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    Post  elconquistador Wed 27 Jan 2021, 22:49

    Tsavo Lion wrote:More than 100 million people have been infected with coronavirus worldwide, and more than 2 million have died. Experts say those reported figures are probably much higher in reality. The UK just crossed the threshold of 100,000 deaths and leads the world in the number of deaths proportionate to population. In the US, January has already been the deadliest coronavirus month yet, with more than 79,000 reported deaths. Several major US school districts have shelved plans to return to in-person classes amid teacher pushback and rising case numbers. However, virtual learning has been a challenge for families, teachers and students, and one of the largest districts in the US is trying to speed up a return to in-person learning after a rise in student suicides. CNN

    The new mutated virus will be more contagious but also more lethal to some people.

    Show me excess deaths anywhere.

    Show me proof of a killervirus anywhere. Raw statistics please. 'Experts say..' doesn't count.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed 27 Jan 2021, 23:07

    If u don't like/accept the statistics, wait a few months & they'll change.
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    Post  Vann7 Thu 28 Jan 2021, 02:41

    Something kind of strange is happening lately , that i do notice and no idea what is going on.
    Seems like there is a pattern going .

    Did anyone notice what appears to be the collapse of anglo western pharma industry ?

    Is there is a chance the events mentioned below are all connected ?

    (many weeks ago)
    Aztrazeneca announcing cooperation with gamaleya institute ,to improve the safety of their
    vaccine ,combining it with the sputnik vaccine ?

    (a week ago)
    1) Germany Merkel  announcing the authorization for the entry of Russia sputnik vaccine , while simultaneously ,the german libertard opposition starting a criminal probe on merkel for ordering so few pfizer vaccines.

    2)Mexico announcing a major bomb deal with russia for the purchase of 25 million vaccines ,while significantly delaying and reducing of buying from pfizer and moderna . Shocked

    The government of mexico released slides of how their vaccine purchase will be ,
    and from memory ,and from eye guessing.. it looks russia will get most of the vaccines ,
    in second place aztrazeneca , looks like sputnik and astrazeneca will get about 75% of mexico orders and the other 25% distributed in other(s) vaccines . even india pharma industry is scoring orders in brasil .

    3) almost all latin america lining up to buy the sputnik vaccine and chinese vaccines.

    4)Moderna vaccination was stopped in california in hundreds of hospitals for major investigation
    going on with adverse effects of the vaccine in many people.

    (in this week)

    5) Significant major delays of months for pfizer in production of their vaccines ,not only in US
    but world wide ,just saw a  tv news media from new york was announcing that people
    be ready for a delay of months to get their first vaccines shots.

    6) At the same time the state of new york announcing partial reopening of the small business economy reversing their previous policies ,even in times they claim covid19 numbers increasing.

    7) President joe biden announcing the return of US to Europe Union orbit ,in their mutual policy agreements like..

       - the iranian nuclear deal that trump cancelled.
       - the climate change agreements.
       - the return of the nuclear proliferation deal with russia.
       - the banning of any blaming china for the virus  
           (aligning with Europe ,Russia and majority of world position)

    Cool Mercs announcing gave up producing a vaccine for covid19  Shocked  
    https://www.merck.com/news/merck-discontinues-development-of-sars-cov-2-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-continues-development-of-two-investigational-therapeutic-candidates/

    9) The Rusophobic european union parliament in brusels , full of rusophobic libertards ,demanding Astrazeneca to give them the promised 75 million vaccines.


    So if this is all a big coincidence , that anglo western vaccines , was producing like there is no
    tomorrow vaccines and suddenly everyone is delaying of cancelling their vaccines?

    For me is hard to believe that the biggest pharma companies in the world ,will be losing territory
    in production versus russia minuscule capabilities of vaccines production. and losing a lot of sales to china in their own american region.. this  delays or cancelations in western vaccines are extremely rare.  this is almost unbelievable to think is happening ,that they can even vaccinate their own citizens in new york and telling them wait months for your first shots.  

    here is what i think could be happening.  When you pass through their smoke screen ,being told
    in media is likely that...

    - Europe managed to pressure Biden administration to do a major 180 degree change in many  foreign policy issues ,to a less confrontational one with Russia and china..
    .
    -Pfizer and moderna are intentionally delaying and freezing their vaccination program and going back
    to the drawing board , to make them safer.  They perhaps understand that they risking too much that just this covid vaccine ,but the entire reputation of their companies .(specially after norway announced 23 people died in 23 days) and later the miami doctor falling death 2 hours after shot
    and then the women with brain damage shaking.

    This does not contradict any of my belief earlier ,that covid19 pandemic is a western depopulation project ,combined with economic war ,that is not working as well as they intended ,at least not with china. Because in order to control the population by controlling their health , they need first to convince population to vaccinate first... it will not work

    if people start dying or getting seriously sick for life in the hundreds.. it will backlash on them and most people will avoid the vaccines.  Already the black community in US  are the biggest anti vaxxer
    of all ,and refusing to take any vaccine. Wondering if this have anything to do with the hard lessons learned by afroblack community with how the US government and police behave with them . I can't breath...  Laughing


    If people have any doubts ,that this covid19 pandemic is not natural ,but a manufactured man made crisis ,a man made operation ,then think very carefully what today US senator Rand Paul
    predicted.


    You Will Never Get Out From Under the Mask”: Sen. Rand Paul Predicts Masks Here To Stay

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/you-will-never-get-out-from-under-the-mask-sen-rand-paul-predicts-masks-here-to-stay/

    Rand Paul who have access to inside information from US policy makers , when he says that
    is because he knows something we don't and very few understand.

    Never in the history of humanity a pandemic lasted 100 years or more ,even less with today technology and scientific advances ,and The only way a pandemic could last a life time or more
    to force population always with face mask , is if this pandemic is not in reality a natural event..
    but a highly political and military engineered crisis , for dictatorship and global hegemony purposes.
    An operation ,that it appears that EU is pressuring US and its anglo sphere colonies to stop. and how
    can that be done? by refusing to blame china for the virus  ,that the goal was for isolation of cchina from the world , also by welcoming Russia and chinese vaccines in europe. and by increasing their business and good relations with both of them , this effectively bypass any kind of isolation of their enemies from world economy that anglo zionist powers hoped. even iran will now make a lot of money with the return of their iranian nuclear deal.

    only way Rand Paul could said face mask are forever ,is that he is aware ,that we face today is a
    biological war ,and not a pandemic ,and US fired the first shots ,but Russia ,china and europe could
    fight back with same of their own medicine.

    italy and peru already openly have accused bill gates as a war criminal and accusing them for today pandemic.  Shocked  China accused US military of doing it. Retired Russian intel officer also told the same , that the world is facing an anglozionist  biomilitary operation ,that the world depopulation agenda is real.


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    Post  elconquistador Thu 28 Jan 2021, 03:23

    Tsavo Lion wrote:If u don't like/accept the statistics, wait a few months & they'll change.

    What statistics don't I accept and/or like?
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu 28 Jan 2021, 04:12

    elconquistador wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:If u don't like/accept the statistics, wait a few months & they'll change.

    What statistics don't I accept and/or like?

    well he isn't wrong so far there have been 100m infected, 55m have gotten better and 2m have died in total worldwide.

    covid has always had about a 2-3 percent death rate which isn't bad but you know it seems bad when millions upon millions get infected.

    This information comes from the governments of the respective countries themselves.

    So if you want to say those are lies then you literally calling every country on earth a liar.
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    Post  elconquistador Thu 28 Jan 2021, 05:11

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    elconquistador wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:If u don't like/accept the statistics, wait a few months & they'll change.

    What statistics don't I accept and/or like?

    well he isn't wrong so far there have been 100m infected, 55m have gotten better and 2m have died in total worldwide.

    covid has always had about a 2-3 percent death rate which isn't bad but you know it seems bad when millions upon millions get infected.

    This information comes from the governments of the respective countries themselves.

    So if you want to say those are lies then you literally calling every country on earth a liar.

    Good Lord is this still the level of discourse one year into a fake pandemic?

    I genuinely find it hard to believe that a guy that speaks with so much (faux) authority can't even open Yandex/Google and type in 'IFR Covid19 CDC/WHO/academic study'

    The info on the low IFR (0.13- ~0.3) has been out since April when the Universities of Heidelberg (Germany) and Santa Ana (USA) did large scale surveys and found antibodies in 30-40 percent of the tested population. These bombshell breakthroughs strangely enough were only reported in alternative media and the fear kept being mongered elsewhere .

    Geez, I wonder why.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5269331002

    www.who.int › online_firstPDF
    Webresultaten
    Infection fatality rate of COVID-19 inferred from seroprevalence data

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01095-0

    And yes I am calling every government on this planet liars. About basically everything. By default.

    Also provide sources for these ridiculous claims that 'governments everywhere' are claiming an IFR of 2-3 percent (which is VERY BAD and which in reality would mean piles of body on every corner of the street and societies that turn completely dysfunctional).

    What really happened.

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    Post  kvs Thu 28 Jan 2021, 06:32

    Not to contradict the numbers above, but Covid-19 is distinctive in that it produces more acute cases than the flu and loads
    up ERs. The lockdowns are about covering up the failure of the health care systems in the west. Thanks to decades of
    bed reductions and nursing staff cuts, hospitals are husks of the what they were 50 years ago. They are simply not able
    to deal with pandemics. Of course during this time the public cost for running health care system has skyrocketed and
    this money has gone into Big Pharma pockets. The 10% annual health care inflation is not about improving medicine
    and treatment, it is about rackets such as repackaging of old drugs under new labels to get patent protection extended
    and to gouge with new prices.

    Doctors are the Big Pharma gang local dealers. Big Pharma funds their vacations and brainwashes them at lavish conferences
    so that they run back to their practices with the latest drugs. General physicians are no more than low grade medical
    technicians even if they are put on a pedestal higher than scientists. They don't have the critical skills necessary to
    see through the Big Pharma BS and don't even care to resist the full bore bribery.

    And governments such as those in Canada rubber stamp this corruption.

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    Post  elconquistador Thu 28 Jan 2021, 07:03

    I've been thinking long and deep on why non The Great Reset aligned countries have pursued these harsh lockdowns and are still playing the same fiddle

    For those countries aligned with The Great Reset it is clear why.

    In random order

    1. Strengething positions at home. Xi Jinping greatly strengthened his position at home as result of the coronavirus. The Jiang Zemin Clique has been devestated through losing leadership positions in Hubei and Shanghai and the general population lives the swift and hard response that dealt with the issue quickly.

    In times of turmoil the people look at their leaders, at the government for guidance. Most of them have taken advantage of it.

    2. Financial incentives/globalist pressure. I believe it was Lukashenko who said that he had been offered large sums of money by the IMF+World bank to implement lockdown measures.

    Instead he had it published in national media. A couple of weeks later mass protests started in his country. So surprised, totally didn't see that coming.

    3. Saving face. A government never admits its mistakes, instead it doubles down. Can't halfway in the 'fight' throw in the towel and say 'that's it, back to normal, it's not as severe as we had initially thought, these measures are doing more harm than good'

    Just doesn't work like that.

    4. Initial shock. I was living in China at the time of the outbreak and there was serious panic (which I assume was the same elsewhere).

    Assuming here that the Chinese leadership was caught off guard by the outbreak (as they are not part of The Great Reset), their history and societal attitude quickly led to mass panic, fear mongering and a sense of a looming Apocalypse.

    I remember reading/hearing stories about a new SARS virus with a kill rate of 10-30 percent that would be undetectable yet contagious in the first weeks of exposure, of coming food shortages and famines etc.

    If these leaders were similarly in the dark locking down would have seemed like a very reasonable thing to do.

    5. Precedent set by China. China locked down hard as they always do. The WHO at that point was still recommending lockdowns as a way to combat the virus. These precedents and suggestions might have shaped the reality that locking down society would indeed be the best option available
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    Post  Vann7 Thu 28 Jan 2021, 07:09

    They . (the anglozionist west and puppet allies ) have been shutting down the entire economies of
    the low and middle class and small business (only them) ,based on a virus with .005% mortality rate.
    So you have more chance of winning the lottery than dying from covid19.  i have yet to know of anyone in relatives or friends or friends from friends who died from covid19. The only deaths i have
    see are in the media.

    And no russia is not lying , and you can see that easily ,because they behave exactly the way
    a nation will do , when facing an annoying virus but with  very small chance to kill people and this will only become even worse for the virus ,with russia announced medicine that 100% kill the virus . Cool


    There is a channel in youtube ,that a russian citizen have been live streaming videos
    every single day of the pandemic in St Petersburg. and literary almost no one use
    face mask.

    While the west have been promoting total shutdown of small business (only them) ,while big corporations continue working as usual ,  in Russia the lockdowns have been almost none , just some
    very relaxed rules.

    -Streamed @live 12 hours ago  (january ,27, 2021 ,St peterburg Russia)

    i don't see any social distance here , in Russia government sponsored fire works.


    Sweden not even did a single lockdown at all , they keep schools open through the entire 2020.  lol1

    If you take videos of new york small business /parties zones it looks like ghost town.   lol1  

    So what's going on here?  confused
    Do we have different pandemics different viruses in the world? one for Russia ,china and sweeden , while US and UK and Canada ,australia very strict rules but only for the working class and full business as usual for the big corporations?

    like Doctor Dan Erickson ,told on media interview, this have nothing to do with science .
    This is totally something else. is called politics.. corruption in politics. He even told they ,federal gov pressure all hospitals and doctors across all United States are under major pressure to write inn every death as "covid19 death" . Funerary services also told exactly the same thing. pressure to
    label every death as "covid19" , if they doing such a fraud with their numbers of death nation wide
    can't be for anything good , but for corruption of the highest level.

    if there is doubt.. say it was covid19 on death certificate. Laughing

    but if they die hours or days after being vaccinated by pfizer or moderna, blame their victims ,society them for their deaths , it  was your fault , you had to have bad health ,there is nothing wrong with their vaccines .    Rolling Eyes

    They're are playing as fools americans , there is no reason for this working class ,small business
    shot downs for a year and counting, unless there is another agenda going on here ,to send to bankruptcy the middle and low class and make them 100% dependent from government to exist.
    same with their health ,to control vast majority of society , also by controlling their health with their
    vaccines? very likely.

    Scaring all population with a virus that kills 1 from 2,000 people ,and most who die are older people with obesity ,that already had life threatening conditions ,so that all society stop living ? that doesn't make sense. just like doctor dan erickson who had a clinic ,that is front line workers , who had to deal with covid patients all time ,he told previous pandemic times ,  in previous years , there was similar numbers of death rate to seasonal flu and there was no shutdowns of any economy ,no mandatory vaccines ,no crisis , Like he told what his country is doing ,had nothing to do with science .he actually told in 2019 hospitals were always full , during seasonal flu times , and in 2020 during covid19 they were empty. pirat

    There are no 2 or 3 pandemics.. is just 1 virus. with two different politics.
    one to deceive society into scaring them to go outside and abandon your jobs for working class , and another encouraging society to yes go outside those that are healthy  ,but with precautions and keeping distance whenever is possible.

    if something looks like shit , smell like shit , and feels like shit when stepping inside it ,is because is shit. And this covid19 pandemic is a hoax of major legendary proportions , looks like a failed false flag operation from the west .

     with a real virus ,but with a mountain of lies in the narrative . all done to justify taking away people freedoms , their ability of most of population to sustain themselves and feed their family ,sending majority of population to live on their cars and fully dependent each month ,on government stimulus checks ,for food checks and with rigged like their elections vaccines that will become mandatory in all population if want to go to work and live.


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    Post  elconquistador Thu 28 Jan 2021, 07:16

    kvs wrote:Not to contradict the numbers above, but Covid-19 is distinctive in that it produces more acute cases than the flu and loads
    up ERs. The lockdowns are about covering up the failure of the health care systems in the west. Thanks to decades of
    bed reductions and nursing staff cuts, hospitals are husks of the what they were 50 years ago. They are simply not able
    to deal with pandemics. Of course during this time the public cost for running health care system has skyrocketed and
    this money has gone into Big Pharma pockets. The 10% annual health care inflation is not about improving medicine
    and treatment, it is about rackets such as repackaging of old drugs under new labels to get patent protection extended
    and to gouge with new prices.

    Doctors are the Big Pharma gang local dealers. Big Pharma funds their vacations and brainwashes them at lavish conferences
    so that they run back to their practices with the latest drugs. General physicians are no more than low grade medical
    technicians even if they are put on a pedestal higher than scientists. They don't have the critical skills necessary to
    see through the Big Pharma BS and don't even care to resist the full bore bribery.

    And governments such as those in Canada rubber stamp this corruption.


    Where I am from the ICU capacity is now at 60 percent of what it was 10 years ago. In those 10 years the population has increased and the general population has become older.

    Some rogue (or young and naive) journalist once asked the local CDC leader 'why don't we just increase the ICU capacity if there might be a shortage of beds coming', after which the CDC tool said 'we don't want the nurses lingering around doing nothing'

    That was at the height of the pandemic. LOL

    I'd also like to add that in my view the main goal of the lockdowns is to wreck the middle class and thereby concentrate wealth and power in the hands of the 0.001 percent. ~50 percent of the small business in San Francisco have already filed bankruptcy, millions have descended into the 'I don't even 10k USD/EU to my name' class

    All that prime property is going to be bought up for pennies on the dollar by large real estate companies and other maggots. And who knows what will come after that, think digital 'health passports' (read conpliance passports) or even a controlled implosion of the USD as the World reserve currency (a switch to an international digital block chain currency)

    It's by design.

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    Post  Sujoy Thu 28 Jan 2021, 08:28

    India's ambassador in Russia has taken the Sputnik-V vaccine

    https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/indias-russia-envoy-reveals-taking-sputnik-v-vaccine-affirms-india-russia-strategic-ties.html
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    Post  Vann7 Thu 28 Jan 2021, 08:33

    elconquistador wrote:

    I'd also like to add that in my view the main goal of the lockdowns is to wreck the middle class and thereby concentrate wealth and power in the hands of the 0.001 percent. ~50 percent of the small business in San Francisco have already filed bankruptcy, millions have descended into the 'I don't even 10k USD/EU to my name' class

    All that prime property is going to be bought up for pennies on the dollar by large real estate companies and other maggots. And who knows what will come after that, think digital 'health passports' (read conpliance passports) or even a controlled implosion of the USD as the World reserve currency (a switch to an international digital block chain currency)

    It's by design.


    Unfortunately ,everything from every angle you look it ,what you said ,pretty much looks is what is happening .  No

    And what will happen next?

    if i where to guess is the Great Reset . Canadian parliament is discussing this and davos organizers too and british royal family.

    Basically the end of all physical currency and private property from majority of society at least. and as you said the transfer of all wealth to the super rich ,  the major banks will own all properties , from those that were forced out of their jobs by the corrupt government .

    i though about it like a plutocracy ,a system where the rich make the laws and controls the government ,but it looks like the rape on society will be even greater , the return of feudalism and
    this things can only be done if planned for a long time a go including this scamdemic covid19
    engineered operation ,it will be perfect to justify to justify endless lockdowns and sending most society poor and jobless and homeless and 100% dependent on the super billionaires and trillionaires that are running this hoax in the anglosphere west.

    The next article call the great reset , bio-techno feudalism.


    I’ll examine the prospects for the Great Reset in future installments. But suffice it to say for now that the WEF envisions a bio-techno-feudalist global order, with socioeconomic planners and corporate “stakeholders” at the helm and the greater part of humanity in their thrall. The mass of humanity, the planners would have it, will live under an economic stasis of reduced expectations, with individual autonomy greatly curtailed if not utterly obliterated. As Mises suggested, such planners are authoritarians who mean to supplant the plans of individual actors with their own, centralized plans. If enacted, such plans would fail, but their adoption would nevertheless exact a price.

    https://mises.org/wire/what-great-reset-part-i-reduced-expectations-and-bio-techno-feudalism

    I have some ideas of how it could be too , i think 99% of society will own nothing , all your private
    properties will belong to the mafia that engineered this pandemic ,people like soros ,rockefellers and bill gates. And everything you are allowed to have or use.. will be similar to what they are already doing with subscription paid service. For example the internet.. you don't own the internet ,you pay a life time service for it ,and always you will have to pay a monthly fee, same is with movies , you subscribe netflix and pay each month for it, this payment will likely become a digital currency they will introduce and the way you will earn this currency is with monthly stimulus checks society who behave correctly as they and workers who work as animals as they want . this will mean the suspension of all your freedoms and rights , not even your children if they allow you to have them ,will be yours and cameras in your houses ,by this elites to spy on you. and if they like your wife or your children they will take it.  the rulers will be those very few ones ,who have most lands ,and have major stocks in major companies. The army will not work for governments but for richest.. and will have nuclear weapons too ,it will be the end of government as we know it , and the return of middle ages feudalism with a high tech and biopharma flavor. What will be legal or not will be what your land lord says it is.. The return of human slavery ,but this time not just on blacks ,but any skin color.
    so really dark times awaits humanity if this is what they intend to do as it looks they could want.,
    unless Russia and china manage to build a new system ,with alternative major high tech business and pharma industry ,replacing the western ones and manage to convince europe to abandon the anglo feudalism world they seeking to implement. To rule forever like emperors, and if people protest ,here is where the vaccines will come to their rescue , they will likely inject people with double purpose vaccines ,that will be engineered to react to any future virus they unleash in anyway they desire ,so means those vaccines will give the elites full control over society health ,when they live or die as get away with it ,by blaming it on your bad health ,or a new virus ,that they could claim came from venezuela or iran.

    Whatever thing happens. as it was in the past ,with or without covid , pandemics or not , the future
    or humanity with greatly depend of the decisions that Europe takes ,who they choose to follow or lead. Because anglosphere powers can't implement any system without Europe support...
    not even US sanctions and isolation of russia or china will work without europe help and follow on their sanctions.

    not Even NATO could exist ,if europe move very close to the euro-asian orbit ,emerging economies and take distance from the anglo western tyranny ,transfer of wealth project. so called great reset.
    people who lost everything might see this monthly stimulus checks as heaven ,unless they told what kind of favors they will have to give back , including their children ,for libertard pedophiles abuse.

    i personally don't think this evil plans will work long term ,to try to slave all humanity will not last
    long ,people will find ways to resist this and overthrow them. but this doesn't mean the 1% elites
    will not try and see.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu 28 Jan 2021, 09:49

    So all the links you posted literally support the numbers I stated

    and yes it is a 2-3 rate when you average all the age groups together. Sure it's lower if you focus on a specific age group and yes the number of actual infected people is higher than we know and EVERYONE has said this. Because a lot of the people who have it, don't show signs.

    Bodies piling up on the street? no, again this is worldwide deaths, sure if it was all in one country then maybe but it's spread out.

    https://covid19.who.int/

    next time read your own links better because you put your foot in your mouth. Your entire response only backed up what I said.

    confirmed cases are reported in the link you sent

    99,864,391

    global deaths are according to the link you posted

    2,149,700

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    Post  elconquistador Thu 28 Jan 2021, 11:17

    Dude stop lying.

    None of the links, none of the academic studies provided speak of a 2-3 percent IFR.

    The studies work on the basis of antibodies detected in the n-group, not on the basis of brain dead idiots rushing to the hospital to get themselves locked inside their homes for 3 weeks plus on the basis of a low fever and a lingering cough

    Which is what Covid19 is for the majority of the infected. Many don't even realise they have been infected, a staggering 20-30 percent doesn't develop any symptoms at all

    These studies were later backed up by results coming in from bloodbanks (in various countries) that reported a much higher percentage of antibodies amongst their donors (often in the double digits) than the 'official' institutes showed.

    And yes, a virus with the infectiousness of Covid1984 and an IFR of 2-3 percent would have indeed resulted in the breakdown of society


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    Post  elconquistador Thu 28 Jan 2021, 11:22

    In other news, the flu has been found.

    It has disappeared. Globally

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    Post  GarryB Thu 28 Jan 2021, 11:52

    if the virus becomes more lethal , it will be less viral , you can't have both ways .


    Duh.

    Human beings are like a virus and are destroying the home we live in... the earth... and like a human body reacting to catching a virus it is increasing its temperature to try and kill the infection.

    The solution for Humans is the same as the solution for viruses... it is to learn to live in the environment it finds itself in so that both can survive and continue to live... a virus that kills its host has no more future than its now dead host... just the same as they future for humans is bleak if we keep polluting and expanding out of control.

    As viruses evolve and develop in a new environment (ie a new host) they adapt and try to spread more easily and more efficiently but also be less harmful to the bodies they are adapting to because when they kill a host they are effectively doing themselves out of a home.
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    Post  elconquistador Thu 28 Jan 2021, 12:15

    53 Dead in Gibraltar in 10 Days After Experimental Pfizer mRNA COVID Injections Started​
    I have been contacted by residents in Gibraltar stating that 53 people have died in 10 days immediately following the roll out of injections of the Pfizer mRNA COVID injections, and calling it a “massacre.”

    Local media reports confirm the deaths, but blame them on COVID, and not the COVID injections.

    However, prior to the roll out of the injections, it is reported that only 16 people in total died “from COVID” since the beginning of the “pandemic” about a year ago.

    Full story

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    Post  Vann7 Thu 28 Jan 2021, 16:10

    elconquistador wrote:53 Dead in Gibraltar in 10 Days After Experimental Pfizer mRNA COVID Injections Started​
    I have been contacted by residents in Gibraltar stating that 53 people have died in 10 days immediately following the roll out of injections of the Pfizer mRNA COVID injections, and calling it a “massacre.”

    Local media reports confirm the deaths, but blame them on COVID, and not the COVID injections.

    However, prior to the roll out of the injections, it is reported that only 16 people in total died “from COVID” since the beginning of the “pandemic” about a year ago.

    Full story


    wow! Shocked

    This does not surprise me at all , pfizer and moderna are hiding their numbers , and the cases
    we know are only those civilians that went directly to alternative media to tell their story.
    like i said a bit earlier , all this "delays in production " from pfizer and moderna ,allowing Russian vaccine to nearly capture all mexico market , right next to US borders is real game changing news.
    Something really bad had to happen for pfizer and moderna to stop the production of vaccine and warning that will take months before they supply more to new york.

    if this theory is correct as i think it could , this could force them to back down and limit their depopulation project to Anglo countries only.. where they will have exclusivity to capture all their market.



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    Post  elconquistador Thu 28 Jan 2021, 16:12

    @Vann

    The topic of the Great Reset deserves its own thread.

    The plans of the Frankensteins in Davos are out in the open, that's the level of arrogance they have

    Arrogance and desperation at the same time, for this powergrab comes with immense risks

    As for the future powerblocs and the role of Europe (which is a dying continent and should not be overestimated in any sense), countries like Italy and Hungary are already showing not to be on board with vital pillars of The Great Reset. Same goes for regional powerhouses like Brazil and India, even though the globalists doing 'a Trump' on Bolsonaro belongs to the realm of possibilities

    That is on top of Iran (+Axis of Resistance), China (+ all Asian countries that will fall in its regional RCEP new trading block), Russia (+whatever alliances they have) and probably the anti-imperialist forces in LATIN America (Cuba-Venezuela -Nicaragua and possibly other Leftist governments)

    Africa is no place for a Fourth Industrial Revolution and will turn into the last refuge from mass surveillance and government overreach.

    The Great Reset will fail, but it will come at a great price.
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    Post  kvs Thu 28 Jan 2021, 18:34

    elconquistador wrote:53 Dead in Gibraltar in 10 Days After Experimental Pfizer mRNA COVID Injections Started​
    I have been contacted by residents in Gibraltar stating that 53 people have died in 10 days immediately following the roll out of injections of the Pfizer mRNA COVID injections, and calling it a “massacre.”

    Local media reports confirm the deaths, but blame them on COVID, and not the COVID injections.

    However, prior to the roll out of the injections, it is reported that only 16 people in total died “from COVID” since the beginning of the “pandemic” about a year ago.

    Full story

    All the lying the media has been doing about Russia for the last 30 years could not have come without a price. Professional
    liar journalists would serve the interests of their owners on the domestic front as well.

    This Pfizer miracle cure snake oil is something else. Yeah, I want to play Russian roulette with my vaccine. Maybe it will do some good,
    but maybe I will be f*cked up. Seems like taking my chances with Covid-19 is the better option. At least that way my immunity would
    be natural and not some gene therapy BS.

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    Nice run down of the EU screw up on vaccine deployment.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu 28 Jan 2021, 19:41

    kvs wrote:
    Nice run down of the EU screw up on vaccine deployment.
    Just a bit of a post divorce tiff going on.

    The UK, who paid for the development at Oxford University, put OU together with AZ as the production partner and got orders in for production three months ahead of the EU. The UK got the vaccine approved over two months ago, the EU still doesn't have it approved. The UK have a highly advanced distribution and deployment system up and running concentrating on the most vulnerable and those over 80, Germany has now said they will not give it to anyone over 65.

    With Pfizer, again we got it approved, ordered and the low temperature distribution system up and running well ahead of the EU.

    Our opposition party wanted to join the EU order/distribution system, fortunately they are not in power. Many Remainers are now very pleased that we got our independence back and could do it on our own.

    It seems to me that the EU is trying to hide their bureaucratic incompetence behind blaming us. Wait for all hell to let loose if AZ goes with Sputnik V to boost its efficacy.
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    Post  par far Thu 28 Jan 2021, 19:52

    elconquistador wrote:@Vann

    The topic of the Great Reset deserves its own thread.

    The plans of the Frankensteins in Davos are out in the open, that's the level of arrogance they have

    Arrogance and desperation at the same time, for this powergrab comes with immense risks

    As for the future powerblocs and the role of Europe (which is a dying continent and should not be overestimated in any sense), countries like Italy and Hungary are already showing not to be on board with vital pillars of The Great Reset. Same goes for regional powerhouses like Brazil and India, even though the globalists doing 'a Trump' on Bolsonaro belongs to the realm of possibilities

    That is on top of Iran (+Axis of Resistance), China (+ all Asian countries that will fall in its regional RCEP new trading block), Russia (+whatever alliances they have) and probably the anti-imperialist forces in LATIN America (Cuba-Venezuela -Nicaragua and possibly other Leftist governments)

    Africa is no place for a Fourth Industrial Revolution and will turn into the last refuge from mass surveillance and government overreach.

    The Great Reset will fail, but it will come at a great price.



    We should make a thread on the Great Reset, I still can't wrap my head around it, the globalists have failed so far, I wonder what makes them think that this great reset is a good idea?
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    Post  kvs Fri 29 Jan 2021, 02:29

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cuomo-admin-under-counted-covid-19-nursing-home-death-50-ny-ag-report-finds

    New York State Attorney General Letitia James released a report on Thursday detailing the investigations her office has conducted into nursing homes policies and actions during the pandemic. The report shows that the nursing home deaths in New York State were likely undercounted by up to 50 percent.

    But Navalny drew out "massive" protests of millions and millions.

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    Post  Vann7 Fri 29 Jan 2021, 11:27

    Great Reset looks more like a plan by the western super rich elites like soros and rockefellers to hold power and control over their anglozionist empires.  because they understand the american economy
    fraud will not last forever , the printing of dollars ,they seem to be seeking for a way to have guarantees of holding their fortunes and power ,and that anglozionist nations are never overthrow ,
    by society ,if experience major economic crisis..  in other words they need ABSOLUTE and total
    control over society as much you have over your pets. and that no matter what happens ,how bad
    evil the government becomes or how bad the economy is ,that they will never be overthrow.
    and how can that be done?  the only to rule like dictators forever is  by controlling everything that society most value and appreciate.

    what things society more value and appreciate?

    1) their lives .
    2) their properties ,house and car and things inside.
    3) their food.
    4)their families and relations.

    they are destroying the #4 one with their liberal far left politics. to weaken society ability to unite.
    and from 1-3 they are taking care with this engineered pandemic crisis and properties will be taken
    with the "great reset" or better said the "great take over" over all properties.. and take over over your own body health. This for sure are not short term plans. might take a decade or or more to implement them. slowly ,step by step ,so people don't panic and start a revolution too early before they have control over your health and properties.

    This is where the covid19 plan-demic comes to the rescue.. unleash a virus in the world ,that their elites are already vaccinated from it , convince society that they need to abandon their jobs to
    "Save their lives" with help of media and later demand forced vaccination if want to go outside and work with trojan horse vaccines designed to give them control of when you live or die. or get sick.
    and if all that wasn't enough take control of all your properties ,when you fail to pay the rent.

    Naturally russia and china did not support this plans , but they can still implement this to control
    half of the planet and will be happy with it. what could ruin completely their plans is if china "miracle development " or better said a government with true ambitions for the future ,manage to surpass the western high tech industry from A to Z and collapse their business. hence why they have to block huawei and 5G  Wink   the thing the west really fear is china high tech post industrial development.. this not only could bypass silicon valley business and american economy too , but also will attract the world into the chinesse orbit ,and disband the western world order, since everyone like to follow those who lead.  this should be the reason why china is very ambitious on its high tech industry and in space. these are the business ,that can influence more the world . those business that directly society more enjoy and connected to improve their quality of  lives of society and give a hope for a much better future.


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