Russian special military operation in Ukraine #58

lancelot wrote:Much like the West's "inspections" of Iraqi nuclear facilities this is just an attempt at propaganda and infiltration by the West which Russia should vigorously oppose. These "inspectors" should be outright banned from entering any Russian facilities.

The same IAEA that couldn't bring themselves to say who was shelling the ZNPP while having personnel stationed there. They're f*cking clowns and shouldn't be taken seriously by Russia, much like the OSCE they'll gladly feed intel to help the NATO-backed Ukroaches setup a 'surprise' attack.

America continues to feed its demons, by Andrey Polonsky for VZGLYAD. 06.21.2024.

The demons of Ukrainian Nazism have not been awakened today. And those who have been consciously feeding them all these decades will feel their full rage when these spirits remain hungry. But I’m afraid we won’t be sorry anymore. Neither one nor the other.

Characters in a number of American films loved one activity. They fed demons, wanting to turn them into servants, and then fell under their complete power, watching in amazement as they devoured their friends and loved ones. What's funny in movies is not so funny in politics. The collapsing twin towers - is it a bad lesson? But no, American uncles and aunts do not remember history lessons. They abandoned history altogether. Perhaps to your own destruction.

Recently, literally this June, the Americans lifted their own ban on the supply of weapons to the Azov battalion (recognized as a terrorist organization in Russia). Of course, Azov had previously received everything it needed from the main sponsors of the war. Much bigger and better than regular units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. So, purely militarily, nothing has changed.

But the point is not even about “Azov,” whose numbers are not so large as to warrant a special conversation about this from a purely practical point of view. The point is, in principle, in the symbol.

Restrictions on the supply of weapons to Azov and the disputes surrounding it remained perhaps the only recognition by the official States that neo-Nazism exists in Ukraine. But, apparently, the pro-Ukrainian lobby and the desire to “put Russia in its place” turned out to be stronger.

Previously, Americans were still forced to agree that “Azov” with its symbols, history of creation, ideology, internal atmosphere, father-commanders and personally the founder Andrei Biletsky (included in Russia in the register of terrorists and extremists) was already too much.

And here, against the backdrop of the problems of an ally at the front, such a total revision. No Nazism, no violations of human rights and no war crimes were found against the “Azovites”. Simply heroic defenders of Mariupol. The SS runes on tattoos and emblems disappeared somewhere, the ideas of nation and race were completely washed out of the brains of their comrades and dissolved in the near-earth space, and the members of the brigade, included as a separate unit in the valiant National Guard of Ukraine, turned almost into angels of democracy. One more effort - and they will be ready to go to the gay pride parade.

And the notorious Andrei Biletsky, who uttered a phrase ten years ago about how the Ukrainian nation is called upon to lead the last crusade of white humanity against the race of subhuman Semites, has long changed his mind. And what’s more, I forgot where and on what occasion he spoke like that. In addition, since 2014, the founder of Azov is not the commander of Azov. And the fact that he has the rank of colonel in the Ukrainian army and commands the Third Separate Assault Brigade is supposedly irrelevant to the case.

So giving weapons to “Azov” or not giving weapons to “Azov” are games of bureaucracy. They have given, they have given, and they will continue to give. But these are just games with far-reaching consequences.

The first layer of such consequences is internal to Ukraine.

The pressure of right-wing radicals, outright ultra-Nazis, organized into paramilitary or paramilitary formations, did not allow the Ukrainian authorities to take real steps towards resolving the conflict. And this situation has continued since 2014. Regardless of whether the government had even the slightest desire and remnants of intelligence, it would inevitably be swept away by a wave of violence from the right at the slightest movement towards reconciliation with Russia and part of its own people. The fact that Ukrainian ultranationalism became one of the main causes of this war is not a slogan of Russian propaganda. This is a simple, almost elementary fact embodied in political practice.

Extreme nationalism, almost Nazism, mixed with rabid Russophobia is still the most important factor in internal Ukrainian life. He, no worse than former British prime ministers, contributes to the breakdown of negotiations and views any attempt at peace as a form of national treason. And here the Americans, as warmongers, naturally legalize and encourage it, again forgetting that they are raising demons for their own destruction.

The second layer of problems associated with the official decision to supply weapons to Azov is already of a separate, purely Western nature. The West has long been familiar with the Nazi demon; it has already tried to set it against Russia. Everyone remembers what happened. And now, when before our eyes in Ukraine, ultra-right paramilitary nationalism has gained new strength and drunk with new blood, someone has forgotten that he has already played in these dangerous provocations.

And here all that remains is to throw up your hands in bewilderment.

Even today's Western analysts, with all their intoxication with their own ideological constructs, cannot fail to understand one simple thing. Whatever the outcome of events, this entire ultra-right nationalist wave will rush towards them and will become an inevitable factor in their internal life. This will happen if the Ukrainian state ceases to exist, and the West receives crowds of embittered Nazi-charged refugees accustomed to weapons. This will happen in another scenario, when the Ukrainian state remains in one form or another and it will have to deal with its own ultra-right pack. The outcome of these people will still be the same - to the world of the “golden billion”.

At the same time, the connections of the same “Azov” with paramilitary ultra-right circles in the USA and Europe are no secret for the American intelligence services. Here are the famous “Atomwaffen division”, and RAM militants from Southern California, and the “Northern Resistance Movement” in Scandinavia. At some point, American experts even had an epiphany, and they wrote about the amazing similarities between the Ukrainian Nazis and Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), and compared Azov’s Western recruiters with the extremist organization Maktab al-Khidamat.

But all these insights were drowned in the desire to “cool down Russia.”

Well, the demons of Ukrainian Nazism are not awakened today. And those who have been consciously feeding them all these decades will feel their full rage when these spirits remain hungry. But I’m afraid we won’t be sorry anymore. Neither one nor the other.

https://vz.ru/opinions/2024/6/20/1273234.html

Azov and the rest of the Ukrainian neo-Nazis are just goons

The real demons are those in power in Washington and other Western capitals, and who have concocted this whole scheme in the first place in a bid to ensure their continued dominance of the world

Russia does not plan any large operation to finish the war soon, but it could be also possible (even if unlikely) that Ukraine will collapse before that, or that they will seriously start an insurrection against the Ukrainian government (and maybe large groups of soldier will defect or take arms against their former comrades)

With power issues and winter coming and Zelensky no longer leader on paper, I would say a difficult winter is coming... and as you say a potential power vacuum in the US distracted with other things...

if there were any large identifiable fragments, the Russians would've removed or blown them up the next day. In any case, no pics would show it to be as a recognizable A-50 with 100% certainty, & the Russians could say that they r showing something else, or fake.

Except even blowing things up would be noticed by Americas all seeing eyes in space.

The fact of the matter is that when the truth is not useful the US satellites and radar information is not forthcoming... if they had radar and satellite proof they would be posting it all over the media as evidence of their claims.

I can see two things happening either German will have loads of shells sitting in warehouses for years or the German government ends up reducing the order massively.

Western ammo storage has to be refilled and ammo storage in east europe needs to be replaced with new modern 155mm ammo instead of 122mm and 152mm ammo they used to have, which means buying new HATO artillery too...

It is going to be very profitable...

During this discussion set up by the West in Switzerland, the acting prime minister of the Netherlands wanted to grab headlines: "This meeting sends a very strong message to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and I would like to say this to him: ‘Many at this table have said that Russia should have been here and I completely agree. Today, you should have been here,"

Hahaha... what a dick... they told Russia that they were not welcome and now complain that they didn't go?

Even if he did go I don't doubt the neutral Swiss would have arrested him and sent him to the ICC...

Neutral like they were during WWII when they made artillery shells for Germany... so history repeats and all of Europe makes artillery shells for nazis again.

And a whole bunch of Tochkas, which were being used in the same way. Don't see any of those these days, they've all gone extinct.

He was not saying they didn't get such vehicles, he is saying that the process of detection and allocating a weapon to strike the target and then to launch and deliver an attack on the target wasn't a smooth process back then that could kill targets as they were found.

If Trump gets elected those Patriots wont all be going to Kiev... and the main reason why they wont is because he will say they can't pay for them... the Jews can pay of course and they no doubt will come up with the money if it means they get Patriots... not that they will do a lot of good.

Summary of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the progress of the special military operation (as of June 21, 2024)

From June 15 to 21, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation carried out 14 group strikes with high-precision air and ground-based weapons, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles, during which storage facilities of military-technical property, infrastructure of military airfields, electrical substations that provided the work of enterprises of the military-industrial complex of Ukraine, and places of preparation for the use of unmanned boats were hit. The points of temporary deployment of nationalist formations and foreign mercenaries were also affected.

During the week, units of the North group of forces improved the situation along the front line and defeated the manpower and equipment of two formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a marine brigade, as well as two air defense brigades. In addition, 17 counterattacks by enemy assault groups were repelled. The losses of the Armed Forces amounted to up to 1980 servicemen, four tanks, two armored combat vehicles, including the Stryker armored personnel carrier made in the USA, 20 vehicles, combat vehicles of the HIMARS multiple rocket launchers made in the USA and Grad, 22 field artillery guns, as well as three electronic warfare stations Bukovel-AD.

The units of the Zapad group of forces occupied more advantageous positions and defeated the formations of three mechanized, assault and airmobile brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. During the week, 12 counterattacks by enemy assault groups were repelled. The Ukrainian Armed Forces lost up to 3,330 servicemen, two tanks, 15 armored combat vehicles, 34 vehicles, 25 field artillery guns, including 10 of foreign production. Four Nota electronic warfare stations were also destroyed.

The units of the Southern Group of Troops improved the situation along the front line and defeated the manpower and equipment of three mechanized, motorized infantry and amphibious assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Six counterattacks by enemy assault groups were repelled. The Ukrainian Armed Forces lost up to 4,290 servicemen in this direction, a Leopard tank manufactured by Germany, 19 armored combat vehicles, including four M113 armored personnel carriers manufactured by the United States, 53 vehicles, 47 field artillery guns, as well as two MLRS launchers, including one RAK SA-12 of Croatian production.

The units of the Center group of forces improved the tactical situation during the week, and also defeated the formations of three mechanized and one infantry brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the defense brigade. We repelled 31 enemy counterattacks. During the specified period, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this area amounted to 2,530 military personnel, 13 armored combat vehicles, including six MaxxPro and Humvee made in the USA, 23 vehicles, 53 field artillery guns and two MLRS Grad combat vehicles.

The units of the Vostok group of forces actively occupied more advantageous positions and liberated the settlement of Zagornoye in the Zaporozhye region. They defeated clusters of manpower and equipment of the mechanized and motorized infantry brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as two air defense brigades. The enemy lost up to 970 soldiers, ten armored combat vehicles, 30 vehicles and 18 field artillery pieces, 11 of them foreign-made. In addition, three electronic warfare stations "Bukovel-AD" and "Enclave" were destroyed.

Units of the Dnepr group of forces defeated formations of the infantry and mountain assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as two air defense brigades. The enemy's losses amounted to up to 610 soldiers, 24 vehicles, and 29 field artillery pieces. In addition, the launchers of the HIMARS and MLRS multiple launch rocket systems manufactured in the United States were destroyed.

By means of air defense, the following were destroyed: a long-range guided missile "Neptune-MD", eight guided aircraft bombs Hammer manufactured in France, 55 HIMARS rockets manufactured in the United States, as well as 397 unmanned aerial vehicles.

During the past night alone, the enemy used 117 unmanned aerial vehicles of the aircraft type against civilian targets on the territory of the Russian Federation, 114 of which were shot down.

The forces of the Black Sea Fleet destroyed six Ukrainian unmanned boats in the area of the Crimean Peninsula tonight.

During the week, 37 Ukrainian servicemen surrendered on the line of contact.

In total, since the beginning of the special military operation, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have lost: 613 aircraft, 276 helicopters, 26,188 unmanned aerial vehicles, 531 anti-aircraft missile systems, 16,397 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,346 multiple rocket launchers, 10,706 field artillery and mortars, as well as 22,757 units of special military vehicles.

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12517437@egNews

Russian MoD reports 13,710 Ukrainian casualties over the past 7 days.

flamming_python wrote:Azov and the rest of the Ukrainian neo-Nazis are just goons

The real demons are those in power in Washington and other Western capitals, and who have concocted this whole scheme in the first place in a bid to ensure their continued dominance of the world

If by "those in power" you mean the politicians and career bureaucrats who populate the national security agencies of governments, then you miss the big picture. They maybe evil degenerates and they may even believe that they hold real power, but to paraphrase Colonel Kurtz they are errand boys, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill. The owners of the store are the trillionaires who control the world financial system.

The Russian military is clearing the liberated neighborhoods of Chasov Yar, 06.21.2024.

Advisor to the head of the DPR Kimakovsky: The Russian Armed Forces are clearing the liberated areas of Chasov Yar.

MOSCOW, June 21 – RIA Novosti. The armed forces are clearing the liberated areas of Chasov Yar, advisor to the head of the DPR Igor Kimakovsky said on Channel One.

“In Chasovoy Yar, cleansing of microdistricts that are already occupied by us is underway. The most powerful work of the Aerospace Forces is underway ,” he said.

Chasov Yar has important operational and strategic significance. It is located at a dominant height, opening the way to the largest agglomeration in the DPR under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - Slavyansko-Kramatorskaya, as well as to Konstantinovka.

Advisor to Denis Pushilin clarified that Russian military personnel are being consolidated in previously occupied positions in the Donetsk direction.

“Our success is really very good,” added Kimakovsky.

Shortly before this, on Friday, the 24th separate mechanized brigade of Ukrainian troops admitted that the situation for the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Chasovy Yar was “extremely difficult,” and additional forces were deployed to the city and its environs to strengthen the defence.

As the head of the DPR Denis Pushilin emphasized, the pace of the army’s advance was built taking into account the task set by Vladimir Putin - to preserve personnel.

https://ria.ru/20240621/chasov-yar-1954527664.html

https://regnum.ru/opinion/3854357

https://regnum.ru/opinion/3896913?utm_campaign=regnum&utm_term=top_opinion

https://youtu.be/NF4X1mFEKSQ

Journalist Hersh wrote about secret negotiations between the Russian Federation and the United States on Ukraine, 06.21.2024.

American journalist Seymour Hersh, citing sources, claims that there have been several informal negotiations on concessions between Moscow and the West, and the United States doubts Ukraine’s success on the battlefield. The Pulitzer Prize winner announced this on June 21 in his blog on the Substack platform .

According to him, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s proposals on June 14 to resolve the Ukrainian conflict were made after secret negotiations.

“The official told me that the likelihood of significant success for Ukraine on the battlefield remains low, given Russia’s huge reserves of troops and military equipment,” the material says.

Hersh, citing a source, added that, despite Ukrainian and American reports about the alleged successes of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Kharkov, on June 16, 300 soldiers from one of the most elite units of Ukraine, the 92nd assault brigade, were surrounded and captured by Russian troops.

The journalist mentioned the current US President Joe Biden . According to Hersh, the upcoming elections are causing concern among Democrats who fear his defeat in the debate by former leader of the country Donald Trump. It is noted that if he loses, he may refuse to be nominated for the post of head of state.

“The candidate in this turn of events could be California Gov. Gavin Newsom or Illinois Gov. Jay Pritzker,” the blog states.

Hersh called Biden's current policies a disaster and also noted that he should study Putin's proposals on Ukraine.

Earlier that day, Russian Defense Minister Andrei Belousov noted that the Russian Armed Forces have the initiative along the entire front line in the special operation zone. The head of the defense department added that the army and navy have repeatedly proven during testing times that they are capable of adequately responding to the most serious threats.

The successes of the Russian army and the difficult situation in the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) were also pointed out in the West. In June, British analyst Alexander Mercouris announced the exhaustion and imminent collapse of Ukraine. He noted that the army is extremely dissatisfied with the new recruits. They are not only poorly trained, but also physically unprepared for combat, he added.

The special operation to protect Donbass , the start of which Putin announced on February 24, 2022, continues. The decision was made against the backdrop of an aggravation of the situation in the region due to shelling by the Ukrainian military.

https://iz.ru/1716312/2024-06-21/zhurnalist-khersh-napisal-o-tainykh-peregovorakh-rf-i-ssha-po-ukraine

13,710 Ukrainian casualties over the past 7 days.

Nice daily average.

Hole wrote:

13,710 Ukrainian casualties over the past 7 days.

Nice daily average.

I'm assuming those casualty numbers are KIA + WIA, yes?

Broski wrote:I'm assuming those casualty numbers are KIA + WIA, yes?

Yes Russia tends to count both as casualties

Else the language would be something like x liquidated or destroyed

Second FAB 3000 bombing.

Kiko wrote:

https://t.me/vzglyad_ru/102544

Second FAB 3000 bombing.

Assume this is the same one. Either they are just missing the main building or they are intentionally missing, going for the group of buildings. This is the second time this has happened so some are saying they are on a learning curve with its ballistics,

GarryB wrote:
Even if he did go I don't doubt the neutral Swiss would have arrested him and sent him to the ICC...

I don't get why there is not a stronger response from Russia on this. Basically a law stating that any attempt to detain the head of state of Russia is a decleration of war. And will result in full use of the Russian military against any nation or institution seeking to detain him without specific permission of the Duma.