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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:41 am

    ALAMO wrote:Counting public domain obituaries has just hit 517 000 ukrowehrmacht KIA.
    Considering that those are clearly not all, and tens of thousand of MIAs - the overall tool is clearly in a 700k range.

    which is about right. Yeah, Biden and Boorish could have stopped this with a few phone calls and a couple treaties in 2021 and early 2022 and they could have so easily ended this in March and April 2022 with a peace deal that just needed to be signed. Instead we are now up to about 70 to 80 thousand Russian dead, probably another 140 to 160 thousand wounded and now we are up to 700,000 Ukrainian dead and 1.4 million wounded. Again, Russia's losses are a tragedy. Ukraine's are a demographic and economic catastrophe.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:50 am

    They have crossed the Rubicon, which is crystal clear.
    Mykola Azarov called that in one of the interviews, he gave a month or so ago.
    According to him, there are 18 mln people left there.
    I will add again that the structure of the people who left is defective. It is old and women heavy society, with a very low fertility rate and a lack of men that will hit it even further.
    They will cease to exist as a nation in two generations at most.
    A marriage with the west depopulated once a close to 53 mln country, that operated multiple nuclear power plants and energy generation/transfer infrastructure twice of their needs. That had a young, well educated and healthy population and an industry capable of building space crafts and aircraft carriers.
    30+ years of "nezavisimost" with the last decade of bandera loving ended up with loosing a 2/3rd of the population, all the energy generation, almost all of the industry, and sick in both physical, psyhical and social parameters.
    And I will just remind you, that they are not the only beneficiary of the western values, as all the Pribaltics are about half the size they used to be when the bad Soviets opressed them so much.
    Good job, masters of the puppets!


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    Post  Mir Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:51 am

    ucmvulcan wrote: Again, Russia's losses are a tragedy.  Ukraine's are a demographic and economic catastrophe.

    Primary objective accomplished by the US and it's vassals, although they expected more losses from the Russian side. Still a resounding victory despite the unfortunate setback.

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:59 am

    Mir wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote: Again, Russia's losses are a tragedy.  Ukraine's are a demographic and economic catastrophe.

    Primary objective accomplished by the US and it's vassals, although they expected more losses from the Russian side. Still a resounding victory despite the unfortunate setback.

    To do what? Have an Afghanistan on Europe's borders? Doesn't seem to. . . . Oh wait, large pool of cheap de facto slave labor, that allows fat Germans to go the beach, and young women and girls and boys for the elites to exploit as sex slaves. Also, a great conduit and market for opium, cocaine, and other horrible drugs, and excuse for upward redistribution of of wealth and silence voices of dissent.

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:11 am

    Mir wrote:
    Primary objective accomplished by the US and it's vassals, although they expected more losses from the Russian side. Still a resounding victory despite the unfortunate setback.

    This master plan was just as stupid as the whole endeavor.
    Believing in own propaganda, they have probably missed the point that a coup won't be accepted by a waste part of Ukrainian society. And they have voted with their own feets. End story is, that the Russian Federation gained millions of new citizens, and will gain even more in the near future. The people who seek refuge in the west, if pushed back, will settle in Belarus or Russia.

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    Post  Arrow Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:15 am

    Primary objective accomplished by the US and it's vassals, although they expected more losses from the Russian side. Still a resounding victory despite the unfortunate setback. wrote:

    Russia emerges from this conflict even stronger. It has increased its army, military production, and has already become the world's 4th largest economy with an economic boom at the level of China...

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    Post  ALAMO Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:31 am

    Yup, but on the other hand at a cost of about 8% of GDP set for the task.
    They can't do that in the longer term, so I expect the expenses to be halved pretty soon.
    Which used to be a norm.

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    Post  Mir Mon Oct 14, 2024 7:35 am

    The general plan was something similar that the elites had planned for Russia back in the 90's. Plundering the country's resources with the help of the remaining local slaves deliberately plunged into poverty.

    An age old and well proven colonial trick.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:35 am

    With talk of another mass mobilization across Ukraine and zelensky looking at attacking Transnistria to not only capture warehouses full of soviet arms but also to restore Moldovan territory which in turn would allow Moldova to join NATO, and let's not forget to divert attention away from it's failed Kursk offensive, now they are targeting an area which can't be resupplied or supported by Russia. I can only see one solution for Russia obviously liberating of Odessa but that isn't going to happen anytime soon, which leaves Russia only one option give Ukraine ultimatum if you attack Transnistria we will flatten Kiev. What I find crazy is this is a contradiction for zelensky when he harped on about Russia attacking a peaceful country yet he's doing the same some might argue Transnistria isn't a recognised country but yet it's de facto been so since early 1990's Ukraine has no grievance with Transnistria so therefore this isn't a legitimate target for them but the international community will as always turn a blind eye because it's what the western master wants. It's one rule for one and another rule for another scenario. It's why western foreign policy is a lot of crap. As for Transnistria they won't be able to hold out for very long despite having loads of soviet small arms, anti tank weapons, mortars etc it's not enough and not enough manpower to stop a mass Ukrainian invasion using armour, drones, aircraft, artillery, NATO intelligence and satellites, and battle experienced troops as it's very likely that Ukraine will send it's most experienced troops while filling other frontlines with the freshly forced mobilization forces to act as a meat shield.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:27 am

    American small-sized high-precision aerial bombs GBU-39B SDB suspended from a Ukrainian Su-27 fighter.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:42 am

    Mother Russia is on the way…

    ⚡ Panic is slowly growing on the Ukrainian side, as it is only 30 kilometers along the highway from Kamenskoye to the city of Zaporozhye, the administrative center of the region and one of the main industrial areas.

    The Ukrainian armed forces are retreating.

    It is also reported that Russian forces have advanced along the road south of the town of Orekhov.

    http://T.me/ukraine_watch

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    Post  franco Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:58 am

    Russian MoD reporting 2065 Ukrainian casualties over the past 24 hours including in Kursk;

    During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces amounted to more than 300 people, eight armored combat vehicles were destroyed, as well as three artillery pieces, two mortars and 11 vehicles. One soldier surrendered.

    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12532968@egNews

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:02 am

    Video speeded up in places! What struck me was the shear number of shell holes where there target was obviously missed. Crazy. Roll on smart munitions and drones.

    The first video is old, the second is the one I intended to link here.

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    Post  Arrow Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:09 am

    Panic is slowly growing on the Ukrainian side, as it is only 30 kilometers along the highway from Kamenskoye to the city of Zaporozhye, the administrative center of the region and one of the main industrial areas. wrote:

    20 km in the realities of the war in Ukraine is almost light years. The terrain is exposed, mined, etc. It is doubtful that Russia is heading towards the city of Zaporozhye.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:41 am

    It sounds like any Ukies as prisoners or surenderers are very lucky.

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    What is known about the situation in Kursk region:

    ▪ Over the course of 24 hours, the enemy's losses amounted to more than 300 people. In total, during the military operations in the Kursk direction, Kiev lost more than 22,950 servicemen;

    ▪ Over the course of a day, Russian military personnel repelled five enemy counterattacks in the direction of the settlements of Lyubimovka, Olgovka and Tolsty Lug;

    ▪ Russian military struck concentrations of manpower and equipment of 12 Ukrainian brigades in the Kursk region;

    ▪ Operational-tactical aviation and missile forces launched strikes on Ukrainian reserves in the Sumy region;

    ▪ One Ukrainian serviceman surrendered within 24 hours.

    Source: TASS

    Map for illustration purposes only, showing situation on October 13th, 2024. source https://mskvremya.ru/article/2023/1473-kontr-nastup-interaktivnaya-karta-boevyh-deistviy-na-ukraine

    Blue dots - liberated settlements, yellow - fights ongoing. (Martynovka, Sverdlikovo, Plekhovo and Sudza)

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    Regarding the Kursk region pre-border areas.

    The more I look at what is happening, there more similarities I see between the Ukraine and Israel. But what is actually funny, some pro-Palestine people support Ukraine. I even understan why - they think that "Big bad Russia has assaulted small good Ukraine". But the thing is that since 2014 "Small, good Ukraine" was killing civilians in Donbass. And I fail to understand, why people who believe in genocide of Palestinians fail to understand that genocide of people of Donbass also took place. Or there is "right" and "wrong" genocide?

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    Post  Sujoy Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:50 am

    I was thinking something in lines of the Russian "Vandal" drone with Fiber-Optic guidance. It has 3 types of cable containers. So Russia can develop a few drones that carry 3 different  types of EW equipment. Some of which can be used against cruise, ballistic missiles.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:00 pm

    He puts topics like this really clearly and to the point.

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    No cash to clear up after Hurricane Milton in Florida, no cash for French farmers, no cash to revive German industry. However, they’ve found enough cash to support a crazy drunken mob of Ukrainian thugs in Europe and churn out weapons to exterminate Slavs in the military conflict

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:00 pm

    Sujoy wrote:I was thinking something in lines of the Russian "Vandal" drone with Fiber-Optic guidance. It has 3 types of cable containers. So Russia can develop a few drones that carry 3 different  types of EW equipment. Some of which can be used against cruise, ballistic missiles.
    Why in this thread???

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    Post  kvs Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:15 pm

    Mir wrote:
    ucmvulcan wrote: Again, Russia's losses are a tragedy.  Ukraine's are a demographic and economic catastrophe.

    Primary objective accomplished by the US and it's vassals, although they expected more losses from the Russian side. Still a resounding victory despite the unfortunate setback.

    Indeed, there is a clear agenda to depopulate Ukria. Some tribe wants to settle it and it ain't Russians.

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    Post  lyle6 Mon Oct 14, 2024 2:58 pm

    The yahudis wish for the pale of settlement back that much?

    >one finger of chabad monke's finger curls

    ... Too bad. They're going to get a renewed Russian hegemon alongside that wish. Razz

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    Post  PhSt Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:05 pm

    If NATO is indeed working on bioweapons that specifically target people of Russian ethnicity, then Russia needs to do the same but with an extended range where the weapon affects all ethnicities of NATO member countries.  attack

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    Post  PhSt Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:23 pm

    A few days ago there was a Ukraine/NATO UAV attack on the Khanskaya airbase,

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    NATO Propaganda outfit Radio "Free" Europe was quick to post before and after satellite photos of the site to show the extent of damage caused by the attack



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    So here's my question, each time there is an UA/NATO drone attack, the damage seems quite extensive, like three structures have been destroyed, its not like NATO is sending 747 sized drones to strike targets, or just how many KGs of payload do they mount these UAVs which makes them destructive? Can Geran-2s achieve the same extent of destruction/damage?

    I think its a good idea for Russia to start posting Before and After satellite photos of destroyed targets in Ukraine, so people will have an idea of how much destruction Russian UAVs are capable of compared to NATO.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Oct 14, 2024 3:54 pm

    kvs wrote:
    Indeed, there is a clear agenda to depopulate Ukria.   Some tribe wants to settle it and it ain't Russians.


    stop with anti semitism:lol1: lol1 lol1

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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Mon Oct 14, 2024 5:43 pm

    ALAMO wrote:They have crossed the Rubicon, which is crystal clear.
    Mykola Azarov called that in one of the interviews, he gave a month or so ago.
    According to him, there are 18 mln people left there.
    I will add again that the structure of the people who left is defective. It is old and women heavy society, with a very low fertility rate and a lack of men that will hit it even further.
    They will cease to exist as a nation in two generations at most.
    A marriage with the west depopulated once a close to 53 mln country, that operated multiple nuclear power plants and energy generation/transfer infrastructure twice of their needs. That had a young, well educated and healthy population and an industry capable of building space crafts and aircraft carriers.
    30+ years of "nezavisimost" with the last decade of bandera loving ended up with loosing a 2/3rd of the population, all the energy generation, almost all of the industry, and sick in both physical, psyhical and social parameters.
    And I will just remind you, that they are not the only beneficiary of the western values, as all the Pribaltics are about half the size they used to be when the bad Soviets opressed them so much.
    Good job, masters of the puppets!



    And your source on the "18 million people left in Ukraine" is some Ukrainian nationalist named Mykola.

    I would be much more careful with such an assessment.


    Many of the fake refugees returned to Ukraine, after devastating their dwellings abroad.

    This is not only the case in the Netherlands, but there have been similar incidents with them in other countries, like Poland and Switzerland.







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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:00 pm

    Mir wrote:The general plan was something similar that the elites had planned for Russia back in the 90's. Plundering the country's resources with the help of the remaining local slaves deliberately plunged into poverty.

    An age old and well proven colonial trick.



    Ukraine is showered with money and armaments from the West and from its tributary state of Poland.

    Ukrainian government has currently more money than it had before the start of the Russian Special Military Operation.


    It is countries like Poland and Serbia that are being plundered and impoverished.







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