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    Post  PhSt Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:43 am

    Nothing "Psycho" in calling for the Total Destruction of the enemy. All the goodwill gestures by Russia have been seen as weakness by NATO, Russia needs to DESTROY Everything in Ukraine to make an example to the world of NATO. attack

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:57 am

    Broski wrote:Ahh I see, the herpes of russiadefence.net have returned to to remind us how Russia is losing again, guys! It's all over, Nazis are occupying approximately 150 sq km of Kursk, a jaw dropping.... 0.5% of the territory. Zero Point Fucking Five Percent!

    They are not "occupying" anything. Only sit at a few locations, waiting till Russkie will fry them crispy brown.
    A true peremoga it is,

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:12 am

    The comparison with the Battle of the Bulge above does resonate, albeit without the initial protection of the weather back then.

    It looks like this time the Ukrainians using a lot of their American Bradleys and Strykers plus a lot of their mobile AD, no info I have seen on the tanks they are using. We do not know their objectives, it does look well resourced and planned but I doubt it is intended to be a doomed PR op.

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    🇺🇦🇷🇺 Kursk Front: Since the morning, the AFU has continued its offensive to the north along the Sudzha-Korenevo highway.

    There is no movement towards Sudzha yet.

    They managed to take control of several settlements. The total advance in just over a day has amounted to approximately 15 km.

    At the same time, the AFU continues to introduce more and more battalions into the breakthrough. The 22nd Mechanized Brigade of the Ukrainian army has already completely entered Russian territory.

    It is rumored that the 72nd, 80th, and 82nd brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are at the "low" start here. For those who don't know, this is the SUPER ELITE. Which, following the 22nd Separate Mechanized Brigade, which apparently has the task of breaking through our defense and securing the flanks of this breakthrough, will probably also be introduced into the breakthrough today or tomorrow.

    -> Ukrainian and Russian commentators do not understand why the resources are used here, while the Donetsk front collapses. But likely it’s an all in move, to seize the Kursk power plant, which can only be used as leverage for blackmail or negotiations.

    Let’s see, but Ukraine puts their best units down for this.

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    Update from Kursk Oblast:

    Ukrainian forces likely continue to make significant progress in Kursk Oblast, advancing as far as 11km into Russian territory. The main axis of attack is in the direction of the town of Korenevo, where - according to Russian sources - Ukrainian forces have seized 10 villages. There are also reports that Ukraine entered the village of Lebedevka, but do not control it yet.

    One of the reasons for the quick Ukrainian advance is the fact that they are advancing downhill from their high-ground positions in Sumy Oblast. This is also why most, if not all of their attack vectors are heading north/northwest/northeast. There are significant heights further north, so I expect the Ukrainian advance will slow significantly in the coming days.

    Another reason is likely the lack of Russian air support here. Ukrainian forces reportedly brought in lots of air defence with them, which prevents Russian aircraft from flying close to them, or forces them to fly too low for them to be very useful.

    Meanwhile on the Sudzha axis, Ukrainian forces reportedly encircled Russians in the village of Oleshnyi, with no escape routes out of the village. Ukraine is also advancing along the highway to the western suburbs of Sudzha. As for Sudzha itself, the town is reportedly being prepared for battle.

    Russian sources are reporting that a counterattack is being prepared.

    Overall, this incursion appears to be larger than anyone - including me - expected it to be.

    Colours for the map:
    Blue = Confirmed Ukrainian control.
    Green = Likely Ukrainian control.

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    Post  Arrow Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:15 am

    Taking over the Kursk nuclear power plant is complete SF. Although perhaps the leaders in the West and Ukraine already have such delusions in their heads.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:28 am

    Stupid move by Ukraine, Even if they manage to punch deeper into Russia it will tie down many of their forces to hold these gains.

    All this will do is

    1. Force the Russians to deploy more troops, granted. They should have reaerve prepared for instances like these, regardless it will be. A slap in the face that might force Putin to mobilize more troops which is bad for Ukraine.

    2. It will over all weaken their defenses,

    I don't know who ik Ukraine thought this was. A great idea, in order for a move like this too be worth it Ukraine would need to seize and hold major strategic Targets, not some small villages and there isn't really any major targets there for them to seize

    The ukies will enjoy early gains depending on how much men they commit but soon this will cost them heavily.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:32 am

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    The NASA fire data map provides an easy to see picture of where the fighting has taken place in the Kursk region of Russia. It clearly shows that Ukraine is targeting all the way to Sudzha.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:36 am

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    A short while ago, several massive explosions rocked Kurchatov in Russia’s Kursk region, close to the town’s nuclear power plant. This town is 35 miles (56km) from the fighting ongoing in Sudzha as Ukraine assaults several Russian towns along the border. The Kurchatov NPP has

    Update: Russian sources are now stating that Ukrainian troops have advanced up to 15 km with a front spanning 10-11 km. As of this evening, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have secured positions in 11 settlements, including Lyubimovka, Obukhovka, Pokrovskoe, Zeleny Shlyakh, Tolstoy Lug, Nizhny Klin, Nikolayevo-Daryina, Darino, Sverdlikovo, and Lebedevka. They have also taken control of the Sudzha Natural Gas Pump Station on the border with Ukraine. 

    Russian troops attempted to launch counterattacks throughout the night, but their aviators assets are struggling to support due to Ukrainian air defense in Sumy. The situation is still fluid but Ukraine appears to plan on holding this terrain. The Russians are now referring to this as an “invasion”.


    President Vladimir Putin will convene the Russian Security Council at 13:00 Moscow time to address the Ukrainian invasion of the Kursk region.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:38 am

    This video gives us a good idea as to the terrain the fighting is taking place in. Complex and excellent if you are the attacker and it is pretty much undefended, it will not be easy to push the UA back but is is absorbing some good UA units that could be more useful elsewhere. 

    No doubt unintended but it will be giving the Russians an excellent lesson in how to defend against and then attack an army with the very latest NATO AD technology.



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    Post  Kiko Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:43 am

    A desperate attack on the Kursk region means the end of Ukraine, by Evgeniy Balakin for RiaNovosti. 08.07.2024.

    Ukraine is attacking the Kursk region. For the first time since the war began. A day ago, on August 6, at about eight in the morning, units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces attempted to break through in the area of ​​Nikolayevo-Daryino and Oleshnya.

    According to preliminary data, up to 300 people, 11 tanks and 20 combat vehicles participated in the attack. Another group of about 100 people tried to break through in the Sudzhansky district. They are being destroyed by the troops covering the state border together with the FSB border guards. The Aerospace Forces are providing support, burning out equipment throughout the territory of Ukraine. The battle is continuing right now.

    In the third (or rather, 11th) year of the war, no one will be surprised by the fact that Ukrainian troops attacked peaceful cities. However, a crime that has become a habit is still a crime. And the head of the Investigative Committee, Alexander Bastrykin , is right when he ordered a criminal case to be opened in a matter of hours. A paramedic and an ambulance driver have already died, six children, not counting adults, have been injured - and for their sake, after our victory, justice must be done. For their sake - too.

    This is not the first time that Ukraine has attacked Russian lands that everyone, even its enemies, has recognized as its legitimate fiefdom. This is not the first time that it has violated international law. But the Kursk region, which borders Sumy, has never been attacked before. And now the matter is not limited to sabotage and reconnaissance group raids and the accompanying PR campaigns of terrorist Kirill Budanov. We are talking about an attempt at a full-fledged invasion. This attempt, as daring as it is desperate, can be viewed from three points of view: military, political and geopolitical.

    Having assessed the balance of forces in the theatre of military operations, we see that Russia is methodically advancing in the Donbas agglomeration (in fact, the entire Donbas is a large industrial zone, where one settlement passes into another). Several settlements are recaptured every week. There are battles for Toretsk (Dzerzhinsk), an encirclement is being formed near New York, over which the Russian flag has already been raised, and the squeezing of the enemy out of Krasnogorovka is coming to an end. The advance towards Grodovka with the prospect of reaching Mirnograd and Pokrovsk is significant, the loss of which will be one of the most painful blows for Ukraine in this direction. The enemy's forces are also being exhausted in the Kherson, Zaporizhzhya and Kharkov directions, which forces it to transfer units from one area to another, patching up holes in the daily thinning front line.

    Time is working against the enemy - and it is in these conditions that it needs daring sorties capable of regaining the lost initiative. This explains the military expediency of opening another - Sumy - front with a lack of human resources. To enhance the effect, Ukrainian troops simultaneously attempted to land troops on the Tendrivska Spit in the Kherson region - but it failed, three of the 12 boats involved were sunk, the rest retreated. The attack on the Kursk region will also end in failure. Russia will be forced to increase its efforts in this direction, and Ukraine will have to maintain another front, without having the strength for it. As a result, our advance in the Donbass will only accelerate.

    From a political point of view, the attack on the previously peaceful Kursk region is due to the imminent change of master in the White House (since the conflict in Ukraine is part of a global confrontation, where the role of the United States is one of the main ones). Probably, the top of the Kyiv regime wants to approach the start of "peace talks" (the idea of ​​which is vigorously promoted by Trump) in a strong position, so there is a desire to demonstrate strength and occupy as much land as possible (or rather, at least something). But from the side of Zelensky personally, the "Netanyahu scenario" is also possible - to intensify the conflict in order to nullify all the "peace initiatives" of the Americans, forcing them to continue supporting Ukraine. If the Israeli Prime Minister can pull off such a trick with Biden, how is Zelensky worse? But we play this game better - and the inevitable series of defeats of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Donbass this summer will devalue all the political points of the Kyiv regime, regardless of its readiness for negotiations.

    Finally, the presence of a nuclear power plant in the city of Kurchatov in the Kursk region is geopolitically important. It is close enough to the border that the Kiev regime could become obsessed with capturing it. Given the truly maniacal persistence with which Ukraine has tried (and continues to try) to seize the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant , this suggestion does not seem crazy at all. And if we regard the military actions in the Kursk region as a diversionary strike before the impending attack in Zaporizhzhya , then a strategy emerges that justifies (in the eyes of the Kiev regime) sending an already insufficient manpower to certain death. If successful, Kiev will be able to blackmail all of Europe with a nuclear threat - a crude but effective geopolitical move that, fortunately, the Russian soldier will not allow to be made.

    Thus, the daring and desperate actions taken by Kiev in three directions at once - war, politics and geopolitics - are not without meaning, but they reveal the insignificant strategic position it finds itself in. The extended front, the constant need for manpower, the dependence of the internal situation on favors in foreign policy - all this forces it to commit crimes, the price for which will be the Ukrainian statehood itself.

    https://ria.ru/20240807/kursk-1964554177.html

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:44 am

    🇷🇺🇺🇦❗The Ukrainian Armed Forces lost up to 260 militants and 50 armored vehicles, including 7 tanks, in the Kursk border area yesterday, the Russian Defense Ministry added

    The operation to destroy Ukrainian formations continues.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:52 am

    Perhaps this will force Putin to declare "war" if war is declared that would give the Russian military leadership the ability to call additional troops without Putins permission, as since he hasn't declared war, he can control that kinda stuff, but when it's official wartime he cannot

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:09 pm

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:26 pm

    d_taddei2 wrote:Is there any maps showing Russian progress for the last three months until now would be interesting to see.
    Sorry for the delayed response.

    Maps for April/Aug are at start of this article.

    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/08/ukraine-sitrep-catch-up-.html#more

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    Post  Arkanghelsk Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:46 pm

    Ukrainians have been pushed out of Suzhda and focus on north

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    Post  GarryB Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:44 pm

    Sounds like a desperate attempt to have what the west would call leverage at the peace negotiations, but in reality will probably only mean for the Russians that there is no peacefully living with the Kiev regime and that really they need to start working on that 300km buffer zone between Russian territory old and new and anywhere that Kievs forces are allowed to exist.

    Perhaps it is confirmation that Kievs forces can't be trusted to exist.

    Another 3 years should do it.

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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:57 pm

    GarryB wrote:Sounds like a desperate attempt to have what the west would call leverage at the peace negotiations

    A desperate attempt to attract the attention of Western investors to ask for more fund by attempt to "prove" that Western investment in Maidan can still be profitable.

    Typical behavior of puppet regimes installed by USA, whose living means have to depend on "good will" of the puppet-master.

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    Post  Scorpius Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:39 pm

    Currently, it is already known about several dozen civilians injured or killed as a result of deliberate attacks by Khokhlonazis in the Kursk region.
    The situation looks like the Kiev Nazis are desperately begging for a nuclear strike on their territory.

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:47 pm

    Scorpius wrote:Currently, it is already known about several dozen civilians injured or killed as a result of deliberate attacks by Khokhlonazis in the Kursk region.
    The situation looks like the Kiev Nazis are desperately begging for a nuclear strike on their territory.

    Oblige them then

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    Post  caveat emptor Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:56 pm

    Scorpius wrote:Currently, it is already known about several dozen civilians injured or killed as a result of deliberate attacks by Khokhlonazis in the Kursk region.
    The situation looks like the Kiev Nazis are desperately begging for a nuclear strike on their territory.

    How's that different from what is already happening in 4 new oblasts and Belgorod?
    I listen to Putin's statement on RIA novosti site. He talks about some "mass provocation" and asks from international community to condemn the attack.
    It is a fucking war. Whether you call it SVO or a war, it doesn't change that fact.
    This incursion mirrors what Russia did in Kharkov, by its nature. Same style of action with few brigades of manpower. They found a soft spot and are trying to exploit it.

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    Post  lancelot Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:17 pm

    Scorpius wrote:The situation looks like the Kiev Nazis are desperately begging for a nuclear strike on their territory.
    Like I said before just bomb the turbine halls in the Ukrainian nuclear power plants and send them back to the Dark Ages.

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:25 pm

    Just to wind up a couple of you here Putin's 13.00 meeting took place without a uniform in sight.

    Statements by Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with members of the government

    About the situation in the Kursk region:

    ▫The Kyiv regime carried out another major provocation, carrying out indiscriminate shelling of civilian infrastructure, including the use of rocket weapons.

    ▫After a conversation with the acting governor of the Kursk region, instructions were given to numerous civil agencies to provide the necessary assistance to the residents of the region. The Government of the Russian Federation should also urgently address this issue.

    ▫Putin stated that today he will hold a meeting with the heads of law enforcement agencies on the operational situation in the border areas of Kursk Oblast.
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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:31 pm

    Scorpius wrote:Currently, it is already known about several dozen civilians injured or killed as a result of deliberate attacks by Khokhlonazis in the Kursk region.
    The situation looks like the Kiev Nazis are desperately begging for a nuclear strike on their territory.

    They dare because they know Russia never gives a tit for a tat. There is zero fear for Russia in Kiev. Putin is to blame.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:33 pm

    caveat emptor wrote:
    I listen to Putin's statement on RIA novosti site. He talks about some "mass provocation" and asks from international community to condemn the attack.

    Putin is a hopeless idiot. Just a hopeless idiot.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Wed Aug 07, 2024 5:41 pm

    Asking condemnation from the international community is idiotic in so may ways!

    1. Russia and Ukraine are at war. Most people here (including myself) support Russia but we all have to admit that Russia is trying to seize territory from Ukraine by military force. I don't condemn this because I despise the current Kiev regime. But why the hell should anyone condemn Ukraine either for making a military incursion in Russian territory? Why should Ukraine limit itself to acting only within its own territory if it has the means to bring the war to Russian territory? This is war.

    2. By "international community" Putin probably meant the West? Why would the West "condemn" Ukraine and why would Putin expect anything like this? Has he not learned anything?

    3. Statements like this make Putin and Russia look pathetic and weak. Instead of comments like this they should make Ukraine pay with concrete actions.

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    Post  Hole Wed Aug 07, 2024 6:10 pm

     it does look well resourced and planned but I doubt it is intended to be a doomed PR op.
    It ist a PR stunt. Well resourced? With men and stuff that they took from all over the frontlines, which are collapsing in many areas.

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