Russian special military operation in Ukraine #59

Inbred Finnish retards think they will be getting welfare from NATzO.

JohninMK wrote:

Honstly this is incredibly depressing. So many dying over a tiny, pathetic amount of territory. All that blood and treasure being spilled for so little.

Firebird wrote:

mnztr wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

Honstly this is incredibly depressing. So many dying over a tiny, pathetic amount of territory. All that blood and treasure being spilled for so little.

IN a naval battle u sink ships. U don't "control areas".
Exactly the same here.
Banderaland's killed/wounded VASTLY outweigh Russia's.
THAT is the objective. The slow crush, and then the land will follow.
Perfect for Russia in strategic, intel and logistical terms, according to the tactical approach chosen by the Ru generals.

As Weeb Union says today, once Donbass is taken, there are virtually no fortifications to Kiev. Good comments by him BTW on this.

When you sink a ship or 2 they are not easy to replace. So it massively decreases the abilty of the enemy to control that area of sea. When you kill 2000 men, they grab another 2000 hapless souls of the street, and bring them to the next trench line. With an endless stream of weapons and ammo from NATO there is no end in sight here and even though there are signs of weakness, I see few signs of collapse.

Unless you are living with your head in the sand, the idea Ukraine has no "fortifications" after Done is pretty delusional, they are using small towns and cities and pretty much everything, so yeah there are PLENTY of "fortifications" left for Ukraine and more than enough manpower. Enough to delay any russian advance for years and years

I have been hearing the same dribble from day one on this forum "ukraine outta men" "they just need to get past this town" "Ukraine has no more forts left", "NATO Going to stop supplying them"

How long have you all been stuck in Chasiv Yar? Months at this point, Do you not realize if it takes you six months to clear one small sized city like that your operation is doomed to fail, the Russians time wise cannot afford to be spending the amount of time they are clearing some small ass city, then spend another six doing it again and again and again and again.


Your Khakrov adventure? got stopped real quick you failed to establish your buffer zone.

Literally the only criticism here is that Russia is winning too slowly...

Stupid niggers. You're supposed to be pushing in the opposite direction to win and losing less men and material, not more.

lyle6 wrote:Literally the only criticism here is that Russia is winning too slowly...

Stupid niggers.  You're supposed to be pushing in the opposite direction to win and losing less men and material, not more.

Bruh wtf did you just call people niggers?. Well garry whats your response to this.

year winning to slow can and will cost them Odessa for example, but hey when they fail to take that city. I will be here to say "told you so"

getting things done in adequate time is part of war, take to long you loose your opportunities.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Bruh wtf did you just call people niggers?. Well garry whats your response to this.

year winning to slow can and will cost them Odessa for example, but hey when they fail to take that city. I will be here to say "told you so"

getting things done in adequate time is part of war, take to long you loose your opportunities.

You Americans facilitated, funded, provoked the slaughter of so much, yet a stupid word offends your sensibilities...

**** you nigger. My people didn't genocide their share of darkies for me not to earn the right to utter that word.

Even better, mine didn't interbreed with them. So shut the **** up nigger.

lyle6 wrote:Literally the only criticism here is that Russia is winning too slowly...

Stupid niggers.  You're supposed to be pushing in the opposite direction to win and losing less men and material, not more.

Winning too slowly has massive costs and consequences attached to it. New weapons, NATO can increase production, more soldiers can be trained, political opposition can build, other nations can be turned against Russia (like Armenia or Georgia for example) So to think Russia has ALL the time in the world and only 1000 Russians a week are injured 200 KIA is no problem, frankly is idiotic and sad.

mnztr wrote:Winning too slowly has massive costs and consequences attached to it. New weapons, NATO can increase production, more soldiers can be trained, political opposition can build, other nations  can be turned against Russia (like Armenia or Georgia for example) So to think Russia has ALL the time in the world and only 1000 Russians a week are injured 200   KIA is no problem, frankly is idiotic and sad.

NATO does not have as much skin in the game as Russia. For them this is not existential while for Russia it is. Russia is also fighting much closer to their production base and has better lines of communication to transport that supply.

How many new weapon systems of significance has NATO developed since the conflict started? Zero. How many have they perfected? Zero again.
Since the conflict started Russia deployed the Agriculture remote mining system. Kinzhal and Zircon were tested in combat use. Heck the UMPK was developed in the middle of the war and put into service. Russian long range fires also became more accurate and jam resistant.

Sure Ukraine started strapping RPG-7s to FPV drones and using them. The Chinese did most of the work since they are the ones who actually make all the components for the FPV drones. There are also the naval drones, but those would not be as much of a threat in the open sea. So they are just one trick ponies.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:Unless you are living with your head in the sand, the idea Ukraine has no "fortifications" after Done is pretty delusional, they are using small towns and cities and pretty much everything, so yeah there are PLENTY of "fortifications" left for Ukraine and more than enough manpower. Enough to delay any russian advance for years and years

Were those fortifications made by the same contractors which were supposed to have made the ones in Kharkov? They had two years since the war started and they did nothing. Compare that with the Surovikin line built over months.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:I have been hearing the same dribble from day one on this forum "ukraine outta men" "they just need to get past this town" "Ukraine has no more forts left", "NATO Going to stop supplying them"

If you looked at a map of the Soviet Union in 1942 you would also think the war with the Nazis was a stalemate.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:How long have you all been stuck in Chasiv Yar? Months at this point, Do you not realize if it takes you six months to clear one small sized city like that your operation is doomed to fail, the Russians time wise cannot afford to be spending the amount of time they are clearing some small ass city, then spend another six doing it again and again and again and again.

Your Khakrov adventure? got stopped real quick you failed to establish your buffer zone.

Most of the troops aren't in Kharkov. That is just another axis of movement to force the Ukrainians to move their best troops there to defend so they do not lose their second largest city. In the meantime the Russians continue pushing in Donbas.

lyle6 wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Bruh wtf did you just call people niggers?. Well garry whats your response to this.

year winning to slow can and will cost them Odessa for example, but hey when they fail to take that city. I will be here to say "told you so"

getting things done in adequate time is part of war, take to long you loose your opportunities.

You Americans facilitated, funded, provoked the slaughter of so much, yet a stupid word offends your sensibilities...

**** you nigger. My people didn't genocide their share of darkies for me not to earn the right to utter that word.

Even better, mine didn't interbreed with them. So shut the **** up nigger.

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SeigSoloyvov wrote:Unless you are living with your head in the sand, the idea Ukraine has no "fortifications" after Done is pretty delusional, they are using small towns and cities and pretty much everything, so yeah there are PLENTY of "fortifications" left for Ukraine and more than enough manpower. Enough to delay any russian advance for years and years

I have been hearing the same dribble from day one on this forum "ukraine outta men" "they just need to get past this town" "Ukraine has no more forts left", "NATO Going to stop supplying them"

How long have you all been stuck in Chasiv Yar? Months at this point, Do you not realize if it takes you six months to clear one small sized city like that your operation is doomed to fail, the Russians time wise cannot afford to be spending the amount of time they are clearing some small ass city, then spend another six doing it again and again and again and again.


Your Khakrov adventure? got stopped real quick you failed to establish your buffer zone.

You and your? Uh whose side are you on?

@Lancelot, great post, but one thing. If I had looked at the GPW in 1942 for most of the year, after the Moscow counteroffensive reached its logistics limits and stalled out in early spring and before Uranus routed NATO 2.0 (Napoleon was NATO 1.0) at the Volga in the late fall, I would have said Soviet forces were suffering catastrophic defeats that were only surpassed by the disasters of 1941. The Russian war in Ukraine? Its a far different war. By and large, I think Russia is achieving its objectives. Have their been mistakes on the tactical and strategic levels? Yes. The first year of the war featured many blunders especially in the Kiev direction.* Russia continues to make foolish decisions at its airfields, it needs to erect shelters and practice deception at its airfields, and I am less than impressed by the Black Sea Fleet's air defense network and anti drone defenses (of course I also argue that these are mainly propaganda defeats because really what does sinking a ship in its 40s and due for overhauling or scrapping do to change the situation at the front? So again, Russia made many errors, large and small in the first year of the war, but since fall of 2022 they decided to make this war into one of positional warfare to draw Ukrainian forces out and destroy them. Why did they make a drive in the Sumy and Kharkov directions? Simple, it was to get the Ukrainians out of their trenches so they could be killed in open country. Since this is the type of war Russia wants to fight, its not a stalemate.

thegopnik wrote:

Well, investment property owners can tell their tenants what they can and cannot do on their property. Still this is quite vile.

When you sink a ship or 2 they are not easy to replace. So it massively decreases the abilty of the enemy to control that area of sea. When you kill 2000 men, they grab another 2000 hapless souls of the street, and bring them to the next trench line. With an endless stream of weapons and ammo from NATO there is no end in sight here and even though there are signs of weakness, I see few signs of collapse.

For as long as that supply of cannon fodder is happy to be cannon fodder then the problem will remain.

Kiev is solving future problems for Russia by sending troops to Russias shooting range.

When the cannon fodder realises what is happening it is up to them to stop this conflict... or they can march to the front line and die like the guys before them.

Enough to delay any russian advance for years and years

But Trump and Bankruptcy is not years away...

I have been hearing the same dribble from day one on this forum "ukraine outta men" "they just need to get past this town" "Ukraine has no more forts left", "NATO Going to stop supplying them"

And what have we heard from you... this is a new Afghanistan... Russia will be fighting for the next 20 years and is going to get destroyed economically...

Months at this point, Do you not realize if it takes you six months to clear one small sized city like that your operation is doomed to fail, the Russians time wise cannot afford to be spending the amount of time they are clearing some small ass city, then spend another six doing it again and again and again and again.

This winter is going to help sort things out... when it gets very cold and there is no electricity or gas then things are going to become rather difficult rather quickly.

Right now Ukraine imports electricity, but when Europe needs it too...

The peace conference in Switzerland was supposed to rally the rest of the world around Kiev against Russia... it clearly had the opposite effect.

The longer this goes, the worse it will be for Kiev... it is as simple as that.

Bruh wtf did you just call people niggers?. Well garry whats your response to this.

I am an expert in western protocol and I know for a fact that it is perfectly acceptable for people of colour to use the N word any way they please.

Can you tell me if Lyle6 is coloured or white. He is from the Philippines BTW.

year winning to slow can and will cost them Odessa for example, but hey when they fail to take that city. I will be here to say "told you so"

When the Ukrainian army collapses they will have to occupy the whole territory just to keep the peace... and I suspect in the background they are working to find non nazi Ukrainians who want this war to end to help them behind the lines. We have already heard about fires and bombs and certain people getting murdered... it can be a reverse Maidan where instead of pro Russians and Russian speakers getting murdered it will be Ukrainian speakers and Ukrainian supporters that get rounded up and burned to death... the west was fine with that sort of thing the last decade or so so I suspect they wont be surprised if it starts happening again...

Winning too slowly has massive costs and consequences attached to it.

Trying to rush it or making agreements that are too beneficial to Kiev would be rather worse I would think.

New weapons, NATO can increase production, more soldiers can be trained, political opposition can build, other nations can be turned against Russia (like Armenia or Georgia for example)

The west is an enemy... practise against HATO weapons is probably a good thing. They are sending half trained soldiers to the front line now and they are losing them at a rate that they can't take longer to train some so they get to the front line with some useful skills. Armenia and Georgia were clearly not allies to begin with... letting them show their colours is a good thing so Russia does not need to waste time helping them grow and develop. Georgia seems to want to have better relations with Russia but seems dead set on being Americas bitch. They can't be both. America wont allow it. They will have to choose and if they try to have both they will end up like Yanukovich...

So to think Russia has ALL the time in the world and only 1000 Russians a week are injured 200 KIA is no problem, frankly is idiotic and sad.

One Russian soldier killed or injured is a terrible thing but there is no alternative. Massing up an enormous force will damage the Russian economy... which is what the west wants by the way... and the number dead on both sides will massively increase and taking more territory is not going to win this conflict either... even with Russian forces on the gates of Kiev Zelensky will demand 1991 borders and the Crimea back and he will be asking for nukes.

You aren't an expert on western protocols, you clearly don't know much about how stuff works here

Only if the guy's are friends is it okay, and I mean decent friends but if a black guy calls another black guy they aren't close to a nigger 100 percent of the time it will end up in a fight and 80 percent of the time one of them will be in a body bag.

If your going to give him a pass then I hope you Don't ban others for such similar remarks because that would be hypocritical of you

A nazi/nazi supporter claimed some people a racist and some people a hypocrite.
HAHAHAHA....

xeno wrote:A nazi/nazi supporter claimed some people a racist and some people a hypocrite.
HAHAHAHA....

Name one Way I have supported Nazi you delusional twit.

I have called Ukraine out and the Russians and I have pointed out how Russian strategy here isn't good for the long term.

If that's support Nazi then you just a tier S imbecile.

Again fourm is filled with boot lickers who are delusional and cannot handle any criticism when it's deserved.

You aren't an expert on western protocols, you clearly don't know much about how stuff works here

Only if the guy's are friends is it okay, and I mean decent friends but if a black guy calls another black guy they aren't close to a nigger 100 percent of the time it will end up in a fight and 80 percent of the time one of them will be in a body bag.

If your going to give him a pass then I hope you Don't ban others for such similar remarks because that would be hypocritical of you

Generally such matters are not discussed in an open forum and are moved to a private message situation so everyone can be honest.

Lyle might be angry that the US government which you repeatedly defend have created this entire situation and not by accident... the goal was always to start a war in Europe and the intention was to do serious damage to the Russian economy with the hopes of splitting the country up like they did in Yugoslavia and to Serbia.

In such a situation I can understand the use of strong language on his part.

Now that you have complained about it I am obliged to deal with it, but are you sure you want to do it on an open forum?

Up to you.

Name one Way I have supported Nazi you delusional twit.

Dude, you are pro US... which side do you think they are fighting on?

Kiev is openly nazi and the US is openly ignoring that... it is the nazis who are telling Z he can't talk to Putin.

BTW for those who think Russia will ignore Kiev basing F-16s in HATO countries to attack Russian targets in the Ukraine or Russia check this video out...