on american citizens will be cloth naked.. and
xrays machines... and another big loser will be civilian drones.. they will be banned from all cities.. because drones can be used to spread viruses.. laws of territory will also change.. nations will not allow US planes to flight anywhere close to their territory.. could be used to spread a virus.. already RT told.. US was cancelling
the open skies treaty.. mmmmm.. what are they afraid now? that Europe ,russia or china could pay back them
with the same medicine..     So the complete lock down of airspace...for foreign nations could go this far.. the new security . it will be a bad idea for china ,to allow american airliners to fly over chinese airspace.. trust will be
totally lost.. we will live in a new world ,of social distancing.. international sports and olympics will be another casualty.. it will be very difficult to have security and tourism at same time.. and not many will want to travel.
and internet and home delivery ,drive thru windows ,will become the major way of doing business. already banks are not allowing people inside and only attending through cars .. so this is going to be a very different world
of people distancing .. ironically this helps bill gates dream of world depopulation.  

honestly after covid19.. Putin need to close the embassies of all nations that they don't have full trust..
not doing this will be encouraging another bio attack.. do all diplomacy with them through a border nation like findland..russia airspace fully locked to foreign nations civilian planes or not... and all flights of planes done only in russian made planes..  it will be a nightmare
to have security against bioweapons, if you don't take draconian measures and totally show down airspace..
nations with american military bases ,that can freely fly over their airspace??? dito.. germany will be crushed
if don't remove those US bases.. soon.. this will end the free travel in europe too..and free visa for all eu.

China is exporting defective, unusable face masks, other protective gears on purpose.

This is what they have exported to Ireland

Did you even read the article?

China is exporting defective, unusable face masks, other protective gears on purpose.

This is what they have exported to Ireland

Does not conform to required safety standards... that could mean they are just material masks to cover their faces rather than active charcoal hazmat suit level protection.

This is the original article from the Irish news website:

The head of the Healthy Service Executive has said 65% of the Personal Protective Equipment that arrived here from China last week does meet the required specification for use here.

Paul Reid said that the first batch that arrived is just 10% of the order.

Of this, he said the PPE has been divided into three categories.

The first category includes coveralls, gowns, goggles and face-shields that have been identified as suitable for use, accounting for 65% of the total order.

A further 15% of the order has been classified as "acceptable for healthcare worker use if the preferred product is not available".

However, Mr Reid said that 20% of the order that arrived here does not meet the requirements for general healthcare use.

He said that from this batch, the HSE will be using this material for other purposes, and this could include isolation units.

He said a specific issue relates to masks that do not meet the requirements for specific respiratory masks but may be used for other purposes.

In other words they are not damaged or faulty... they are just not suitable for use by healthcare professionals dealing with infected people.

You can read the original article here:

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0405/1128590-covid19-coronavirus-tracker/

Scroll down to the time 11:36.

Note they say in their next order they wont order the stuff they have rejected... so they clearly intend to order more products from these producers... who hasn't ordered something on line based on photos and a description and when it arrived realised it wasn't what they thought it was... welcome to the real world...

But the problem is that only the west would suggest it was on purpose to sabotage you personally... what a bunch of .

I still think Wuhan officials handled this worse than Chernobyl and Chinese central gov had to intervene to bring this under control. But other countries are not that much better. Look at US, their own states fight for medical equipment. It's chaos there.
Russian regions are collecting money by crowdfunding and begging for more PPE when Russia sends it to NATO countries and Serbia. Aventa-m is good stuff and these machines are hard to come up. Russians sending help to others only please liberasts who were against Putin and current gov but now they are in full support of this. Pathetic.

No point to love China or bash them too much, there's more pressing matters to deal with at the moment. It's like blaming someone starting a fire when it's still raging and that person could be helping extinguish it rather than go into fights.

The same goes for Chernobyl. I do not see any evidence of gross mishandling of the aftermath. In fact, it was very effective and had a small loss of life given the unprecedented nature of the operation.

Still, the mil. & civ. personnel there didn't have proper protection & many later died  of cancer.



https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/30/opinion/president-unfit-pandemic/

One of the biggest fraud in american history after 9/11 WTC..

You listen a lot american complains that china "did not warned on time" of the gravity
of the of the corona virus..  but china warned about it on early february and started a full lockdown
in wuhan and the entire nation in that month ..

in early march world health organization declared the virus pandemic.. but guess what?
disney world in orlando had its doors open for tourist all the way to end march

and take a look at some old official numbers.. that US was claimed to have in covid19..



so contrary to the rest of the planet..more than 1 month later..after china warned
of a virus that spread like wild fire.. US continue allowing gatherings in major park attractions all
the way to late march..  

Florida governor.. even in april 2 ,was still unsure if declare a lock down..  

https://www.theledger.com/news/20200403/coronavirus-florida-delayed-lockdown-decision-could-haunt-desantis

Trump no even use face mask and he did not encouraged anyone to use them.. he told ,
that is up to every american to decide to use face mask or not ...      

So can anyone explain to me.. why the American Government is not taking seriously what US
media was branding as apocaliptic event.. hospitals collapsing ,  "like a war zone" ,but contrary to europe
,contrary to russia ,contrary to Asia, contrary to china.. in US there is no real lockdown... people
allowed to freely move.. the infected people allowed to freely move from city to city ,to other states..  
and still in early april .  the governor of orlando was unsure of declaring a lock down in the state of florida.  

So why their lock down is more real on the media.. than in real practice?
why the US government don't take so seriously the pandemic event in united states..???  
oh noo.. "its the american culture" is different.. someone told me..  

i have a different theory.. United States is so careless about the virus.. so fearless..
so irresponsible , not giving a shit if the virus spread from one city to another,
from one state to another.. for the simple reasons. ....

That the entire thing in US is a hoax.. a fraud.. and they are fabricating a crisis
intentionally.. in their country , as a distraction ,to not raise suspicion ,so that people in the world ,does not
question ,why the entire world is dying and they are not..when not even the President trump is remotely
scared about contracting the virus.. and not cover his face.. is because they had to be vaccinated
from covid-19 even before china got it.. long time ago.. and not remotely worried about it..
and so they are most likely faking the entire thing... and anyone that dies..from age.. or that already
had illness of anything.. when they die.. they declared that the patient died of covid-19.. instead
of cancer.. or flu or any other thing.. after all no one will know really ,who is counting the numbers
in american and which patient they use to count.. this is why is need an official international investigation
of what is really going on in United States, they will have to open its hospitals,,for a team of virogist
so that they can verify if the covid-19 is what is really killing their people or if it is normal death causes
and they are artificially inflating their numbers to fool the world.. and distance from china accusations ,
that the virus was given by them..

The death rate in US neither match anything that europe ,asia ,china ,russia experience..
china death rate is like 4% italy death rate was much higher.. just today saw some graphs..
and doctors were stunned at the numbers that US shows.. that completely breaks the pattern
of what the rest of the world experience.. and this was a big puzzle for everyone ,specially
that US is one of the countries.. more careless.. and that less seriously take the virus.. of
the big nations.. allowing full movements of people in cities and cross state.. is a recipe for
disaster.. allowing the virus to spread ... but yet we are to believe that , they are facing a crisis..

american media throw the story that russia was lying with its numbers.. why so few..
but is US the one lying.. they are artificially inflating if not totally faking the entire thing..
and anyone who die of any illness ,is could be counted as "corona virus victim". but there is no
way to confirm what is going on in US .. since they don't allow any investigation.. not even allow
foreign media or film inside their hospital... their secrecy is very reavealing they are hiding something..

Even the same map.. legend above.. shows how ridiculous and misleading it..
they consider 10 death.. as a red zone for corona virus.. and color many states
with very few infested.. as red..  this is to enhance their fake crisis...  and why so many people in
new york and so little in the other states?  
when the states are full open..and free movement allowed.. they are hiding something
no question about it.. and people later don't say.. you weren't warned.. of the fraud.  

california who have far more citizens than new york.  have far less deaths than new york..
someone is manipulating a virus crisis and is not china.. or europe.. they did close their cities for real..
real lockdowns ,US who supposedly have more covid19 than any part of the world.. is running a
pandemic reality circus ... and many proffessionals discussing this   .. saw doctors today ,
that discussed the graphs of the death rate in US vs infested and could not explain US official numbers..
this fraud in US and UK likely happening too, will be impossible to hide for very long...doctors sooner or later
whistle blowers will speak.. this is why UK government is more and more trying accusing china of lying
the world and claiming the virus came from wuhan laboratory.. they know the world is discussing the fraud..
and they need to keep people attention on china.. and divert it away from them..

what israel government calls a "lockdown" is  that elder people don't go outside.. sweden last i saw is not
even doing anything.. just ignore the virus it will go away..
The good thing about this virus.. is that it will be very difficult to hide the fraud.. and once US exposed for
the major fraud in world history.. it will have to give a lot of explanations ,why they lied.. what they were hiding.  and a major international investigaton will be demanded to know what they were hiding.

recent numbers..

Canada infested/death = 12978 / 208
US ............................= 308,259/ 8,384
Mexico ....................... = 1,688/60

What is interesting in all this.. is that mexico not even closed its cities ,nothing, they did nothing
and still have so few cases.. there was a major pressure from US to close lock down its cities.
while they are not closing theirs.. mexico is the key to spot the fraud.. there was free transit from
US to mexico all the way to late march.. many mexicans and americans comes and go from side to side.
and still borders are open..

mexican president says he is not scared of pandemic events.. that mexico will be fine..

in more news..
today UK ministers are now joining forces with US openly promoting the chinese lab.."accident" fake story .
that conspiracy was planted in 2019 from the very start by US media..

UK ministers ‘no longer discounting’ theory that Covid-19 leaked from Wuhan lab – report

https://www.rt.com/uk/485026-ministers-china-laboratory-coronavirus/

the governor of orlando was unsure of declaring a lock down in the state of florida.

this shows the depth of his knowledge of the US; to clarify: the city of Orlando has a mayor, while Florida has a governor.
I've got friends in Arizona & NYC that got sick with the Covid19, 1 is in the hospital. Welcome to the small World!
By his logic, Ks of deaths in Italy & Spain, among of the more than 35K worldwide r also faked/miscategorized.
Trump wants to get reelected & had hoped he could ride it out like any seasonal flu. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/30/opinion/president-unfit-pandemic/

The problem is, it's 10x more contagious while most have no natural immunity to it.

Tsavo Lion wrote:

the governor of orlando was unsure of declaring a lock down in the state of florida.

this shows the depth of his knowledge of the US; to clarify: the city of Orlando has a mayor, while Florida has a governor.
I've got friends in Arizona & NYC that got sick with the Covid19, 1 is in the hospital. Welcome to the small World!
By his logic, Ks of deaths in Italy & Spain, among of the more than 35K worldwide r also faked/miscategorized.
Trump wants to get reelected & had hoped he could ride it out like any seasonal flu. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/30/opinion/president-unfit-pandemic/

The problem is, it's 10x more contagious while most have no natural immunity to it.

yeah and how they know is covid19? because the american  hospitals told them so?
they are even rigging the test kits.. and that are reporting falsely people as having
covid 19.. somewhere i read that..

and why trump is not closing down traffic from cities to cities..from state to state?
whats going on here? why trump not cover his face ,not even outside.. or in any meeting with any
foreign leader ?  ohh its because is thats the way american culture works ?
why trump told ,that is up to people if want to use face cover or not?  and that he will not use
it..because he take distance ?  

you are duped dude. trump and entire us government had to be vaccinated even before the virus
began in china..to show.. if there was a real risk for US national security they will
have closed cities..long time ago ,and every leader and general covering their faces..
what could be happening in US is a common flu.. or something similar.. possibly
spread by the same military , to help simulate a covid19 crisis. i bet that florida
will be reopen again in just 2-3 weeks..and they will experience a miracle healing..
and "covid19" magically disappear. in US.

kvs wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Got to keep the image of invincibility alive.

The captain was looking out for the safety and well-being for his crew, but his patriotism was punished in return.

From Cybersec's twitter:

"The dismissed commander of the aircraft carrier "Theodore Roosevelt" (Brett Crozier) receives a hero's send off by his crew"

https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1246277301131554817

magnumcromagnon wrote:

"The dismissed commander of the aircraft carrier "Theodore Roosevelt" (Brett Crozier)  receives a hero's send off by his crew"

Now the Captain is positive.

JohninMK wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

"The dismissed commander of the aircraft carrier "Theodore Roosevelt" (Brett Crozier)  receives a hero's send off by his crew"

Now the Captain is positive.

He was removed for political reasons (before it was confirmed), but it proves Crozier's point that Covid-19 is a threat to his whole crew.

Why the American Punditry Is Terrified of Russian Humanitarian Aid

It sure is a good thing that the Russians decided some ten years ago to fund a massive multi-lingual news network. It is also good that the Russian independent media pulls ten times their weight. Otherwise the fact that “poor backwards corrupt” Bearistan is now the one sending medical supplies to the U.S. would probably have been ignored.

A good example in the spin behind the story comes when we compare Fox’s and the Guardian’s take on it. They both ran very surprisingly neutral sounding headlines. “Russia sending plane filled with medical equipment to U.S. amid coronavirus pandemic“ and “Coronavirus: Russia sends plane full of medical supplies to U.S.” respectively. Although, the devil lies in the details of The Guardian’s subhead…

“Critics likely to claim Moscow will exploit goodwill gesture as public relations coup”.

This is a very odd statement to make as a news organization, for this is a vague prediction rather than news. Speculation about the future of the economy or an election cycle makes perfect sense, but trying to guess what opinions could be, makes it seem like the Guardian is trying to convince the reader of what they should be. And just who exactly are these critics and why do they matter? Movies have movie critics. Music has music critics. Does international humanitarian aid have its own form of critics? If so that would be by far the most boring content on YouTube.

The only real concrete criticism in the article came from a quoted Tweet from a member of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace…

“Hopefully someone will tell Trump that he’s playing right into a propaganda ploy”

Foreign Policy mirrored this attitude with their article…

“Beware of Bad Samaritans – China and Russia are sending medical aid to Italy and other coronavirus-stricken countries, but their motives aren’t so altruistic.”

Not surprisingly Russophobia’s shining light on a hill The Washington Post went with the headline…

“Trump called Russia’s coronavirus aid to the U.S. ‘very nice.’ Putin may use it as a propaganda coup.”

So ultimately as we sift through the Mainstream Media and their pundits’ reactions, we don’t see the old style Russia collusion narrative, but instead a new sort of warning to an ignorant orange skinned Trump about a “ploy” by Putin. After all, Russia’s willingness to help Italy deal with the Coronavirus situation in their country has allowed many impressive photos of Russian military transport and men seemingly moving about the boot-shaped peninsula freely. Other than for some sort of international military parade, it is hard to imagine Russia being able to get their “polite people” to do cooperative work deep in the historical heartland of NATO. But, the Coronavirus situation is a crisis, and any crisis can open up doors for change thought impossible just weeks before.

It must also be noted that the materials being delivered from Russia are commercial products produced within the countries that others could order/buy. The days of the Soviet Union are long gone and the supplies that Washington will receive come from Russia’s private sector but delivered on a government airplane.

Photo: This particular image of Russo-Italian cooperation quickly became iconic across the Russian internet. You can probably guess why.

Perhaps the Mainstream Media and punditry in the U.S. have become spooked by what is happening in Italy and subconsciously fear it could spread to America. This fear is probably doubled in the minds of those who are still convinced that Trump is a Manchurian candidate.

The likelihood of Russian green men being needed to “help out” on American soil is something we will probably never see in our lifetimes. And if you care about America’s national sovereignty you should hope it never happen at any point in the future. But what the punditry/geopolitics wonks really fear is that not only has Russia become an “unshuttable” countervoice in news media but Moscow is starting to take a segment of the humanitarian aid game that they will never give back.

Normally it is the exclusive unwritten right of the USA/West to be the ones to conduct Marshall Plans and send out all sorts of humanitarian aid with or without strings attached. In fact this is such a large part of U.S. foreign policy that we cannot forget that there is an entire official branch of the government that deals solely with it – USAID.

Photo: Washington decided to send humanitarian aid to Georgia right after their 2008 conflict with Russia. Is this pure philanthropy? And does Russia have the right to send aid to America’s unfavored nations?

In fact USAID is a very serious state organ and is funded to almost half of what the Russians pay for their entire military budget. The panicked punditry who are flipping out over Russian aid coming to America are probably afraid that the Russians can do more with less funding like they have done in the news media – budget-wise RT is completely outgunned and yet it is a smashing success that influences narratives even in the West.

There is one other factor that is creating a strong backlash from the mainstream punditry regarding assistance coming from Moscow – pure racism. The U.S. has used foreign aid and assistance to win favor (i.e. as propaganda “ploys”) for decades and this is perfectly reasonable. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the U.S. using its wealth to buy influence and positive views from across the world. This seems like a normal and natural thing to do that America just happens to be better at doing than pretty much anyone else. Good for America!

But, when Russians or the Chinese (or anyone Washington doesn’t like) tries to do exactly the same thing, now it is unacceptable. The logic looks something like “The Russians are sending humanitarian aid? It must be a ploy! They are inherently evil after all.” And this friends is the very definition of racism. Perhaps the geopolitics boys are just tweeting their basic primal fears that some other tribe is stomping on their territory.

What we are seeing in the Mainstream Media’s/Punditry’s reaction to Russian aid being sent to America:

They fear that Russia may shatter the virtual monopoly on foreign aid giving that the U.S./West possesses, in the same way they did in terms of news media.

The #Russiagate narrative is shifting from Trump being a Manchurian Candidate for Moscow to him being duped by Putin’s “ploys”. This leads one to believe #Russiagate may finally have died.

Automatically assuming that Russians providing foreign humanitarian aid is an evil scheme while the U.S. always does so altruistically is pure backwater hillbilly bigotry.

Fox and conservative media are less spooked and actually display tweets from the Russian side. This is another drop of evidence in the bucket, that for the near future the America Left will hate Russia and the American Right will hate China.

Russia was able to get their gesture into the public/media consciousness in the United States. Something that would have been unthinkable a decade ago.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/04/04/why-american-punditry-terrified-russian-humanitarian-aid/

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