Russian special military operation in Ukraine #45

A different view of that minefield debacle from the start of the offensive.

Someone should tell those geniuses in Washington/Brussels/Kiev that those MRAP vehicles are not made for the modern battlefield.

Western experts: Russia has now less tanks than before the war.
Russia: Sure. 

According to @polk105


Map of the location of Ukrainian troops in the Artyomovsk direction

According to our intelligence, there are now about 67,000 people in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction.

The 4th brigade of the Russian Armed Forces, which is defending the borders of Kleshcheevka, is drawing on itself about 11,000 enemy personnel.

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JohninMK wrote:These are the missiles that began to appear in the Armed Forces of Ukraine

This is the S-125 air defense system, which was outdated and was withdrawn from service even under the curtain of the USSR, in the 80s, writes a Russian engineer

But they remained in the warehouses, and now they were pulled out. As a means of air defense, it is hopelessly outdated against modern aircraft, but it is possible that it is being finalized in Poland because it remained in service with them and underwent modernization.

Perhaps these are direct Polish deliveries, to at least somehow strengthen the air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine because modern air defense systems are sent to them in homeopathic volumes.

Another option is that they will use them as an ersatz strike missile. These systems can be modified to work on ground targets, and the range along the ballistic trajectory is quite good.

In general, this shows the level of degradation of the air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which means that the moment is already close when the integral system will fall apart into focal zones, without the possibility of using an ambush, due to a lack of launchers.

And then the picture on the battlefield will change very dramatically and greatly, not in favor of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In the meantime, we must continue to lancet and geranize the air defense systems of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and hunt them, bringing the moment when the sky over Ukraine becomes safe for our aviation.

The penchora 2M upgrade is still a capable system. Although the basic Sa-3 is outdated for sure. But as mentioned they may turn this into a surface to surface missile through being desperate.

A few months after the war started there was articles that Ukraine deployed it's older systems in Western Ukraine Sa-6, Sa-5, Sa-3, Sa-2, Sa-9. Although not many photos. Although some experts believe that either warehouses holding this equipment was bombed at the start of the war or that these systems were completely neglected by Ukraine over the decades and were no longer in a state of being used or reactivated. I would imagine Sa-2 and Sa-9 would be in a terrible state and no longer been in a fit state. Sa-5 and Sa-3 was retired around 2010- 2013 in Ukraine so could have been able to reactivate but I would have thought Russia would have taken out warehouses containing these. Sa-6 was reactivated not so long ago with the help of Poland. But Russia knows this system very well and knows it's weaknesses. As others have stated the Sa-3 most likely came from Poland. Despite all this none of these systems are going to save them and only shows NATO are either not willing or unable to supply more AD systems.

What next FROG-7 as a substitute for HIMARS and PT-76 and T-34 on the Frontline up against T-72 & T-90???

S-125 mods benefit from very old design base. Every single component is much smaller and much lighter. So by changing any part inside we get a weight gain, that evolves into altitude and range. Latest Pechora mods made both by Russia and Belarus can be extremely dangerous weapons, with the attack envelope having nothing in common with old system and missiles.
I guess that there is only one serious cause of doing that - enormous export potential as more S-125 systems operated worldwide than in the Soviet Union. And those are not Richie Rich countries, as you can imagine.

Russian Forces inside Russia guarding the Ukrainian borders as per an Ukrainian correspondent blogger... no Russian sources as this would violate security!:

1) Operational group "Bryansk" (command post (KP) – the area of Starodub)

- motorized rifle regiments (MSP) TRV – 1
- separate battalions – 9 (of which – motorized rifle, airborne - 5, rifle – 4)
- field artillery and MLRS –7 firing batteries (of which – self-propelled artillery – 3, howitzer artillery - 2, rocket artillery - 2)

The total number of personnel is more than 7 thousand.

2) Operational group "Kursk" (KP – district of Rylsk)

- motorized rifle regiments (MSP) TRV - 2
- separate battalions – 10 (of which – motorized rifle, tank, airborne and amphibious assault - 5, rifle battalions - 5)
– separate tactical detachments of special forces (SpN) – 1
- field artillery and MLRS -12 firing batteries (of which - 1, self-propelled artillery - 1, howitzer artillery - 3, rocket artillery - 2, anti-tank artillery - min 1)

The total number of personnel is more than 8.5 thousand.

3) Operational group "Belgorod" (KP – district of Borisovka)

- motorized rifle regiments (MSP) TRV-1
- separate battalions – 15 (of which – motorized rifle – 8, rifle – 7)
- artillery divisions (?) – 5 (of which – separate howitzer-artillery – 1, separate anti-tank artillery – 4)
- separate fire batteries of field artillery and MLRS – 20 (of which – self-propelled artillery batteries – 4, howitzer artillery - 7, rocket artillery – 1, anti-tank artillery –
- separate consolidated tactical detachments (up to a battalion) – 4 [NOTE: probably refers to the local territorial defense units raised by the Oblast]

The total number of personnel is more than 10.7 thousand.

NOTE: Grand total over 26,000. TRV would be territorial defense regiments as would those rifle battalions.

JohninMK wrote:According to @polk105


Map of the location of Ukrainian troops in the Artyomovsk direction

According to our intelligence, there are now about 67,000 people in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction.

The 4th brigade of the Russian Armed Forces, which is defending the borders of Kleshcheevka, is drawing on itself about 11,000 enemy personnel.

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The more important news is how many are left than how many are attacking.

franco wrote:Russian Forces inside Russia guarding the Ukrainian borders as per an Ukrainian correspondent blogger... no Russian sources as this would violate security!:

1) Operational group "Bryansk" (command post (KP) – the area of Starodub)

- motorized rifle regiments (MSP) TRV – 1
- separate battalions – 9 (of which – motorized rifle, airborne - 5, rifle – 4)
- field artillery and MLRS –7 firing batteries (of which – self-propelled artillery – 3, howitzer artillery - 2, rocket artillery - 2)

The total number of personnel is more than 7 thousand.

2) Operational group "Kursk" (KP – district of Rylsk)

- motorized rifle regiments (MSP) TRV - 2
- separate battalions – 10 (of which – motorized rifle, tank, airborne and amphibious assault - 5, rifle battalions - 5)
– separate tactical detachments of special forces (SpN) – 1
- field artillery and MLRS -12 firing batteries (of which - 1, self-propelled artillery - 1, howitzer artillery - 3, rocket artillery - 2, anti-tank artillery - min 1)

The total number of personnel is more than 8.5 thousand.

3) Operational group "Belgorod" (KP – district of Borisovka)

- motorized rifle regiments (MSP) TRV-1
- separate battalions – 15 (of which – motorized rifle – 8, rifle – 7)
- artillery divisions (?) – 5 (of which – separate howitzer-artillery – 1, separate anti-tank artillery – 4)
- separate fire batteries of field artillery and MLRS – 20 (of which – self-propelled artillery batteries – 4, howitzer artillery - 7, rocket artillery – 1, anti-tank artillery –
- separate consolidated tactical detachments (up to a battalion) – 4 [NOTE: probably refers to the local territorial defense units raised by the Oblast]

The total number of personnel is more than 10.7 thousand.

NOTE: Grand total over 26,000. TRV would be territorial defense regiments as would those rifle battalions.

And the 150K that aren't in Ukraine are where?

Hence why I'm unsure about this claim.

First wedge:

Canada Announces Opposition to Use of Cluster Munitions Amid US Supplies to Ukraine, 07.08.2023.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The Canadian government said on Saturday that it remained opposed to the use of cluster munitions following the United States' decision to deliver such weapons to Ukraine.

"We do not support the use of cluster munitions and are committed to putting an end to the effects cluster munitions have on civilians – particularly children," the government's statement was quoted as saying by media.

Ottawa's stance on the matter is guided by the Convention on Cluster Munitions to which it is a signatory, the government reportedly added. The treaty prohibits the production, use, transfer and stockpiling of cluster munitions.

"Canada is fully compliant with the Convention and we take seriously our obligation under the Convention to encourage its universal adoption," the statement read.

On Friday, the United States unveiled a new military assistance package for Ukraine that includes cluster munitions. The weapons are banned by the international convention, which has been ratified by 123 countries, excluding the US and Ukraine.

Russian Ambassador to Washington Anatoly Antonov warned on Friday that the decision by the US to deliver cluster munitions to Ukraine was a "provocation" pushing humankind closer to a new world war.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20230708/canada-announces-opposition-to-use-of-cluster-munitions-amid-us-supplies-to-ukraine-1111753870.html

Consecutive wedges:

Britain and Canada opposed the use of cluster bombs in Ukraine, 07.08.2023.

Britain and Canada opposed the use of cluster munitions in Ukraine.

The authorities of Great Britain and Canada opposed the use of cluster shells in Ukraine after Washington's decision to transfer them to Kyiv. Both countries signed a convention banning these munitions. Russia, Ukraine and the United States did not sign it.

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said that London does not approve of the use of cluster munitions, reports Sky News. He noted that Britain is a party to a convention banning the use of such projectiles.

Sunak added that London would continue to provide military assistance to Kyiv, and recalled the supply of heavy tanks and long-range weapons by Britain.

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/08/07/2023/64a958b99a794764e8af1f18

And the 150K that aren't in Ukraine are where?

Hence why I'm unsure about this claim.

Suspect they would be further back away from the border. Even these units wouldn't be up against the border as they then become targets. As for the validity of the numbers, who knows as those that do aren't telling... just a point of reference. Most troops in the rear are kept at the training grounds doing training. There are also military bases in all 3 regions that are back away from the border so suspect they would have more forces there. Only the 3rd Division base around Valuyki, in Belgorod, is in range of Ukrainian shelling.

Azov commanders back in Kiev from Turkey. Once more has been proven that Turkish "guarantees" are not worth for shit. With such "allies", who needs enemies? Let's see another "goodwill gesture" grain deal extension.

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What is the reaction of Jenny the Penny over all this?

Spain Joins NATO Allies, UN in Opposing US Transfer of Cluster Munitions to Ukraine, by Ilya Tsukanov for Sputnikglobe.com. 07.08.2023.

The Biden administration signed off on the delivery of howitzer-launched cluster munitions to Ukraine on Friday of a kind which the US military had previously pledged to destroy. Russian officials condemned the move as a major escalation.

Spain does not support the US decision to send cluster munitions to Ukraine, Defense Minister Margarita Robles has announced.

"Spain, based on the firm commitment it has to Ukraine, also has a firm commitment that certain weapons and bombs cannot be delivered under any circumstances," Robles said.

As a party to the Convention on Cluster Munitions, Spain has a "clear and resounding" position on this type of weapon, and the US decision to send the arms to Ukraine was "not a NATO decision," she added.

The US announced Friday that it would be sending cluster munitions to Ukraine as part of a new $800 million military aid package, citing the need to improve Kiev's military capabilities against Russian forces. Cluster munitions are an extremely lethal weapon containing dozens or hundreds of explosive bomblets which saturate across wide areas, with some failing to detonate on impact and subsequently coming to pose a risk to non-combatants and the local environment.

The weapons' deployment in urban areas threatens to cause mass casualties among civilians. Kiev has assured Washington that it would not use cluster munitions in civilian areas, but has been known to systematically deploy its NATO-provided artillery, HIMARS rockets and cruise missiles against civilian infrastructure in the Donbass, Crimea and other parts of Russia.

Spain is one of several US allies to express opposition to the US decision on the delivery of cluster munitions to Ukraine, with Germany, Britain, and Canada also doing so. The United Nations has also expressed opposition to the move, with dozens of human rights groups and anti-war movements condemning Washington over the decision.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20230708/spain-joins-nato-allies-un-in-opposing-us-transfer-of-cluster-munitions-to-ukraine-1111755149.html

The only decisive thing I can remember Putin doing to Turkey was the sanctions after the su 24 was shot down in 2015. But they were lifted after they made up.

caveat emptor wrote:Azov commanders back in Kiev from Turkey. Once more  has been proven that Turkish "guarantees" are not worth for shit. With such "allies", who needs enemies? Let's see another "goodwill gesture" grain deal extension.

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that is the second slight against Putin this week, first Pregozhin igores his exile, now Erdogan does this. Whats going on. If the grain deal gets renewed I will say Putin is no longer in charge.

And now this

Ukraine wins Turkey’s backing for Nato membership but Biden urges caution on timing

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/08/ukraine-wins-turkeys-backing-for-nato-membership-but-biden-urges-caution-on-timing

d_taddei2 wrote:And now this

Ukraine wins Turkey’s backing for Nato membership but Biden urges caution on timing

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/08/ukraine-wins-turkeys-backing-for-nato-membership-but-biden-urges-caution-on-timing

that is just Erdogan fucking with NATO, no one in NATO wants Ukraine part of NATO

Apparently, Putin is scheduled to have a meeting with Erdogan next month, but with the recent backstabbing moves by Turkey, I don't see any reason for such a meeting to happen.

At this point, any gesture of "Goodwill" will only be perceived as a sign of weakness. Terminate the grain deal and find where these Azov Nazis are housed in Ukraine and send in Kinzhals to exterminate them and their families. Killing the Azov Nazis should be the first of many more Denazification actions to come as the SMO progresses.

Ukraine won't get into NATO but Putin needs to get his shit together. Prigohzin going back untouched and now Erdogan. That country keeps pushing its luck because Russia does nothing. A nuclear super power getting pushed around. Hilarious

Flat trajectory. Direct fire mode?

caveat emptor wrote:Azov commanders back in Kiev from Turkey. Once more  has been proven that Turkish "guarantees" are not worth for shit. With such "allies", who needs enemies? Let's see another "goodwill gesture" grain deal extension.

https://t.me/milinfolive/103278

301 Military
@301military
The main theses of the press secretary of the President of Russia, Dmitry Peskov, regarding the return of the "Azov" personnel from Turkey are as follows:

- The return of the "Azov" personnel from Turkey to Ukraine violates the existing agreements. Both the Turkish and Ukrainian sides have violated the conditions.

- According to the agreements, they were supposed to stay in Turkey until the end of the conflict.

- Russia was not informed about the transfer of the "Azov" personnel to Ukraine.

- The decision to hand them over to Kyiv, in violation of existing agreements, is directly related to the failures in the Ukrainian Armed Forces' counteroffensive.

- There was significant pressure on Turkey in the context of preparations for the NATO summit, and Ankara, as a member of the alliance, shows solidarity with it. The Russian authorities understand this perfectly well.
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The Ukrainian TG channel " Resident " writes that his source in Zelensky's OP told how they managed to pick up the leaders of Azov*:

" For three weeks, the Russian Aerospace Forces methodically destroyed Turkish proxies in Syrian Idlib. Erdogan could not prevent this by military means, which made him very angry with the Russians.

Having learned about this through intelligence sources, the Office of the President came out with a request to hand over the Azov people. The stars successfully converged - and the captured commanders from Azovstal go home to raise Zelensky's rating before the obviously indiscriminate NATO summit. Moreover, under AZOV they launched a campaign of 500 days of heroic resistance, on Bankovaya they are slowly transforming the meanings from the liberation of Ukrainian lands to heroic defense / protracted war.

* The Azov National Battalion is recognized as a terrorist organization and banned in the Russian Federation

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So if they violated the agreements, then what will Russia do?

Cancel meeting between Putin and Erdogan, cancel the grain deal and ultimately put pressure on turkey via turk stream. Turkey needs cheap gad way more than Russia needs the money and Turkeys economy is faltering. Why give them so much leniency?

In the middle of the convoy is a Pantsir, with radar operating.

I wanted to tribute this post to all the attention the RF troops give to the animals cached up in the war.

Animals can not fend for themselves and are assigned to us humans for their well-being
The Nazi's do not care whatever happens to anyone, animals and humans alike.
But the DPR/LPR/RF people do.
It is one of those many reasons it distinguishes them as Professionals from Savages.

There are more examples of this during the war, but below are some of the footage i have of it.


Russian Embedded reporter at the surrender of Ukrainian troops from Azovstal Mariupol
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Servicemen of the People's Militia of the DPR not only provide humanitarian assistance to civilians, but also rescue domestic animals


twelve caged Ukrainian police dogs rescued in the mariupol area. now willl serve the DPR.


RF Troops took custody of a dolphinarium in a resort town in the Kherson region.