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    Coronavirus pandemic 2019-20

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:47 pm

    kvs wrote:
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    Hole wrote:After Corona is under control this facilities will be there to improve the medical situation in the surrounding regions.

    How times have changed. A few decaces back Russia was constructing boring looking buildings made from grey concrete. Today even facilities build in a hurry receive a nice coat of paint, well designed signs and so on.

    Those boring grey buildings will outlive you and me and those hospitals. They could survive nuclear blast. It's not just concrete, soviets did have very good quality of rebars, their mesh block had much lover tolerances than what west did. Soviet flats didn't collapse like Chinese as well.
    Ugly - yes, but very sturdy and long lasting.

    There was nothing ugly about 1980s Soviet high rise apartment blocks.   They definitely did not have a worse aesthetic than numerous other such
    development projects around the world.   One of my colleagues owns an apartment in one of those "commie" blocks.   It is large, the quiet air circulation
    is top of the world (he is a smoker but the apartment does not smell of stale smoke), has its own tub and shower.   Thanks to the 1990s the
    elevators were not in good shape but were later replaced.  

    I have seen some really grey and drab facades in Russia, but that was some design choice and not universal.  

    1980's US had it's fair share of ugly project housing.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:59 pm

    it doesn't need to be artificial to be a weapon...
    it does, to ensure it would infect healthy people to be spread easier & not just animals as a natural virus does. If it was 100% natural, it would have started in S. China where the cave with bats r located, not any bio labs financed by the West.
    ..the virus could have been passed to china from US delegation.. specially because information that exist ,of US soldiers ,that could not compete in the olympics ,for being very sick..
    China used that theory for propaganda in response to US accusations. If it was true, the Chinese would've isolated/quarantined them & all who been in contact with them right away & notified the WHO right then if it got out of control.
    They could use tourists, journalists, diplomats & businessmen to bring it to Wuhan- just infecting travelers at train stations & airports heading there could do the trick.
    So IMO, the circumstantial evidence points to an inside job that doesn't involve any US soldiers coming to compete in Wuhan.
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:16 pm

    "
    15h
    Since 2015, 8 delegations of French government officials, scientists and health professionals have visited the P4 lab in Wuhan, most recently in March of 2019.

    France has far more knowledge and understanding of the situation than the US State Department.
    http://english.whiov.cas.cn/Exchange2016/F

    Ajit Singh
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    France: "We would like to make it clear that there is to this day no factual evidence corroborating recent reports in the US press linking the origins of Covid-19 and the work of the P4 laboratory of Wuhan, China" France24.com
    [/i]

    whoaaaah !!!!!!  lol1

    So is official.. folks. . US is becoming isolated in the world in their accusations against China...
    this is what i wanted to know ... which position europe will take.. france is not europe but the position of
    germany will very likely the same of france.. unless they are under threat /blackmail from US to say something else . Italy also is showing signals of supporting china and russia in the case US try to isolate them..
    If this covid-19 event is , what it looks to be.. ( a biological attack on china )

    Then the repercussions ,the consequences for US  (and the entire world) will be Apocalyptical ,
    because the trust in US will be over unless they agree to do reparation damages
    and major steps to punish masterminds of this biowarfare attack.. that doesn't look that trump is behind it..
    ut the Mega banking industry ,the super billionaire elite in the west and the military elite is a different story.
    Any failure in restoring relations , through reparation damages $$$ and punishing those responsible for
    covid-19... will mean world economy destruction and with no end in sight .when it will recover.
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:28 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    So IMO, the circumstantial evidence points to an inside job that doesn't involve any US soldiers coming to compete in Wuhan.


    So an inside job from china to attack their own nation ? and destroy their own economy? lol1
    alright .. and no it is not china ,the one spreading the soldiers infested story alone.. the videos
    i provided , that you never see ,because does not fit your narrative ,explained the death of
    nato soldiers delegation ,to a mysterious virus.. i also provided clear evidence that the "Accident"
    you claimed , that china had in wuhan.. without any fucking evidence believed that.. that happened
    in maryland in fort deterick.. want me to post you a mountain of evidence that a top biowarfare lab
    in America had the same accident you claimed china had (without evidence).. in a military base and many people died ? and that soldiers from that same military base ,were later sent to wuhan to participate in olympic games.
    so this connect the accident in fort detrick.. with the virus in wuhan ,through US soldiers.

    by the way ... here is how a real crisis.. looks like..
    ecuador have stockpile of bodies in cities at public places..
    looks like from a movie of zombies in an apocaliptic world

    https://beforeitsnews.com/health/2020/04/dead-bodies-litter-the-beaches-as-ecuador-sees-explosion-in-fatalities-from-the-coronavirus-video-3019888.html


    and trump want to reopen now for business.. lol1
    incredible also , that the most heaviest states for tourism.. like florida and nevada las vegas.
    did not began the lockdown until april.. So either they intentionally wanted to murder millions of people
    by promoting grouping of people ,or the entire crisis is fake and totally staged.. or is something in between..
    partly staged ,that is significantly inflated the numbers , and they neither care about people lives.


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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:59 pm

    As mentioned, it could be an accidental or deliberate, or a combination of both. Sending infected soldiers overseas would've infected many others in the US, besides the Chinese in Wuhan, yet the epidemic in China started from there & in the US from Seattle & NYC.
    The videos u posted have a lot of hearsay & no evidence whatsoever that could be independently verified.
    FYI, Dr. Charles Lieber wasn't involved in Covid-19 virus research:
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charles-lieber-arrested-coronavirus/

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-harvard-doctor-arrested-cor/false-headline-claim-harvard-professor-arrested-for-creating-and-selling-the-new-coronavirus-to-china-idUSKBN21P292

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/no-link-between-harvard-scientist-charles-lieber-and-coronavirus/

    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/02/why-did-chinese-university-hire-charles-lieber-do-battery-research#

    https://www.npr.org/2020/02/14/806128410/harvard-professors-arrest-raises-questions-about-scientific-openness


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    Post  Tingsay Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:07 am

    Conspiracy theories are stupid... But if there was a conspiracy I'd believe in, it is this.

    China was doubling down to study/find cures and vaccines for the large family of Coronaviruses since they have experienced this before with SARS in 2003. A move with  very good intentions.

    But due carelessness in whatever lab or labs, the virus got out. They didn't want the embarrasment or criticisms, so they kept it hidden for a time hoping they can fix the problem without the world even knowing. It didn't work so here we all are.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:41 am

    Tingsay wrote:Conspiracy theories are stupid... But if there was a conspiracy I'd believe in, it is this.

    China was doubling down to study/find cures and vaccines for the large family of Coronaviruses since they have experienced this before with SARS in 2003. A move with  very good intentions.

    But due carelessness in whatever lab or labs, the virus got out. They didn't want the embarrasment or criticisms, so they kept it hidden for a time hoping they can fix the problem without the world even knowing. It didn't work so here we all are.

    So how do you explain a Bio lab in North Carolina importing bats from China, and creating a crossover Corona virus back in 2015?
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    Post  kvs Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:20 am

    https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/04/18/623325/Why-the-US-has-torpedoed-the-entire-global-economy

    Wear tin foil hat at your leisure.

    The US accusations against China in the face of their own activity smell to High Heaven.

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    Post  Vann7 Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:10 pm

    Tingsay wrote:Conspiracy theories are stupid... But if there was a conspiracy I'd believe in, it is this.

    China was doubling down to study/find cures and vaccines for the large family of Coronaviruses since they have experienced this before with SARS in 2003. A move with  very good intentions.

    But due carelessness in whatever lab or labs, the virus got out. They didn't want the embarrasment or criticisms, so they kept it hidden for a time hoping they can fix the problem without the world even knowing. It didn't work so here we all are.

    im sorry to break your conspiracy.. but chinese investigations with corona viruses.. that there are many
    and most of them are not as lethal.... those research where done in collaboration with europe ,canada and american scientist.. so there was absolutely zero secrecy in this chinese program to legally find a way to
    defend from viruses early in 2000's they got.. and how to counter it..
    there are reports of American scientist , french scientist and canadian scientist who have defended china
    about the total transparency of their program and the very high security and quality of their labs.. then
    if you look at a previous post of mine ,you will see British scientist.. opposing trump claims.. that the virus
    came from wuhan lab.. because they traced the date of the virus to be months olders ,to the first ones cases
    that show up at wuhan.. so this destroy totally the possibility of an accident.. because if the virus escaped the lab.. then the samples of the people infected near the area ,will not be months old and will not be mutated
    several times..  so they found the virus in wuhan was already months old..


    in more news..  i don't know if the next information is true.. but if it is.. ?
    then this is very scandalous what is being told now ..about the pandemic in US.  

    If the information can be confirmed ,we could be dealing with the major fraud in the
    history of United States , the mother of all scandals.. there is one major famous doctor in US ,that write books and is very popular and well informed about the US department of health... DR Rashid buttar he is claiming
    the pandemic event in US is a total fraud..

    https://www.askdrbuttar.com

    He is accusing Anthony Fauci ,the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases .
    from 1984 to 2020.. this is trump right hand in dealing with covid-19..  take a look at all the things he told..  Shocked

    1) That fauci is artificially inflating the numbers of covid-19 in United States
    2) That Fauci is sending letters to all doctors.. nation wide that any one who show similar
        symptoms of respiratory problems of covid-19 and die.. that put in their certificate ,that
        they died from covid-19  Shocked
     this is fraud . deceiving the world community with a crisis
        that is artificially inflated..
    3) That anyone who was vaccinated with previous flu shot vaccines, can throw false positives about
         being infested with covid-19..
    4) that Anthony Fauci is a very corrupt person and criminal ,that he have a personal experience from
       a friend that is virulogist.. who was working with ebola in a laboratory , and she didn't knew exactly
       why she was doing ,what she was asked to do..  she basically was requested to do the ebola virus more
       lethal..more dangerous , more virulent.. and and she wanted to stop with her work.. when realized the
       very unethical and dangerous thing she was doing.. and that Anthony Fauci threatened her life and when  
       she went forward with refusing to continue ,she was framed to accuse her of something illegal and put her
        in jail for 5 years.   Shocked
    5)  Also he told Anthony Fauci requested money ,to the government to off source the investigations of corona
       virus to china.. basically for Anthony Fauci .. it was important ,that the corona viruses,. (That there are many
      ,some lethal and some of them not so.. it was important to have the studies of US done in china in that
       particular lab  (to frame china for the pandemic? ) and so instead US scientist were traveling back and forth
       to China ,to do many of their research in china..
    6) Now the best one... Dr Rashid.. claims that in 2017.. Fauci.. was predicting that Trump will face
       a major pandemic event world wide.. So he reason.. how can they predict such things from years before it
        happen.. when they can't predict the economy ,how it will change just 3 days later..  lol1
        so basically if he is telling the true.. then either we now have confirmation that american elite had prophetic powers way back to 2010.. or else they are predicting it.. because they are the authors of it. and is not a prediction at all ,but a plan instead.  

    Now .. this does not means there is no real pandemic event in the world... since russia and china and europe
    do have one.. it only means that US is significantly intentionally inflating their numbers ,exxagerating their crisis.
    by best guess ,why will they be doing this.. ?? as a cover up .... as a smoke screen and a distraction for something else ...

    pandemics events false flags.. for what they can be used?
    1) to declare war on other nations..
    2) to hide their participation on any attack on other nations...
    3) to destroy enemy countries their  economies
    4) Or a pandemic event ,could be used as an economic weapon  to reset US debt..
      if manage to collapse totally the economy of other nations and they recover from it fast.  Shocked

    so maybe is all of those and more.. the reasons why inflating their numbers..
    if they can erase their 23 trillion debt somehow , by paralizing the world economy completely..
    then from their point of view it will be worth of it.. but for such plans to work ,all other nations
    have to be very hard with a genuine pandemic event.. so that it takes them years to recover...
    ,while US recovers very fast.. for staging/artificially inflating a fake crisis..  So many of those
    people claimed to die by covid-19.. in US could be like i reported earlier.. deaths of other natural
    causes.. and they blame it on covid 19 for political reasons ,and for a major fraud.

    by the record.. the next youtube media site.. is very anti chinese ,anti iran and pro trump...
    so is kind surprising to see them ,being more impartial in this reporting.. the doctor being interviewed
    leave the door open ,for the virus being planted by US on china as an attack.. or that it was a collaboration
    between both nations.. but this last one is highly impossible . china will not attack its own nation to damage
    its economy and russia and europe too.. no way.  europe major powers are  now siding in support of china ,
    against US accusations.



    but in my opinion this was an attack..
    And not only attack on china.. but on russia too and europe , and also the attack done in a way ,
    that china was framed by doing legitimate investigation ,future virus..


    and finally american presstitute media , feeding the narrative 24 hours a day ..
    that the virus came from wuhan lab .. lol1   this is a game of disinformation ,brainwashing
    through repetition..  MR president.. what's the status of the investigation ,that the virus came from
    china wuhan lab?   lol1    this is obviously feeding american public opinion with a false claim ,based on
    zero evidence.. in youtube unfortunately most dumb americans ,majority are falling for the information war.



     So the trial is done by the media..without a single fucking shred of evidence.. but the opposite.
    british scientist are saying their studies show the virus did no came from wuhan ,france government
    is also backing china.. so if US dares to start a major boycott on china.. is going to bommeran on them
    big time ,because a big part of the world is siding with chinan.. including europe.. so any attempt of american
    media and their over lords masters ,to isolate china ,will end in a blow back to US , that the ones that will be
    isolated will be US and not china.  italy and france backup china.. remains to see which side Asian major economies will move. if will reject US elite anti chinese crusade or if it will support it. even fake independent media like infowars are feeding the story ,that china in collusion with the democrats and globalist created the virus.  Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:41 pm



    https://fpif.org/whos-responsible-for-americas-coronavirus-fiasco/

    https://regnum.ru/news/society/2923050.html

    https://regnum.ru/news/society/2923095.html

    http://www.ng.ru/news/676796.html?print=Y

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7h83SnDS-E

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgD7vRlSaZY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MxxicJdA2E&t=131s

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/fake-news-on-trump-china-belies-white-house-caution/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=362a562dc1-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_16_10_40_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-362a562dc1-31607385&mc_cid=362a562dc1&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/how-china-hid-tens-of-thousands-of-virus-deaths/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=362a562dc1-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_16_10_40_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-362a562dc1-31607385&mc_cid=362a562dc1&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://regnum.ru/news/society/2923057.html

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/japan-has-had-to-change-its-covid-19-strategy/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=362a562dc1-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_16_10_40_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-362a562dc1-31607385&mc_cid=362a562dc1&mc_eid=5455568640

    https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/covid-19-exposes-singapores-vulnerabilities/?utm_source=The+Daily+Report&utm_campaign=362a562dc1-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_04_16_10_40_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f8bca137f-362a562dc1-31607385&mc_cid=362a562dc1&mc_eid=5455568640


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    Next News Network:
    What i think you are talking about is , the moratorion that was placed and then 3.7 million dollars from the
    National Institute of Health was transfer to China ,so that they can continue this research ...basically outsource
    this reseach  to china (corona viruses research collaboration with china under obama admin) .

    Dr. Rashid A. Buttar:
    Yes ,this is exactly right , So it goes back to 2014 , The US government decided based on certain biologist
    at that time ,that there is no justification for this kind of research ,the potential to cause harm ,cause a pandemic, they told there is no justification for us to do this type of research (at home) ,so the government passed a moratorium in 2014 , Dr. Anthony Fauci ,approved budget for this type of research ..
    (Dr Fauci) broke the law ..went against the moratoriums ,took taxpayer money (3.7 millions) and funded research (in china) that now led to this covid-19 pandemic crisis..
    In 2017 (Dr. Anthony Fauci) he was documented in George town University saying that this administration (Trump admin) will be facing a pandemic event. ..how did he know ?,that in 2017-2020... you can't predict the markets from 3 days from today what's going to happen ,then how did he know ,that president trump was going to face a pandemic? ... now they create this diversion of China .....  




    interestingly.. .DR RAshid was inches away of accusing directly his government of a major false flag event against china. and told  the china blaming is only a diversion.. those confessions of a lonely chinese
    doctor of a "cover up" of something ,by their government , "mysterious anonymous sources" telling FOX news
    an accident in wuhan lab was the reason of the pandemic.. all this things according to DR Rashid are a diversion
    and that it doest matter where the virus began , if in US or in China.. or somewhere else. and why it doesn't
    matter where the virus began? he clearly stated it in semi direct ways.. because US knew what was going to happen ,before it happened and they allowed it to happen, so means total complicity with american government with the pandemic event.. that they wanted it to happen.. so this china accusation are diversion from something
    they planned to happen.. and reason why they funded wuhan lab with millions to research corona virus and now
    they trying to blame China ,for it.. So if china is guilty ,then so it is US ,but this was all masterminded by US,
    and china already accused US soldiers to pass the virus to wuhan.. so enough evidence exist ..
    that connects Trump's right hand DR Anthony fauci ,director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases with the pandemic event that attacked china and then the world..  So unfortunately for trump supporters ,this put trump in a very serious either incompetence of not knowing what his right hand was doing,
    also put in question american intelligence ,that did not warned trump of fauci saying in george town university
    that a world pandemic will start during trump administration.

    If Doctor Rashid ,claims can be verified to be correct.. then this is the smoking gun  of a major fraud
    happening in US with their pandemic event ,not only by significantly lying the world about the crisis american face.. inflating their numbers by a huge margin.. but also shows the right hand of trump knew ,that a pandemic will happen during trump admin ,and also shows they had a clear intent , By american government from 2015 ,to setup china ,into a false flag.. by moving the research of corona viruses to china , this is very convenient to them.. because if an accident happens "for mysterious reasons" they can claim ,they are not studying in their labs that kind of viruses anymore.. but only china is doing it..  fortunately for  china.. they invited scientist world wide , from france ,US,canada ,and britain ,to work in their facilities.. in clear signal of transparency.. and so
    their research was not hidden.. and very open for scientific community , including receiving praise
    from american scientist for the professionalism and the quality of the labs.. denying any accident happened
    there.


    So right there is that interview.. if the information provided by DR Rashid can be confirmed to be correct. then this
    could be used in an international criminal court.. because it shows clearly an US intent to setup China into a false flag
    operation.. send dangerous viruses to wuhan lab , and later ,setup an accident in that lab with the help of american
    doctors ,but this havent happened yet.. the silence of american doctors ,who participated in wuhan lab research is
    very telling.. as a matter of fact.. there is no silence.. one doctor spoke.. and told she worked in the lab just weeks before
    the incident and that the chinese facilities were top quality and she defended china proffessionalism and told there was no
    accident there. Smile

    Dr. Rashid buttar told in the interview , that the blaming on china ("wuhan lab Accident" by US gov and media) is a diversion ,
    to distract world attention ,from them as the authors of the virus and the authors of this pandemic attack... is not hard to see from
    a mile.. US government tried to setup China into a biological accident from wuhan lab.. but looks their plans did
    not worked as they expected.. the false flag failed.. because no single american doctor who participated in the research in
    wuhan lab with chinese. have accussed china of any wrong doing in that lab..  also is failing because [W.H.O.]
    the world health organization.. is neither accusing china of any wrong doing... on top of that most of europe is not cooperating either
    so it seems ,the lack of cooperation from american scientist who worked in the facility wuhan lab ,is the reason why they still
    delaying any official accussation on china , as to blame for the pandemic the world face.. They likely trying to bribe doctors..
    a chinese doctor or an american one ,to accuse Chinese government of covering an accident..  the so called doctor who died
    "who spoke fordwar" ,had to be one of their setup to accuse china of wrong doing.. Technology today can very easily emulate the
    voice of anyone in a recorded video ,including emulate the mouth movements ...





    https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/12/15957844/ai-fake-video-audio-speech-obama



    So people have to be very careful from any video on social media videos ,about chinese or any nationality accusing their government of any wrong doing/cover up without verifying it if he/she really told that,what they told..so convenient the chinese doctor who died,had face covered.  Smile although he never said ,of any accident on any lab..still will have been very easily staged with technology ,so he say the virus came from chinese president fart.. lol1   the stakes are incredibly high in this pandemic event.. and if proven beyond doubt that the virus in wuhan was masterminded by CIA and by US industry of defense to attack china economy and adversaries in the world but also european nations who collaborated with china and russia, that this was a terrorist
    attack by US on adversaries ,sacrificing a little bit of collateral damage on allies too , then negative consequences will be apocaliptic to the future of the american empire , the lawsuits and reparation of damages the world will demand on US to pay..  if things go so bad in their narrative ,they will reverse their claims on china did it
    and switch to a chinese terrorist ,who infiltrated their military did it.. they also have all thing setup to reverse
    to an "Accident" by their military , because fort detrick in maryland was closed for exactly the same reason.. they accusing now wuhan lab.. of an accident with a virus.. So they can say.. that they did not knew some of their soldiers were infested with the virus..   Rolling Eyes   but the world is not going to eat that.. they will deny the best
    they can ,that they had anything to do with the pandemic the world face.. even if they predicted it.. that trump
    administration will face it.


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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:06 am

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nypd-confiscates-drone-belonging-freelance-photojournalist-documenting-nycs-mass-burials

    Silly real journalist thought America was a free country. I guess he should have learned his lesson.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:15 am



    https://gothamist.com/news/nypd-seizes-drone-photojournalist-documenting-mass-burials-hart-island

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/19/how-the-covid-19-crisis-may-impact-cannabis-legalization.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/17/nearly-90percent-of-the-us-navy-hospital-ship-in-new-york-is-empty-amid-coronavirus-fight.html

    https://www.fayobserver.com/news/20200417/fort-bragg-reports-first-covid-19-deaths

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-northkorea/north-korean-lecturers-say-there-are-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-in-the-country-rfa-idUKKBN2200H8
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:20 am

    People have to be careful with the propaganda trolls on internet misleading population..  
    with their anti chinese conspiracies.. and diversionary conspiracies. listen to this american doctor ..
    who is coming fordwar explaining what the real agenda.. (part of it) of this inside job pandemic event ,done by american elites..




    -He says US elite are hoping to keep the lockdown for years. and people will not be allowed
    to leave homes unless they vaccinated .. with things ,that will control the lives of people..forever.
    ie.. that people will require vaccination constantly and microchiped like laboratory rat to spy on them
    from space..

    the entire thing is for population control ,but it was to break china and russia their most hardest objective..
    and break european nations not cooperating with the american empire.. every one else is a puppet ,that
    they can easily control.

    however i disagree with his explanation for the permanent social distancing.. as a forever thing..
    that they are pushing to be the norm for many years.. and that is because covid-19 in reality
    was a biological war that american elite ,started on china ,russia and nations cooperating with them..
    so world war 3 first shots have been fired.. and so their interest that people stay at home as much as
    possible ,even years.. is because they are afraid of china and russia and europe retaliation on US with
    a new virus attack ... so this is what i was saying ,the world will never be the same again.. there is a clear
    lack of trust between US and most of the world.. and so they are afraid ,they could be attacked back in
    response with an even more deadlier virus.. the microship everyone ,could be used to track everyone
    where they go , how long they stay there and who they talk... this is because they understand ,that
    after this biological war they started on the world... there will be major response on them.. also this is to avoid
    a major coup on america to change the government in power .. by knowing the movements of mass
    concentration of people ,they can prevent a major uprising and contain it... the real scary part is the forced
    vaccination ,they can inject anything they want on anyone , and use this vaccination as a full control weapon to control society.. kill the black people or those that oppose their system. No



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    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:36 am

    I doubt they'll try to force every1 to be vaccinated. In the US, a patient capable of making decisions has the right to refuse any test or treatment.
    I didn't get a flu shot since 2008, even though Ks of people die every year from it.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:07 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:I doubt they'll try to force every1 to be vaccinated. In the US, a patient capable of making decisions has the right to refuse any test or treatment.
    I didn't get a flu shot since 2008, even though Ks of people die every year from it.


    they can enforce it if they so desire it , like bill gates was saying.. you can't go to work
    and go outside if you are not vaccinated. and everyone vaccinated will be inserted in their head
    a microchip ,that will be connected to satellites and they can track you..  so police can easily know
    who is outside illegally and who is not.. because the microchip will contain all your information ,
    including medical one.. so this is what we have been warned long time ago... that the elites wanted.
    they found a way now with a virus ,to justify forced vaccination on all population.. if you don't vaccinate
    you can't go outside ,can't work ,and can raise your family.. no business will be allowed to hire people
    that are not certified by gov with their vaccines .

    so this  confirm everything i feared.. future wars of US will be biological wars.. and they already fired
    the first shots.. and they preparing for a retaliation . The ultimate proof , that the world
    is now officially split , will be to observe what happens in politics between US and Europe.. in relation
    with US intention to blame china for the virus.. If Trump goes ahead and accuse officially china lab for the
    pandemic.. and europe major powers reject this... then it will be a clear major split between US and europe.
    and nato will be mostly a paper alliance and will not a real one... this is because this pandemic event is the most
    important one for the future of United States as a super power. as much as world war 2 was ,for the end of the british empire and the rise of the american empire.  If Europe distance from US business and gets closer to China and Russia.. then it will be the end of the american system and the start of a new one..

    In my opinion ,the year 2020 ,will be the most important year ,for the future of the world , for the future
    of humanity ,for the future ofthe american empire , in this generation , after this pandemic event. ,it will be define the next 20 years at least ,of how international politics will be done , and is the year and long term
    new mayor alliances could start ,that will shape enormously the future of the planet.  Russia ,china and india for example will need to integrate more if wants their countries to survive of a potential biological war with US.
    and europe will have to pick a side .. if don't want to continue being colonies of US.  the future of nato and american bases in europe is also in question too.. i can't imagine how it will be possible for italy to continue to exist , if they are aware US military was behind the virus.. that they face. so the lack of trust in US military
    ,embassies and intelligence agencies , will be all time high.. from now until the future. German people and italians will want american bases to abandon their territory.. since any believe that the virus came from american bases on their country ,will be enough to trigger millions to go to the streets and protest those bases.
    interesting times indeed.. and my best hopes ,is that trump prevent a major conflict ,a major war ,and manage
    to convince to stop this madness and restore relations with the world but specially with china , this could happen
    because most US business including apple continue in china. this pandemic for me was a false flag that failed
    to happen the way they wanted and now they trying to save it somehow , while leaving the door open for a retreat .




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    Post  Tsavo Lion Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:16 am

    That microchipping story isn't new- I remember hearing about it since 1995. How will it communicate with sats from inside 1's bloodstream? Besides, most people carry cellphones & make purchases with bank cards, with security cameras all over the world. The bad guys can hide in plain sight- what's the point of tracking every1 if they don't know who they r? The NSA collected Bs of data from communication intercepts & still can't analyse & use it in real time.



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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:18 am

    Full interview with DR. RASHID


    some of its most important claims..
    -covid-19 is a false flag operation in america..
    -doesn't matter where it started ,the US government is behind the virus pandemic event
     the accusations against china is a distraction.
    - there are real people dying , from covid-19 but the numbers are significantly inflated.
    -the real goal of US government is two make mandatory vaccinations on all american people
     and microchip everyone...people not vaccinated will not be allowed to go out.. bill gates already is promoting
     this openly..
    - the real pandemic massacre will not happen because of covid-19 ,that numbers are low ..
      the real massacre of millions will happen from the vaccines they will be enforcing on people to take..
      and if anything happens ,it will be blamed on covid-19/
    - Dr fauci put in jail a friend of DR Rashid for 5 years for her refusing to make virus more lethal..
    - he also admits to be not an expert on technology , so he throw an hypothesis that the chemtrails
      and the 5G could damage the defenses on the human body.. to fight back viruses.
    -he also claims vaccines are causing major damage in people even previous to covid-19 and the major
    - DR fauci claimed at george town university in 2017 that  trump administration will face a surprise pandemic event.. so he knew this event was going to happen.. and he moved the research to corona viruses to
    chinese wuhan lab..
    -Dr. Rashid throw a real good argument ,that Fauci was rejecting trump suggestions of using a medicine
     that already exist ,that is old and that is very cheap , to fight malaria and cures covid-19 most the times.
     because no studies were done to proof they work.. but at same time Dr fauci is promotting unproven
     vaccines ,that have not been tested to be used to fight corona virus-19..  
    -He also claims all doctors in america are receiving letters ,demanding that everyone with respiratory issues
    that dies.. be declared as a covid-19 death.. without any real investigation.. this is total fraud.. totally
    inflating the numbers of US , and is a confirmation of the stadistic fraud in america ,of their version of the "pandemic".



    What is important to remember is that even though DR Rashid is not an expert in all topics , he explain
    things the way he understand it ,and while he knows a lot of medicine in america ,he don;t know much of
    technology or intenational politics.. he told something that is very important.. the mastermind of the pandemic is directly connected to US elites.. including DR fauci. bill gates and Controls of diseases center.. he also thinks
    however that WHO is also part of the problem.. maybe it is or maybe they just victim ,as any other who
    was pushed into a direction but they later reverse their actions ,as is the case with dr rashid friend ,that ended doing weapons with viruses ,and ended doing that ,when she saw the danger..he also correctly saw that all the
    accusation against china are a distraction. that no matter where the virus began.. that US elite are the master minds of this.. US elites knew what was going to happen, and allowed it to happen and funded even money millions to move the research of corona viruses from US labs to china labs. so they wanted a pandemic
    event to happen.. is a simple as that.. and later blame china for it..   Wink
     S

    he is telling the truth . as far he can see it..  however he don't know the full picture.. ...
    is a lot more than world depopulation their goal..the real aim of the pandemic was not just target american people ,to fully control them...the bigger objective was .

    1) To completely destroy China and Russia economies
    2) To punish european nations cooperating with them.. and break their economies ,France,germany,
    that is to weaken significantly the opposition  to US sanctions and attempts to isolate russia and china.
    3) and last ,to have full control of american people through a forced vaccination program.
       if they allowed to force americans into medicines they don't want and food they don't want..
       this create the perfect environment for total tyranny to happen in United States, when they can
       kill any opposition to the government.. through forced medicines and later if they die ,they can say
       it was the person body that rejected the vaccine and killed him... ie.. blame in on the person for dying.
       after a forced medication.

    he wrongly believe that China 5G technology is part of the agenda.. but this is a technology that US have
    been blocking form the world as much as possible... the way china implements 5G have to be safe enough
    for Russia agree to allow it in their country.. also there is no evidence that 5G is in any way helping the
    virus to spread more faster.. iran doesn't have 5G and the virus spread there like wildfire.. still however
    the interview is good.. yes he is right.. is a false flag.. but the fake virus is only in america.. the enemies
    of US like Russia, china and iran are facing a very deadly version of the virus.. that is more lethal.. and probably
    italy ,france and germany and spain are facing this lethal version too.. another thing not told is that
    the kits to detect corona virus ,produced by US is wrongly reporting people ,with false positives , so many
    of their inflating numbers comes from bad equipment ,that likely intentional missreport.. normal respiratory illness as covid-19.

    So control of the world ,was the real goal of this false flag pandemic event on US against its adversaries
    and disloyal allies..by destroying enemies economies.. and to hide their hands from the crime.. they setup
    china into the false flag.. passed their research from US to wuhan ,and that was going to make it easier
    to frame china into the virus event.. but the problem US face . is that none of the americans ,british ,canadians and french scientist who worked at the facility have not accused of china of any wrong doing.. and that the other major failure of the false flag ,is that the world health organization.. also refused to accused of china of any wrong doing.. and this is why US is trying to discredit W.H.O organization.. for not condemning china for the world pandemic event..
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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:59 am

    Younger people don't understand what disease can do... many of their parents and grandparents lived through times when there was nothing you could do... Polio, Measles, flu, etc etc are just words. Technology and science creates treatments and cures and vaccines to prevent diseases and dumb fucks quote ass holes saying shit like vaccines cause autism or they give you the disease in the first place.

    Now I have no problem with these sorts of censored choosing not to vaccinate themselves... that effectively is a victimless crime, but when they spout shit on the internet and people who don't know any better read it and think they might have a point and refuse to vaccinate themselves or their children then I get a bit pissed off because those kids shouldn't be experimented upon by their parents because they are too fucking stupid or too paranoid to look up the real facts for themselves and realise all the negative potential side effects are made up, and in many cases even if they were half true are not even as bad as the disease they are trying to eliminate.

    Who gives a fuck where it started... even if you could prove it was man made what the fuck difference does that make... do you think you can take the American or Chinese or British government to court and make them say sorry to everyone?

    For fucks sake just get over yourselves...
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 21, 2020 1:16 pm

    GarryB wrote:Younger people don't understand what disease can do... many of their parents and grandparents lived through times when there was nothing you could do... Polio, Measles, flu, etc etc are just words. Technology and science creates treatments and cures and vaccines to prevent diseases and dumb fucks quote ass holes saying shit like vaccines cause autism or they give you the disease in the first place.

    Now I have no problem with these sorts of censored  choosing not to vaccinate themselves... that effectively is a victimless crime, but when they spout shit on the internet and people who don't know any better read it and think they might have a point and refuse to vaccinate themselves or their children then I get a bit pissed off because those kids shouldn't be experimented upon by their parents because they are too fucking stupid or too paranoid to look up the real facts for themselves and realise all the negative potential side effects are made up, and in many cases even if they were half true are not even as bad as the disease they are trying to eliminate.

    Who gives a fuck where it started... even if you could prove it was man made what the fuck difference does that make... do you think you can take the American or Chinese or British government to court and make them say sorry to everyone?

    For fucks sake just get over yourselves...
    Unusual for you to get so worked up about something Garry and make such sweeping and insulting comments.

    I'm 74 and my 3 kids are around 50. They and I grew up during the years when vaccines, together with public health improvements, especially clean water, made huge impacts on the health of the World.

    However, certainly in the West, the methods of giving vaccines has changed dramatically since then. The vaccines themselves have changed, being stronger, more synthetic, with many now as combos at the same time and often with more courses. Perhaps most significantly they are given much earlier in life.

    My grand daughter is now 6 and Swiss. Her parents and me were of one mind, minimum vaccine load and, as her doctor agreed, she has only had the basics at the age her body could easily absorb them.

    Before we came to that decision we did investigate all the scientific information, on both sides, regarding age of delivery and potential side affects. This is not black and white settled science. We did not want to take any risk we didn't need to. You may not be aware, I wasn't, that aluminum, a known neuro poison, has only been tested in vaccines for efficiency, not safety. You might like to check out the links below.

    The selling of vaccines is one of the most profitable markets there is and to assume that there are no pressures on the medical or political professions to hide any, even very minor, problems is I suggest being naive. In the US at least the vaccine manufacturers are protected by law from being sued, the Government takes the risk. Now that's a deal!

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/02/joseph-mercola/how-aluminum-damages-your-brain/

    https://www.integrativepediatricsonline.com/uploads/1/0/9/2/109222957/the_vaccine-friendly_plan.pdf
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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:06 pm

    Unusual for you to get so worked up about something Garry and make such sweeping and insulting comments.

    I don't care if some adult decides they don't want to be vaccinated because of the millions of people injected with neurotoxin Aluminium one in x might have a reaction that makes their lives worse than they already are, it is when that adult then chooses to inflict on their kids and grandkids their own stupidity and start telling friends and family not to vaccinate that I find I should say something... just so they realise what they are doing might not be heroic and sensible... everyone wants to keep their families and friends safe right?

    But no, you are right.... lets assume all medical people are out to screw us and instead trust what we can find on the internet.

    Most people couldn't interpret the results of a scientific test let alone evaluate one test from another....

    Also... vaccines are generally free in New Zealand and the only pressure to get them is to prevent disease.

    Lots of people however think it is their duty to prevent people getting their kids vaccinated because they read on the internet they have poisons in them, like Aluminium

    Perhaps instead of investigating what jab is safe for the little ones it would make more sense to ensure vaccines are necessary and tested... and I have heard the Aluminium is a neurotoxin stuff before... you do know it is in a lot of things including deodorant and cooking foil... and lots of different drink containers including both disposable and reusable ones... when was the last time you saw cause of death aluminium poisoning?

    Aluminum is not a heavy metal and the human body can remove Al via urine and faeces... unlike depleted Uranium or lead...

    I mean I understand that Asbestos was used for insulation and lead used to pipe water in to homes, but that leads to Asbestosis and lead poisoning and pretty soon you work out the problem... don't you think after 100 years if aluminium was so bad that we would be noticing?

    And if it is so bad and we are ignoring it... then perhaps we should top ourselves now because there is no hope for the species...

    Perhaps instead of trying to get people to not vaccinate that instead we should all be demanding politicians from all parties support more sensible health care practises and policies where the rich get the good healthcare and good information and the poor get nothing or just the basics because poor people don't deserve it.

    Health care going down the road of market economy and market forces will leave the path of finding cures because cures are less profitable than treatments... in fact vaccinations are counter productive too... let them get all the diseases they can pick up on overseas trips so we can make money treating them and anyone else they infect...

    And I lost several family members to Polio at a time when it was preventable, but everyone has a right to their own opinion... even if it kills them... but do they have a right to kill friends and family? Not my call.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:06 pm

    GarryB wrote:Younger people don't understand what disease can do... many of their parents and grandparents lived through times when there was nothing you could do... Polio, Measles, flu, etc etc are just words. Technology and science creates treatments and cures and vaccines to prevent diseases and dumb fucks quote ass holes saying shit like vaccines cause autism or they give you the disease in the first place.

    Now I have no problem with these sorts of censored  choosing not to vaccinate themselves... that effectively is a victimless crime, but when they spout shit on the internet and people who don't know any better read it and think they might have a point and refuse to vaccinate themselves or their children then I get a bit pissed off because those kids shouldn't be experimented upon by their parents because they are too fucking stupid or too paranoid to look up the real facts for themselves and realise all the negative potential side effects are made up, and in many cases even if they were half true are not even as bad as the disease they are trying to eliminate.

    Who gives a fuck where it started... even if you could prove it was man made what the fuck difference does that make... do you think you can take the American or Chinese or British government to court and make them say sorry to everyone?

    For fucks sake just get over yourselves...


    For americans ,it doesn't matter where it started.. because the US elites ,with nostradamus like  powers to predict
    the future ,like bill gates ,like fauci ,like rockefellers ,and others ,appears pretty much to be the mastermind of it.. or at least the financial part to bribe many to cooperate with this attack..

    But for china is important that the truth is revealed of where the virus really started.. because if american media
    gets its propaganda to win.. later US can promote a total hate of china and chinese people and a world wide
    boycott. jews media in US are promoting the virus game from wuhan lab from accident and that china is to blame for the world pandemic..  if Western media wins with this propaganda , they could get an international boycott of world population on chinese products.. effectively allowing them to break china economy .which is what they wanted to do from the start.. with sanctions and their trade war.. and likely with with this biowarfare
    attack too..

    In more news..
    China reports ,not all covid-19 are the same... some strands are more deadlier than other..
    the deadlier stands /mutations of covid-19 are showing up in europe.. the less deadly ones ..?
    surprise surprise in united states. western coast Laughing   but he also say that the eastern coast is similar to the european one..  this information can be accurate - IF - the doctors/scientist in US gave them genuine samples
    of people infested.. and not samples taken from a suitcase ..taken from a lab.

    Covid-19 mutations underestimated, Chinese scientists warn, as they discover new DEADLIER virus strains

    https://www.rt.com/news/486425-covid-19-mutations-deadlier-strains/

    also china is saying that the many variations and mutations of the virus covid-19, will delay a lot the creation
    of medicine /vaccine that can fit all needs..  so many countres will need to have their own vaccine..
    for their particular needs.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:34 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    China reports ,not all covid-19 are the same... some strands are more deadlier than other..
    the deadlier stands /mutations of covid-19 are showing up in europe.. the less deadly ones ..?
    surprise surprise in united states. western coast Laughing   but he also say that the eastern coast is similar to the european one..  this information can be accurate - IF - the doctors/scientist in US gave them genuine samples
    of people infested.. and not samples taken from a suitcase ..taken from a lab.
    There seems to be two major strains, L and S. Although not intended, L for Lethal and S for Small seems to fit their relative impacts.

    Both appear to be present all over the place and a reason for the tests (apart from their inaccuracy) showing the large numbers tested with Covid-19 but showing no signs could be that they have the S strain. Conversely the high death ratio patients may have the L strain. It is also possible that catching the S first may protect from the L.

    Don't take this as read as there seem to be as many theories as there are Professors and IC consultants. Neither politicians nor the medical profession seem to be able to cope with something that came out of left field and exploded in their faces.
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    Post  kvs Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:18 pm

    The problem is that vaccines do not just use Aluminum as the adjuvant. They also have ethylmercury as a preservative. It is this latter
    ingredient that smacks of brazen disregard for health. Both methyl and ethyl mercury are neurotoxins. In fact, they are lethal even
    if a few drops get on your skin:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Wetterhahn

    Dimethyl or mono methyl does not make much difference, the issue is that both are easily absorbed by the organism since they are
    methylated. Ethylation enhances absorption just as effectively.

    Exposure to elemental mercury is not a big deal since it is not going to diffuse through your skin.

    But the autism vaccine link is something that requires proof and none has been forthcoming. I have not even seen a plausible mechanism
    (e.g. sufficient neurological damage or even the auto-immune pathway) to explain it. Mercury toxicity does not lead to selective brain
    damage. So it is something about those individuals that results in the pathology. Then the question is, would vaccines be the only
    trigger or even if they are a trigger.

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    Post  franco Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:13 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Vann7 wrote:
    China reports ,not all covid-19 are the same... some strands are more deadlier than other..
    the deadlier stands /mutations of covid-19 are showing up in europe.. the less deadly ones ..?
    surprise surprise in united states. western coast Laughing   but he also say that the eastern coast is similar to the european one..  this information can be accurate - IF - the doctors/scientist in US gave them genuine samples
    of people infested.. and not samples taken from a suitcase ..taken from a lab.
    There seems to be two major strains, L and S. Although not intended, L for Lethal and S for Small seems to fit their relative impacts.

    Both appear to be present all over the place and a reason for the tests (apart from their inaccuracy) showing the large numbers tested with Covid-19 but showing no signs could be that they have the S strain. Conversely the high death ratio patients may have the L strain. It is also possible that catching the S first may protect from the L.

    Don't take this as read as there seem to be as many theories as there are Professors and IC consultants. Neither politicians nor the medical profession seem to be able to cope with something that came out of left field and exploded in their faces.

    Read somewhere the other day, where a group of British chemists working on a vaccine had identified a third strain.

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