Russian special military operation in Ukraine #6

I don't like it

But then I don't like the whole war

God damn Putin, for re-opening this whole wound. I expect him to outsmart everyone, without firing a shot. Naive of me.

'Our country right or wrong, but our country!' Stephen Decatur, ca 1816. We are in a different country but the saying holds true here, too.

The strike against Yaroviv is big in Western news.
You know what it means. Plenty of mercenaries wiped off.

Failing New York Times says there might be hundreds wounded. I don't want to link to fake news sites but if they say that, you can be assured it's the minimum, probably more.  

Great job

flamming_python wrote:I don't like it

But then I don't like the whole war

God damn Putin, for re-opening this whole wound. I expect him to outsmart everyone, without firing a shot. Naive of me.

And what if you consider the alternative perspective?
Russia does not intervene.
Ukros do.
Breaking the defense positions of the republics, and stage let's say a "chemical attack" using any random stock of chemicals that you have there.
NATO forces intervene as "peacekeepers", sending a few thousand troops from Poland, Romania, Pribalts etc.
They put a NATO foot on the ground de facto and de iure, signing a memorandum with Ukr government about "peacekeeping contingent".
That would twist the whole situation : it would be Russia who would ignite a conflict with NATO, not the opposite.
How do you like this scenario, bud?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=midXQqNwEwU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HieT0pHD39E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiEVmpwcD3k Women's Day at control point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GSZ_yxQmtM

ALAMO wrote:

flamming_python wrote:I don't like it

But then I don't like the whole war

God damn Putin, for re-opening this whole wound. I expect him to outsmart everyone, without firing a shot. Naive of me.

And what if you consider the alternative perspective?
Russia does not intervene.
Ukros do.
Breaking the defense positions of the republics, and stage let's say a "chemical attack" using any random stock of chemicals that you have there.
NATO forces intervene as "peacekeepers", sending a few thousand troops from Poland, Romania, Pribalts etc.
They put a NATO foot on the ground de facto and de iure, signing a memorandum with Ukr government about "peacekeeping contingent".
That would twist the whole situation : it would be Russia who would ignite a conflict with NATO, not  the opposite.
How do you like this scenario, bud?

I get it

I just think there was a way to avoid the road to war in the first place

Keep that damn gas flowing if Russia had to. At least, it might have bought some more years.

I don't think these guys from Canada are mercs, they are Ukrainians going back. There are FOG mercs in Ukraine with Mk18 assault rifles and Batholemey symbol. Openly posting their location on social media and etc.

Regular wrote:I don't think these guys from Canada are mercs, they are Ukrainians going back. There are FOG mercs in Ukraine with Mk18 assault rifles and Batholemey symbol. Openly posting their location on social media and etc.

Real bunch of idiots. They really do think it's some vacation or safari hunt, like from Hollywood movies about fighting Russians.

Russia has worked up a whole load of experience in counter-insurgency operations throughout the whole Northern Caucasus, and will be flooding the whole zone it controls with specialists. It also has access to every sort of technology and precision weapon imaginable. While these guys don't, not in the Ukraine.

Can it be true

Kadyrov arrived in the area of the special operation of the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine.

https://t.me/voenkorKotenok/32641

flamming_python wrote:
I get it

I just think there was a way to avoid the road to war in the first place

Keep that damn gas flowing if Russia had to. At least, it might have bought some more years.

I hear you.
But if you ask me, there was something that ignited the situation.
Putin is one of the sanest politicians in the whole history.
He was cool as an iceberg for the last 20+ years.
It must have been something that broke the string there, no other way.
We won't know that for sure for years.
It might be some indications about this f'ckin "chemical weapon" that Anglosaxons are playing for the last 20 years.
The more I watch this, the more I get the feeling that Ukraine was going to be a rough state, that could do anything desired by the masters.
All the things NATO could not do - they would.
They could ignite the ethnic conflicts along with Russia, provide cannon fodder for emerging conflicts, keep the goons&assasiantin squads to perform pure terroristic attacks & operations, including political assassinations while needed.

Urluber wrote:Can it be true  

Kadyrov arrived in the area of the special operation of the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine.

https://t.me/voenkorKotenok/32641

Too dangerous for it to be true, but you never know with him. It would be stupid for him to die

flamming_python wrote:

Real bunch of idiots. They really do think it's some vacation or safari hunt, like from Hollywood movies about fighting Russians.

Russia has worked up a whole load of experience in counter-insurgency operations throughout the whole Northern Caucasus, and will be flooding the whole zone it controls with specialists. It also has access to every sort of technology and precision weapon imaginable. While these guys don't, not in the Ukraine.

Yes, but I highly doubt that non-Ukrainians will be involved in insurgency if it will happen in the first place. They want to play special forces, not to be hunted like Taliban.

flamming_python wrote:God damn Putin, for re-opening this whole wound. I expect him to outsmart everyone, without firing a shot. Naive of me.

Riiiight...  he should just have sat quietly with his thumb up his arse and waited until the Ukroratz launched their long-planned offensive to eliminate the DPR/LPR and pursue a military solution (with Western support) rather than the clearly laid out diplomatic path of Minsk accords.

How fcking naive can you be? Are you really that stupid? Orcs are not interested in talking, and the US seeks nothing less than Russias isolation, humiliation, stagnation, resignation and ultimately capitulation to US hegemony.  That sick evil bitch Madeline Albright openly stated that they wanted Russia to break up into three separate nations (European Russia, Central Siberia, Far East) so that they could "better integrate into the global economy".

What more do you need to understand?  You display the same naivety as Gorbachev did when he dismantled Soviet power without formal guarantees, and that absurd exercise of trusting the West just because they smiled and acted friendly simply led Russia down the garden path and into a disaster that nearly ended them as an independent sovereign nation...

Putin & Russia have tried absolutely fcking everything they could to try to avoid this Ukropiss-stain shitstorm.  Putin talked in all major international venues until he was blue in the face in an effort to get through to these people, but to no avail.  The US and its Euro-faggot sycophants simply wouldn't listen.

Look at all the endless political attacks against Russia and her interests - do you really believe that a hegemonistic block that forces this kind of shit can somehow be reasoned with????

US covert support of Wahabbis in Chechnya
Bombing of Serbia 1999, theft of Kosovo and handing it over to an organised-crime cartel
Polonium poisoning of ex-spy Litvinenko (false flag)
Endless faked allegations of "Putins billions" or "Putins palace"
Endless faked allegations of Putin "killing his opponents" or "silencing journalists"
Sanctions over the faked Magnitsky affair (to restore the sanctions that were removed after repeal of Jackson-Vanik law)
US support for Georgian attack on South Ossetia
US/NATO destruction of Libya (after Russia co-operating in the UNSC to permit no-fly zone to "save civilians").
Smearing of Sochi Winter Olympics (corruption, poor facilities..)
Fake allegation of "state sponsored doping" based on lies from a corrupt criminal (G.Rodchenkov)
Pro-nazi putsch in Maidan
MH17 false flag
Syria regime change attempts (incl use of Wahabbi terror gangs and false flag CW attacks)
Skripal "poisoning" false flag
Navalny "poisoning" false flag
US support of Ukr far-right nationalist regime, cover-up of its crimes and political repressions.
Support for Ukr far-right nationalist to gain nuclear weaponry capabilities  (IMHO this was the final straw...)

When the fck do you intend to wake up?

Regular wrote:

Urluber wrote:Can it be true  

Kadyrov arrived in the area of the special operation of the Russian Armed Forces in Ukraine.

https://t.me/voenkorKotenok/32641

Too dangerous for it to be true, but you never know with him. It would be stupid for him to die

According to translations Kadyrov states: Our main task is to take Kiev

Could very well be psyops of course.
But I wonder anyway what are the aspirations of Kadyrov. With taking so active role in the special operation.
He's still young for the positions he holds. A bit over 40 years old. Depending on final outcome of Chechen deployment (so far it has been solid in my opinion) could he have a federal level future?

There goes the engines for India's Grigorivich class frigates.

miketheterrible wrote:
My wife said that can't be right since Indian government would mandate it.  So you mean just youtube then.  Can't take it off the air without government say.

RT is off cable TV, across India.

ALAMO wrote:
I hear you.
But if you ask me, there was something that ignited the situation.
Putin is one of the sanest politicians in the whole history.
He was cool as an iceberg for the last 20+ years.
It must have been something that broke the string there, no other way.
We won't know that for sure for years.
It might be some indications about this f'ckin "chemical weapon" that Anglosaxons are playing for the last 20 years.
The more I watch this, the more I get the feeling that Ukraine was going to be a rough state, that could do anything desired by the masters.
All the things NATO could not do - they would.
They could ignite the ethnic conflicts along with Russia, provide cannon fodder for emerging conflicts, keep the goons&assasiantin squads to perform pure terroristic attacks & operations, including political assassinations while needed.

FP is purposely being a dick out of ideological blinders, but the situation is crystal clear. US had the control of the escalation in Ukraine and all the means and motives to drag Russia into a conflict, that is why they organized the coup and put rabid nazis in power that are ready anytime to kill Russians, no matter the costs. If a small scale conflict in the Donbass would not provoke the Russians, then maybe a bigger one. And if not, NATO bases. And if not, biological + nuclear weapons in the country. And if Russia does not react, better even, Ukraine could attack in a couple of years and kill millions of Russians on behalf of the West. People not wanting to see this don't understand shit, sorry. The conflict IS existential, the West has no use of Russia, period.

We were talking already end of last year about Russia and China being ready with their preparations for an active phase of the confrontation with the West and explained the balance of forces would currently benefit Russia using the card of military confrontation now as they have substantial advantages and are reasonably ready in the economic front too. Accordingly, the ultimatum to the West came and then it became clear that, in absence of any constructive answer, Russia would take the initiative and would not allow festering wounds like Ukraine to persist for long. That was the opportunity for US to shed Ukraine, put it in Russia's balance sheet and at the same time force Europe to confront Russia. They escalated the hysteria, pumped weapons supply and made the plans to attack Donbass obvious enough for Russia to intervene. A good move for them, but Russia had no other option and as a result what was unavoidable (the cleanup of Ukraine) has come and the multipolar world has been de facto born. We all would like that confrontation was not necessary but that was not realistic, considering the kind of people (ukie nazis and western psychos) that don't compromise and need to be simply eliminated. One additional and absolutely critical advantage of the current operation is that an early strike prevents the ukies from getting WMDs and building their military even more, so it allows to solve the problem with much smaller resources and losses.

Russia has been preparing for 20 years for a confrontation like this and the time has come, it is that simple.