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    Post  PhSt Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:24 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    As expected Russians pussied out and let them go, classic


    This is quite sad, like what were the Russians expecting from the US side to do in return for this favor? NATO expanded to Finland, and weapons continue to flow to Ukraine. All Russian red lines continue to be crossed. Russians should just have massacred all the Americans there to send a subtle signal attack
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    Post  franco Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:32 pm

    Russians should just have massacred all the Americans there to send a subtle signal


    That is about as subtle as a brick to the head Twisted Evil

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:33 pm

    There comes a point where constant humiliation and other side breaking contracts should start garnering some distrust on the side of the party getting screwed. But yet, Russia continues to regularly get screwed by NATO countries and they keep making excuses for them and going for more agreements.

    I do wonder if Putin does run the country. Because he has contradicted himself and shown how his actions vs what he says are two different things.

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    Post  PhSt Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:01 pm

    Theres a lot of noise and propaganda that's being spread by NATO in relation to these recent events, its hard to know which info is factual or not. However, this brazen actions by Turkey needs a strong rebuttal from Russia. Grain deal needs to be terminated. The entire port of Odesa especially facilities that can be used for transporting grains, munitions and supplies needs to be decimated along with related support infrastructures like power and rail line. If Russia can locate grain silos, blow them up too. I have been advocating for a long time, Russia needs to destroy Ukraine's food and water supply and storage facilities. Starving Ukraine will accelerate its disintegration and will add more burden to their NATO sponsors.

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    Post  sepheronx Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:17 pm

    Turkey can patrol all they want. But there won't be much to patrol if the Odessa ports are destroyed or the vessels.

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    Post  VARGR198 Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:31 pm

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    Post  Arrow Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:39 pm

    "The Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to attack the Desnogorsk nuclear power plant in the Smolensk region and the military airfield in the Kaluga region with missiles.
    Presumably, the British Storm Shadow - this is indicated by the wreckage that is right now being found at the site of their fall. And if this is confirmed, today's attack will be the first recorded case of the use of NATO missiles on the Russian rear, which Ukraine guaranteed not to do.
    Both shells were shot down by Russian air defense - in the sky over the village of Bytosh, Bryansk region around 14:00. The first fell into the field, the second - into the territory of the sawmill. The video shows the consequences of the strike and the impressions of the locals."

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    Post  ucmvulcan Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:21 pm

    Arrow wrote:"The Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to attack the Desnogorsk nuclear power plant in the Smolensk region and the military airfield in the Kaluga region with missiles.
    Presumably, the British Storm Shadow - this is indicated by the wreckage that is right now being found at the site of their fall. And if this is confirmed, today's attack will be the first recorded case of the use of NATO missiles on the Russian rear, which Ukraine guaranteed not to do.
    Both shells were shot down by Russian air defense - in the sky over the village of Bytosh, Bryansk region around 14:00. The first fell into the field, the second - into the territory of the sawmill. The video shows the consequences of the strike and the impressions of the locals."

    I predict fireworks in Odessa, Lvov, and Kiev tonight. I know Putin does not want to escalate but he has to drive these clowns back to the Dniepr

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:31 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    As expected Russians pussied out and let them go, classic





    so glad they shared with you all the details! cheers cheers cheers

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Sun Jul 09, 2023 6:53 pm

    sepheronx wrote:There comes a point where constant humiliation and other side breaking contracts should start garnering some distrust on the side of the party getting screwed. But yet, Russia continues to regularly get screwed by NATO countries and they keep making excuses for them and going for more agreements.

    I do wonder if Putin does run the country. Because he has contradicted himself and shown how his actions vs what he says are two different things.



    Above all, it is Putin who is responsible for it.


    https://asaland.proboards.com/thread/302/ukraine-participated-invasion-south-ossetia


    He always had this deep love for the ethnic Ukrainians.

    Now you see the results.



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    Post  ALAMO Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:03 pm

    GarryB wrote:The S-125 is not useless, but if Patriot and S-300 and NASAMs are not good enough to do the job I don't think they will be any sort of breakthrough no matter how upgraded they are.

    Not being very mobile their locations can be pin pointed and gliding bombs can be used to take them out while Kh-58 or Kh-31 can take out their radars.

    Ukrs had some S-125 sites around Odessa, and those have not been targeted quite a long into conflict. Smoked now.

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    Post  mnztr Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:05 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Turkey can patrol all they want. But there won't be much to patrol if the Odessa ports are destroyed or the vessels.


    There is no need to destroy the port. Russia can close it with mines and submarines quite easily. What they DO need to do is close the Western border. and destroy bridges all along there

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    Post  nomadski Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:10 pm

    Captured NAZI Rats ? I thought send them to Siberia . But someone exchanged them for Russian POW . I said if you release them and they return to war , then send them to Siberia . Have any been sent ? The economic intelligence unit of Russia , should determine degree of support of Farmers for the NAZI Rats , either voluntary or involuntarily . Does the Grain Dollars  go to  civilian economy ? Or to war effort , through taxes or donations ? If funds go to war , even small percentage of 20-30% , then stop Grain deal . Also Russia must inspect ships , under any and all circumstances . So if Turkey is in the way , and they open fire , or Grain ships themselves ,  then no choices left . Cluster submunitions delivered by Artillery shells , are only good against static soft targets , not mobile hard targets . One more reason to go on the offensive with Armour .


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    Post  Hole Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:39 pm

    All those attacks on NPPs, bridges, airports... You could get the impression a NATO meeting is coming up and someone tries desperately to look important.

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    Post  Backman Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:44 pm

    The easiest would be to just destroy the ports. And not hey mines and subs involved 


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    Post  Arrow Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:50 pm

    If there is political will, Russia will sink everything that floats in the Black Sea, including Turkish ships.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:09 pm

    Hole wrote:All those attacks on NPPs, bridges, airports... You could get the impression a NATO meeting is coming up and someone tries desperately to look important.

    I have just the same feeling.
    Noise must be created to make any positive narrative.
    This stupid cow from CNN was paraded along dead BETAB with serious face talking about "Kinzhal" is just the beginning.
    It seems that they have tried today to hit ANYTHING and are desperate enough to use S-200 missiles in ballistic mode only to make the "range" circle further.
    Russkie took those down as anything else.

    And if any of you even wondered what "NAFO" is in a real life ...
    "Enjoy"
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    But remember! You cant unseen what has been seen!

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:15 pm

    Interesting alternative to a StormShadow.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:20 pm

    Summary of lots of comments on SM.

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    🇰🇭🇺🇦 Cambodia urged Ukraine not to use cluster munitions.

    Prime Minister Hun Sen stated that his country had been dealing with the aftermath of the U.S. bombing of such munitions in the early 1970s for more than half a century.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:58 pm

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    Krasnopol-M2, after being teased by the MOD, is finally coming to the front.

    26km range and 90% kill score on stationary and 60% on moving. A huge upgrade from the previous iteration.

    Credit @MahotsukaiMokou

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    Post  Ispan Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:00 pm

    Blow by blow account of the last 3 days, with some observations

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/07/09/noticias-de-la-guerra-06-al-09-de-julio/

    also see previous entry on Ukrainian mosquito tactics

    https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2023/07/07/ofensiva-ucraniana-la-tactica-mosquito/

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Jul 09, 2023 9:32 pm

    Wonder who will fly them as Ukraine is surely short of pilots by now.

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    Post  PhSt Mon Jul 10, 2023 12:28 am

    Inflow of updates or maybe developments are kinda slow today. I hope to see Odessa burning by tomorrow. attack


    EDIT: There is talk on TG Channels that NATO will push forward with Ukraine's NATO membership, some suggestions include gradual NATO membership of Ukranian regions. It seems these thugs wont stop and will continue to push forward unless Russia makes a strong response. Russia needs to be aggressive. Hit NATO members Finland and the Baltics, destroy their populations, raze their cities and conquer their lands russia

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    Post  Regular Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:22 am

    PhSt wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    As expected Russians pussied out and let them go, classic


    This is quite sad, like what were the Russians expecting from the US side to do in return for this favor? NATO expanded to Finland, and weapons continue to flow to Ukraine. All Russian red lines continue to be crossed. Russians should just have massacred all the Americans there to send a subtle signal attack  
    Putin- we were lied to
    https://twitter.com/nikola_mikovic/status/1677943526355611648?s=20


    Never trust NATO. Fool me once…

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