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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:09 pm

    PhSt wrote:A few days ago there was a Ukraine/NATO UAV attack on the Khanskaya airbase,

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    NATO Propaganda outfit Radio "Free" Europe was quick to post before and after satellite photos of the site to show the extent of damage caused by the attack



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    So here's my question, each time there is an UA/NATO drone attack, the damage seems quite extensive, like three structures have been destroyed, its not like NATO is sending 747 sized drones to strike targets, or just how many KGs of payload do they mount these UAVs which makes them destructive? Can Geran-2s achieve the same extent of destruction/damage?

    I think its a good idea for Russia to start posting Before and After satellite photos of destroyed targets in Ukraine, so people will have an idea of how much destruction Russian UAVs are capable of compared to NATO.

    Why should Russia waste its time? Radio ROFLMAO is a known propaganda entity. Do we even know that this is what it says it is? Also, would anyone in the west even be allowed by their "democratic" governments to see it? So NAFO made something go boom and took a picture of it. Remember, they are winning the propaganda war but what does the destruction of a few sheds that could have anything from fertilizer or gasoline to bombs, rockets and aviation fuel do to change the situation at the front?

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    Post  ucmvulcan Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:15 pm

    Odin of Ossetia wrote:

    Ukraine is showered with money and armaments from the West and from its tributary state of Poland.

    [some] Ukrainian government [officials and their families have] currently [a lot more] money than [they] had before the start of the Russian Special Military Operation.


    It is [the common people] in countries like [The United States, Germany, France, England], Poland and Serbia that are being plundered and impoverished. [See the halfassed response to Helene and Milton that have left countless Americans in utter ruin].







    Fixed it for you.

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    Post  Mir Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:30 pm

    Ethnic Odin wrote:*[some] Ukrainian government [officials and their families have] currently [a lot more] money than [they] had before the start of the Russian Special Military Operation.

    *kindly edited by ucmvulcan (good job bro)

    Colonialism 101 in colour pictures for a better viewing experience:

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    Post  nomadski Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:54 pm


    @ Phst

    These photo of free Europe , do not make sense . Look doctored to me . As said , drone not strong enough , and if flammable / explosive material set off , then should be debris and building to the left should be gone ! Cartoon do not win war . Also what ex - CIA American say , even if mostly true , may contain crucial falsehood . The aim is usually to enable hasty action by us that advantage them : You also make bio- weapon ....you are superman ....attack attack ....you are winning always ...never cease fire God knows what goes on in the mind of these ...?.....$$$$$$

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    Post  Serberus Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:04 am

    Hey all,

    About a year ago i posted for the last time and said I would be back in 12 months as the conflict had turned into a stalemate and not much would change so no point in beating a dead horse, well as suspected I was correct.

    Since then Ugledar, Avdeevka and a bunch of small villages were liberated sure, however pre war Russia was allowed to get invaded and losing considerable ground in Kursk cancels out the gains in Donbass so pretty much still a stalemate.
    The clown in Kremlin acting like invasion of Russia is no big deal, NATO still flexing and directly involved in planning ops and murdering thousands of Russians, as before, while Putin cucks out at every turn. Sorry he made some changes to a piece of paper that no one will look at again, ooooohhhh scary I am sure that will stop the Anglo Nazis.


    Anyway, see you in another 12 months when things will again most likely remain unchanged.

    russia

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:50 am

    Serberus wrote:Hey all,

    About a year ago i posted for the last time and said I would be back in 12 months as the conflict had turned into a stalemate and not much would change so no point in beating a dead horse, well as suspected I was correct.

    Anyway, see you in another 12 months when things will again most likely remain unchanged.

    russia
    Bye.

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    Post  Hole Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:20 am

    will again most likely remain unchanged.
    scratch

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:23 am

    Hole wrote:
    scratch

    You have just witnessed a terrestrial visitor from an alternate universe Laughing

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:32 am

    The Kremlin has issued a formal accusation saying Ukraine's military has captured and is holding over 1,000 Kursk residents against their will, since launching the cross-border offensive in early August.

    Russia's presidential human rights commissioner Tatyana Moskalkova said Monday, "I’ve received messages regarding more than 1,000 such people from relatives trying to find them."
    Via AFP: Displaced people receive humanitarian aid at a Russian Red Cross distribution point in Kursk.

    "We know nothing about their fate. This is a gross violation of their rights and international norms of treatment of civilians,” Moskalkova added. She said she plans to raise the issue directly with the Ukrainian government.

    "I think it would be useful to remind you that the forced removal of civilians from their places of permanent residence is a gross violation of the Geneva Convention," Moskalkova continued (according to machine translation). "And the world community should probably give this a proper assessment."

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-says-ukraine-kidnapped-over-1000-kursk-residents-seeks-whereabouts

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:50 am

    Voting with their feet.

     Parents are protecting their children: Around 300,000 Ukrainian schoolchildren were taken out of the country before the school year began

    ▪ Most of these are students in their final years, according to Ukrainian MP Nina Yuzhanina.

    ▪ Ukraine’s Minister of Education had previously reported a significant increase in the number of 10th and 11th-grade students leaving the country—these students are approaching the age for military conscription registration.
    Source: RVvoenkor

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 15, 2024 12:51 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The Kremlin has issued a formal accusation saying Ukraine's military has captured and is holding over 1,000 Kursk residents against their will, since launching the cross-border offensive in early August.

    What is the most bizarre part is a fact, that ukrs has not only never denied the fact, but we can have multiple cases when they were calling that "rebuilding exchange fund" and documented that by themselves.
    Of course, nobody in the west will call it by name Laughing

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    Post  GarryB Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:17 pm

    Primary objective accomplished by the US and it's vassals, although they expected more losses from the Russian side. Still a resounding victory despite the unfortunate setback.

    They don't really benefit from dead Russian soldiers, what they were really hoping for was to destroy Russian society and its economy and in the process remove Putin from power... which was a total failure.

    In fact it has all made Russia so much more powerful, and indeed forced them to move closer to China which has made China more powerful and independent too and now the BRICS countries are becoming a threat as well... and all while the EU has been massively weakened by making them give up cheap energy and raw materials they were getting from Russia, and to throw their meager military potential behind Kiev to try to break the Russian military and now that it is all gone they barely scratched the outer layer.

    They got what they wanted, but now they have it... they don't seem to be liking it as much as they thought they would.

    Remember at the start of the conflict when they were confident, they said no to any talks and it will all be decided on the battlefield.

    It should have been easy, if you listen to Kiev they have been fighting Russians since 2014... but their definition of a Russian is anyone who speaks Russians including Ukrainians.

    With talk of another mass mobilization across Ukraine and zelensky looking at attacking Transnistria to not only capture warehouses full of soviet arms but also to restore Moldovan territory which in turn would allow Moldova to join NATO,

    The locals can simply burn those warehouses to the ground after removing any arms they might want to use to defend themselves with first.

    If Kiev did this of course all power and water and food resources in Ukraine can be targeted to make their lives miserable this coming winter, and of course there is always that American embassy that can be destroyed... Zelensky wouldn't attack Moldovan territory without US permission.


    About a year ago i posted for the last time and said I would be back in 12 months as the conflict had turned into a stalemate and not much would change so no point in beating a dead horse, well as suspected I was correct.

    Stalemate... many western donors have said they will supply no more military material... including Poland and Germany and Finland. The nazis invaded a piece of Russia and are trapped and are being slowly ground down to dust. Across the rest of the front line they are being walked steadily backwards out of the fortified places they built over the last decade and out into open ground they wont be able to defend at all.

    Yeah... that is a stalemate all right... NOT.

    But why wait another 12 months... after the election results in the US are known might be a good time to pop back maybe... or not.

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    Post  lyle6 Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:29 pm

    Western Europe is done as an economic power. I'd say they are demilitarizing themselves just fine. Razz

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 15, 2024 3:46 pm

    lyle6 wrote:Western Europe is done as an economic power. I'd say they are demilitarizing themselves just fine. Razz

    Not yet.
    And what shocks me most is the fact, that there is a rather simple solution to this.
    First, end the war.
    Second, reestablish business as usual with Russkie.
    Third, rearm while spending the money on the EU based MIC, not US one.
    But nobody will allow that to happen because the goal of this drill was the opposite Twisted Evil

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    Post  Arrow Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:23 pm

    But nobody will allow that to happen because the goal of this drill was the opposite Twisted Evil wrote:

    The only chance is if the US collapses. But that doesn't look like it and the European Union will collapse faster than the US. By then the US will have managed to destroy the European MIC and industry in general. Europe will already be buying hundreds of F 35s. Unless something unforeseen happens and the US collapses faster.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Oct 15, 2024 4:43 pm

    kvs wrote:....

    Indeed, there is a clear agenda to depopulate Ukria.   Some tribe wants to settle it and it ain't Russians.



    As long as it's depopulated it's a win


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    Post  ALAMO Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:00 pm

    IT wont be for long on this scenario 🤣
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:05 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    As long as it's depopulated it's a win



    populated by $ionists isn't exactly better.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:09 pm

    Cooperation alliance with Nord Korea ... including "ART 5 " analog. I wonder if this would impact Ukro war?



    Peskov spoke about the provisions of the agreement on strategic partnership between Russia and the DPRK

    MOSCOW, October 15. /TASS/. The strategic partnership agreement between Russia and the DPRK includes provisions on mutual defense in the event of an attack from outside and envisages deepened cooperation in the security sphere. This was confirmed at a briefing by the Russian president's press secretary Dmitry Peskov, answering a question from TASS.

    "In the agreement, in fact, the wording - you listed them yourself, they do not need further clarification. They are quite unambiguous," the Kremlin representative pointed out.

    “Moreover, the main thing, perhaps, is that this agreement implies strategic, in-depth cooperation in all areas, including ensuring security,” Peskov added.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Oct 15, 2024 5:17 pm

    Belisarius wrote:

    again ?! affraid affraid affraid
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    Post  ucmvulcan Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:02 pm

    Belisarius wrote:Russian special military operation in Ukraine #61 - Page 31 Img_2493

    the hopium is strong in this one and that is from a year ago makes the hopium tears even more delicious

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    Post  franco Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:22 pm

    ucmvulcan wrote:
    the hopium is strong in this one and that is from a year ago makes the hopium tears even more delicious

    The stupidity of the WOKE crowd never ceases to amaze Shocked Arrow

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    Post  franco Tue Oct 15, 2024 6:32 pm

    Up to 20% of ammunition used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) turns out to be defective. This was reported by Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov , the press service of the country's Defense Ministry writes.

    “According to rough estimates, up to 20% of ammunition in combat zones fails to detonate,” he said.

    According to Umerov, the government has developed a mechanism that will allow the disposal of shells in the combat zone for the benefit of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

    He explained that it is planned to process defective ammunition at demining sites using special mobile complexes, and to use the resulting processed products for the needs of the army.

    In February, military expert Vasily Dandykin said that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were receiving a lot of defective weapons. According to him, Kiev's partners often send Ukraine old weapons with an expiring margin of safety, and most of the supplied weapons are not checked. Dandykin also pointed out the lack of domestic production in Ukraine. He noted that Kiev produces practically nothing - no shells, no equipment, no weapons.

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