Russian special military operation in Ukraine #6

ALAMO wrote:Let me summarize the things from the EU MSM.

Russia lost.
Putin is dying.
Shoigu is his last pale, but there are a tons of Brute sided by.
Half of FSB/GRU main staff is dead/jailed/custodiezed/home arrested. You can vote.
Half of general staff is dead. Generals are dying like sheep in slaughterhouse. Assisted by the colonels. No marshalls. Yet!
Putin is dying, still there is a Hague tribunal ahead of him.
Everybody who dares to speak his position, that is not-so-B&W, is "idiot", "Putins agent", "Olgino troll".
Last spotted "idiot" is Coehlo. The writer, you know.
Russian shoot a friendly&peacefull  NATO owned curort in Yavorovo to make a political message. Some security guards died there, among with brave guard dogs. Maybe some few military. More than few. Well, some of ... No foreign mercs there, never, ever, STFU.
Russian generals stole the most of modernization directed cash. Half a trillion $. But that is for now only, thet will steal a whole trillion by tomorrow latest.
Doneck Tochka?
Non existing.
Evil Russkies shooted at Kiev city, there is a CCTV proving that, bad, bad Putin, you will die in Hague, considering that you are dying at the very moment. Death is imminent, anyway.
Even more evil Russkies are closing the evacuation corridors, shoot at the refugees, and even if there was a Tochka on Donetsk - Ruskies shoot it.
Day as usual, nothing fancy. Carry on.

Azi wrote:US and western deep states are utilizing western media to spread panic among russians. Fake news isn't just for Western audiences it's also for 5. column in Russia...the brain washed  idiots consuming western media shit and lies.

As I wrote ... the whole conflict is not about Ukraine, but about Russia! Regime change in Moscow is the ultimate goal of the United States.

Ispan wrote:very complete briefing today, covers everything from the Donetsk missile massacre to the up to the last minute developments

https://guerraenucrania.wordpress.com/2022/03/14/parte-de-guerra-14-03-2022/

Big_Gazza wrote:BS.  China simply isn't going to back off on its support of Russia.
Ignore that they have a strategic partnership and boil it down to the absolute basics - When its Chinas turn to get stuck in (and take down the secessionists in Taiwan) they want Russia in their corner.
Murkan deep staters are idiots if they can't understand this, but they are desperate to save their pet Ukro regime and the stress is making them sloppy and causing forced errors.

RTN wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:
Yes, please. So Russia can bomb them too

And why doesn't Russia call you back you son of a bitch? Coz they know you are just that a little, lying piece of shit.

Isos wrote:You forgot the coup by Shoigu that ended up by its arrestation last week. It happened, US told so two weeks ago.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:You compare apples to oranges and look like an idiot doing it.

Been had RipVannWinkle7 on ignore for the past 7-8 years for a good reason, and never looked back!

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

RTN wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:
Yes, please. So Russia can bomb them too

And why doesn't Russia call you back you son of a bitch? Coz they know you are just that a little, lying piece of shit.

yes, so you are then next door hero going to safari on Russians? your visit must be calibrated then
Unfair fight? do Americans know any other type?

miketheterrible wrote:

That is the thing - this is just constant bullshit after bullshit of news.  America has claimed: Russias economy is in tatters and is already destroyed.  That turned out to be false.  Russian made weapons are not working (seems their AD is working far better than wests (as proof by the drone incident) and their missiles hit right on target right near the Polish border at the surprise of the west). Claimed the world sanctioned them (when it is only 11% of the world sanctioned them and the rest are still more than willing to import and export to/from russia).  Claimed Russian soldiers are demoralized and losing in Ukraine (Massive lie when Russian forces were smaller than Ukraines and still managed to encircle Ukraines biggest cities and forces and gained 40% of the country with such a small force). Claimed Putin is losing support (when in reality, his support has grown during this conflict from low 60% to now over 70%).

They have not been right about a single thing.  And the reason for it is to create a narrative and try to spread it.  They also believe that the other countries actually take it at face value and use it to try and force China to do stuff.  Its funny because China denied the claims from the US and so did Russia yet they go and demand from China not to do it.  Why? Because the US will use it as an attempt to say "see, look, we forced China's arm.  They didn't sell weapons to the Russians because we told them not to!".

ALAMO wrote:

Isos wrote:You forgot the coup by Shoigu that ended up by its arrestation last week. It happened, US told so two weeks ago.

He couped twice already.
Quite impressive, considering the age.

Vann7 wrote:

Arkanghelsk wrote:Azerbaijan war in NGK is incomparable to Operation Z

Anyone with a brain sees that, some propaganda victories of TB2 and Harop against a militia is not comparable to VSU and its 400,000 plus sized army with thousands of anti aircraft vehicles and sites

VKS already eliminated the bulk of long range AD so I don't know why you mention s300, those did not work since day 1

Azerbaijan could not capture NGK, while Russian offensive controls 40% of Ukrainian territory

You compare apples to oranges and look like an idiot doing it

watch  

how Russian best air defenses (Tor M2KM) destroyed.. in armenian conflict.




you can even see the russian soldiers trying to escape and killed.

is this is the way Putin plans , to make NATO fear russian military?  
so russia is respected?


This is not "Trivial"  , this is very bad , that a major power like russia can be humiliated so easily
by not having proper air defenses for their military .russia can't replace a destroyed TOR or pantsir

And This is a third world country , with just one drone can destroy 4x tor defenses..
if russia was facing NATO , their army will have been desroyed , by a very agressive air support
for nato troops.

is all about of saturating them..   Tor have 4 missiles.. then if you throw 4 + 1 , the last one will
pass and destroy it..  this drones flight higher than the range of anti air artillery. so only can be shot
with missiles.  

   
if Russia was invading a Poland country ,  the russian army will have been destroyed easily by them ,
if nato fully supply poland with enough drones , to destroy those columns of armor.
Russia tactics are outdated.. and the armenian conflict and now ukrainian one confirm it.
just because a third world nation ukraine with a small demoralized army   is losing to russia ,does not means the Russian army performance is good.. because it is not. Russia is not yet tested against real well armed enemies with strong air support of their combat troops and strong tactics.

the only thing , that russia have ,as deterrence is their nuclear weapons , because
russian air defenses are not good enough .  the best defense is offense and neither here russia
impress me, 2 weeks with a big front line of ukies ,and russia can't defeat them even when it have
air superiority.. actually russia is losing  too many aircraft to man pads.. this is not good , nothing to brag about..   All those artillery duels exercises that russia army does all the time ,are not based on reality ,that you can't deploy artillery in an airspace that is heavily guarded by air support of the enemy.