Unacceptable if true.. wrote:
Unfortunately, if this is true, the Russians suffered heavy losses. It seems authentic. Besides, there were many reports of shelling of the Russian column.
Unacceptable if true.. wrote:
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PhSt wrote:The Traitor who filmed this incident is now arrested. Traitor needs to be executed for aiding enemy propaganda
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Then does Ukraine have the right to do the same thing?
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ALAMO wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Then does Ukraine have the right to do the same thing?
It is about time for you to reinvent a wheel I guess
They have been doing that since the very beginning of the conflict.
Only now it seems that people ceased to be afraid, probably there are too many cases for the ukrogestapo to hunt them down.
By the way, Inventflix continues to operate ...
In the morning, a new attempt of D-Day on ukro scale was executed on the sands of Kinburn Spit. Hohols have lost 3 boats and up to 12 personnel and returned to Odessa.
This is some madness
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SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Then does Ukraine have the right to do the same thing?
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More Russians in Kursk.
And probably more Ukrainians, too. The Ukrainians may send Patriot there.
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ALAMO wrote:SeigSoloyvov wrote:
Then does Ukraine have the right to do the same thing?
Edit to my last answer.
It is even better.
The guy was not arrested for filming that and releasing in social media, but for publishing it on the Ukrainian TG channel.
Which can be considered an espionage case.
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That's understandable. But, will some officers get to prison for this shit? War is lasting already 2.5 years. Special kind of imbecile is needed to make this kind of blunders.Scorpius wrote:He was arrested LITERALLY under the article "espionage" - that is, the transfer of important information about the movements and losses of the Russian army in the combat zone to the enemy.
In fact, you need to have negative IQ values in order to transmit such data to Ukrainians. I understand if he had passed the video, for example, to RT or to the federal media.
But Ukrainians???
Seriously, what was he counting on?
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It is important that Russia Massacre both NATO and Ukrainian personnel ASAP as retribution for this cowardly Terrorist Attack.
Again, this is NATO testing how Russia would react to such provocation. The Response needs to be Destructive
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but I don't think the Kremlin is as serious as it should be. The way to stop attacks inside Russia is to drive the Ukes to the Dniepr. Then you can talk peace wrote:
PhSt wrote:
It is important that Russia Massacre both NATO and Ukrainian personnel ASAP as retribution for this cowardly Terrorist Attack.
Again, this is NATO testing how Russia would react to such provocation. The Response needs to be Destructive
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Well there are those clips now available of destroyed column so yes it happened.SeigSoloyvov wrote:mr_hd wrote:More unreal information is coming on the internet, one Russian military column was obliterated in Kursk region with himars. There were many dead soldiers and destroyed equipment.
Also forward forces of Ukraine were reported on some points up to 35km form the border (yesterday was reported incursion 10-15km at most)... of course it is question would they be able to stay there long, but overall picture is that this action was very well prepared and executed from Ukrainian side with complex set up and coordination needed.
so far Ukraine did brilliantly - some experts say it is huge gamble and big risk - but overall NO ONE (neither Russia nor West) have any clue what Ukrainian goal is which is masterclass of first order from intelligence point of view.
I mean I haven't seen any Large Russian columns hit with himars, possible it happened but according to who?
That said Ukraine hasn't pushed all that far in, look at a map basically all they managed to do is occupy some small villages.
The distance isn't impressive, any good Western commander knows one thing.
Pushing into Russia is easy, it's the biggest country in the world it has many invasion routes, far to much to properly guard without an army millions strong.
It's occupy if Russia and going deeper into it that becomes the problem.
So far Ukraine has managed to basically occupy what amounts to nothing, and large scale Russian reinforcements are already in route or there.
As for the Intel part, the reason everyone in the West is scratching their head is because this offensive is stupid as ****, there is no sensibly reason for it.
The US never signed off on it and I know for a fact when Ukraine went in the response from Western command was "wtf are you stupid fuckers doing?"
(Making it colorful language for giggles)
In order for This offensive to be of any value they would need to punch very very deep into Russia which would cost Ukraine hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of men that would be needed for such a thing.
The problem for them is they do not have that much extra troops at the ready and they need reinforcements at others parts of their line.
That's why the West is scratching their head, Ukraine doesn't have the available manpower for this and they are wasting troop's needed else where.
Zelen ordered this offensive without anyone's knowledge, why I do know, maybe he thinks he can push that deep into Russia.
But he would be delusional and utterly desperate to think that.
Btw the forces you are quoting where recon and sabotage groups, the main bulk of the ukies Force isn't that deep yet
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mr_hd wrote:Also forward forces of Ukraine were reported on some points up to 35km form the border (yesterday was reported incursion 10-15km at most)... of course it is question would they be able to stay there long, but overall picture is that this action was very well prepared and executed from Ukrainian side with complex set up and coordination needed.
so far Ukraine did brilliantly - some experts say it is huge gamble and big risk - but overall NO ONE (neither Russia nor West) have any clue what Ukrainian goal is which is masterclass of first order from intelligence point of view.
SeigSoloyvov wrote:I mean I haven't seen any Large Russian columns hit with himars, possible it happened but according to who?
That said Ukraine hasn't pushed all that far in, look at a map basically all they managed to do is occupy some small villages.
The distance isn't impressive, any good Western commander knows one thing.
Pushing into Russia is easy, it's the biggest country in the world it has many invasion routes, far to much to properly guard without an army millions strong.
It's occupy if Russia and going deeper into it that becomes the problem.
So far Ukraine has managed to basically occupy what amounts to nothing, and large scale Russian reinforcements are already in route or there.
As for the Intel part, the reason everyone in the West is scratching their head is because this offensive is stupid as ****, there is no sensibly reason for it.
The US never signed off on it and I know for a fact when Ukraine went in the response from Western command was "wtf are you stupid fuckers doing?"
(Making it colorful language for giggles)
In order for This offensive to be of any value they would need to punch very very deep into Russia which would cost Ukraine hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of men that would be needed for such a thing.
The problem for them is they do not have that much extra troops at the ready and they need reinforcements at others parts of their line.
That's why the West is scratching their head, Ukraine doesn't have the available manpower for this and they are wasting troop's needed else where.
Zelen ordered this offensive without anyone's knowledge, why I do know, maybe he thinks he can push that deep into Russia.
But he would be delusional and utterly desperate to think that.
Btw the forces you are quoting where recon and sabotage groups, the main bulk of the ukies Force isn't that deep yet
PhSt wrote:The Traitor who filmed this incident is now arrested. Traitor needs to be executed for aiding enemy propaganda
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