Russian special military operation in Ukraine #59

I al neither pro Ukraine or pro Russia here, and my comments have always showed that so to call me Nazi merely because I serve the US and have criticized how the Russians are handling this war is again tier S fucking dumb ass logic

First how are you defining pro US

They will not run out of cannot fodder anytime soon. 10 million men, even at 10:1 it will cost 1m Russsian lives to kill them all and at 2000 men a day 13 years.

Can anyone predict how things may evolve in 13 years? Add maybe 5 million NATO volunteers and then you have a 20 year war. That seems to be the plan we are on. After all Afghanistan went on for 20 years.

NATO knows perfectly well that Putin will do nothing. That is why it continues to escalate. They think Putin is a coward.

That is a good point but like the Ukrainians who flew Soviet stuff, they could volunteer to be trained as F-16 pilots. Money is an excellent incentive.

Putin will not use any R-33 with a nuclear warhead nor will he attack a NATO base with an Iskander. This is nonsense.

If those tochkas are Armenian, I think it would be in russias best interest to physically remove Pashinyan

Kiko wrote:Since Russia has already lost, Kyiv is ready to make peace immediately, by Kirill Strelnikov for RiaNovosti. 08.04.2024.

Probably, nothing can surprise us anymore in the total schizophrenia of the West, but strong antidepressants are doing their job, and new chimeras are emerging in the Western information field, passed off as official policy.

A great example is a recent report published in the online publication Geopolitical Monitor, which is a perfect illustration of the Russian proverb "without me, they married me."

It is impossible to read it without a big green lamp and popcorn, and, in fact, it is not necessary - it is enough to just get acquainted with its main passages:

• The outlook for the Russian economy is bleak; internal repression and emigration have "strained the economic and social fabric."

• Russia's armed forces have shown the world their weakness, and Russia "can no longer be considered a superpower and the main threat to the United States and its allies."

Well, you get the idea: torn shreds, chips from washing machines, rusty guns, hungry soldiers, isolation and all that stuff – all the classic stuff.

But then come the conclusions for which it is simply necessary to come up with a special Nobel Prize nomination:

• Once the original goal of weakening Russia on the part of the US has been achieved (!), it is time to "change the strategy on Ukraine" because (attention!) "continuing the conflict no longer serves the interests of the West" and could "bring negative consequences for the US and its allies" and "the losses will be greater than the benefits."

• The US goal has been achieved, so it is necessary to begin negotiations with Russia, which "will require significant concessions from Ukraine."

In other words, the US has quietly defeated Russia and now it is urgently necessary to negotiate with it so that the defeated Russia does not defeat the victorious West. Fanfares, applause, curtain.

However, to be fair, it should be noted that the Western propaganda about the need to conclude peace, which has become much more frequent recently, is much less optimistic. On the contrary, the growing gloom and inevitability of the end being delayed with all possible efforts are obvious to everyone, but the West's disappointment in Ukraine is felt most strongly : its pimps have invested so much effort in creating the image of an "unbending nation" that the information about the true mood of the residents of Nezalezhnaya causes a real shock.

A prime example is an uncharacteristically minor article published recently by the Conversation, the main conclusion of which is that the successes of the Russian Armed Forces on the battlefield have changed the Ukrainian position on the negotiations.

The authors of the article cite the results of a public opinion poll conducted by the International Kyiv Institute of Sociology, according to which almost 60 percent of Ukrainians believe that the country's authorities should begin negotiations with Moscow to resolve the conflict, and the number of those who are ready to make territorial concessions right now has more than tripled in just one year - from ten percent in May 2023 to 32 percent at the moment.

At the same time (coincidence?), The New York Times published an article titled "As War Grows Grim, More Ukrainians Want a Peace Deal." The authors claim that there has been a "tangible shift" in Ukrainian society (and its leadership), and it is felt most strongly in the regions most affected by the conflict. An interesting example: according to the authors of the article, a year ago in the Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhia, Mykolaiv, Kherson and Odessa regions, 86 percent of respondents were categorically against territorial concessions. Now there are 46 percent.

The picture is complemented by other polls (for example, recently conducted by the Ukrainian Foundation for Democratic Initiatives), according to which only 37 percent of Ukrainians surveyed are confident in continued support from the US authorities.

It is clear that believing Western and Ukrainian polls is the same as believing that thimbleriggers sincerely want to improve your financial situation. However, the general trend is no longer disputed by anyone, including Ukrainian influencers who used to cross themselves with a trident, but now suddenly began to call for peace: "Nothing is more important than people's lives", "Nobody needs the borders of 1991", "A bad peace is better than war" and all that.

Also interesting are the results of the analysis of the Ukrainian segment of Telegram based on the statistics of the query "свiт з россійю" ("peace with Russia"). In the last three months, the frequency of this query has been growing exponentially - from 675,287 views in May to 2,261,806 views in July.

According to information from sources "on the ground", "the office of the President of Ukraine is carefully monitoring changes in public sentiment", and "the readiness of Ukrainians for negotiations with Russia is higher than it might seem from the published results of polls".

Apparently, the gap between the real mood and what can be allowed to be published is so great that the pseudo-president Zelensky, who previously declared on all European stumps and hummocks that any negotiations with Russia were impossible and criminal, recently seriously disgraced himself: in one of his daily "national appearances" he, without batting an eyelid, declared that the country's "main need" is to end the hostilities "as quickly and fairly as possible." Where did the often promised quick victory with the unanimous support of the united West go and how to conduct negotiations with Russia when he personally issued a decree banning them, he kept silent.

Based on the fact that the Kiev leadership is just a screen for Western interests, we need to understand that the paper with this statement was simply placed on Zelensky’s desk and in the same way he (or anyone else, if he resists) will be forced to sign any agreements - and here we need to look and think about what all these signatures are worth.

For now, one thing can be stated: the West has realized that it is losing on a front it did not think existed - a spiritual front, where the main weapons are morality and faith in a just cause. The puppeteers of the Kyiv regime firmly believed that they would be able to maintain an endless flow of Ukrainian "meat" to the front, but they were wrong - the vaunted spirit of "free non-brothers" is turning into a wrinkled pumpkin before our eyes.

While on the other side people are forced to die for false values, false heroes and alien goals - our army goes forward for truth, life and the future, and no Western weapons and no money can defeat this.

https://ria.ru/20240804/kiev-1963919959.html

Sorry USA gymnastics team, although your performance was pretty good, you can only be given the silver. The mental gymnastics required to believe the western narratives merit gold

So the F-16s began operations from NATO bases.