Russian special military operation in Ukraine #58

GarryB wrote:And China of course

Sujoy wrote:
Unlikely. China is a partner of the US. Publicly they'll say they have nukes pointed at China. In reality they don't.
This is because China is used by the US and EU as a bulwark against both Russia and India. Hence the west regularly supplies China with advanced military technology despite a much publicised arms embargo.

nomadski wrote:Trumpet makes noises , but in reality he is managed by the deep state , just like Bidet .

Sujoy wrote:
Unlikely. China is a partner of the US. Publicly they'll say they have nukes pointed at China. In reality they don't.

This is because China is used by the US and EU as a bulwark against both Russia and India. Hence the west regularly supplies China with advanced military technology despite a much publicised arms embargo.

Arrow wrote:https://overclockers.ru/blog/ProKino/show/165467/MiG-31-na-skorosti-v-3100-km-ch-proletel-nad-dronom-RQ-4B-Global-Hawk-i-vynudil-ego-vernut-sya-na-bazu

Was there an incident with a drone?

Mir wrote:

Sujoy wrote:
Unlikely. China is a partner of the US. Publicly they'll say they have nukes pointed at China. In reality they don't.

This is because China is used by the US and EU as a bulwark against both Russia and India. Hence the west regularly supplies China with advanced military technology despite a much publicised arms embargo.

You seem to be stuck in the early 80's. A lot has changed since then!

Belousov instructed the General Staff to take measures to respond to NATO aircraft flights over the Black Sea
28.06.2024

Russian Defense Minister Andrei Belousov instructed the General Staff to submit proposals for measures to promptly respond to provocations and the increased intensity of flights of US strategic unmanned aerial vehicles over the Black Sea.

The Ministry of Defense indicated that such flights are carried out for reconnaissance and target designation of high-precision weapons supplied to the armed forces of Ukraine by Western states, to strike targets on Russian territory, including civilians and crowded places.

"This indicates the increasing involvement of the United States and NATO countries in the conflict in Ukraine on the side of the Kyiv regime. Such flights greatly increase the likelihood of incidents in the airspace with aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces, which increases the risk of direct confrontation between the alliance and the Russian Federation. NATO countries will bear responsibility for this," the Defense Ministry said.

Thus, on June 27, the RC-135W strategic electronic reconnaissance aircraft of the British Air Force, after three hours of flight in the airspace of Romania and over the Black Sea, was, for a number of possible reasons, which could have been “forceful action” by Su-30SM1 or Su-35S fighters of the Russian Aerospace Forces, or capture by the Irbis-E radar for automatic tracking.forced to suddenly interruptreconnaissance flight and return to the home airfield.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Any truth to the claim that DPRK is sending dngineering troops to Ukraine? Military Summary Channel claims so.

GarryB wrote:

It would be like a white Canadian, Australian or American disowning their European heritage and calling themselves an ethnic Canuck, Aussie or Texan.

But Canadians and Aussies and Americans don't call themselves European... They certainly don't call themselves Eskimo, American Indian, or Aboriginal.

kvs wrote:

China clearly had ans still has a faction that is pro-west.   That is why the covid lab was operating with NIH money there.   It is also clear from behaviour of Chinese companies that
they are not part of a big anti-western band.   Russia has this sort of complexity as well.   Countries are not people and cannot be treated as such.

ucmvulcan wrote:

If he is naive enough to think he can talk with NATO and its Ukrainian puppets, then he is indeed an idiot.  My fear is you are right.  My hope is that Putin retaliates in times and manners of his choosing.  

Arrow wrote:

hinese billionaires don't have much to say about Chinese politics. Just like Russian millionaires loved the West. This did not change the fact that Russia is currently at war with the WHOLE NATO and China is on Russia's side regardless of what Chinese billionaires do in NY etc.

Kiko wrote:Russia warns that Ukraine's attack in Sevastopol will not go unanswered, 06.27.2024.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) — The Ukrainian attack on the Russian city of Sevastopol will not be left without Moscow's response, the West must feel the risks of such actions, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said.

"The tragedy that happened in Sevastopol, of course, will not remain without our response. (...) Many in the West now think about certain scenarios that are acceptable; they must feel the extreme risks associated with such actions," Ryabkov said in an interview with the Rossiya 1 channel.

The deputy foreign minister recalled that the American ambassador to Moscow was summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry on June 24 because Moscow has information "indicating the direct participation of the United States in the preparation and conduct of this terrorist act."

"The US side repeated the hackneyed arguments, many times already used and subject to recycling, that the US does not see any of this as far as its own participation is concerned," Ryabkov said.

On June 24, Ukrainian troops attacked the city of Sevastopol, on the Black Sea coast, with five American Atacms missiles with cluster munitions. The Russian air defense intercepted four of the missiles, while the fifth detonated in the air on the beach, causing four deaths, including a two-year-old girl and a nine-year-old girl with a total of 153 injured, of which 27 are also minors.

The UN Secretary General refrained from condemning the deadly Ukrainian attack. His deputy spokesman, Farhan Haq, limited himself to saying that the casualties among the civilian population during the hostilities were "unacceptable."

The Russian ambassador to the UN, Vasily Nebenzia, dismissed the silence of the international body in the face of the Ukrainian attack in Sevastopol as a "double standard" and emphasized that the United States was involved in the bombing of the city.

A Pentagon spokesman claimed that the Ukrainian military had no intention of attacking civilians in the Russian city of Sevastopol.

Russian Defense Minister Andrei Belousov warned his American counterpart Lloyd Austin in a telephone conversation on June 25 of the escalation of the conflict due to the continuous shipments of American weapons to Ukraine.

Security of Russia

The deputy minister confirmed that his country was ready to do everything possible to ensure its security in the face of provocations from the West.

"The Western provocateurs (...) they won't be able to hide in their bunkers if it comes to a really serious crash. They should understand that Russia is determined to do everything possible to guarantee its security and protect itself as a country, as a state," he said.

Ryabkov insisted that Russia has always warned that if it comes to the use of nuclear weapons on the battlefield, it will be difficult to control the following scenarios and escalation. The deputy minister called on the world to do everything possible to prevent a nuclear war in which there will be no winners. On the other hand, Ryabkov stressed that his country may possibly modify its nuclear doctrine.

"The time will come when adjustments could be made to the 'Fundamentals of geopolitics [in the matter of nuclear deterrence]' taking into account the experience gained during the special military operation, when the classic reading of nuclear deterrence did not work properly," he said.

Russian forces launched the special military operation in February 2022 to stop Ukrainian bombings against the civilian populations of Donetsk and Luhansk, two territories that gained independence from Ukraine in 2014 and were incorporated into Russia in September 2022.

The objectives of the military campaign are to stop the genocide of the peoples of Donetsk and Luhansk committed by the Ukrainian government since 2014 and to tackle the national security risks posed by NATO's advance to the east.

Ukraine is militarily supported by NATO, the war bloc led by the United States, a country that has one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world.

Moscow and Washington

The channels of communication between Russia and the United States remain open, the deputy minister said.
"The channels of communication with Washington are not closed, a very important telephone conversation was held the day before yesterday between Russian Defense Minister Andrei Belousov and his American counterpart, there are also contacts at other levels, through presidential administrations, intelligence services, diplomatic departments," he stressed.

According to the Russian diplomat, these contacts are of a regular nature. In addition, he stressed the importance of ties at the level of ambassadors and embassies.

Russia, the Russian deputy foreign minister said, is not going to suspend these contacts in addition to the "diplomatic efforts" that are also, in his opinion, "an important part of common work, especially during the current crisis."

Russia expands contacts with its partners in the field of military-technical cooperation

Moscow has encouraged negotiations with its partners on military-technical cooperation, Ryabkov added.

"The issue of Russia's military and military-technical cooperation with allies, with strategic partners has recently expanded, the geography of such consultations has also expanded," he stressed.

The expansion of contacts is due to the need to confront the medium-range missile systems that the United States deploys in various distant war scenarios, the diplomat explained.

Ryabkov pointed out that missiles of this type were previously prohibited by the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF Treaty) signed in 1987 by the United States and the then Soviet Union, but in 2019 Washington broke it after deploying land-based missile systems abroad.

The deputy minister refrained from naming the countries with which Russia cooperates in this area and proposed to journalists to "see the map" to find out who they are.

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https://latamnews.lat/20240627/rusia-advierte-que-el-ataque-de-ucrania-en-sebastopol-no-quedara-sin-respuesta-1155749132.html